Hone calls other Maori MPs “house niggers”
September 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am by David Farrar
Hat Tip: Whale Oil
I think one can understand why Hone didn’t last in the Maori Party, if that is his view of other MPs.
Any other MP who referred to Maori MPs as “niggers” would be resigning in disgrace.
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September 6th, 2012 at 8:11 am
As I have posted on today’s GD. he has it just about right, but it just needs a slight amendment:
“Time Hone Harawira realised a few home truths like (1) he can tell his little house niggers what to do, but (2) the rest of us don’t give a shit for him or his opinions!”
There ya go, Hone, fixed it for you.
I mean, really, apart from the usual radicals, activists, and disaffected, does anybody take Hone Harawira seriously any more? I certainly don’t. It’s a bit like any protest that I see John Minto/Sue Bradford/Penny Bright at. I just switch off, and any message they might have had is lost – because I just can’t take them seriously any more.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:16 am
But Graham, who do the media turn to first?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:16 am
Reminds me of the article on the Daily Caller I read the other day which made the point that it was actually the Dems who were unprepared for a black president, due to the way that they let (what would be judged coming from another as) racist phrases slip out so easily all the time.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:17 am
“Any other would be resigning in disgrace…….”
So why do double standards operate in this oh so progressive and equal world of ours?
Graham ,ignore them ,fine,but look at Bradford and the Bil she got through,destructive and dangerous and they can get parliament to do their bidding!
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:18 am
anyone Maori that disagrees with hone is a house nigger. He should be banned from entering parliament.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:21 am
Joris (the ex PSA union flunkie, aka a Human Rights Commissioner) de Bres, will be taking immediate action against mummy harawira’s little boy.
Yeah, right.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Correct Morgy, but the media are just after anything that will sell more papers/magazines/TV air time. So anybody with a radical or colourful viewpoint, anybody who says outlandish things, anybody who makes threats or makes racist comments or winds people up will attract the media like sh!t attracts flies.
I wonder if Hone realises that he does far more damage to ‘his people’ when he talks like this, than ever John Key has done.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:25 am
kowtow, I think (hope) that Sue Bradford was a one-off.
Hone seems very happy to complain, wind people up, throw accusations all over the place, demand action by the Government, and so on – but how many bills has he actually submitted to try to change anything? I’m not aware of any.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Yeah – that is why Bill Clinton gets a pass for saying about Obama “this guy would have been carrying our bags” but to use the words “food stamp” or “Chicago” is racist code for Uppity Nigger.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:30 am
kowtow, I think (hope) that Sue Bradford was a one-off.
A one off implementation of an ongoing policy of destruction.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:35 am
You can only call a nigger a nigger, if you are a nigger.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:40 am
“Flavell today dismissed the comments as “a normal Hone-ism”. “That’s how Hone operates. We are used to it and people will judge him on those sorts of comments.”
So, just because he is always rude and insulting then it’s OK?
I think not.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:07 am
If this is the quality of the person and the substance of the debate that race based seats bring us, then race based seats should be summarily dismissed!
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:08 am
It was a late comment on Facebook, hard to know if it was an evening piss-take or cafrefully calculated, but he’s followed up with another dig this morning.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:11 am
“Any other MP who referred to Maori MPs as “niggers” would be resigning in disgrace.”
Yeah well Hone isn’t going to resign and by not doing so he shows up the whole PC speech code syndrome that has plagued our lives for some decades for the utter load of bullshit it really is.
At its roots, it is a system designed to shape thinking, and to outlaw certain thoughts. Speech and thought control have been a major plank of the lefts’ scheme to gain political power through control of our culture.
NZers should thank Hone for undermining this utterly evil leftist strategy (one I myself have fought against for so long) even though he’s too stupid to know what he is doing.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:13 am
John Hadfield aka Hone Harawira, like all his weird family, seek publicity wherever, and the Media love it – helps make copy.
Ignore it – it is only done to stir his racialism.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Rubbish, Redbaiter.
There’s a big difference between speaking out plainly and honestly, saying what you think but still maintaining some degree of civility and decorum; and just being an insulting buffoon.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:19 am
This typifies the futility of aspiring to harmonious race relations in NZ – the double standards of sensitivity to racial denigration. Harawira has European blood in his veins, but knows that he can hide behind his part-Maori heritage and not be officially challenged if he spews out his racist insults. He continuously keeps getting away with this crap, and we all know that again, nothing will happen to hold him to account.
He is not punished by his voters in the far north Maori electorate when he displays his racism, in fact he wins more votes when his racism spews forth. It appears we have an electorate containing a majority of racists, who are happy to elect a racist to represent them…yet they expect the rest of the country to tip-toe around them lest we offend their delicate racial sensitivities. Harawira and his mob are hypocrites, the lot of them.
Why are ordinary white New Zealanders held to a higher standard of accountability than maori MP Hone Harawira? Why are Harawira and his supporters unable to raise themselves to meet the standard of accountability they demand of white ?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Nothing less could be expected from this thuggish and disgraceful individual.
Vote:How he got elected is a mystery to a majority of New Zealanders but the morons and racists that voted him in.
September 6th, 2012 at 9:25 am
but it’s all just an act from Harawira. He is a professional Maori with his snout in the trough, like most MPs.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:26 am
“Rubbish, Redbaiter.”
Graham what you need to do is stop pretending that Hone is some kind of outlier and get the fucking message.
He actually speaks for a large number of Maoris in NZ.
Its long past the time that quivering PC apologists like you faced that reality.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Ya think?
Well that’s it then. We’re screwed.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:30 am
I agree with Redbaiter.
The outrage when someone says something rude is actually ridiclous and it is designed to silence and intimidate.
Rudeness has now been brought to the level of criminality in many formerly liberal democracies.
The legislation goes through on the basis of protecting individuals ,groups ,religions or perverted sexual deviants from “harm”.
