Marriage in Tasmania
September 28th, 2012 at 3:00 pm by David FarrarTVNZ reports:
Same-sex marriage advocates in Australia say the fight is far from over after Tasmania’s go-it-alone bill failed in the state’s upper house.
Tasmania’s 15-member Legislative Council voted down the bill 8-6 on Thursday night.
In August, it had become the first such bill to be passed in an Australian lower house.
This must make Tasmania a bit special as the only state where brothers and sisters can marry each other, but not same sex couples!
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September 28th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
New Zealand needs an upper house too.
Checks and balances and all that.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
2-Nil to common sense in Australia.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
NZers like to mock Tasmania. We pretend we’re better even though we’re poorer than Tasmanians.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Also, I think DPF is wrong about siblings being able to marry. I know he’s probably making a joke, but it’s hard to separate the truth from lies with same-sex marriage propaganda.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Sorry DPF, I reckon I’m Kiwi through and through, but I don’t reckon it’s safe for Kiwis to hassle Tasmanians too much. Do mainland Aussies really think of us as that different?
Cheers,
Vote:Mike
September 28th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Of course siblings can marry – they just can’t marry each other. Just like “gays” can marry provided they choose an opposite sex partner to marry.
Same sex “marriage” and the arguments for it are so bogus, it is a wonder that even opining it as a possibility doesn’t result in out and out mirth.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Apparently support for changing the definition of marriage is declining in New Zealand. We need a referendum on this important issue.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
No bbd the above posters are obsessed by the subject We are just waiting for fletch and LM to complete the fundie club meeting
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
I predict an MP will move an SOP to put it to a referendum, they’ll be a huge audible sigh of relief in our Parliament, and they’ll all kick for touch, pushing it off as a Q. in the 2014 election ballot.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
” … support for changing the definition of marriage is declining in N.Z. … ” If so, I can still hope that Kiwis haven’t tossed all good sense and perspective out the door and can see the hysterical activism for what it is. And no ,I don’t hate homosexuals at all; I just see their getting married as ludicrous. If the term “civil union” doesn’t suit them, let them find any other that does not include the word ” marriage.” Language still means something to me.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
Check out the Gay Marriage Map. Basically, “NO….NO…..NO….NO….NO…” when will the Rainbow twittering class get it?
http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/gay-marriage-map
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
“Apparently support for changing the definition of marriage is declining in New Zealand. We need a referendum on this important issue.”
That would be a new definition of fiddling while rome burns…
And stop suggesting upper houses etc. More politicians is not the answer to any of our problems – they’ve created 99% of them.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
“NZers like to mock Tasmania…”
Yep- New Zealanders are so smug yet are going to be the laughing stock of the South Pacific once the fantastic new ‘Constitution’ is drafted and President Hone takes his rightful place…
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
As an aside- I spent a bit of time in Tasmania and loved it. I’d recommend spending a day at Port Arthur to anyone and they brew some great beers round those parts…
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Hey Kevin,the upper house needn’t be made up of pollies.
To create a balance to counter the make up of the lower house there could be appointments of a selection of people who are sane,honest ,working,and heterosexual.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
How about a minor mobile dwelling instead?
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Sine when did “marriage”only refer to a Man and a Woman….?
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
How amusing to see such sarc from a devoted supporter of democracy no matter what the cost, when a democratically elected parliament takes a democratic vote and tells him to bugger off.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Kowtow like judges? Those frigid unelected,representatives have been more politically active over many decades than our hapless incompetent pollies. I wouldn’t trust “unelected representatives” any more than elected ones. Just look at the thousands,of unelected Maoris thru all our institutions.
Just look at our history it’s the best guide. What long knives said – we’re already a laughing stock throughout Asia for our weak justice system – caused by our judiciary being political activists.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Let’s just be honest with ourselves. The “gay” Emperor has no clothes. Deep down inside we all know that marriage is between a man and a woman. 50 years ago you would be committed to an asylum to suggest otherwise. 20 years ago you would be laughed out of town and 10 years ago you would have been regarded as a Green party supporter. Isn’t progress great. Having been cowed into reluctantant submission by the great “gay” clobbering machine we now feel we have to accept a complete aberration of commonsense and decency; 2 men or 2 women pretending to marry each other. Let’s be brutally honest. We all know it’s a joke but no one wants to risk the public ridicule of the “gay” emperors courtiers by stating the obvious.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Basically reg, but the horse has bolted because all people,have to do,is,go to countries where gay marriage is legal.
That’s why I say fall back to a line the can be defended. Like never,ever accepting the anti smacking legislation – that’s winnable because parents can’t really take their kids overseas just to smack them.
Although the thought has occurred to my wife and,I that there,could,be good money to be made,in smacking tourism where parents could save up their smacking and we could run tours to normal countries or beyond the 200 km limit where smacking isn’t illegal.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Farrar obsessing over gay marriage again.
Vote:You’re single David – why don’t you try it? You go on about it enough, then you wouldn’t have to fantasize so much.
September 28th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
DTK that’s below the belt even by my low standards you tosser.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Tasmanian’s should get with it, respect their heritage and worry more about marrying folks who fit in with their culture.
http://pages.infinit.net/garrick/chinese/sheep.html
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
It got me thinking though – its rally the mms media who is yet again guiding public opinion and,keeping this issue,going. Makes me wonder what national is trying to sneak through parliament.
Perhaps they will try to legalise cross species,marriage to sneak,past the racist constitution.
Vote:September 28th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Johnboy
…”Sheep people are very romantic sensitive, sweet and darling”……
For the rest of my life I’ll treasure these words.
Vote:September 29th, 2012 at 8:39 am
It’s only been legal for men to have sex with each other in Tasmania since the early ’90s. Would be weird if they were the first Aussie state to redefine marriage.
Vote:September 29th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Tasmanian Devils are leaving in droves.
Vote:September 29th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Reg, your comment at 7.14 28/9 .. “Let’s just be honest with ourselves. The “gay” Emperor has no clothes.”
Vote:So good!! I should have written it myself. I hope you don’t mind if I steal it for future use elsewhere.
September 30th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Happily, however, South Australia is still heading onward, according to its Social Inclusion Minister Ian Hunter, who intends to get married in Spain before the end of this year. And commendably, the Liberal/National Coalition New South Wales state Premier has given his state Liberal MPs a free conscience vote on the matter…unlike, it must be noted, federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and Victorian Premier Baillieu. Ah, a race. Let’s hope we get there first and pip them at the post!
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