The new Herald site

September 10th, 2012 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

Overall I like the new website. The spacing and font is easier to read. Better use of graphics.

I was going to complain they removed the politics section from their front page, but it has now re-appeared which is good.

Handy social media links at the bottom of the page, and I like the inclusion of their latest tweets in a sidebox. They could get really daring and show the latest tweets from all Herald staff as they tend to be more fruity than the official ones.

Picked up a print edition this morning. Certainly prefer the tabloid format as it is much easier to read on the bus. A good front page lead by Audrey Young on the Bain case.  The magazine insert focus on Lisa Carrington and Sarah Walker was smart – bound to get people reading. Resisted temptation to read the food insert and threw it out. The business liftout was well done with a story speculating the NZ$ will make 90c against the US. Not quire sure why the puzzles and sudoku is in the business liftout though!

In the main paper, I thought the David Fisher article focusing on the Judge whose sentences were so lenient even some of the criminals said they got off too lightly was nice and edgy. They must have gone out and worked quite hard to get those quotes.

So overall looks a good improvement for both print and online. However too early to judge substantively. In the end content is king for me, so maybe at the end of three months will have a look back and review.

What do people think of both the revised website and the new print edition?

 

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30 Responses to “The new Herald site”

  1. Barnsley Bill (928 comments) says:

    My thoughts.
    Online…
    SMH lite
    Spread the site wider, I paid for a wide screen.
    The bold headlines have poor definition, perhaps a different font.

    Print edition
    The print editions I have encountered today were all folded poorly, may have been a batch that were monged but I checked the BP in Kerikeri after reading a poorly folded one at the cafe and then have checked again at the Caltex in Whangerai and New World at East Ridge. They all had the same problem.
    The print quality was poor as well.
    Content.
    A David Bain dog whistle that will not endear them to many. Great headline grabber though. Lets see if they can follow it up through the week with a few more stories most of us have not already read elsewhere.
    However, being able to read the daily paper at the smokers table in the morning is a massive plus. The quality and content has been so dire that investing the effort required to wrangle a broadsheet at an outside table has been too much for me to bother with.

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  2. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Limited potential for fish and chips now so they should continue with the next phase in this roll-out to perforate it in 4 inch strips to make it useful.

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  3. Manolo (12,612 comments) says:

    Do you need to be that scatological, davinci?

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  4. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Cripes Manolo. I had to look that up! :) I must have missed Andrei using that in the great same sex marriage “debate”.

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  5. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    Been better if the “politics” section had stayed missing.

    Who needs that overwhelmingly NYT style liberal/ progressive crap??

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  6. Barnsley Bill (928 comments) says:

    Da Vinci gold.
    Which reminds me.
    I got in touch with my inner self at the weekend.
    I will never buy home brand toilet paper again.

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  7. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    “Do you need to be that scatological, davinci?”

    Its an integral part of his OCD.

    “However, being able to read the daily paper at the smokers table in the morning is a massive plus.”

    For you I’d believe it. Being a compulsive reader of crap like the Herald is the main reason you haven’t ever got a political clue to save yourself.

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  8. Manolo (12,612 comments) says:

    You’ll be pleasantly surprised by the breadth of this simpleton’s lexicon, davinci.
    We’ll have a single malt or two one of these days to discuss politics. :-)

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  9. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    Careful there Manolo, I think he fancies you more than he fancies me.

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  10. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    “What do people think of both the revised website and the new print edition?”

    To use a phrase that’s getting a bit over-used these days, its deck chairs on the Titanic.

    Its the content that is the problem with the Herald, much more so than the presentation.

    Its pushing a tired old political model down people’s throats that they just do not want anymore.

    FOX news and/or The Australian are working OK.

    THE NZ Herald should model itself on these examples rather than the fast fading and derelict liberal/ progressive NYT.

    But what can you expect when the idiot editor (yes the EDITOR FFS) makes statements containing such bad English as this?…

    “The reason why we’ve gone compact [he said] is to make it much more easier and convenient for readers…”

    See http://pc.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/the-herald-goes-tabloid.html

    Obviously, he’s had the benefit of a good socialist inspired university education. How then would he ever have a clue about running a business or a newspaper?

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  11. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Remedial comprehension test.

    Question 1

    Consider the following two statements.

    Statement 1

    Been better if the “politics” section had stayed missing.

    Statement 2

    Being a compulsive reader of crap like the Herald is the main reason you haven’t ever got a political clue to save yourself.

    (A) What are the prospects that the same person person made those two statements.

    (B) If your answer to Part (A) was in the affirmative,

    (i) Can this be explained by:

    an inadvertant contradiction by a pointless bag of wind ; or

    excessive self-medication?

    (ii) What are the chances that Russell Fletcher, retired toll-buster of Tauranga, said it whilst contemplating how lonely he is?

    (B) [Aside font: you can tell this question is leading in only one direction can't you!] If your reply to part (A)(ii) was in the affirmative, should Russell be banned from keeping pets?

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  12. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    B Bill

    Never go budget when caring for the nether regions. It can make it very difficult to appear nonchalant and care-free when walking down the road.

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  13. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    DVM, you’ve never had a clue about truth.

    Anyone with a conscience might worry about such a compulsion to lie, but obviously not you.

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  14. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Its the content that is the problem with the Herald, much more so than the presentation.

    Its pushing a tired old political model down people’s throats that they just do not want anymore.