What actual harm is there in calling someone names?
All the while more fredoms are lost in the detail of the legislation.
Rude,impolite,even offensive but not a crime or in most instances a reason to be sacked.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Billy T James on horis coconuts chinks wogs niggers and poms.
From an era long gone.
http://truebluenz.com/2012/09/06/billy-t-james-on-horis-coconuts-chinks-wogs-niggers-and-poms/
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:32 am
How many? Compared to the Maori Party? What proportion of Maori? What proportion of New Zealanders?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Cannot believe an elected representive can call someone a nigger and there are no consequences.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Right. So Redbaiter and kowtow would prefer that Parliament, and society in general, descended into name-calling, rudeness, swearing, shouting, and trading insults, rather than people actually acting like mature adults and thinking about how to get their message across without name-calling, rudeness, swearing, shouting, trading insults …
If you want to join Hone and become insulting buffoons then go for it, but don’t drag the rest of society down with you.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Redbaiter at 9:31 am -
Slight difference. Billy T James was a comedian. Hone is deadly serious.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:41 am
Just because I sense a number of you don’t actually know what this means
Vote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Negro
September 6th, 2012 at 9:41 am
No one should use the N word under any circumstances. It is not funny.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:42 am
lyndon – however you look at it it’s a stink atack on Maori MPs.
One of Harawira’s supporter’s tries to explain it away by quoting Malcom X – Explaining ‘house nigger’ - but it’s still a very derogatory term for Maori MPs with more votes and support and more mana than the Mana Party.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:43 am
“Cannot believe an elected representive can call someone a nigger and there are no consequences.”
I can.
Separatism has been a feature of NZ life for some decades, and most political parties have encouraged it, and most NZers have voted for those political parties.
Once again, with the like of Hone in parliament, NZ’s penchant for mistaking reverse racism for “tolerant liberalism” has allowed them to reap what they have sown.
Its been one rule for so called Maoris and another rule for the rest of NZ for some time now.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:45 am
Paulus (1,182) Says:
September 6th, 2012 at 9:13 am
John Hadfield aka Hone Harawira, like all his weird family, seek publicity wherever, and the Media love it – helps make copy.
Ignore it – it is only done to stir his racialism.
Hone is an idiot and does things for effect and most of us ignore him as he has little impact in Parliament and has a small audience outside of it. Calling him John Hadfield is also idiotic, he has never been John Hadfield and it takes away from any point you might be trying to make.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:47 am
So lyndon, how do you think Hone intended the phrase to be interpreted then?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
If the Maori MP’s who don’t go to the huirui are “house niggers” what are Shearer and the Greens (who I gather are going). Left-wings and arse-holes?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Separatism is so ingrained in today’s New Zealand that a true racist and imbecile like Harawira can easily get away with this sort of rethoric.
Imagine the consequences of any non-Maori politician saying something similar. The Human Rights Commission, Race Relations and other quangos, let alone the left-wing press, would be up in arms asking for his/her resignation.
This is a true indictment on the current state of affairs in our country.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:55 am
If the Maori MP’s who don’t go to the huirui are “house niggers” what are Shearer and the Greens (who I gather are going)?
Organisers said Government was not invited:
So it isn’t a national hui, it’s one sided hooey.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:03 am
I have always thought that the current race relations conciliator has done more to promote racial disharmony than harmony. If does not respond to this comment, then I will be proven right.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:05 am
Pete George.
So basically this hui is about Maori who aren’t actually connected to the relevant bodies of water in anyway putting up their little fingers and saying ‘We’re Maori too… soooooooooooo we should get some property rights as well”.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:07 am
The ignorance over what the HRC can do is appalling.
The legislation it enforces defines racism as only occurring when there is an attack (verbal or otherwise) on a race based group of lesser power by a member of a race based group of greater power.
Under this definition so called Maoris (the lesser power group) can say anything they like to anyone of white European descent (perceived as the group of greater power) and the HRC will not censure them because under the above definition there is no racism occurring.
Don’t forget, you voted for the politicians who implemented this ridiculous legislation. You voted for the establishment of the HRC. You as voters are in the end responsible for this utterly disgusting Orwellian circumstance.
And don’t forget that the National Party in a complete betrayal of their founding principles, has done nothing to right this outrageously divisive stain on our civilisation and culture. Rather, they have encouraged it.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:12 am
Completely unacceptable.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Of course De Bres wont say anything. In the narrative of the left, victims of colonialism can never be held to the same standards that others are held to. As soon as they do that, there whole stupid world view falls apart.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:20 am
FFS Redbaiter. Either get some new material or just fuck off.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am
In fact it was the National Party under Jim Bolger who foisted this crap upon us in 1993/ 1994.
The Davincimoron- time to start writing another swathe of complaint emails to the host is it you cowardly snivelling and repugnant little would-be cultural tyrant?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:25 am
@ Redbaiter (9.11am) – make no mistake; Hone Harawira knows EXACTLY what he’s doing, and he knows that there will be no consequences. But imagine the outrage if John Key, David Shearer, Russel Norman or even Colin Craig used the same language to describe Harawira…
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Bolger was a complete arse fuckwit. HRC is a PC crock. So what is your point, or have you only just realised this?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:27 am
There are only two niggers in this country, Hone and his bat shit crazy mother.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:28 am
The water rights issue should be renamed the Maori Rent Seeking issue.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:28 am
I leave the bitch-whinging to you little man. It’s what you do best.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:30 am
UpandComer – it appears to be a political stunt organised under the name of the Maori king.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:39 am
“Labour is warning the Government that a court might not look kindly on its refusal to attend a hui over Maori water rights.
Maori King Tuheitia will host the hui at Turangawaewae Marae next week but no Government representative will be there.
Prime Minister John Key says the Government doesn’t support a national hui or a national settlement of the water rights issue.
Labour leader David Shearer says it’s not a good look.
