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Is there more to this ‘Waitangi gravy train’ story than they say here ? http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/7717735/Aid-pay-delays-crippling-firms
Has the Justice Department been paying out when it should not have ?
What does ‘poor invoicing’ by these Waitangi lawyers actually mean ?
Is there a possibility the Justice Deaprtment will pay out just to sweep the rort under the carpet.
Rather I would hope the article indicates that the Justice Department is on to them, and sorting out any trickery.
But Principals Federation president Paul Drummond yesterday backed schools continuing to hold out on providing results.
“I think it’s entirely appropriate for a board to make that decision, and they have to evaluate that in their own contexts. I would be supporting any school that made a considered decision about its stance on national standards.”
The only thing that is appropriate for boards in this context is to comply with the law. It would seem to me to be thoroughly irreposonsible for the Principals Federation to be advocating or condoning action which results in non-compliance with the boards’ legal obligations. So much more so given that the response from the govt will be directed at the board, or the school through the board, and the not the principals directly.
A great “lead from the rear” approach. And somewhat insightful in my opinion Mr Drummond
White House administration now admits that Libyan attack was a terrorist attack, and had nothing to do with the youtube video as was claimed.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney finally telling reporters a week after the incident, “It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack,”
“I would say yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy,” Matt Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said Wednesday at a hearing of the Senate Homeland Security Committee
There was no protest beforehand as was claimed. It was an armed attack.
A Libyan security guard who said he was at the U.S. consulate here when it was attacked Tuesday night has provided new evidence that the assault on the compound that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. ambassador to Libya, was a planned attack by armed Islamists and not the outgrowth of a protest over an online video that mocks Islam and its founder, the Prophet Muhammad.
The guard, interviewed Thursday in the hospital where he is being treated for five shrapnel wounds in one leg and two bullet wounds in the other, said that the consulate area was quiet – “there wasn’t a single ant outside,” he said – until about 9:35 p.m., when as many as 125 armed men descended on the compound from all directions.
This is a HUGE failure of the Obama Administration’s foreign policy of appeasing Islamic nations.
It’s even coming out now that a British firm was hired to guard the Embassey and they had a “no bullets” policy.
The State Department selected a private British firm to provide security at the American mission in Benghazi, Libya in part because it was willing to accept the “no bullets” rules of engagement signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Breitbart News has learned.
Gee, thanks Hillary. Let’s post guards with no bullets in their guns, because, you know, Muslims will be offended by guards with loaded guns.
On September 10th, the eve of the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, a new video was released by al-Qaeda spiritual leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri calling Libyans to rise up against Americans and avenge the death of Al Qaeda #2 Abu-Yahya al-Libi, who had been killed by a US drone attack in June. Contemporaneous accounts of the video make no mention of any reference to the anti-Islam YouTube video that is now being blamed for the recent Middle East violence.
The al-Qaeda video calling for revenge for the death of Abu-Yahya al-Libi is significant to the attacks in Libya because Abu-Yahya was from Libya. Hence the suffix to his name “al-Libi.” Libyan terrorists and Islamists knew Abu-Yaha well. He was a hero to the Islamist extremists in that country. The announcement of his “martyrdom” would surely have a significant resonance on the “Arab Street” of Libya. Add to that the built-in significance of the anniversary of the September 11th attacks, and even an amateur observer of world events would see a security concern brewing in Libya.
I live next to a decile 10 primary School – you can see this also by the mother’s cars at school time ends.
BUT looking at their published results today I am horrified at the conclusion, which I can only (seriously) attribute to the teachers playing silly buggers with their figures. This is actually a very good school with probably no parental neglect, so results most puzzling
They had a selected party recently when the unions were revolting (sic), for selected mothers and fathers, thanking them for their support for the teacher’s stand.
The Herald reports that children in bigger classes get better National Standards results than do children in smaller classes.
