Colin Craig says Kiwis will flee to Australia to escape gay married couples

September 20th, 2012 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

has proclaimed:

Colin Craig, Leader of the Conservative Party has responded to yesterday’s vote by the Australian Parliament that overwhelmingly quashed their gay marriage bill.

Mr Craig says “Once again Australia has made the smart decision by refusing to make unnecessary and detrimental changes to the definition of marriage. This is another example of Aussies showing us how to do it, and will further support the trend of New Zealanders leaving for Australia.”

He actually put this in a press release? Wow, does he need a better press secretary.

Lyndon Hood tweeted:

People leaving NZ because they can’t stand the idea of homosexuals marrying each other. Colin Craig says a risk; I say a bonus.

I’m with Lyndon on that one. Personally I doubt a single person will swap countries because of how Australia and NZ voted on . Anyway, Australia will I am sure vote the same way within a decade.

The Labor MPs who voted against include Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan. The vote was 42 in favour and 98 against. 38 Labor MPs voted for it, and 33 voted against or did not vote.

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63 Responses to “Colin Craig says Kiwis will flee to Australia to escape gay married couples”

  1. my 2 cents (1,091 comments) says:

    Good on the Aussies at least they have their heads screwed on right with something.

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  2. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    Let the bigots go….poor dears.

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  3. Andrei (2,653 comments) says:

    That was a clumsy way of expressing it but never the less my grandchildren will be Australians while the only offspring Nigel and Jeremy will ever produce will be?

    I don’t know who will be taking care of Nigel and Jeremy when they are bed ridden and incontinent let alone paying for their care but it wont be my children or my children’s children. How sad.

    Perhaps poor Nigel and Jeremy will just have to stew in their own juices

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  4. Kevin (960 comments) says:

    OMFG. We’re now condemned to going to Aussie because we have no party who speaks for us on the real issues – industry to pay for our “infrastructure”, good environment, equality, affordable houses for our kids, …

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  5. PaulL (5,446 comments) says:

    1. I believe the bill is being adjusted and resubmitted. That might be closer, although probably will still get voted down.

    2. There’s always the option of running a referendum on joining the Australian Federation as an additional state. The constitution allows it, and better yet, I believe it only requires a vote by NZers (Australians don’t get a say). We could look forward to a decent cricket team, and income transfers as we’d be one of the poorest states.

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  6. MT_Tinman (3,310 comments) says:

    Craig, Bedwetter and their mates migrating to Oz to get away from marrying pooftas?

    Fantastic stuff.

    Hope they get there in time for the Gay Mardi Gras.

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  7. my 2 cents (1,091 comments) says:

    I’m not that enamored with Colin Craig as a leader, their national/regional party organisation is non existent sadly, so it seems it is the Colin party.

    This article is interesting as one of the shout outs from DPF and his followers is that there is no difference between homosexual couples and normal married couples and their kids.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/academic_outrage_over_politically_incorrect_gay-parenting_study.html

    Gender does matter and at its base is what marriage is about, because 2 genders is what’s best for kids and ultimately society.

    [DPF: I’ve never said gender does not matter. Many things matter. I’ve said there should be no legislative ban.

    And that study is generally of children of parents who were married, and then they split up and one or more parents entered a gay relationship. I have no doubt that is bad for the kids,

    That is very different to parents who stay together, even if of the same sex]

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  8. nasska (12,076 comments) says:

    Well, we can’t say we weren’t warned……by this time next year ‘NZ Conservative’ will be hosted in Sydney & the combined wisdom of Lucia Maria, Fletch & Andrei will be lost to the rest of us.

    Bummer! :)

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  9. annie (539 comments) says:

    It brings to mind Muldoon’s famous remark about such emigration raising the mean IQ of the populations of both NZ and Australia.

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  10. James Stephenson (2,265 comments) says:

    He actually put this in a press release? Wow, does he need a better press secretary

    Yeah, ‘cos the poor sod gets completely ignored when he says sensible stuff, like yesterday’s release about the water issue.