“What the court will look for is that the Government acted in good faith, and these are elements of the fact they have walked away from an opportunity to act in good faith.”
The Maori Council’s Maanu Paul says there’s a strong chance the Council will bring further action against the Government.
Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Govt-not-acting-in-good-faith—Shearer/tabid/1607/articleID/268187/Default.aspx#ixzz25dZkPOeZ”
Green Party co-leader Russel Norman says John Key’s initial comment that the Government could ignore the Waitangi Tribunal’s findings got it into legal hot water.
Dr Norman says Mr Key is not showing good faith – and that could add to the Government’s problems if the matter ends up in court.
“For the Government to say that it won’t even attend and will actually ban its MPs from attending is the exact antithesis of good faith negotiation and is yet another blunder from this Government.”
King Tuheitia’s spokesperson Tuku Morgan says Mr Key was not invited to the hui, but all other MPs are welcome to attend.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/115130/mp-ban-on-attending-water-hui-'another-blunder‘
Act in good faith means, presumably listen at at time when so much has already been listened to? I can’t see how a court could decide the government hadn’t listened on the basis of not attending a hui?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:40 am
“Bolger was a complete arse fuckwit. HRC is a PC crock”
So if you agree with me you idiot, what the fuck are you complaining about??
The fact is that this legislation should have gone long ago and it should have been National who did away with it. Rather they initiated it and they maintained it. Just as a far left government would do.
Its why I always say NZ is in reality a one party state and this needs to change.
And it has become this way because National have betrayed their founding principles and this one event is at the root of every one of our social and political problems, including most prominently the problem discussed above.
(because of the HRC act 1994 passed into law by National)
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Y’all honky mofos need to chill the fuck out i say…fuck what a nigga says!!!
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:46 am
HARAWIRA IS STILL A LOOSE CANNON – ASTONISHMENT
Don’t reward this kind of behaviour with attention. Just ignore it.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Just wondering if someone should put the question to Hone of how he sees himself…As a field nigga or a street nigga, maybe a bush nigga or a sea nigga… ?
…so many niggas to choose from.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Re Acting in good faith.. I suppose the answer is that the hui casts a wider net. It could go against the rent-seekers if the bottom of the pyramid doesn’t support it?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:48 am
BWAV, you must be Hone’s illegitimate son.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:49 am
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gee…thats a lot of niggers!!!
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:50 am
From a historical viewpoint I find it strange the way some Maori like Hone have appropriated Black American slang for themselves. In the US Hone would certainly not be considered Black or have the right to use the n-word himself the way Blacks can. Calling other Maori “house niggers” is just as inaccurate because the term has its roots in slavery, a condition Maori only ever suffered at the hands of other Maori and which Pakeha missionaries freed them from.
I’m hoping Hone doesn’t get away with this racist bullshit again, since this time his attack was on Maori and that has always been a big no-no. I don’t see how anyone can defend him as not being a racist after this. Remember all the controversy and attacks from feminists over the relatively innocent joke on Trevor Mallard’s FB page the other day. The left should be crying out against Hone ten-times harder after his FB comments.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Fuuny how (years ago) as the song went: “What we need is a great big melting pot” yet now the progressives celebrate diversity.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 10:57 am
From a historical viewpoint I find it strange the way some Maori like Hone have appropriated Black American slang for themselves…
…don’t listen to much hiphop do ya ?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Since y’all ask, yes it’s an vicious race-based insult. But he’s not deriding them for being dark-skinned: he’s calling them race traitors. You may be more familiar with ‘Uncle Tom’.
Dim-Post http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/09/06/that-word-again/ has video with Malcom X, who is agreed to have popularised the phrase.
FWIW I think it’s been applied at least by analogy in a wide variety of racial/enthic politics.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:03 am
hj
Progressives demand, indeed legislate absolute equality and at the same time exhort us to embrace and celebrate diversity and multiculturalism.
Vote:It’s simply a tactic to confuse,command and control. All the while attacking the traditional view of society.
September 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am
I’m complaining, fool, because you are just so utterly fucking boring. You are a broken fucking record with your tedious pointless 20 year grand strategy (pfft) divided into two ten year phases during which you say the same fucking thing day in day out for the first 10 years and have now embarked upon the second 10 year phase of saying exactly the same fucking thing day in day out all over again for another 10 years. Why, with just a little more thought you could have made it a thirty year plan and then spent yet another 10 years saying exactly the same fucking thing day in day out all over again for yet another 10 years. So you can preen yourself all you like idiot, over this cunning masterplan (double pfft) and delude yourself into thinking that you are making inroads into stemming the red tide, but the reality is that you are just a boring rancid old git who hasn’t had an original idea in his life and hates the world because from the day you were born, nobody particularly wanted anything to do with you. Which is perfectly understandable given that you are such a boring rancid old git and in fact even when you were in reality a young boring rancid git, people still perceived you as an old boring rancid git. That certainly says a lot for the extent of your mind-numbing boringness and tedious rancidness.
Please, at least try and mix it up a bit – give us a “knuckledragging homo leftist scum” for old times sake because we haven’t had that for a couple of months.
BTW, here’s a tip: it isn’t 1994 fuckwit. OK? You just think that because of the alzheimers.
Now off you go, complain to the teacher just like you did at school.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:05 am
There does seem to be a bit of a power struggle between those claiming to speak for all Maori, you’ve got the Maori Council taking this to the Tribunal in the first place, while the Government’s merrily negotiating with the “Iwi leadership group” behind closed doors and now the “King” has stuck his oar in too..
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Especially such a one-sided divisive hui – it will be difficult to see this hooey as a sign of good faith.
