Armstrong on Shearer

October 17th, 2012 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

writes in NZ Herald:

“Mr Speaker, why should God defend New Zealand?” shouted a man from the front row of the public gallery yesterday after Lockwood Smith’s recital of the parliamentary prayer.

He was quickly bundled away by security staff. But the visitor’s mention of the Almighty left a more pertinent question hanging in the air: “Will God defend ?”

Ouch.

Shearer’s mention of a supposedly incriminating videotape of John Key addressing GCSB staff has resulted in the Opposition leader turning wine into water.

His failure to produce any such tape has allowed Key to get off the hook and shift questions about credibility on to the Labour leader instead.

During a press conference, Shearer tried to sound forceful and decisive, saying it was the Opposition’s job to ask Key the hard questions.

But he was skewered by equally hard and persistent questioning about the tape.

Absolutely the opposition should hold the Government to account. But that does not mean you make wild allegations with no proof, and then make even wilder accusations about the tape may have been deleted.

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25 Responses to “Armstrong on Shearer”

  1. Brad (75 comments) says:

    Way to leave out some of the most important parts of Armstrong’s piece David, but I guess they wouldn’t have served your own agenda now would they?

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  2. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    It’s good to know the name of God is still being invoked in parliament but even real ministers are saying NZ is not Godzone any more

    Barry Reed is a good conservative example of such a minister. His sermon on teh Chch earthquake is enlightning listening

    The Christchurch NZ Earthquake. Where’s God? http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=22611525121

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  3. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Holding the government to account does not mean going on a fishing expedition.

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  4. BeaB (1,944 comments) says:

    I watched question time yesterday and find it hard to see why any reporters would see it as anything other than a complete rout by John Key who was in masterful form. Unless of course they are biased and that surely couldn’t be the case.

    TV3 for once gave the most accurate report. Shearer was truly pathetic and lame, over-shadowed by Winston and his own MPs baying and shouting – and then he failed to disconcert the PM in any way at all.

    Seeing him later being interviewed by Patrick Gower I was horrified at his shiftiness, twitching and stammering. I think he is actually ill, perhaps because of the pressure which he is obviously not up to and the lack of support from even his supporters.

    Poor bugger should retire and ask Helen for another cushy UN sinecure where he relax and restore his shattered nerves.

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  5. Pete George (21,796 comments) says:

    Shearer has made a mess of this, and has never looked comfortable in his attempt to play political hit man. He tried to retrieve the situation by no claiming all he is doing is asking quesations he thinks Key should answer, but that’s too late after he’s already made pointed accusatins at Key and GCSB.

    And what’s ridiculous about this is it’s over whether Key should be able to remember every quip he’s made or not, that, if he did, proves nothing we don’t already know.

    Noticably Grant Robertson has started to step up, posting Nothing to fear, nothing to hide on Red Alert, and fronting up to speak on Labour’s (Shearer’s) behalf on Firstline this morning.

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  6. David Garrett (5,120 comments) says:

    BeaB: You might be right, poor bastard. It is a brutal business which can take a hell of a toll….remember how Benson-Pope developed a tic, and then a twitch, and finally what looked like cerebal palsy whenever he was being “interviewed”?

    Yes, Redbaiter, I probably would have been reduced to a similarly pitiful state if I had chosen to stay and fight for the salary…

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  7. davidp (3,319 comments) says:

    I really have no idea why Labour and the Greens keep pushing this, weeks after the public have completely lost interest. KDC just isn’t a likable enough figure to gain sympathy.

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  8. Manolo (12,614 comments) says:

    Ah, Grant Robertson, the socialist leader in-waiting. That is, if Silent T allows it.

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  9. Longknives (4,039 comments) says:

    I enjoyed watching Shearer stutter and stammer through his interview on TV last night..

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  10. Elaycee (4,058 comments) says:

    But that does not mean you make wild allegations with no proof

    Its a pity that this operating procedure has not landed on the desk of the venal leader of Winston First.

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  11. kowtow (6,685 comments) says:

    So who was the idiot who shouted from the gallery?

    Parliament at the moment is enough of a circus already, without rent a prat turning up ,aided and abetted by our shallow ,useless MSM (I’m thinking fat Germans here)

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  12. Keeping Stock (9,787 comments) says:

    Annette King seems to be Shearer’s lone defender on this. On NewstalkZB this morning with Steven Joyce, she insisted that Labour doesn’t have to produce evidence; merely making allegations against the PM and the GCSB is enough. Sadly though, the burden of proof rests fairly and squarely with David Shearer on this. If he cannot substantiate his allegation that the GCSB destroyed video evidence he absolutely MUST withdraw the allegation, and apologise unreservedly to all who have been tainted by the pooh that he has been flinging.