    I think I’m going to vote CCCP just out of sympathy.

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  11. Redbaiter (10,361 comments) says:

    “That was a clumsy way of expressing it ‘

    It wasn’t.

    What Craig said was perfectly fine. It was what it was turned into by his Progressive political opponents that was clumsy.

    Craig was alluding to the suffocating control that the Progressives exert over NZ culture, and of course that is a factor that might sway those less Progressive to seek more suitable climes.

    We shouldn’t be defending on this, we should be attacking the propagandists who as usual turn Craig’s words into something he never said.

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  12. Lucia Maria (2,641 comments) says:

    Nasska,

    Can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m not leaving. Too many bush fires and flies and too hot over there. After spending several Christmases in a row locked up in our apartment to avoid the smoke, we moved back here. Though, if my children move over to the land of their birth, we’ll probably follow them, but we have a few more years before they are old enough to do anything like that.

    Besides, I like NZ, even though it’s completely mad. :-P

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  13. Lucia Maria (2,641 comments) says:

    Redbaiter,

    Absolutely right at 4:37pm. The madness that infects NZ causes some people to interpret concepts in very strange ways.

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  14. Redbaiter (10,361 comments) says:

    Actually, on reading the press release, this is an exceptional distortion of what Craig says, to a degree that almost borders on dishonesty.

    It goes to show to just what lengths the Progressive left will go to to hold onto power within the National party.

    Here’s what followed on from the paragraph Farrar has quoted above-

    “The New Zealand Parliament is simply too liberal to ensure the best interests of New Zealand. On the other hand the Australian Parliament are taking a more conservative approach, and reaping the benefits. Australia are not prepared to play fast and loose with their social legislation and economic management.”

    “Economically Australia is getting it right. Careful budgeting has produced surpluses seven times in the last ten years. Their economy is growing, and wages are now an estimated 40% higher than in New Zealand. A far cry from when New Zealand wages were higher than those in Australia just a few decades ago.”

    “Socially Australia is also getting it right. For example, they didn’t impose an outright ban on smacking children. Instead they brought in sensible restrictions that protected a parent’s right to discipline their children. That same common sense has been used when it comes to gay marriage, and they have wisely refused to entertain the proposal.”

    Perfectly OK and quite reasonable.

    Well said Mr. Craig, and a big poke in the eye to the liberal loser John Key.

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  15. wf (480 comments) says:

    Honest reporting or not, got a spontaneous laugh from me.

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  16. Akaroa (612 comments) says:

    I’ve no brief for Colin Craig or his party in any supportive or approving political sense. (I’m a dyed in the wool Nat.)

    But I think he’s right on the button when he says:

    “Once again Australia has made the smart decision by refusing to make unnecessary and detrimental changes to the definition of marriage”.

    Many years ago someone once said something about New Zealand being admired for always being in the forefront of World opinion and being a society that took up issues and positions ahead of the rest of the World.

    That may have been so once, but we sure seem to have gone off the rails big-time latterly if this particular issue is anything to go by!!

    There’s no kudos or global admiration to be gained from promoting something as nutty as same sex marriage!!

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  17. mara (769 comments) says:

    Bigots because we don’t agree with the homosexual marriage brigade? Yeah, right, whatever. At least they don’t want to behead we same sex marriage deniers/infidels. Is it coincidental that the same liberals who demand this new form of marriage are also easy about the Islam/multiculti business that will , when ascendant, murder the lot of them, and us? True freedom of speech seems to be disappearing at a remarkable rate under the guise of liberal liberals. Conservatism somehow seems a lot freer.

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  18. rolla_fxgt (311 comments) says:

    So when’s Colin leaving?

    We should all throw him a leaving party.

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  19. JMS (367 comments) says:

    Redbaiter,

    the reason Australia is doing so well relative to us, is they have so many mineral resources and we have too many taxes.
    What the hell has gay marriage got to do with GDP?