Half the MPs (at least) have been deliberately excluded. Most New Zealanders have been excluded. It’s certainly not a ‘national’ hui. Who’s water hui? The king of who?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am
QFT…Peter Dunne yeah?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Brown with no clue at all
fuck off nigger we get it already
The nz pc censoring of the word nigger is stupid we have our own racist language
IE Hone and his rangi collection of stupid followers in the mana less party is nothing but a childish hories attempt at playing politics#
#hears knock on doors and is arrested for racist remarks and tried by the racist rights commission because he is white and can be a racist even when considering the obvious attempt at pointing out his lack of disgust at the use of nigger by hone towards the uncle tom party
The true insult to race relations is we allow race based political movements to exist in fact we encourage them by having racist seats
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:19 am
lyndon: Yes, I was aware that Hone was implying that the Maori Party are traitors to their race.
I’m just not sure of the point you were trying to make. Do you think that’s somehow better than just using a straight-out racist term?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:24 am
All you left wing cultural tyrants adopt the same strategy Davincimoron, and that is to try and portray anyone who opposes you as an outlier, or someone who has little support.
This is of course most often a lie and designed to try and preserve the status quo you have engineered, that status quo being one underpinned by political correctness, Marxism and other fashionable lies and exaggerations and distortions.
In fact my views are representative of a large section of the population that you would try and disenfranchise from social comment, and this fact is proved true by means of the simple fact that almost all my posts on Whaleoil, where there is the means to measure their popularity, are met with enthusiastic approval from most who press the vote buttons.
So your lengthy and repetitive outpouring of bile above is nothing more than lies and bigotry and it examples the Progressive’s (that’s you) previously successful but now failing strategy of cultural Marxism that is every day exposed more and more for the deceitful sham it always has been.
So fuck you and your lies and your pathetic and cowardly attempts at cultural tyranny.
You’re done. Get used to it.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:24 am
…and have done since the first colonist set foot here and set up the first racist colonial gov’t…whut whut!!!
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Now trying to work out what Redbaiter’s point is …
I *think* Redbaiter is saying:
1. We’re all claiming Hone doesn’t have a lot of support, when in fact he does.
2. It’s actually really grown-up to call people names, be appallingly rude, swear, shout, and trade insults in order to make your point.
To which my reply is:
1. Ya think?
Vote:2. Ah, no, it’s actually really childish.
September 6th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Graham- another one of the thousands of pitiful victims of the socialist indoctrination process that has replaced the education system in NZ.
Completely crippled in comprehension skills.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Ok all you whities, pipe down about this. Only Maori have the right to call people niggers in New Zealand.
Ok, I know the Treaty of Waitangi doesn’t cover speeches made in the US, but this is one of a number of comments claiming that it’s fine for Hone to abuse Maori MPs but the rest of us should shut up about it because we either don’t understand or simply don’t have the right.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Pete: there’s a valid point to that.
Because Hone is within the community, for him to insult other members of that community is far worse than an outsider doing it. Because you can brush off an outsider’s comments: “Oh, they don’t really know what they’re talking about; they can’t relate to me; they don’t understand my culture/family/way of doing things”.
But for someone who is a member of your ‘community’ to use such a vicious insult must really cut deep, right to the bone.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
graham
Redbaiter does have a point. Just one. It is repeated ad nauseum in response to every imaginable topic. And when he’s pulled up he deploys the strawman, as he’s just done, and follows up with a splash of bullshit and a dash of preening self-righteousness – as he’s just done. When it gets too much for him he has a wee sook.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:53 am
We progressives like gays, foreigners, etc.
We just want the law of the land to treat them all the same way as it treats us.
Sorry if you find this confusing.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Redbaiter said
Is this the bit where Colin Craig rides in on a white stallion to free us all from tyranny?
You’re right Redbaiter; if that’s what happens next, we are indeed “done”.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Black with a Vengeance (767) Says:
September 6th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Just wondering if someone should put the question to Hone of how he sees himself…As a field nigga or a street nigga, maybe a bush nigga or a sea nigga… ?
…so many niggas to choose from.
Actually, if you ask around Rotorua and places the Nga puhi are known as “bush pigs”. Despised they are.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:57 am
My god. If any blog post needed moderation it’s this one …
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
‘You’re right Redbaiter; if that’s what happens next, we are indeed “done”.
..and a good thing. You Progressives who have for decades attacked our traditions, and our Christian heritage, and our native culture, are the true cause of every problem that we now struggle with, including Hone Harawira.
Your demise from the political scene will see sanity return to public discourse and restraint and common sense return to government.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
(cont.) Actually, the more I think about it, the nastier and more vicious Hone seems.
Because if you go along with that quote that Pete has just provided, claiming that Hone is “within the community”, what is being said is that Hone is calling ‘his people’ class traitors.
“Within the community”. So would anyone here call a member of their family (a community) ‘a traitor to our family’? That’s what that commenter is saying, really. And that is just nasty, nasty, nasty.
I wonder how Hone would feel if somebody from his own Maori tribe called his mother “a traitor to her people”?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Graham –
Ask Wedbaiter any question, on any topic.
He’ll never answer you, just shower you in meaningless obscenities, and insist it would be a waste of his precious time talking to anyone as ignorant as yourself. (
Bless him!)
He’s very well read on most of the American and English far-right political nutter websites about how our leaders are lizard people who are in league with Islam to destroy the west; but all he does is parrot their talking points, though he’s capable of drawing some simple (if fanciful) parallels to our NZ politicians… I don’t think there’s a lot of understanding there.
His comments on Chthoniid’s photography posts have been most enlightening… I know a bit more about cameras than I do about American politics, and it quickly became clear that even when he is hopelessly ignorant about something and has leaped to completely the wrong conclusion, he’ll still carry on exactly the same way: he’s the world’s expert and everyone else is either stupid, or corrupt, or both.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
graham – it’s interesting to see those who want water rights contested are happy to make all sorts of bizarre excuses for Hone’s deliberate abusiveness and attempt at division for political purposes.
The comment was meant to be nasty – as were other comments he made on Facebook last night and this morning.