Now I recall – I think – some comments recently from teachers that the government policy of slightly increasing class sizes for better teacher quality was a pathway to doom and destruction………
It seems that national Standard figures might not show the full picture of a school – but they sure as hell might show the limited brainpower that exists among teachers and teaching professionals……………”
OR could it be that better schools attract more students. And maybe that the parents of these students who decide to send their children to school B (better, but further away) rather than school A (underperforming, but close to home) are the sort of parents who feed and clothe their children, read to them, encourage them and took them to kindy?
More on Labour wanting supporting Winston Peters wanting to broaden the focus of the Reserve Bank through his proposed eserve Bank of New Zealand (Amending Primary Function of Bank) Amendment Bill – Cunliffe has been pushing the same.
Bur as Brash kept asking and Parker kept failing to addreess – what would they do different, part from do something different? Parker said:
Inflation targeting for New Zealand has passed its usefulness, it was very important at the time to focus solely on inflation, but at the moment we face competitive devaluation abroad.
I think it’s still important to target inflation, as Brash said, inflation erodes the value of wages.
And one of the biggest problems with trying to compete with monetary devalution measures – many other countries have much bigger money printing presses than us. We can’t compete.
Forget about Reserve Bank, Peters,Brash and Cunliffe,more effort needs to be put into standardising the eftpos counter machines at retail outlets and petrol stations so time is not wasted in swiping yer card incorrectly.
One of the problems with this Islamic jazz is that all the world leaders “respect (all) religions”. True leadership deals in truth and that doesn’t include religious belief. Discussion of religion from “leaders” should be based on critical thinking and science. That process is at a higher level than (say) denigrating his nibs and engages a higher functioning mind.
“Senator Bernardi has been treated appallingly by the MSM (of course), but also by many in his own party. Yet his speech was first rate. So let me here offer large slabs of it, since the MSM will never allow his actual words in context to see the light of day:
“I have been and always will be a strong supporter of traditional marriage and its current definition, being a union between a man and a woman. Marriage is accorded a special place in our society because it is a union that is orientated towards having children, thereby ensuring the continuation of our population and civilisation. Society benefits from marriage, so marriage is accorded benefits by society. At the base level marriage is concerned about what is best for society, rather than being concerned about the so-called rights of the individual. Changing the definition of marriage would indeed change the focus of the institution itself. It would put the focus on the desire of adults, as opposed to having the focus on the production and nurturing of an environment for the raising of children for the benefit of society.
“I know that not every marriage has children but marriage is a foundation for the family unit upon which our society is built. It has proven itself as the most sustainable and effective social support and training environment for our future generations. I recall columnist Miranda Devine quoted a UK Family Court judge in 2010 in which he noted that family breakdown is the cause of most social ills and that, despite its faults, marriage should be restored as the gold standard and social stigma should be reapplied to those who destroy family life.
“The Australian Institute of Family Studies has found that children of married couples benefit from marriage because they have higher levels of social, emotional and educational development in comparison with children who do not live in that traditional environment. Married mothers are more likely to be employed or hold a university degree and married-couple families are less likely to come up against financial problems. While the authors of the research were keen to stress that this is because of a family’s financial situation and the educational qualifications of the mother, it does give me cause to wonder: doesn’t marriage itself help to provide financial stability and better outcomes? That seems to be a case for opening marriage up to any environment and to any union of two people, as Senator Cameron said, who happen to love each other, but in a family environment it is children who should be the primary concern and children benefit from having both a male and a female role model living in a house—two people that love each other in a permanent union.
Islam is the new communism which is warring against the free West, and unless we stand against it, we will lose everything. That is why Wilders has had to go through all this misery, and that is why he has written this book. He has seen his own nation deteriorate rapidly, and he wants to see it – and the West – freed from the shackles of a seventh century political ideology.
Marked for Death: Islam’s War Against the West and Me
by Geert Wilders
And that is what Islam really is: “I am talking about the ideology of Islam, not about individual Muslim people. There are many moderate Muslims, but that does not change the fact that the political ideology of Islam is not moderate – it is a totalitarian cult with global ambitions. We should not treat Islam more leniently than other political ideologies like communism and fascism just because it claims to be a religion. We must treat Islam as we do every other despotic creed that calls for the submission of those who do not adhere to it.”