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  20. Kevin (960 comments) says:

    I stand corrected. Please can the conservatives keep away from gay bashing, abortion and christian fundy stuff…please for all our sakes.

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  21. Cunningham (846 comments) says:

    FFS why can’t there be a sensible party on the right that doesn’t contain wankers like CC or political infighting like ACT. There is such a big opportunity just waiting to be grabbed but National would be deluded to go anywhere near this guy and his party with statements like this.

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  22. Griff (8,419 comments) says:

    Red do you not see the funder mental error in your statement of a”suffocating control “when it comes to the rights of others

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  23. Lucia Maria (2,641 comments) says:

    JMS,

    What has gay marriage, etc (ie morality) got to do with GDP?

    Everything. We lose our soul, we lose our future.

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  24. JMS (367 comments) says:

    Lucia Maria,

    the real threat to the future of western civilisation is Islam and welfare dependancy.

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  25. kowtow (8,927 comments) says:

    Craig says something sensible on maori and water……..ignored.

    Craig says something sensible on redefining marriage….outrage and scorn.

    It’s a campaign of vilification.

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  26. Brian Smaller (3,965 comments) says:

    @JMS – I agree. And forgetting our own cultural heritage. I am sick of people being ashamed of being European. Fucking pathetic losers.

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  27. Redbaiter (10,361 comments) says:

    “Please can the conservatives keep away from gay bashing, abortion and christian fundy stuff…please for all our sakes.”

    Fuck you and your blind arrogance.

    I’ll say what I want.

    “Red do you not see the funder mental error in your statement of a”suffocating control “when it comes to the rights of others”

    No I don’t and neither do I need a blind crosswired Progressive like you lecturing me about it.

    You just do not get it.

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  28. Don the Kiwi (1,808 comments) says:

    David.
    You are starting to appear like a rabid left wing progressive.

    Your headline is totally disingenuous, in relation to what Colin Craig said.

    Disagree with him by all means – but you are starting to sound like the sensationalist, liberal, shallow MSM in this country.

    Redbaiter @ 4.42 pm. is dead right.

    And all the wankers here who cry down Colin Craig are wrong. Sure, he gets some stuff wrong, and engages mouth before putting brain in gear – but most of what he says is right. Its interpretted by our LameStreanMedia – and now DPF apparently – deliberatelt wrongly to ridicule and denigrate the guy.

    What’s happened to fairness and objectivity?

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  29. Redbaiter (10,361 comments) says:

    “statements like this”

    OK Cunny, you big right wing man, why don’t you tell me what’s wrong with his statement instead of just lamely spewing your guts in line with every other uninformed brainwashed dickwad who thinks opposition to gay marriage is all about bigotry?

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  30. RRM (10,097 comments) says:

    “The New Zealand Parliament is simply too liberal to ensure the best interests of New Zealand. On the other hand the Australian Parliament are taking a more conservative approach, and reaping the benefits. Australia are not prepared to play fast and loose with their social legislation and economic management.”

    Well those words are all very well Wedbaiter, except that they are just utterly meaningless drivel aren’t they? Unless Kolin Kwaig seriously believes Australia is benefitting economically from having a conservative approach to gay marriage.

    If so, you’d have to ask: how? I wonder if Kolin (or even you) could explain in what way gay marriage costs the country money?

    The way you disciples of Kolin Kwaig are squirming, anyone would think John Key was talking about making buttsex compulsory Wedbaiter :-P

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  31. Redbaiter (10,361 comments) says:

    Progressive policies cost the country money because they assist in breaking down moral barriers.

    Liberals think laws can fill this void but they cannot.

    That is the paradox.

    Liberals say they are for freedom and tolerance, but in fact they are the ones writing mountainous volumes of laws and regulations all designed to curb the kind of behaviour that before they became ascendant was controlled by a sense of morality in the population.

    The laws fail, society keeps sinking and we all must pay the resulting monetary cost of increasing violent crime and family and marital breakdown.

