Teachers brainwashing their kids to be pawns
September 20th, 2012 at 4:42 pm by David FarrarThis video Whale has done from last night’s news is disturbing.
I’m all for kids getting informed about political issues, but it is obviously the teachers here are just using their kids as weapons. I bet you none of them sat down with their classes and explained the pros and cons of schools having to close or merge because of earthquake damage and/or 3,500 fewer students.
Whale notes:
As the footage shows, teachers were showing kids how to chant, raise their fists in the air, and most worryingly, it even included an 8 year old attacking the Prime Minister. An 8 year old!
One wonders whether any dissent is tolerated by teachers at these schools and how a child who disagreed might get treated. Do you think they had any choice?
Quite sickening really.
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September 20th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
I have a regular customer who is a teacher at one of the schools.
The children have not once been mentioned in any discussion (daily) about the proposed closures/amalgamations.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Yep. Saw them. A rather disturbing familiarity with the language of the Barricades. Quite ‘Les Mis’ . Teachers unfortunately don’t know what is wrong with this.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
What a crock. Fair enough their right to protest but why involve the children? Fuckwits.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
How dare the gummint close the schools! They can just print more money cant they! Cant they borrow a few milllion more? Your readers grandchildren won’t mind taking a second job to pay for it. Think of the children.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
I agree that adults must be very careful about corralling kids to use in the adults battles, but kids do have a right to express a view.
Vote:If there’s one thing these kids surely must know and have a right to express, is their preference for where they will spend half of their learning lives.
Teachers always infuse their cultural agendas into their teaching. It’s one reason teaching fails to become a profession. But the fact that most of us come out with opinions different to our teachers makes my other point: kids are far more discerning and capable than most conservatives credit them.
Let them protest – it is likely to matter to them – and it will teach them that you don’t just have to take what the establishment dishes out. In my view, that’s a good thing.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
So we don’t like it when it comes to opposing a National gummint’s programme.
But it’s been going on for years over “bi culturalism” and any number of other isms.And we give them a free pass.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Whilst I agree the teachers are shockers however so is the Govt’s political management as usual they are hopeless. Surely you would run this one up the flag pole a month before saying you are carrying out a review and give the reasons clearly.
Furthermore reiterate the reasons at the full public release 4500 empty desks prior to the quakes another 4500 after plus the associated taxpayer costs then get out into the media big time to explain. Clearly they didn’t learn a thing from the class room size fiasco
Cheers
Colin
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
If education was delivered like most other services by the private sector none of this would be needed. Schools in the wrong geogrpahy or not providing the appropriate services to their users (who are parents and pupils NOT teachers) would simply not be in business.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Definitely worth bookmarking for a reference the next time some scum socialist teacher wants to deny the fact that they brainwash the kids entrusted to them.
And a reminder, if one was ever needed, of the importance of breaking the stranglehold of the teachers’ unions.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
If there’s one thing these kids surely must know and have a right to express, is their preference for where they will spend half of their learning lives.
mark they have a childish opinion about that issue based on their emotion. Their minds aren’t capable of reasoning at that age, even if they were supplied with ALL the FACTS, which they evidently weren’t. What about this, doesn’t any adult understand. The attitude that some lefties have whereby children should be treated as little adults with all the rights that accrue therefrom is actually IMO, exceedingly cruel. For what such an attitude does is abrogate a kid’s right to be a kid and just not worry about all that adult stuff but simply operate on auto-pilot completely oblivious to all that adult shit that only gradually comes into one’s conciousness as one proceeds into puberty.
This particular episode is even worse, since what it illustrates that some teachers are so profoundly fucked in the head that they truly believe that the cause is all powerful, all true and all just and that anyone who doesn’t agwee really isn’t a nice person at all, which is completely mental, isn’t it.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Reid,
fully agree.
Vote:Treating children like little adults is cruel, whether it’s the teachers or their parents doing it.
It just sets them up for failure later on in life.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Typical Socialists brainwashing poor innocent children. Its child abuse mental child abuse and the problem is the soft cock government we have wont lift a finger to stop it.
Vote:Fact is people have left CCH. School rolls have fallen as a result. So the Socialists want to see near empty class rooms (well actually yes they do as its much easier teaching a couple of kids rather than a room full)
Thats the real reason the teachers are protesting. They cant handle teaching a full class.