Despite the left’s portrayal of the Dutch politician and freedom fighter as a firebrand maverick and redneck, one certainly does not get that impression reading this important book. It is an intelligent, calm, well-argued and thoughtfully written volume, buttressed by over 700 endnotes.
Wilders is not an outside observer of what Islam actually does to a Western nation: he has experienced it firsthand. For example, during his 20 years living in a borough of Utrecht he saw it transformed from a peaceful, law-abiding and clean community to a much different place.
“As Islam exploded, crime spread throughout the district – cars were vandalized, people were robbed, and eventually Dutch women no longer felt safe in the streets. Marxists claim poverty causes crime, but I noticed the opposite: crime reduced the area to poverty. . . . As lawlessness spread, Dutch residents began moving out and Dutch shops closed down.” And that has been repeated throughout Europe and the UK.
Mass migrations of Muslims, a failed policy of multiculturalism, and naive appeasement policies by the Westerners have resulted in huge and growing problems. And this has not happened by accident: the goal of Islam is the establishment of a universal Caliphate, with everyone submitting to sharia law.
The Islamic doctrine of immigration is a political strategy of taking a nation over from within. The first step is to establish a mosque as a beachhead. While we may see these as mere religious symbols, Muslims see them differently: as the beginning steps of taking over the kafirs’ (unbelievers’) lands.
He quotes Turkey’s prime minister: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers”. Muslim immigration, following the example of the Prophet, is the mandatory means by which a non-Muslim culture can be captured. It stops only after total submission. As Muhammad said, “There is no Hijra [migration] after the Conquest”.
Europe now has well over 10,000 mosques, and in many European cities entire areas are no-go zones for non-Muslims – including police and fire personnel. While gullible Westerners are basically welcoming these ominous developments with open arms – and closed eyes and minds – it is all one-way traffic of course.
Bereal, that man in that video ought to run for President of the US or perhaps the UK Prime Minister. That’s how politicians in the West should talk like. Speak the truth (even if it is insulting to the Muslims) and stop this fucking appeasement. The result of this appeasement is what causes the Muslims to keep poking the eye of Western values, since they see the leaders of the Western societies as weak and apologetic to them.
Members of the Green Party (Keith Locke, et al) are the chief sympathizers & appeasers to the Muslims.
I think it’s still important to target inflation, as Brash said, inflation erodes the value of wages.
Socialisn erodes the value of wages. Inflation is ineffect the result of socialism.
Money is a tradeable commodity that raises or falls upon demand. The cost of that money is either in interest rates or in changing values when being exchanged.
In our case the demand has risen because of the socialist attitudes of govt.’s since the 60’s when we stopped being entreprenurial,, started stealing from the productive and started controlling where the money was spent by the following years of the socialists in Govt. including this one.
No longer do we trade goods & services according to the ability to pay but on the never never.
No longer do we rapidly and easily build new, world leading export companies.
Instead we place every barrier known to the socialists in the way of acheiving that. Hence rather than replacing old companies with new we prop up old one.
(see the issue with Tait comms new building from yesterday)
There are very few new rising industries or business groups that are unique NZ arising these days.
The last one was the Kiwifruit industry and we have now stuffed that. A bit of software doesn’t equal another kiwifruit industry.
If anyone else can name another major new exprt industry unique to NZ please do.
Here’s Wilders & Steyn talking about our national interests – This is what needs to be said at Nats and Labours national conferances.
due to Wilders’ efforts. “Indicative of its new outlook, in July 2011, the Dutch government did something that no other nation has dared to do – it denounced the Organization of Islamic Unity (OIC), the tyrannical organization of fifty-seven Islamic countries, most of them barbaric dictatorships, that tries to bully Western nations into submitting to Islam’s diktats.”
It also built a stronger relationship with Israel; boycotted the anti-Semitic Durban III conference; banned public uses of the burka; toughened up naturalisation requirements; and in general took steps to resist the slow but steady Islamisation of Holland. The result: “Those who settle in the Netherlands are now obliged to integrate. … Immigrants must benefit the Netherlands, not the other way around.”