    At the same time, vicious and cowardly Progressives like RRM stalk and conduct hate campaigns against anyone who disagrees with them. They are not tolerant at all. They are authoritarians in disguise who would seek to exact severe social punishment on those who would challenge them or disagree with their ideas.

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  32. RRM (10,097 comments) says:

    Progressive policies cost the country money because they assist in breaking down moral barriers.

    More meaningless rhetoric. You can do better than that Weddy.

    A childless gay couple are likely to be both working, not making any drain on the education system, not using a community services card, have more discretionary cash to invest/spend, etc.

    I think you’ll find it’s no-income breeders who are costing the country money…

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  33. Redbaiter (10,361 comments) says:

    Only a lame arse like you would think the argument is confined to homosexuals.

    Its your attempts to apply a totalitarian political culture overall that Craig is talking about you boring lamer.

    Fuck off anyway, I’ve got far better things to do with my time than correspond with a deranged stalking loser like you.

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  34. RRM (10,097 comments) says:

    society keeps sinking and we all must pay the resulting monetary cost of increasing violent crime and family and marital breakdown.

    I call bullshit.

    Evidence please for gay marriages cause increased violent crime? Or that’s BS.

    Evidence please for gay marriages cause marital breakdown? Or that’s BS.

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  35. lcmortensen (38 comments) says:

    Don’t count your chickens before they hatch, Colin. There is a second Same Sex Marriage bill before Australia’s Senate at the moment!

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  36. Griff (8,419 comments) says:

    master Red baiter all us liberals are going to hold you down and do nasty butt sex deeds on you cause that wot nasty liberals do force conservonutters to marry men and have butt sex :shock: You will turn gay and you will enjoy it.

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  37. RRM (10,097 comments) says:

    Fuck off anyway, I’ve got far better things to do with my time than correspond with a deranged stalking loser like you.

    No you haven’t got anything better to do Wedbaiter, you’ve just spent the last 25 minutes doing nothing but. Fuck I’d hate to be you….

    And bitch please, you don’t have rights to tell anyone to fuck off on any website except your own one. :-)

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  38. Craig Ranapia (1,266 comments) says:

    The day after the bill passes, I’ll happily give my Evil Namesake a lift to the airport. Even shout him some snacks to take the edge of the awful airline food. Fair exchange?

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  39. nasska (12,076 comments) says:

    ….”you don’t have rights to tell anyone to fuck off on any website except your own one.”……

    Well, that was at least one message Reddy managed to get across…..last time I checked ‘Alexa’ for ratings ‘Trueblue’ was the Marie Celeste of the blogosphere.

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  40. BigFish (132 comments) says:

    Looks like someone’s already booked his ticket. Can’t say it’s a loss.

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  41. scrubone (3,097 comments) says:

    I’ve said there should be no legislative ban.

    I think you’re confusing banning something in legislation and creating something in law that does not exist.

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  42. barry (1,191 comments) says:

    theres no such things as bad publicity………………..

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  43. Viking2 (11,661 comments) says:

    nasska (4,528) Says:
    September 20th, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Well, we can’t say we weren’t warned……by this time next year ‘NZ Conservative’ will be hosted in Sydney & the combined wisdom of Lucia Maria, Fletch & Andrei will be lost to the rest of us.

    Bummer! :)

    naaska, look who is missing?

    oh yep that man of all things conservative, the controller general himself, the We are being controlled by the progressives and I want to be the controller, yep the inevitable Redbaiter.

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  44. Viking2 (11,661 comments) says:

    At the same time, vicious and cowardly Progressives like RRM stalk and conduct hate campaigns against anyone who disagrees with them. They are not tolerant at all. They are authoritarians in disguise who would seek to exact severe social punishment on those who would challenge them or disagree with their ideas.

    Redbaiter (862) Says:
    September 20th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    “Please can the conservatives keep away from gay bashing, abortion and christian fundy stuff…please for all our sakes.”

    Fuck you and your blind arrogance.

    I’ll say what I want.