And some people are defending it to suit their own political purposes. They’re as bad as he is.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
I’m not defending Harawira.
I’m pointing out the plain and simple reason (IMHO) why parliament and the political discussion has deteriorated to this low point.
That is cultural and political tyranny by Progressives.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
It’s rather depressing to know that there are enough dimwits out there to vote in scum like Harawira.
Vote:MMP is fucking great ain’t it!?
September 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Every Court needs its Jester nonpartisan.
I don’t think Hone Harawira is going to be someone who has any enduring significance.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
The Prime Minister would be well advised to reconsider the following statement:
“If you are an MP in the Government, you represent the Crown and any representation by my MPs at such an event would be interpreted as representation by the Crown and I’ve made that position absolutely crystal clear: I do not accept the view that there needs to be national hui because I do not accept there will be a national settlement because I do not accept it’s a national issue.”
Wrong.
King Tuheitia called the meeting for iwi leaders, the Maori Council and politicians to try for a collaborative approach on Maori rights and interests in water.
There are no restrictions on the Maori Party to attend the Hui therefore it is illogical and inappropriate for Hone Harawira to resort to insults, Hone Harawira owes Tari and Pita an apology for his offensive language.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
“It’s rather depressing to know that there are enough dimwits out there to vote in scum like Harawira. MMP is fucking great ain’t it!?”
That’s perfectly correct, and yet the theme of so many commenters on here is that he is unrepresentative.
He isn’t.
He has wide support, and the reason he has this is because both Labour and National, two peas in the same pod, have exploited and promoted separatism.
Especially the John Key National Party, who invited the Maori Party to co-govern when there was no need to do so. (Thereby giving them undeserved prominence.)
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Oops, looks like the meds have carted him back in time to Berlin, circa 1933.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Go to his profile:
http://www.facebook.com/hone.harawira
Find the nigger post in question, click on the ‘x’ which shows up if you hover near the top right of the post, click ‘report as abusive’ – select ‘targets racial group’. Click submit report.
If enough people do this, it will subject Hone the inconvenience of having to prove to Facebook why he should have his account unsuspended.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Question: how many flat screen TVs has Hone bought out of his parliamentary allowances budget and where are they all? Why does he not co-operate with parliamentary services when they ask?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
I don’t think Hone Harawira is going to be someone who has any enduring significance.
David Shearer had said he was happy to go to the king’s hui, but I don’t know if he still will be. Is it a good thing to be associated with?
And it raises a wider question – would Labour have Harawira in a coalition? That would exempt them from his hissy fits if he doesn’t get what he wants. And imagine negotiating C&S agreements with Peters, Norman and Harawira.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I’d be inclined to agree with Red: Hone does have a lot of support among the Stone Agers. They deserve each oher, I guess.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
KevinH:
There would appear to be restrictions:
So the king seems to be selective about who he will invite.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RB has not substantiated that (and I don’t expect him to, he rarely backs up claims he makes)
About 1% voted for the Mana Party and he won one seat. That’s less than the Maori Party, and far less than the Maori % of population.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
You may care to examine the phrase “wide support” more carefully. In the General Election in 2011, Mana gained just under 20,000 votes, 1% of the electorate, countrywide. I wouldn’t exactly call that a ringing endorsement.
Thinking about the Te Tai Tokerau by-election – yes Hone won, with 7139 votes, but he was always going to. There was only 41 percent voter turnout, so not exactly a huge interest. And even some of those votes were probably swung to Hone with his message “vote for me and you’ll get two MPs, because Kelvin Davis will get in on the Labour list anyway”. His strongest support came from poor and disaffected Maori in Northland – no surprise there.
Incidentally, remember how, after the by-election, Hone said “Maori people want the Maori Party and Mana to be alongside one another and alongside the people … If we can manage our relationship so that we’re not fighting one another and focus on the needs of our people, then we might be able to bring the Maori Party and Mana together, maybe with eight seats, Mana Maori.” Yeah, looks like he’s still trying to work alongside the Maori Party, doesn’t it?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
If 1% is right that’s about 20,000 people.
Not an insignificant number.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
“Find the nigger post in question, click on the ‘x’ which shows up if you hover near the top right of the post, click ‘report as abusive’ – select ‘targets racial group’. Click submit report.”
So speaks the Progressive’s version of the Hitler Jugen.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
So (reference what I said earlier) it’s Maori Party and “Iwi Leadership Group” on one side and the King and the Maori Council on the other then…
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
So speaks the Progressive’s version of the Hitler Jugen.
No, it’s exercising a right to free speech. I realise you don’t support free speech on your blog, but some online social media do allow it.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Dumbarse.
I support your right to say anything you like on your own blog.
I just don’t want your worthless shit cluttering up my own.
The rules of commenting on TrueblueNZ are perfectly clear.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
James Stephenson – “the King and the Maori Council on the other”
And Mana seem to be heavily involved with the Maori Council.
I wonder if Harawira was speaking on his own or for the King when he abused the Maori Party and it’s MPs and trys bait them regarding the hui.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
My comment would be that Redbaiter is right and that the views of Hone Harawira hold wide support. I was first exposed to these radical views of racism in the 1970s when I was with a group of social work students who were roundly lambasted by Hone’s mother Titewhai Harawira. Basically their view is that the Maori of New Zealand are the victim of institutional racism. They are the underclass who are the victim of the Pakeha over class. This is classic Marxist thinking.
Since then this is the predominant view of the white secular Liberal elite that run this country. Many of you fall into this category.
Therefore Hone can say whatever he likes because he is the victim of institutional racism. Racism is when the oppressor, in this case white people, screw down the oppressed, in this case Maori people. Now Hone can never be a racist because he is one of the oppressed. So everything he says is okay because it is the product of his authentic rebellion against the institutional discrimination that has held Maori in poverty and second-class citizenship for decades.