Of course Wilders has paid a great price for all this…. he had to go through a two-year trial in his own country for “hate speech” .
As Mark Steyn said, “In twenty-first-century Amsterdam, you’re free to smoke marijuana and pick up a half-naked sex partner from the front window of her shop. But you can be put on trial for holding the wrong opinion about a bloke who died in the seventh century.”
He concludes with some steps to preserve our freedoms and resist the spread of radical Islam:
-Defend freedom of speech (and repeal all hate speech laws)
-Reject all forms of cultural relativism
-Stop the Islamisation of the West
-Cherish our national identity.
The rationale is this: “We have to stop pretending that Islam is merely a religion – it is primarily a totalitarian ideology that aims to conquer the West. A free society should not grant freedom to those who want to destroy it.” He finishes his invaluable volume with these words:
“If we do not oppose Islamization, we will lose everything: our freedom, our identity, our democracy, our rule of law, and all our liberties. It is our duty to defend the legacy of Rome, Athens, and Jerusalem.”
Near the end of the book he cites the assassinated US President, William McKinley: “That’s all a man can hope for during his lifetime – to set an example – and when he is dead, to be an inspiration for history.” Wilders has certainly been both an example and an inspiration – and so far he is still alive to continue in his important work.
And that folks is why we need National standards in schools – so as to broaden the vocabulary of future Nat/Lab MP’s and their spineless leaders. 😎
Forget about Reserve Bank, Peters,Brash and Cunliffe,more effort needs to be put into standardising the eftpos counter machines at retail outlets and petrol stations so time is not wasted in swiping yer card incorrectly.
“As Charles Dickens said in 1838 the law is an ass – and it’s important that the Government cleans it up. No candidate for public office should go through what I had to go through.”
Given your above-mentioned publicly-stated concerns about the local electoral law ‘being an ass’, and needing to be ‘cleaned up’ – I would like to give you the opportunity to ‘put your money where your mouth is’ (as it were), on this matter.
I am formally requesting that YOU please be the Member of Parliament to present the following petition to the House, at your earliest available opportunity:
“That the House conduct an urgent inquiry into the findings of the Police investigation into the allegations that the Hon. John Archibald Banks, CNZM QSO, submitted a false donation return in respect to the Auckland Council Mayoral election 2010 – that it was not unlawful for the Hon. John Archibald Banks, CNZM QSO to sign and transmit his candidate’s declaration of expenses without first personally checking and verifying that the information provided (by another party) was accurate.”
You may find it to be noteworthy that the first signature on this petition is that of Kim Dotcom, whose financial assistance to your 2010 Auckland Mayoral campaign, you may recall?
Looking forward to your prompt response to this VERY important matter.
Paulus at 9.24. Good post.
But if you are going to have a go at the muppets of the education industry please ensure that your punctuation is correct.
Your reference to the parents being rewarded for appreciating the teacher’s stand. Hey! it is teachers’.
It reminds me of a placard in a teachers’ protest march some years ago;
“Our countries teachers are the best in the world.”
“A gay man and his partner once asked me, ‘But how can you say our relationship is wrong? We’re not hurting anyone and there is no victim.’ I asked them, ‘Would you approve of two adult gay brothers having a relationship?’ They both replied, ‘But that is so wrong!’ Yet when I pressed them further, they could not say why their relationship was fine but that of two consenting brothers was not. So, what’s it going to be? Do we hold the line on marriage as the union of a man and woman only, or do we eventually open the door to incest too?”
Yep, and who said there is no such thing as a slippery slope. When we seek to redefine the core meaning of marriage, we simply gut it of its very nature, meaning and purpose. And the activists expect and demand that we go along with this demolition job, promoting it, encouraging it, and advancing it.
This my friends is the real nature of homosexual “tolerance”. The activists do not tolerate us, they hate us and are bent on destroying us and our institutions. We are in a war, and one side will prevail. If you care about your children and grandchildren, at the very least, then you need to be aware of this war and you need to be taking a stand before it is too late.