September 20th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Yes because it’s inconceivable that any of these children could of their own volition form a view that they don’t want their school closing so that they are forced to go elsewhere. It must be those EVIL TEACHER UNIONS BRAINWASHING THEM YET AGAIN!!!!!
EVIL, EVIL, EVIL TEACHER UNIONS!!!
Keep drinking the Kool Ade, peeps. And remember, a vote for Labour is a vote for compulsory unionism and compulsory gay marriage for all workers
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RRM, unfortunately for your post THERE’S A VIDEO ABOVE THAT COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DISPROVES EVERY SINGLE THING YOU JUST SAID.
Der.
I mean one understands you’re a lefty therefore blinded by the cause in whose sacred name every single thing one does is just and true, but really, what the fuck’s happened to your mind, RRM. I thought you lefties were against slavery. Iss it that it’s OK, if it’s for the cause?
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RRM
The idea of compulsory gay marriage for teachers shouldn’t ruffle many feathers…..the women look like blokes & the blokes are all queer.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Are you sure the media didn’t organise it? When my sister was in primary school in the,60s the herald came and organised a similar type protest.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Slavery
Der…
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
the women look like blokes
Not when I was a kid nasska, not all of them anyway. You didn’t go to boarding school did you?
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Is this purely an example of how shallow, narrow minded, selfish, head in the sky and selfcentred teachers can be or is it a reflection of just how low Liebour devotees/lunatics will sink to create an attack on National out of nothing? Or is it both. I’m going with the latter. The teachers involved with this fiasco should be struck-off immediately. The maori’s may exploit their off spring on a Hiko or two but “generally” the kids are with the extended family. This is teachers indoctrinating children straight out of “the crazy muslims handbook”.
We all saw the recent figures on this countries education spend verses the rest of the world and, I think, a lot of people went – “wow!”. One of the stat’s which caught my eye was the average class size which was around 22 from memory. The average class size in Auckland, and most major centres, would be 30 – 35. Conclusion – there are an awful lot of schools having a lend which need to be reviewed immediately. Get ready for more whinging, bleating teachers.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
DPF “This video Whale has done from last night’s news is disturbing.”
Oh spare the faux outrage! This clip from Whale – no doubt edited to show all the “worst” bits – shows a few kids making signs, handprints and writing “save our Schools” with chalk on the footpath. The horror of it all !!!
If parents were worried that their children were being “brainwashed” from teachers and being used as “pawns”, no doubt it would be reported on and the item would be up on this site in a flash.
Vote:Hasn’t happened, so it seems parents aren’t bothered. Oh and you seriously underestimate the ability for kids that age to think for themselves and form their own opinions.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Are the parents of the children up in arms? I’ve heard nothing from them. These kids go to schools that they enjoy learning in.
Bloggers in the North Island have no idea
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Reid
Yes, I’m a boarding school survivor….it has always reinforced my theory that what doesn’t actually kill you makes you stronger.
In those enlightened times we were essentially inmates for the full school term…..you might get a leave pass for an appendicitis operation or parental death but that was about it. I do remember that there was a twenty something woman who worked in the kitchens…..she had not a bad figure but unfortunately her lift didn’t go to the top floor yet after thirteen weeks lock up she rivaled Sophia Loren in latent sex appeal.
The teachers are better forgotten!
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Crikey is that? I was expecting balaclava clad ninjas swinging an assortment of weapons, whaleoil is a joke.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Maybe if the Principals Federation had their taxpayer funded annual conference in NZ and not Melbourne there might be a bit more sympathy. Who knows could have been good for the local hosts economy.
Vote:In fact why the fuck do they need an annual conference, I seem to have managed 25 years in various jobs in successful industries without one but then I have never worked in an industry that’s spends 50% of its time bitching and moaning.
September 20th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
It’s because the teachers have dared to challenge,their “precious”
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Yeah so am I nasska. I must say the quality of my boyhood fantasies dropped when I entered the hallowed halls. House Matrons didn’t really cut the same figure as the Standard 4 teachers.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Reid
I reckon the buggers must have known something. When I think about it ‘ugly’ & ‘reptilian’ don’t really do justice to my recollections of our House Matrons.
Since I was enrolled in an agricultural college maybe they thought that the sheep were enough of a temptation.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
I actually think bloggers using the situation in Christchurch to have, from what I can see just another juvenile dig at teachers is quite frankly “disgusting” unless you are living in and raising children in the extremely stressful environment that Christchurch still is you could try showing a bit more maturity and attempt to at least understand why the parents,teachers and children alike are so angry.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
‘Inky_the_Red (624) Says:
September 20th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Are the parents of the children up in arms? I’ve heard nothing from them. These kids go to schools that they enjoy learning in.