That is why we have Waitangi tribunals giving nearly ending settlements to the oppressed Maori which will go on for the foreseeable future. Because there will always be a new claim and there will always be white liberals with an excessive sense of guilt against the perceived crimes of their colonial forebears.
So Redbaiter is quite right – the problem is white liberals who have become infected with neo-Marxist philosophies about colonial oppression.
The solution I believe is quite clear. End all race-based settlements within the next five years. That’s it. We have run out of taxpayers money anyway.
Secondly remove all race-based Parliamentary seats. People should get into Parliament on merit.
Thirdly let’s have one rule for all. Justice needs to be blind. Not based on the colour of our skin. There we go – problem solved
Have a happy day and God bless.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
“The rules of posting on TrueblueNZ are perfectly clear.”
Yes, free speech forbidden on TotalitarianblueNZ.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Your banal and over simplistic comprehension of the concept of free speech is as crippled as every other political understanding you hold.
(and illustrates so starkly why I won’t tolerate your time wasting and tedious drivel on my blog)
Only governments through legislation can limit freedom of expression and or free speech.
“the problem is white liberals who have become infected with neo-Marxist philosophies about colonial oppression.”
Well said, and exactly the problem.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
By comparison to Harawira – Cowin Cwaig’s Conservative Party got 2.65% of the party vote or 59,237 votes. So Harawira is even less representative than him. Just the Court Jester, not worth worrying about.
However my inner conspiracy-theorist asks – could Harawira be acting as a deep-cover activist for the Maori Party? And Could it be that the Mana & Maori Parties are really acting as a co-ordinated team with a shared goal?
Reasons:
(1) These loose “It’s just Hone being Hone” comments make Sharples / Turia / Flavell look sensible & statesmanlike by comparison, and this is probably good for consolidating Maori Party support among less radical Maoris who don’t aren’t demanding the land back and are more looking for a reason not to vote Labour. He is all the evidence you need that Maori Party are not a bunch of radical idiots with pie-in-the-sky ideas and big mouths.
(2) Maori Sovereignty activists you’d expect Harawira to be courting would SURELY not be impressed by Harawira aligning himself with a limp-dick peace activist like Minto? So why has he done it? Could the reason be to run interference for the Maori Party, attracting the ire of Kiwibloggers and everyone else who think the Maoris get too much already, thus sparing the Maori Party the bulk of that sort of attention?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
scott
It’s not just a question of settlements. That type of stuff you describe is right through the school curriculum.NZ children are being taught that their ancestors are evil oppressors.
Vote:They are then dragooned into celebrations of Maori and Pacific culture,while NZ culture is ignored/denigrated.
The media play the same theme constantly. Anti tour,anti Vietnam,racial equality,antiAmerican,anti nuclear,anti militarism. These are the good things of Aotearoa NewZealnd,eh bro.
The latest fad is environmentalism and clean greenism.Commune with nature like the natives.
September 6th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Red Farm:
Free speech for everyone except Progressives, commies, Nationalites, Labourites, Greens and anyone who questions me on a blog (but my mates Colin and Hone can say whatever crap they like).
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RRM – interesting theory, but don’t forget, Harawiras.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Cunningham 9:33. I can. It’s the Socialist double standard at work. He can get away with it due to being part Maori.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
@RRM – so what you’re saying is that Mana are to the Maori Party, what ACT are to the National Party?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
i caught a bit of radio live just after lunch. LMAO
I dont like to be like a leftist and label people with opposing views as idiots etc. but holy hell willie jackson is not real bright.
Listening to him defending hatfield is fucking hilarious.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RRM
Tell your inner conspiracy-theorist it’s wrong. It’s simply that Hone bin a Ma’fa is an arse, a loser, a hate merchant and a rallying point for all Maori who are too lazy to take charge of their own lives.
He is Maoridom’s own little Redbaiter.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
“Cannot believe an elected representive can call someone a nigger and there are no consequences.”
I cannot believe that John Key would tell his Maori MPs that they are not to go to any hui, and the same MPs would respond “OK, boss”.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Oh no he’s not, davincimode.
Harawira has not just sat in his bedroom penning anonymous vindictive little blog posts on the internet. Harawira has raised funds and set up a political party, and he’s gone out there in public and said what his ideas are, and he’s convinced over twenty thousand people to vote for him.
He may not be anything much, but he’s head and shoulders above Redbaiter
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Fair point.
Sorry Hone, that was offensive and uncalled for.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Hone would love one of those: http://news.yahoo.com/photos/convention-goer-stands-convention-floor-first-day-democratic-photo-230750114.html
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Everyone will have to retract their comments. Harawira now “denies calling MPs niggers”.
And he’s deleted it off Facebook, after it’s been spread all over the internet.
I wonder who smacked his hand and told him to backtrack?
He might be good at generating attention but he’s not so good at hiding from it when it blows up in his face.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Does Hone actually understand the Internet?!
Doesn’t he realise that as soon as someone like him posts something that inflammatory, someone is bound to get a screengrab just as quickly as they can. You can’t just deny it.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
He’s also been widely reported by MSM. I think he has been severely smacked down, but I won’t call him any names for being bossed around.
Ironic after accusing other MPs of being under command.
There are several Hone Harawira Facebook pages, but the one he posted on is not available at all, it’s not just the post that’s gone.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
His mum used that description of Maori members of the Labour Party at the time of the Foreshore legislation.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Back in the 80′s from memory, I flew up from Wgtn to Auck. to attend an international conference on employment. This conference was totally hijacked by Hariwera and co. I sat in the 1st row of the audience for a time watching guests being insulted at length by this woman and her acolytes braying and sneering in Maori while, all about me, there was non-comprehension, embarrassment, martyred tolerance or confusion. I was eventually sickened by this so made my way to the centre aisle and commenced the LONG walk to the back door exit. I damm nearly expected a spear in my back on this long walk but NOBODY had the guts to join me. Some sat there in their neo-liberal glory and pretended, really hard, that I was simply having a toilet break. Those people were in the early stages of indoctrination. Now it is largely complete.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
you mean it has been whited or blacked out? By in house over stayers? Another case of cyber bullying,but by whom?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
MH, if you were a goldfish I’d think twice before wiping the carpet fluff off you and putting you back in the tank.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
What Hone was referring to was Key and his relationship with President Obama,it just has been taken out of cornflakes.
