A CTU porkie
October 25th, 2012 at 10:00 am by David FarrarIn the CTU submission on the Lobbying Disclosure Bill, they said:
This submission is made on behalf of the 37 unions affiliated to the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions Te Kauae Kaimahi (CTU). With some 350,000 members, the CTU is the largest democratic organisation in New Zealand.
There is a minor and a major porkie here. The minor porkie is that they have 37 members, not 350,000. They are a council of unions, not an organisation that members join directly. No member has the option of deciding whether or not the CTU gets a portion of their fee. Only the union as a whole decide swhether to join and pay.
But even putting aside that minor porkie, let’s say they do have 350,000 members. Does that make them the largest democratic organisation in NZ?
Not by a long way. The NZ Automobile Association has 1,329,572 members. Around four times as many.
So I hope the CTU will cease and desist making false claims.
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October 25th, 2012 at 10:02 am
I have this feeling I’ve seen this post twice before…
Vote:October 25th, 2012 at 10:03 am
And what counts as a “democratic” organisation anyway?
Vote:October 25th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Wow. Unbelievable. I bet if those reading the submission had known of this bald faced and blatant lie they would have taken the content completely differently. Who do the CTU think they are making such wild an unsubstantiated claims. This is fucking huge.
Vote:October 25th, 2012 at 10:24 am
I agree m@tt, it is huge – albeit far less huge than claimed by the CTU.
Select committee submissions are an integral part of our democratic process. Grossly misrepresenting who you are submitting on behalf of is (or should be) a major issue.
Vote:October 25th, 2012 at 10:39 am
m@tt uses scarcasm instead of having the balls to say what he/she really believes: that the end justifies the means, and that lying to a select committee is just fine. Welcome to the mind of the Left.
Vote:October 25th, 2012 at 11:47 am
DPF:
An oft used tactic of the left is to repeat a lie over and over in the faint hope that sooner or later enough gullible people will start to believe the (oft repeated) lie is somehow fact. Dear leader was very skilled in this regard.
Soon we’ll have the leftard MSM leading their bulletins with the revelation that ‘The largest democratic organisation in the Country has relayed the concerns felt by their 350,000 membership to a Select Committee in relation to the Lobbying Disclosure Bill before Parliament…’ And then it will somehow become ‘fact’ because someone heard it on the TV or the radio. Goebbels would be proud.
So no surprises that the CTU are stuck at the back of the field in the veracity stakes – some habits die hard…
Vote:October 25th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
An oft used tactic of the left is to repeat a lie over and over in the faint hope that sooner or later enough gullible people will start to believe the (oft repeated) lie is somehow fact.
The law is working as intended.
Vote:October 25th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Mind you at least hald of the SC would be lefties and the rest including the Nats leaning Left so WTF. They wouldnt care a toss. Liars lying to other liars.
Vote:October 25th, 2012 at 7:19 pm
I thought the AA was an autocracy.
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