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  13. ross69 (3,637 comments) says:

    Who had to correct their false answer to Parliament yesterday? None other than the PM. The same PM who knows that John Banks continues to lie to him but doesn’t have the balls to sack him.

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  14. Grizz (476 comments) says:

    It pisses me off that our parliament wastes time on a Finno-Kruat internet millionaire with a dubious background that packed a sad when he realised that his money could not buy politicians. Whether his arrest and incarceration was right or wrong, I actually do not give a shit. All this muck raking on who exactly said or knew what is just pointless. It will not make the country better. Parliament should concentrate on things that matter. From my point of view it is a total non-event.

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  15. Cunningham (746 comments) says:

    ross69 (926) so what’s your point? At least he admitted he made a mistake (quite openly). Remember Goof and the Israeli spy saga? That fuckwit hung Warren Tucker and the SIS out to dry because he couldn’t admit he was wrong. Oh shit that’s right the left are allowed to lie without any consequences. I forgot about that part of the the socialist code of conduct.

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  16. ross69 (3,637 comments) says:

    > Parliament should concentrate on things that matter

    So an incompetent PM doesn’t matter? It would be nice if John Key could confirm if a camera was set up to record his visit at the GCSB on February 29…not a difficult question I would’ve thought. But not one that I’d expect this PM to answer honestly.

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  17. Pete George (21,796 comments) says:

    Shearer is having another go today:

    2. DAVID SHEARER to the Prime Minister: Further to his answers to the first supplementary question to Oral Question No 1 on 26 September and the first supplementary question to Oral Question No 1 yesterday, does he now know on what date the Government Communications Security Bureau was first told that its surveillance of Kim Dotcom was illegal?

    Maybe he will get better at it. Maybe he keeps digging a hole.

    The Standard have a scathing thread on this: Fran’s fracas

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  18. ross69 (3,637 comments) says:

    And now we learn that John Key told a bald faced lie regarding the recovery of the Pike River miners.

    Recent John Key: “I never promised anyone we would get the bodies out,” he said. “We promised family members that we would do everything we could to get the bodies out.”

    Older John Jey: “The first thing is I’m here to give you absolute reassurance, we’re committed to getting the boys out, and nothing’s going to change that. So – when people try and tell you we’re not, they’re playing, I hate to say it, but they’re playing with your emotions.”

    No, John, the only one playing with anyone’s emotions has been you.

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  19. ross69 (3,637 comments) says:

    David Shearer: On what date did the Government Communications Security Bureau first become aware that its surveillance of Kim Dotcom was illegal?

    Rt Hon JOHN KEY: The first day that I was briefed by the Government Communications Security Bureau about it being illegal was likely to be the 17th.

    David Shearer: Point of order—

    Mr SPEAKER: I think I can predict the Leader of the Opposition’s point of order. The member actually asked on what date the Government Communications Security Bureau became aware that its investigation may have been illegal, not the date on which the Prime Minister was advised of that.

    Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I do not have that date to hand.

    So our illustrious leader has had weeks to find out when GCSB knew its spying was illegal. But he still doesn’t know. What incompetence!

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  20. alex (298 comments) says:

    Gosh, a National Party stooge who is critical of the Labour leader, whatever next?

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  21. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    Safety has always been the over-riding factor Ross69. Are you saying that Key gave an unconditional commitment to get them out regardless of saftey issues? Are you saying that it is now safe to go in? After you…

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  22. labrator (1,691 comments) says:

    “we’re committed to getting the boys out,” != “we promise to get the boys out”

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  23. Grizz (476 comments) says:

    Ross, if you want a competent PM, you clearly do not want Shearer. So who would your choice be?

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  24. Kleva Kiwi (267 comments) says:

    Ross69 said “And now we learn that John Key told a bald faced lie regarding the recovery of the Pike River miners.

    Recent John Key: “I never promised anyone we would get the bodies out,” he said. “We promised family members that we would do everything we could to get the bodies out.”

    Older John Jey: “The first thing is I’m here to give you absolute reassurance, we’re committed to getting the boys out, and nothing’s going to change that. So – when people try and tell you we’re not, they’re playing, I hate to say it, but they’re playing with your emotions.”

    No, John, the only one playing with anyone’s emotions has been you.”

    I am failing to see the lie here Ross. JK never said that he “would” get them out. He never made any guarantee that the bodies “would” be recovered. He said they were “committed” to getting them out as detractors at the time where saying he was not. After exhausting options it became apparent that recovering the bodies was not going to happen in the short term. There is no point risking further peoples lives to recover the remains.

    You need to stop trying to play with words and trying to twist the meaning into something else. This is simply clutching at straws.

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  25. Keeping Stock (9,787 comments) says:

    Since when has anyone from the Left been worried about the truth?

    And Robertson’s faux outrage at John Banks’ objections to the release of his police file under the OIA are going to seem very hollow some time on or before November 9th :P

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