Vote:You carpetbagger you.
September 6th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
That’s a bit like Ripley calling the alien a mum.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
@ mara,
Interesting. What was her issue with the speakers at the employment conference?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Fully expecting Campbell and Walrus to jump right on this tonight and do the empty seat trick while they excoriate Hone for his outwageous wacism.
Tui ad.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Very well. His tribe is about to lodge a Waitangi Tribunal claiming the intellectual rights to it.
Vote:The Maori tribes were not only cannibalistic but very smart too.
September 6th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Eating brains makes you brainy !!!
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
BWAV, you and your whanau must have Einstein’s IQ.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
ONE NEWS showed what appeared to be Hone’s Facebook page on screen.
Vote:But instead of “niggers” it said “n*****s”. “Shit” was also softened with a couple of *s.
Perhaps a complaint should be made to Joris de Breeze, asking TVNZ to apologise for misrepresenting Mr Harawira right to express himself fully in race relations.
September 6th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
And ONE NEWS have just done it again – headlines summary on Harawira reports “…he likened them to slaves”
NO he fucking didn’t. He called them ‘NIGGERS’
In fact ‘HOUSE NIGGERS’
– A black person that does their best to please white people even if it means disowning their own racial identity.
Again, perhaps a complaint should be made to Joris de Breeze, asking TVNZ to apologise for misrepresenting and diminishing Mr Harawira’s right to express himself fully about race relations.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Reid
The Thunderbirds puppet: “So, he appears to acknowledge that his language was inappropriate. But what was it that brought about this outburst? Is this a sign of complete frustration over John Key’s plans to privatise Mighty River Power and other state-owned assets? I met with some of Hone’s supporters today”. (interview with deadshits outside W&I Kawakawa Money Dispensary)
Fungus face: “Well, Hone’s done it again. But what was the cause of this amazing outburst. Is it a sign that Maori are feeling left out of the Government’s economic recovery? Gosh Hone, you’re such a character.”
There ya go. You don’t need to watch or channel flick for fear of missing something.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Thanks for that DVM I really hate watching them as I fear I’ll be infected with their profound idiocy. If I ever have to [watch them] I’m hoping ACC will give me a break and fund me for the rest of my working life on 80% of my current salary because “I just couldn’t stand it anymore.”
Existential on-topic question DVM: are the Thunderbirds puppet and Fungus Face
or are they mere employees who’ve simply turned mental for reasons unknown?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Honky, Peta, Torana – fight you bloody Moaris.
Vote:Popcorn time, go for it
September 6th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Harawira’s trying to weedle his way out of abusing Maori MPs now and trying to blame Key for it all. Of course Key is out of the country and can’t defend himself.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Strong performance from Hone on TV3. Key snubs important Hui.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The proposed offence aims to make it illegal to send “a message or other matter” – whether by text, Twitter, email or Facebook that is “grossly offensive; or of an indecent, obscene, or menacing character; or knowingly false”. To make the criminal charge stick you’d also have to show that the sender was out to cause substantial emotional distress to someone else.
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/09/the_cyber-bullying_law.html#comments
Fits Hone?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Strong performance from Hone on TV3.
In the sense of preaching to the converted Hamnida or in the sense of reaching out and apologising to those whose forebears and ourselves built all the roads, schools, hospitals and all the infrastructure, while Hone et al sat around moaning about some distant past which can’t possibly be recreated unless one travels back in time and gives those Maori ancestors MG42s which is about the only thing which would have pwevented the hated colonisation which built all of that aforesaid shit?
Has it ever occured to you Hamnida to ask yourself just why it is that Hone and the Gweens and all the other mentals who behave as if the above would have been preferable, to ask yourself: what precisely did the 15 or so generations who’ve called NZ home since that time, really achieve for this nation? I mean forget the material things, cities, roads, factories, schools, hospitals etc you see around you, what about the intellectual things, like the Westminster legal system, like the education system which goes from primer to tertiary, what about the international relationships we’ve got due to our CommonWealth heritage. Out of all of this, none of it, is ever mentioned by the lefty idiots who completely eschew it, as if it has come about by accident and as if it would have come about anyway, if only Maowi had been left in peace to pwance and fwolic thwough the fowest.
They never even address that do they Hamnida. Not Hone, not Mutu, not Walker, not Sykes, not Iti, not Jackson, etc etc etc. None of them. And in so doing, they generate, deliberately, this hallucination, this magical fantasy, amongst the extremely poorly educated Maori and that’s most of them, that they deserve better.
The only reason they ever get traction is because their audience are idiots. You’re not Hamnida. You need to do some thinking, if you’re thinking they’re the ones who have the high ground.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
Prime Minister John Key says none of his ministers or MPs will attend Thursday’s hui, but it is up to Dr Sharples and the Maori Party’s other co-leader, Tariana Turia, to decide whether they will.
Both are ministers but they won’t be able to attend in that capacity.
Mr Harawira used Facebook on Thursday morning to criticise the Maori Party for not making up its mind.
“Time John Key realised a few home truths like (1) he can tell his little house niggers what to do but (2) the rest of us don’t give a s*** for him or his opinions,” Mr Harawira said.
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/14771271/sharples-decides-to-attend-national-hui/
Interesting little study for some university at great expense –
Vote:Why some will say ‘nigger’ but not ‘shit’
WTF?