Bloggers in the North Island have no idea’
Some of the parents are up in arms but not about the kids having their say.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
seabreezeent
Bear in mind that the genesis of this disgraceful example of the way “professional” pedagogues warp our childrens’ thinking lies in the Government (aka the taxpayers) planning for the future needs of Christchurch. So what if there are fewer schools…..so long as there are classrooms available within reasonable distance the bricks & mortar part of the educational needs of the kids are being met.
All that is missing is a reasonable response from the socialist mind washers who masquerade as teachers.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
and a “reasonable response” from those that know nothing of the situation.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
nasska
Get off your hobby horse. ‘So what if there are fewer schools…..so long as there are classrooms available within reasonable distance the bricks & mortar part of the educational needs of the kids are being met.’
Let the parents have a say in ‘reasonable distance’ and so on. You’re on here too much, most parents are very interested in which school their kids attend, in which areas and so on, as they have the right to be.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Nostalgia-NZ
The parents may have a right to a say in where their kids are educated. The kids should be doing what they are bloody well told & the teachers should reflect on the fact that they are employees…..their right is the one to go & do something else if conditions are not to their liking.
Sorted!
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Told by who? If the parents are objecting to this I’m yet to hear.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Me too…..maybe they don’t make as much noise as the pedants.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Maybe they only use sign language.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
seabreezeent & Inky – Agree. You pretty much expect this rubbish from whaleoil (he loves to make his doggies bark on cue) but I thought DPF was a bit more rational.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
I am only new in here, seems my expectations were a bit high, lol
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
And I noticed a Chch councilor on air ranting on just like the kids. Perhaps its time the Govt. told CHCH City Council to sell some of its assets, even all of them, to pay for their own repairs instead of us deep pocketed taxpayers from the rest of the country fronting on their behalf.
Same deal for schools. I don’t give a ff where the kids go to school as long as they go and the Govt. does it in an efficient manner(which of course will always be an oxymoron),
Schools on this area have been over crowded forever with kids from miles out of town whilst these precious little petals have a school of 38 on the perifery of a city.
4000 empty desks and related facitlities BEFORE the earthquake and another 4500 since.
Probably the only reason their schooling wasn’t interupted even more.
Poor precious little petals.
Vote:Cry us a river.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
seabreezeent & Inky – Agree. You pretty much expect this rubbish from whaleoil (he loves to make his doggies bark on cue) but I thought DPF was a bit more rational.
All three of you: how about stopping the pretence. The issue isn’t that it happened, for there are good reasons for it as enunciated by Parata. The issue is the lack of pre-wiring (i.e. pre-communicating the rationale amongst affected parties), which was once again a Parata fail. Big deal. Quelle horreur. And is anyone surprised?
The execrable thing is, you lefties are all, as you always do, pretending that the former IS the issue which is at best disingenuous and at worst, incredibly evil. Particularly in the way you lefties have played on the innocence of children and warped and twisted their minds to suit your own vested interests. Once again, lefties prove by their very actions, they are in fact, the worst people in the world, by far.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Abysmal stuff.
Vote:You expect to see children being used and brainwashed in a madrassa – not in a fricken state school, FFS.
Schools are for learning about *facts*. The teaching of English, maths and science. They are *not* for the manipulation of children so that the teachers get their jollies.
September 20th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
over 85% of teachers at primary level are women. I doubt women would influence children to this degree. Men know this wouldn’t happen thru their own experiences of the fairer sex.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Talk about double standards – You Neolibs and Torries thought having children in the anti smacking debate was fine, but as soon as they want to save their schools the angle changes.
It is natural for students, teachers, principals, boards and communities to want to save schools.
So let me get this right (excuse the pun) – schools are bad, but beating your kids is OK.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Reid @ 8.08pm
Wow, and I thought redbaiter was the king mad conspiracy theorist here. He has a challenger for the crown!
Yes Reid, you’ve caught us “lefties” out with our “incredibly evil” plan (I’ve heard that you have to humour the crazy ones).
Oh, I’m not sure what this evil lefties organisation is, but I do know that I’m not a member of it. I’m not on the mailing list as I don’t get the weekly newsletter, and I’ve never been invited to any of the secret meetings where all the evil plans get made up.