    “Red do you not see the funder mental error in your statement of a”suffocating control “when it comes to the rights of others”

    No I don’t and neither do I need a blind crosswired Progressive like you lecturing me about it.

    No chocolate fish for guessing who wrote that. :lol: :lol:

    Oh Red by the way, Australia is riddled with progressive corruption from the Labour left and the unions. I’m sure you wouldn’t want that for us.

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  45. Andrei (2,653 comments) says:

    That is very different to parents who stay together, even if of the same sex

    No such thing as same sex parents – biological impossibility!

    Shows how utterly deluded supporters of same sex “marriage” really are.

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  46. big bruv (14,211 comments) says:

    “Gun loving, bible bashing Ultra right wingers like bedwetter stalk and conduct hate campaigns against anyone who disagrees with them. They are not tolerant at all. They are authoritarians in disguise who would seek to exact severe social punishment on those who would challenge them or disagree with their ideas.”

    There you go, fixed it.

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  47. RRM (10,097 comments) says:

    No such thing as same sex parents – biological impossibility!

    Dumbfuck!

    I know two gay couples who are raising children, clothing feeding and housing them, sending them to school… parenting them, you might say. Shows what you know.

    Kiwiblog’s Christian Taliban – our ignorance is just as good as your knowledge, since 0 A.D.

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  48. Andrei (2,653 comments) says:

    I know two gay couples who are raising children

    I am sure you do – I do as well , a very sad little boy who is being raised by two lesbians – miserable existence really, they are utterly clueless as to what a boy needs.

    But while one of the pair is his mother, the other who is a real freak show lesbian isn’t his father

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  49. Viking2 (11,661 comments) says:

    Only in Australia.

    http://screencast.com/t/OeKhcHezCE

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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  50. Chuck Bird (4,890 comments) says:

    “Personally I doubt a single person will swap countries because of how Australia and NZ voted on same sex marriage.”

    You are maybe right but a few married people might as they do not want the schools helping to indoctrinate their children that homosexuality and particularly bisexuality is a valid lifestyle choice.

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  51. Fletch (6,516 comments) says:

    Gay actor Rupert Everett on the idea of being brought up by two dads –

    The 53-year-old told the Sunday Times Magazine that his mother Sara had met his boyfriend but “still wishes I had a wife and kids.”
    “She thinks children need a father and a mother and I agree with her,” he said. “I can’t think of anything worse than being brought up by two gay dads.
    “Some people might not agree with that. Fine! That’s just my opinion.”

    Indeed.

    Apparently this isn’t the first time Everett has made a controversial statement on gay parenting.  According to the Huffington Post, Everett said in 2009 that the idea of two men having a baby is “egocentric and vain.”

    “I think this surrogacy thing is crap. It is utterly hideous. I think it’s egocentric and vain. And these endless IVF treatments people go through. I mean, if you are meant to have babies then great. But this whole idea of two gay guys filling a cocktail shaker with their sperm and impregnating some grim lesbian and then it gets cut out is just really weird,” he allegedly remarked.

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  52. Ryan Sproull (7,360 comments) says:

    Oh, Everett’s an expert on the matter just because he’s gay, Fletch? God, you politically correct people elevating the homos to a higher status than the rest of us.

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  53. PaulL (5,446 comments) says:

    Right, so if we disagree with how people bring up children, or think what they’re doing isn’t “right” or “not what the child needs” then we can just ban it? Excellent. I’ll be sending you a list of things you do that aren’t on my approved list of stuff to do with children. I’m very against physical discipline, I think teaching religion before the age of 18 is morally wrong, and I think it’s very important we always avoid any gender stereotyping.

    Or is it only your bigotry that has value, not mine?

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  54. eszett (2,450 comments) says:

    Chuck Bird (2,529) Says:
    September 20th, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    “Personally I doubt a single person will swap countries because of how Australia and NZ voted on same sex marriage.”

    You are maybe right but a few married people might as they do not want the schools helping to indoctrinate their children that homosexuality and particularly bisexuality is a valid lifestyle choice.