September 6th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Reid
Give up . Hamnida will call you a racist as you do not agree with her. Thank Christ I keep well away from these people.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Racial.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Good God, everytime this guy flaps his lips, mainstream Maori cirnge (poor buggars). Anybody gonna lay a complaint with our infamous, Mr Race Reconcilator? His reply should entertain us for a while.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Hamnida
You sound like a very sad individual who believes that your country has been stolen by the uncaring white man. Hell if we had not turned up you would have most probably killed each other as tribes were at war with terrible results. Build a bridge and get over it. Stop falling back to worn out phrases such as what you have thrown at me.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RF – Right Wing Propoganda.
Maori were at peace.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
RF – You can live life hating Maori, but I’m not going to.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
OK. Not sure what you are smoking .. But it’s better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Maori were at peace.
Hamnida – Left wing propaganda.
Maori were at war. They always are. Even today. Haven’t you noticed? it happens all the time. Why therefore do you hallucinate that back when everyone was much less educated and much less “civilised,” that it wasn’t happening on a much more brutal and daily basis?
To hallucinate thusly just goes against commonsense vis-a-vis human nature: i.e. how humans actually really truly behave, regardless of what you prefer to believe and regardless of what propaganda you’ve read which panders to your pre-determined mindset. I mean just as a teeny really really mild insignificant and trivial example of the principle in action today with Hone vs the Maori Party MP’s over what he said today.
Sure it’s hardly a Wahaika in the head but given Hone’s an MP and he says stuff like that, does that say anything to you about reality vs fiction in how Maori might actually have behaved back when everyone was roaming around? Or do you seriously, seriously think the poor innocent naive darlings were just prancing round the forest caring for small furry animals and the taniwha at the local swimming hole and that’s all they ever did before the evil white man came along and taught them how to kill?
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
I believe that early Pakeha historians tried to portray Maori as a violent race. Their theories have now been disproven and replaced by the truth. The fact is Maori were far more advanced than settlers could have imagined, often trading with nations thousands of miles away. Maori kept the environment in balance. Aotearoa was a wonderland, fill with birds, wild animals and sea life. A cultural paradise.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
If you repeat that line every day for the next 5 years you might just start to believe it. But then again I am sure that you are not that thick.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Haminda. Surely you jest? Learn some NZ factual history. A good place to start is in the basement of many libraries where the real truths lurk. You are obviously completely ignorant of this country’s history.
Vote:September 6th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Wow, looking at Hamnida 9.36pm (and some previous comments) – come on the game’s up, you over-egged the pudding mate, you have to be a RWDB (possibly Mr Redbaiter) doing a reverse moby trolling. No one could be that deluded surely?
Vote:September 7th, 2012 at 6:12 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
I think Chris Rock’s definition of ‘Nigger’ would probably apply bet to Hone.
Vote:September 7th, 2012 at 6:55 am
I think the central the irony being Amnesia doesn’t understand how patronising and racist such a ‘noble savage’ construct is.
Vote:September 7th, 2012 at 7:35 am
A land where most popular pastimes among the highly civilised natives were pillage, looting, and cannibalism. What a hoot.
Vote:September 7th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Hone now tries to explain himself. Apparently his comment wasn’t directed at the Maori Party, it was directed at Maori MPs in the National Party.
Oh good. That’s so much better. Because it makes such a huge difference when you find out just who he was calling house niggers, and implying they were traitors to their race.
There’s another interesting point. Hone says ‘I didn’t call anyone a house nigger’. Hmmm. Rereading the quote, I can kind of squint in a certain way and hold my head on an angle and agree that technically he didn’t call anyone a house nigger – but that’s really stretching it, Hone.
Come on, Hone – everyone knows exactly what you were saying, and just what you were implying. Man up. Don’t try and wriggle out of it now.
“Time John Key realised a few home truths like (1) he can tell his little house niggers what to do, but (2) the rest of us don’t give a shit for him or his opinions!”
Vote:September 7th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Hamnida – September 6th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Bwahahahahaaaaaaaa
This latest comment could only have been written by one of two propagandists: Hamfisted or Josef Goebbels.
But even Goebbels would have struggled to get 7 outright porkies into one paragraph.
Vote:September 7th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Sorry, forgot to add the link: http://www.3news.co.nz/Hone-Harawira-Ner-slur-not-directed-at-Maori-Party/tabid/817/articleID/268325/Default.aspx
Vote:September 7th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Hamnida: I have just noticed this… “Maori were at peace”… Are you serious..Have you read ANYTHING at all about pre-Euro NZ history?
Or are you one of these idiots who thinks that the educated remittance men and literate whalers and sealers who wrote early accounts all somehow colluded with each other to paint a false picture?
Vote:September 7th, 2012 at 10:42 am
RRM is spot on> “And Could it be that the Mana & Maori Parties are really acting as a co-ordinated team with a shared goal?”
This is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. A little while back Turia was caught on camera wearing her Maori Army issued berret. She described it as “something she never wore and had to hunt through the draws for”. If you google up the photo you will see it is worn so little the edges are actually worn out. You can guarantee she puts it on everytime their army meets to figure out, with Hone, how they can get more whilst doing less, from the “white mothers fckers”. Lets not forget thats what we are to them. As the people of this country get more and more complacent the bleeding heart liberals, led by the nose by the Greens (the communist reds dressed in green) are taking this country rapidly down the toilet. Time to wake up people!
Vote:September 7th, 2012 at 10:56 am
To Hamnida,
Vote:If you’ve ever gone past your front door (which I doubt) you would have travelled to the South Island and seen beautiful rolling treeless hills grazing sheep. Prior to whitemans arrival they were covered in native forrest which Maori set fire to so they could force Moa out to capture and eat. Oh – thats right, Moa are now extinct because in your paradise they all got killed and eaten, just like the original settlers – Moriori, by the Maoris. It is ignorant people like you that this country should be very very afraid of as you soon like on of our esteemed liberals now destroying this country.