What, Muslims who are not Jihadists, they must be confused.
They need to ask the mouth breathers in this country who believe all those of the Muslim religion to be would be terrorists.
The same dumb mouth breathers who believe none of the xtian mob could ever be a terrorist.
How many billion$ of public monies could be saved by ‘CUTTING OUT THE CONTRACTORS’?
Where’s National’s ‘corporate welfare’ reform?
Which of the maor political parties are pushing for ‘corporate welfare’ reform and shrinking the long-term dependency of the private sector on our public monies?
Where is the ‘devilish detail’ at both local and central government level – which shows EXACTLY where our public rates and taxes are being spent on private sector consultants and contractors?
Why aren’t the names of the consultant(s)/ contrators(s) – the scope, term and value of these contracts, published in Council or central government Annual Reports – so this information on the spending of OUR public monies is available for public scrutiny?
The radicals are in a perpetual state of taking offence, and no amount of grovelling, apologising or appeasement will change things. Indeed, a steady stream of apologies and kowtowing to the radicals simply ups the ante, and causes them to make even more of a stink, and expect even more silly responses from the West.
“Einstein’s definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.”
By this standard, our foreign policy in the Middle East has been managed by crazy people since 1979.
“You cannot ask me to sacrifice my freedom so as not to offend savages.”
“It’s acting like a battered wife, who accepts a beat-down from her husband as justified punishment for burning his dinner – or Koran.”
This double standard also reflects incoherent thinking, a failure to apply consistently a principle that presumably has universal validity. Hence we celebrate and practice “tolerance” at the same time we enable, ignore, excuse, and rationalize intolerance.
In the West’s struggle with Islamic jihad, our doubts about the superiority of Western beliefs have coupled with this breakdown in ethical reasoning. The result is the appeasement of jihadist aggression and the confirmation of the jihadist estimation of the West’s weakness and corruption’.”
As Mark Steyn has said, “They can’t keep taking offense at everything”. But it seems that is just what they are seeking to do. The more they take offence, the more we apologise and grovel on our faces before the militants. And the more we do that, the more they take offence.
I wonder why Kim Dotcom is being given so much attention. Sure he is a character but we must remember he is wanted by American justice for criminal acts. Whether or not John Banks has broken any rules about election donations he is hardly as low as Dotcom. Banks has been a loyal public servant for a large part of his life. Why does the media give so much credence to the sleazy fat German?
Karl Du Fresne is most interesting on Kim Hill in his blog (link below).
Du Fresne’s points on the leftist Hill deserve to be paralleled to someone dusting up that other leftist fogey, Chris Laidlaw. Today he provided a soapbox for Richard Towle, of the United Nations refugee program, to lecture New Zealand on what it should and should not be doing in regard to boat people and other illegal immigrants. How dare the UN presume to tell us how to run our policies on illegal immigration.
“We would not see creeping into the debate into New Zealand that there is an economic motivation (of boat people) … ” said Towle.
He also said the expression “queue jumper” was misleading, and the UN was deeply disturbed to see the term creeping into debate in NZ.
There is no queue (of refugees) and never was one, said Towle. Illegal refugees are merely exerting an international right, he said.
What gives this world organisation, dominated by international dictatorships and West-hating tyrannies, the right to tell NZ citizens how to run their borders?
Over all, there hasn’t been an economic rationale for Radio NZ since the 1930s, when it was a Government initiative to pioneer a then new technology. This socialist baby has stayed forever on the taxpayer’s tit. Why didn’t the centre-right and the right adopt it out to a commercial network long ago?
Can anyone enlighten me whether Radio NZ fell into its present policies or was Radio NZ hijacked by the left. I would describe Radio NZ’s overriding policies as feminist, left-wing, sickly liberal, and secular. It is torn between multiculturalism and biculturalism.
If you go to this du Fresne blog link, the Kim Hill kill is the second item down:
“Give us the child for eight years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.” – Lenin.
That point is this: we already do have hardcore religious preaching taking place in our public schools.
It happens every day in every school in the country. And the religion being taught in all our schools is that of secular humanism.