    Oh Chucky, at his favourite topic again, his tireless crusade, 20 years behind the times as usual.
    Homosexuality and Bixeuality is legal and thus already a “valid lifestyle choice” (whatever that means, it’s just another typical moronic misnomer as it is neither a lifestyle nor a choice.)

    So if that’s your worry, maybe you are better off somewhere homosexuality is still illegal. Uganda maybe?

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  55. eszett (2,450 comments) says:

    So, Fletch, how do you feel about your new favourite hero, Clint Eastwood, coming out in favour of gay marriage. Must be such a disappointment after his “wonderful” speech at the GOP convention.

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  56. Lee C (2,720 comments) says:

    This has all the elements of a hilarious comedy – where a homo-phobic Kiwi family bustle themselves onto the last flight to Oz only to land in …Sidney.

    Ha ha.

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  57. James Stephenson (2,265 comments) says:

    Oh, Everett’s an expert on the matter just because he’s gay, Fletch?

    Deliberate misinterpretation much, Ryan? Everett’s view does kind of undermine the meme that people opposed to gay marriage and adoption just “hate gays”.

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  58. grumpyoldhori (2,205 comments) says:

    It will be interesting when gay marriage goes through here( no I’m not worried that gay marriage will effect mine) and gay married couples move to Aus, would the convicts refuse to recognise NZ gay marriages ? refuse entry to Aus for gay married couples ?

    Will we be getting a lot of gays fleeing Aus so they can be married, the amusing part about those against gay marriage is they are the ones who rant too often about equality.
    Shit I’m in favour of gay marriage because it will piss the book of fairy tales mob off.

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  59. Craig Ranapia (1,266 comments) says:

    Gay actor Rupert Everett on the idea of being brought up by two dads –

    Well, bully. I wonder if Rupert has told his close pal Madonna “children need a father and a mother”; and whether he consider adoption as “egocentric and vain” as IVF.

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  60. Liberal Minded Kiwi (1,495 comments) says:

    If I have to cover myself in glue, roll around in pink feathers and mince about every single high street in New Zealand – to get Feltch, Lucia, Redbaiter, Chucky Bird and Andrei on the next plane to Australia, fuck it – I’ll do it. Loads more gays in Australia than here in Kiwiland and best still, we can get past the gay marriage issue in peace.

    We can legislate to change the word straight to gay and then make sure everybody is in a gay marriage. Free blow jobs for Redbaiter too.

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  61. MrTips (103 comments) says:

    Actually, the context and focus of Craig’s press release was leadership, so I’m not surprised that Lyndon Hood and David Farrar are confused; the concept is foreign to both Labour and National.

    The fact that Australia voted down homosexual marriage and no-one gave a rats scares the hell out of the liberals here. They are afraid that someone might catch the common sense virus.

    Homosexual marriage is a non-event: vote it out and get on with more important things in our economic and social climate here in NZ.

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  62. Dazzaman (1,081 comments) says:

    I doubt any conservatives would leave for a few game playing poofters…don’t worry KB liberals, that’s most of you, aside from Colin & his wife…we’re here to stay. Whoop it up at Colins expense for 5 minutes I’m sure you all feel happy. Childish nonsense while the arch liberal JK smiles & waves while the SSNZ sinks.

    Imagine what a cesspool NZ would be with you liberal numbnuts holding sway. Oh wait, you already are, and it’s a shithole…except in my backyard.

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  63. ChardonnayGuy (1,230 comments) says:

    I do hope that the dear old sock cons who flee the Kiwi nest realise that Tasmania, New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia have their own state-based same-sex marriage bills underway after the rebuff in the federal Australian Parliament last week. Added to which, I don’t think they’d be very happy in either Victoria or the Australian Capital Territory, given that both their legislatures have decriminalised abortion.

    And quite frankly, isn’t it incongrous to see someone who calls himself “Conservative” barracking for the likes of (shudder) Julia Gillard, merely because she listened to the bully pulpit on this issue?

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