Vote:Could it be that I’m non-partisan and prefer to think for myself, rather than Whaleoil and DPF do it for me?
September 20th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Very very disturbing. As if Maori and beneficiary bashing wasn’t enough, now you guys pick on earthquake stricken children.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
I doubt women would influence children to this degree.
They wouldn’t do it knowingly and they’d be horrified if they realised what they did. For women are designed to nurture and not to destroy and destruction goes against their human nature, as opposed to men who are designed to destroy, how can you be a successful hunter and provide for your family if you can’t fight and win?
However feminism has for decades taught women they must ignore their natural instincts because such originate from the oppressive patriarchy (as opposed to DNA which is where it really comes from) and the clever but evil feminists have psychologically tied this to the natural human instinct to be free. Such conflation has resulted in what we see around us, lots of childless women, lots of single mothers, lots of young girls who act like boys and have casual sex, all because the evil feminists teach them continually that in order to be fwee, you must thwow off your shackles and act like men, otherwise you’re nothing more than barefoot and in the kitchen serving your hated male oppressor.
And because women have lost touch with their own being, we see this kind of shit, which anyone with a mind can see is destructive, but because these women have been inculcated with feminist propaganda for decades and decades and decades, they no longer see anything except feminist propaganda, which is what most – 90% – of leftist thinking is all about, for political correctness is feminist-inspired as well. And that’s why lovely, caring people don’t even see what they’re doing to those young people, because they’ve over the years, been taught consciously and more importantly subconsciously, that the feminist cause = the lefty cause = human wights, and goodness, and fweedom, and everything good.
The tell for a feminist-infected lefty and almost all of them are, is the evil invective that spews from their mouth the minute they’re challenged. They’re incapable of thinking outside the narrow confines of their own infected reality, and that’s just where feminists want them to be.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Alex Burling looked like a younger Chris Hipkins. Same amount of misguided hopeless venom.
Vote:Carter Grigg will end up a Tory when he grows up. He’s too cute for the Labour Party and has obviously had his teeth removed by dangerous decile 1 kids down the road.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
Reid @ 8.49pm
Superb! An absolute awesome example of tinfoil hat wearing, reds under the bed, madness.
Vote:Move over redbaiter, we have a new champion.
The king is dead, long live the king!
September 20th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
‘I bet you none of them sat down with their classes and explained the pros and cons of schools having to close or merge because of earthquake damage and/or 3,500 fewer students.’
And the schools that have not had a falling roll or suffered damage, why are they closing? Like Ouruhai School (as featured in the clip above) or Philipstown school or Ferndale which is a special needs school.
It is clear the government has taken the opportunity of the earthquakes to make wider changes to CHCH schools than are necessary due to damage and population movement.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Inky the Red at 6.21 posed an interesting question;
Vote:“Are the parents up in arms about this?”
Caring parents are not up in arms about this.
That is because caring parents know that the low lives of the teachers’ unions will make the children of parents who object, an absolute misery. For that is the sort of person modern day teachers are; a despicable species of mankind.
When our youngest child left school I was elated. Now I can express my opinions upon the teaching fraternity (profession is a misused word) freely, with the knowledge that the bastards could not get at my darlings.
No, my darlings were not dumb bitches; one is doing post graduate study towards her B.Sc. degree in geological sciences and the other is using her B.A. to the max in Spain. And they both know that if ever the shit hits the fan, Dad will always be there to help them out.
Fifty years ago when I was at school, teachers were a respected group of people. I recall my father coming home from the pub and he said he had shouted for the teachers, because he knew what a wonderful job they did. I am not a mean bastard, but I never had the opportunity to say the same thing to my children.
September 20th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Its great to see the left sticking to its principles isn’t it. So exploitation of children = OK . Getting a job, making soundly based decisions for the benefit of the country, rather than a few = shit no!!!! Christ, if you close economically marginal schools you might be able to pay more money for good teachers. Yes, we need to do that on a pay for performance basis.
You can see why Hulun was so keen to create that free trade agreement with China – the home of child labour and the champion of personal freedom.
Anyone who doesn’t have a problem with taking a young impressionable mind and feeding it with lies, hate and mis information needs to have a really good look at themselves. True marxism i hoped was dead and buried in NZ. Child abuse disguised as “education”. Wake up!!!!
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
“Are the parents up in arms about this?”