Secular humanism is a worldview with a set of basic beliefs which address the basic issues of life. And it has its sacred texts, its prophetic voices, and its list of dos and don’ts. It is a worldview and it is a religion. Even the US Supreme Court ruled that secular humanism is indeed a religion.
So our academics are being quite disingenuous at best, and fraudulent at worst, in saying there should be no preaching in our public schools. It happens every day. Secular humanism is the default worldview which is being promoted in our schools all the time.
Abraham Lincoln was certainly correct when he stated, “The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation is the philosophy of government in the next.” And the philosophy of the classroom today is unquestionably that of secular humanism.
Education is not values neutral………………Labour’s Teachers Union are Commies…..Marriage wreckers…..family wreckers…..! 😎
Big Bruv- You are taking your life into your hands daring to suggest “Sir Ritchie” is anything but the second coming!
I recall commenting after the RWC final last year that “Saint Ritchie” might have got away with one after quite conveniently “accidentally” stoving the French goalkicker’s head-in…Christ the torrent of abuse and name-calling I got from normally level-headed Kiwibloggers almost made me blush!
Worth remembering that Gifford does tend to get carried away- only last week he made the claim that Val Adams was our “greatest athlete ever”…and a couple of years ago he claimed that Dan Carter was in fact the “greatest rugby player of all time”!
I thought he actually said that Peter Snell was our greatest ever, and the Valerie was reaching parity with him but that a gold in the next Olympics would put her ahead.
Anyway you’d need to look at his definition of a number seven in perspective in terms of Ritchie, maybe including the caps he’s had would put him the greatest catagory but I doubt that he could ever be said to have eclipsed Michael Jones in playing a similar number of tests. But we’ve had magnificent seven’s always and Phil is reaching the ‘statesman’s’ stage so I guess he feels that qualifiies his opinion over that of others.
Labours Teachers Union agree that there is only room for one ideology and worldview in NZ public schools, and that must be secular humanism.
So this is what passes for education nowadays. It of course has absolutely nothing to do with education, and everything to do with mass brainwashing, with mind control, and with a ruthless and totalitarian campaign of indoctrination.
No wonder so many concerned parents are withdrawing their kids from these PC hotbeds. They have had enough of the brainwashing, and want their children to have genuine education by real teachers, not militant homosexual thought police turning their kids into PC zombies.
PC is intellectual lazyness – bought to your children via Labours Teachers Union! 😎
Wow! THe Charities Commission won’t give Charities status to the Sensible Sentencing Trust! Most interesting. It doesn’t qualify, the following organisations do.
My understanding is that Sanitarium Food Products, which provides so much breakfast fodder for Kiwis, is fully owned by the New Zealand Health Association, which in turn is fully owned by the Seventh Day Adventist Church. This (the Health Association) is listed by the Commission as a charity, with the following:
“Commercial activity for raising funds to promote & educate healthy eating & healthy living in accordance to religious beliefs), Makes grants to organisations (including schools or other charities), Sponsors / undertakes research, Provides advice / information / advocacy.”
Also listed as a charity is the Ngai Tahu Charitable Group, including about 30 companies. Examples are Ngai Tahu Fisheries, Ngai Tahu Capital, Ngai Tahu Property, Shotover Jet, Hollyford Valley Walk.
With the Ngai Tahu listings on the Charities Commission site are the following:
Employment), Education / training / research, Health, Environment / conservation, Community development, Arts / culture / heritage, Care / protection of animals, Economic development, Fund-raising, Promotion of volunteering
(Makes grants to organisations (including schools or other charities)), Makes grants / loans to individuals, Makes grants to organisations (includes schools or other charities), Sponsors / undertakes research, Acts as an umbrella / resource body, Provides advice / information / advocacy, Provides other finance (e.g. investment funds), Provides human resources (e.g. staff / volunteers), Provides buildings / facilities / open space
(All of the above), Children / young people, Other charities, Voluntary bodies other than charities, Older people, Animals, People with disabilities, People of a certain ethnic / racial origin, General public, Family / whanau, Children / young people
Are there any accountants or lawyers who can tell us whether these chariable classifications let these two organisations operate tax free, and on what basis they can be classed as charities while the Sensible Sentencing Trust can’t be?