    Thanks for the effort Reddie, but fortunately we all realised that some time ago as well. Time check: it’s 10th September 2012. You might want to write that down somewhere – maybe on the back of your hand (same side as your watch would be possibly serve as a more regular reminder). But don’t forget to change it every day!! – LOL, the last thing we need is you coming back in 10 years telling us what happened today!!!

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  15. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    TheDavincimoron- “Thanks for the effort Reddie, but fortunately we all realised that some time ago as well.”

    I don’t think so.

    They certainly don’t realise it at the NZ Herald.

    Or TV One.

    Or TV3

    Or the Dominion Post.

    To name just a few media outlets.

    I think you’re as usual DVM, talking utter bullshit.

    BTW, what’s with the plural pronouns? Why do you need to pretend there’s a cheering crowd of like brain damaged lemmings following you around?

    A bit of insecurity there right?

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  16. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    what’s with the plural pronouns

    It’s been a regular topic/gripe on this site for yonks now old thing. I used the “we” because I just assumed that everyone else had the requiste comprehension skills to realise this (aside from yourself of course). You aren’t suggesting that everyone else is as stupid as you are you? :( In fact, this sentiment pre-dates, by a significant period, your self-imposed exile when you had your wee sook and disppeared to get your little whoar-clone blog up and limping heavily.

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  17. Manolo (12,612 comments) says:

    I shall endeavour to get davinci and Red around the table to enjoy a bottle of 18 Y.O. Glendfiddich.
    That will make everybody happy.

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  18. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    Thedavincimoron- “I just assumed that everyone else”

    How about you stop making irrational and self aggrandizing assumptions about everyone else and just speak for yourself?

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  19. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Irrational and self-aggrandising to assume that everyone else here isn’t as stupid as you are?

    OK, guilty.

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  20. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Manolo

    I’ll do lots of things for a free drink, but that isn’t one of them. I’m one of the people that Reddie has encountered for his entire life when he sidles up to people hoping to engage in conversation. I just melt away and then re-group with the others in another part of the room when he’s annoying another target market. We then look at each other and say stuff like: “Who the fuck is that tool?”

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  21. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    Even more irrational.

    If I’m so stupid why do you spend most of your time following me around and attempting to engage me?

    I think you might be just the kind of brain damaged urban Progressive the sad old neo-Marxist NZ Herald thinks it needs to appeal to.

    Which is where it makes its main mistake. You’re part of a social trend that is clearly on its last legs both socially and economically.

    There’s no profit in printing a newspaper designed to appeal to the dodo.

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  22. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Manolo
    No problems with them sharing the whisky
    But for smegs sake decant it into a plastic container first

    Remember dvm Red has up to almost 50 likes on whale oil
    This proves that he is at the cutting edge of political discussion
    I am not sure if the cutting is to my wrists due to his incessant whining or his throat just to shut up the incessant barstard progressive lefty cock bum poohs wees

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  23. Grant Michael McKenna (1,151 comments) says:

    Wait- there’s a print version of the Herald?

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  24. freemark (321 comments) says:

    Don’t like the new NZH online, looks like shit and dumbed down.. IMHO.
    What I’m finding more interesting is that the cartoon from Thursday, “In Hindsight” seemed to have been removed on Thursday, and still not there. just a little placemat. Is this just my machine, or was it censored very early on? Appreciate feedback on this.

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  25. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    The new print version is great. It suits modern life.

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  26. wtfunz (133 comments) says:

    Same crap – different format. Our business buys it and it takes 5 minutes to read completely. Important to keep an eye on the Labour crap being espoused through an editior who isn’t qualified to edit childrens books. If the idiot isn’t pushing the latest Greens idea or Liberal propoganda he’s creating his own news like the anti – alcohol band wagon. Under his guidance the Herald on Sunday had a whole page of letters/quotes from people “absolutely gutted” 18 year olds can still buy alcohol. He has no issue however with the fact 18 years is old enough to enlist and possibly die for our country. Obviously the Herald is all for our kids dying at 18 but totally against them drinking. Go figure.
    The regular contributors are personified by the likes of Matt McCarten. A complete moron. Is it true his claim to fame is going bankrupt having ripped of the New Zealand Tax payer – has to be directly from the Labour party hand book? A true commie – the last thing you pay are the taxes and then you try not to pay them at all. Fits in with Labour party supporters – half aren’t paying tax because they don’t work then add those who just don’t pay tax!!!

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  27. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    By far the best bit was having Lisa Carrington and Sara Walker on a glossy front cover. From the moment I picked it up I was breathless with anticipation, and uncontrolled rising interest. Someday I intend reading the article. . . .

    sorry Oscar.

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  28. tom hunter (3,998 comments) says:

    Muhahahahahaha …..

    Free-fall:

    Estimated print advertising revenues of $19.0 billion in 2012 will be the lowest annual amount spent on print newspaper advertising since the NAA started tracking ad revenue in 1950.

    That would be awful enough, but look at the graph for a true taste of terror (if you’re connected to these relics in any way); almost the entire collapse has been since 2001/2002 and it’s steep.

    Going “tabloid” in form is not going to save you. Bye bye fuckers!

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  29. Paulus (2,291 comments) says:

    As an oldie I wish that they would put the print size back.
    They have serupticially reduced the font size and made it more difficult to read – even with my best reading glasses.

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  30. googmama (1 comment) says:

    Asked our local shopkeeper – newspapers aren’t selling this week.
    Print size is a ‘fail’ – anyone still buying the print version of a newspaper is likely to need larger font, not smaller.
    Bye, bye Herald

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