Of course they f&*ken are: http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7692617/Ouruhia-School-calls-urgent-meeting
Stop getting all your ‘news’ from Kiwiblog and Whaleoil, there is a real world of actual people out there!
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Unfortunately I work for a living.. Do not have time to peruse the above replies..
It is the TEACHERS TUITION THAT IS THE PROBLEM…
FFS… They are only doing what is being taught to them..
Replace the entire Teaching of TEACHERS..
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
START AT THE BEGINNING !!!..
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Tauhei Notts
Well said…..the teachers’ likely treatment of the children of parents seen as “non compliant” is something that hasn’t come up during recent debate yet so doubtlessly true.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
I WANT MY CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN TO BE EDUCATED INTO A QUESTIONING SOCIATY..
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I WANT MY CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN TO BE TAUGHT BY THE BEST IN THE LAND..
I WANT MY CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN TO RECEIVE KNOWLEDGE KNOWN ONLY TO ME .. TO BE PAST ON..
BY ME..
I WANT EVERY ONE IN THE WORLD TO UNDERSTAND AND RECEIVE THE LOVE OF MY MOTHER FOR ME..
I WANT TO KNOW THAT ALL PEOPLE WILL STAND UP !!…
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Strangely parents are up in arms about the school closures. It is not surprising parents seem happy with their choice of schools (for the children they care for) and are not happy they are closing (or being proposed to merge with a school on the other side of the city).
Yes School roles in parts of Canterbury are down and in other parts up. I’m not sure where the 3500 overall decline comes from. It seems that the Ministry is comparing the June enrolment of 2010 with the March figure of 2012. June figures are always higher than March (I had a job once that used school roll numbers and could understand how the March figures were always 5% lower than June).
Some bright spark in the Ministry came up with the brilliant plan to merge Burwood and Windsor primary schools. Both are year 1-6 and have roles over 500. On top of the merge they are being extended to year 1-8. The resulting school will be about 1300 students. The Windsor site is about 6 acres (the standard size of an urban primary school) So there will be 40-50 class rooms on 2.4 Hectares.
Christchurch new subdivision being built and house rebuilt on green zone land where houses have been destroyed. No one knows where the children of Christchurch will live in 5 years time. So why not consult the parents and see what they think? It would be daft to close a school next year and have to build a new school less than a km away in 6 years when people move back to the area.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
YES we did and others
Sorry my question should have been clearer. “Are the parents up in arms about their children protesting to keep their schools?”
The answer is clearer not. So why are bloggers in the North Island telling parents in Chch how to raise their kids?
Vote:Clearly the nanny bloggers don’t think that parents can make their own decisions.
September 20th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
@adam2314
I want my children to understand how the Caps-Lock key works.
Vote:September 20th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Lefties are scary people – its always their way or the highway, and, apparently, anything is justified by the “cause” (is there anything they wouldn’t do?). Obviously they like to train up the new converts earlier and earlier.
A major earthquake has hit the city, there are 3000+ students who have moved on, people are still living in wrecked homes, and they don’t want anything to change ie no school closures and no mergers (well they have got a new cardboard cathedral – focusing on the important things). And of course, and especially, they expect the North Island bloggers, etc., to just keep paying for it. Other peoples money – the never ending money tree.
Hey, a bit of QE and everything will be fine – it worked for Greece.
Vote:September 21st, 2012 at 1:48 am
Let’s see. Apparently I:
- am a “scum socialist”
- “can’t handle teaching a full class”
- am “queer”
- am “whinging and bleating”
- am a “socialist mind washer”
- am a “despicable species of mankind”
I’ve never been more glad to be overseas. A private university, 5 months paid holiday, students who want to learn, fewer hours, no crappy waffly curriculum to navigate for a few years until it gets changed again to minimise knowledge and maximise touchy-feely “values”, am actually trusted to design a valid, robust course of my own, with all materials and assessments self-produced, am evaluated by the students to ensure that this happens, and better yet, don’t live in a society where I mention that I teach, and suddenly I’m something approaching the devil. Yes, it is “only” ESL (with business and media studies on the side), but my God it is a rewarding gig.
Personally, with attitudes like the ones displayed in this thread, I’m in no rush to come back. Those who demonise the entire teaching profession and that percentage of teachers who are obsessed with social engineering deserve each other; unfortunately, the students are the ones that will lose out in this battle.
Vote:September 21st, 2012 at 6:17 am
1) If you have a disaster and lots of buildings get damaged and people move – you probably need to change things a bit.