I have heard that the IRD runs its own charities list, but I understand that the CHarities Commission was set up to take the pressure off the IRD in making decisions about who and what are really charities.
A left leaning friend attended the protest rally concerning school closures held in Christchurch on Saturday. He felt quite at home as he noticed that those running the show were mainly from the now defunct Christchurch Central Labour. This used to be the seat held by Tim Barnett and Brendan Burns. Wayne Hawker & Yani Johanson who are known Labour activists from Christchurch Central were stirring up the crowd that seemed to have a fair number of children making speeches and prompted by their parents.
Labour are always in the background of these protests.
Thanks for the info Jack. I’ve been intending to look it up ESP the iwi stuff. It’s quite obvious the iwi businesses pay no taxes, but why aren’t real businesses and their political allies up in arms?
See my post on the child poverty thread for comments on the Child Poverty Action Group, a particularly far left pressure group with links to minto etc.
Need an investigative reporter on this – like that will ever happen
Example 3. Child Poverty Action Group
Education / training / research), Accommodation / housing, Health, Social services, Employment, International activities, Economic development, Fund-raising, People with disabilities, Promotion of volunteering
Provides advice / information / advocacy), Sponsors / undertakes research, Acts as an umbrella / resource body, Provides human resources (e.g. staff / volunteers)
Children / young people), Other charities, Voluntary bodies other than charities, Older people, People with disabilities, People of a certain ethnic / racial origin, General public, Family / whanau, Migrants / refugees, Religious groups
I see the Ozzies are not allowing Wilders to visit, but letting in a Jihadist.
Geert Wilders, the Dutch MP who frequently warns about the dangers of Islamic radicalism, has applied for a visa to visit and give speeches in Australia, but the application has stalled. The official reason for the delay is that Wilders is on the Movement Alert List, a database of people of security concern to the Australian government. It means that his application is being held up at the Department of Immigration headquarters in Canberra while more thorough security checks are done.
As if to underscore the politically correct calculations delaying Wilders’ visa application, the governing Australian Labour Party swiftly approved a visa for Taji Mustafa, the British head of the Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir, a group notorious for religious intolerance, disdain for Western values and sympathy for jihad. Prime Minister Julia Gillard said she would not be revoking Mustafa’s visa and that Hizb ut-Tahrir was not on the government’s list of proscribed terrorist groups.
WTF is wrong with these people?
Don’t they understand that by kowtowing to these Islamists they are helping to bring about the destruction of Western Society.
Good on Charlie. What a scam concurrent sentencing has been. Probably dreamed,up by,some manhattan socialists as a cocktail party joke to see if they could get away with it. Eagerly adopted by sycophantic remuera socialists here like Sian Elias.
How many have,died because,of this scam?
By the way they could get rid of this paid your debt to society bullshit while they’re at it. When they get out they should start paying back their fucking accommodation costs.
‘……WTF is wrong with these people?………..Don’t they understand that by kowtowing to these Islamists they are helping to bring about the destruction of Western Society.
It’s called Western Apathy……………radical Islam, and their never ending offence-taking. Any and every excuse will do to take offence, and they effectively have much of the West in a condition of dhimmitude, with leaders, the MSM, and our cultural elites all fearful of saying anything or doing anything which might offend the religion of peace.
And when they do say something – you can hear the planes engines starting up….and the bombs going off!
As Mark Steyn said –
“In twenty-first-century Amsterdam, you’re free to smoke marijuana and pick up a half-naked sex partner from the front window of her shop. But you can be put on trial for holding the wrong opinion about a bloke who died in the seventh century.” -[On Gert Wilders]
“We have to stop pretending that Islam is merely a religion – it is primarily a totalitarian ideology that aims to conquer the West. A free society should not grant freedom to those who want to destroy it.” – Wilders.
“If we do not oppose Islamization, we will lose everything: our freedom, our identity, our democracy, our rule of law, and all our liberties. It is our duty to defend the legacy of Rome, Athens, and Jerusalem.” – Wilders
assassinated US President, William McKinley: “That’s all a man can hope for during his lifetime – to set an example – and when he is dead, to be an inspiration for history.”
“Defending the legacy of Rome, Athens, and Jerusalem” ? – That’s the role the Aust/NZ governments SHOULD be doing Fletch! 😎
thedavinchimode 9:48am. You forgot to add this … and the right combination of ‘Anglo Saxon’. That combination sometimes takes a while to arrive at. When you do, it means the problem is either fixed, or you’ve given up, and got over it.
“That point is this: we already do have hardcore religious preaching taking place in our public schools.It happens every day in every school in the country. And the religion being taught in all our schools is that of secular humanism…”
In Harriet’s mad world there is no scientific, logical or moral distinction between on the one hand teaching impressionable children to believe in the Tooth Fairy and, on the other, not forcing such a belief on them.
In particular, not teaching them to believe in (and uncritically worship) the Tooth Fairy constitutes “hardcore religious preaching.”
Harriet, if you insist on children being indoctrinated with childish ideas about magical pixies then you must accept that every belief system must taught equally. Given the hundreds or thousands of different religions I’m not sure how you are going to fit it all in.
Far better, surely, to teach children critical thinking skills so they can decide for themselves.
But that’s the very last thing theists want, isn’t it.
“….Far better, surely, to teach children critical thinking skills so they can decide for themselves.
But that’s the very last thing theists want, isn’t it…..”
Oh c’mon watty of course it’s not the last thing- as I said yesterday –
Is this the same adult world with ‘critical thinking’, where a fully grown adult male with the same fertility rate as most other males prances up Queen st to Kylie danz muzic wearing only rhinstone spangled underpants, and all the while, believes he was ‘born’ ‘gay’ ?
Harriet:Secular humanism is a worldview with a set of basic beliefs which address the basic issues of life. And it has its sacred texts, its prophetic voices, and its list of dos and don’ts. It is a worldview and it is a religion. Even the US Supreme Court ruled that secular humanism is indeed a religion.
The US supreme court has never made such a ruling. This is an urban legend.
A teacher in a class is going around all the children and asking them what they want to do when they grow up. It eventually gets around to little Johnny’s go.
“So Johnny, what do you want to do when you’re older?” Asks the teacher.
Johnny replies “I want to be a millionaire and have a bitch, and I’ll buy my bitch lots of nice clothes and jewelry and take her on holidays all around the world on a private jet that I’ll buy for her, and have sex with her 5 times a day on our desert island.”
The teacher is shocked and has no idea how to reply, so just moves on to the next child, completely flabbergasted.
“OK…Ahem, and Rebecca? What do you want to be when you’re older?”
So Juliar Gillard is PM material? Fecking useless Welsh Bint who is a dodgy lawyer in a previous life.
I reckon NZ is stuffed, I will vote Green in 2014, it will make the transition to 3rd world country state even quicker.
The Greens will empty our wallets quicker than Hitler turned the gas tap on.
Johnboy at 8.19
If those calves weighed as much as Paula Bennett; – It just makes me think of weiner schnitzel – so lovely.
But, then again, if those calves weighed as much as Paula Bennett they would be classified as beef, rather than as veal.
So I might have that wrong.
I hope this is not too far off topic but I think it is significant.
Richard Meadows on Stuff has repeated an Inland Revenue Department handout prepared by the Department’s public relations division.
The I.R.D. has scooped up $32,000,000 in overdue Student Loan(SL) payments from SL borrowers living offshore.
Then read further and find that the SL debt of people living off shore is $2670 mil.
The IRD recovered $32 mil.
And it took them two years to do it.
They recovered less than 0.6% of the debt each year. And they have a public relations division trying ever so hard to make that look wonderful. This is pathetic.
Penny not so – It’s not going to happen you abuser of good oxygen. TVNZ polls have never been anything better than toilet paper. Shit (what they’re good for) – they probably did their poll in Otara, or even worse – Henderson.