2) if you move schools the kids and teachers will be automatically against it no matter how well you communicate it.
It is an inevitable fight…
It is like the christchurch cathedral.. give everyone a chance to figure out a better plan and present it, and if they fail… just do it no matter how much they complain.
Vote:September 21st, 2012 at 6:47 am
Check out the interview between Sean Plunket and Lyn Bates, the BoT Chair of the school involved. Go through to the 1:35 mark, and Plunket absolutely skewers her.
Vote:
September 21st, 2012 at 7:12 am
The best article written about CHCH is one written recently by REV Mike Colman..”Everything has been done to us.”.No consultation about ANYTHING. Parata is an insensitive , idiot. Mike’s article covers major areas but omits a recent announcement in the same vein..The recent announcement of a committee to oversee CHCh hospital redevelopment..Not a single Cantab voice on this committee.. Disgusting and Ryall is totally arrogant.
Vote:Another brilliant article was in response to the govt allowing a work of fiction re the earthquakes barely two years after the events..in which Martin Van Beynen refers to rent-a key and morning tea Gerry. Never a truer word spoken in jest.
September 21st, 2012 at 7:12 am
Adam it matters nothing to me what you want.
What you need is spelling lessons.
Vote:September 21st, 2012 at 7:54 am
These “teachers” are true child-molesters of the mind.
Vote:September 21st, 2012 at 8:39 am
Oh so they are just being taught how to protest eh? Well, teach them how their birthright of freedom of speech is being attacked right now. Get them to draw pictures of Muhammed.
Vote:September 21st, 2012 at 8:56 am
I can’t see the video for some reason however…
We want kids to grow up to be resillient. That means being able to get over the things they cannot change and to work at things they can change.
They’ve had plenty of education about the things they cannot change – earthquakes killing people they know or know of, destroying or damaging their homes and losing people they care about to immigration.
Here is someting that they have an opportunity to work for change – we should be praising them for their resillience and drive after such a terrible tragedy.
Vote:September 21st, 2012 at 9:31 am
I guess it had to happen…. With student unions now being voluntary it’s probably critical for the survival of socialism that teachers and unionists start even earlier than uni.
Vote:September 21st, 2012 at 10:29 am
Christchurch has a unique opportunity to create a very modern education system, but changing schools touches an area central to the continuity and certainty people need. With this sort of deep psychology going on, the Government would have done better by starting open discussion about the need for school changes at least a year ago – then it would respond to public need, rather than driving it. I discuss this further in my blog yesterday: http://markblackham.tumblr.com/post/31913569939/chch-schools-a-meta-issue
Reid, et al: I guess I do advocate treating children as little adults, just as I regard adults as big kids. Evidence aplenty for the latter here in these comment sections. You claim that children are driven by emotion, and adults aren’t. Think about that again. All modern research points to emotion being the core driver of all of us, with rationality and pattern-seeking coming up second.
When we are children most of us are more interested in scientifically evaluating the world – seeking patterns, establishing hypothesis, than we are as adults, when we settle into our respective ways of viewing the world.
Again, many of the comments here signal established patterns of perception that you are less likely to express when younger.
My point is simply that as adults we should not use ANY of our preconceptions to restrain the world of younger people. I don’t mean forcing adult worries on them (which is unfortunately inevitable), but giving them the freedom to experience and manipulate the world as far as their capability takes them.
Which is why the protest is as legitimate for them to participate and experience as any adult.
Vote:September 22nd, 2012 at 2:44 am
transmogrifier – sounds to me that you’re in a private school – so essentially immune to the silly buggers in NZ schools. ESL is a noble profession but light years away from the socialist dumbfuckery we have in Kiwi schools.
These actions to fix the system in Chch are necessary. FFS we have a smaller population there and what is better, big new schools or small smattering of schools in dodgy areas? If it was up to me I’d force them all to be charter schools and force all the “good rich schools” in Auckland to have secondary campuses in the poorest areas in Chch and teach them all properly. Unions can go fuck off to a country that unionism increases GDP… ha ha ha.
Vote:September 22nd, 2012 at 9:38 am
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/editorials/7715291/Schools-shake-up-news-fills-Press-mail-boxes
“The mail boxes and email inboxes at The Press have been unusually full in the last week and a half. The Ministry of Education’s and minister Hekia Parata’s proposed changes to the landscape of Canterbury schools has motivated people to write to us in numbers not seen on any issue since the earthquakes”
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