Cactus on Shearer

October 14th, 2012 at 11:02 am by David Farrar

summarises:

 1. Allege there is a recording of something John Key is alleged to have said inside the GCSB.

2. Admit you have not actually heard or seen the alleged recording and have the GCSB deny one exists.

3. Appear on RadioLive to be interviewed by a former Minister who has dealt with these matters and stutter your way through the interview without a shred of actual evidence of #1.

4. More importantly have those allegations the night before completely overshadow the news cycle of a very poorly attended long-awaited manufactured EPMU conference on the alleged manufacturing crisis in New Zealand.

5. Completely expose your female Chief Press Secretary to allegations about her private life and professionalism of those close to her based on being the most obvious Beltway source of the leak in #1.

6. Change your story about the recording which is now allegedly one made without the GCSB’s permission.

7. Have zero of your own colleagues back you up.  Even the loud cheerleaders stay deathly silent.

8. By the end of Friday, when all the journalists are on their first beer at happy hour gasping over the whole sordid mess and you have run out of the week while Parliament is in recess anyway – have successfully put the entire focus on yourself to actually produce the recording.

I can’t add anything to that.

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59 Responses to “Cactus on Shearer”

  1. jims_whare (403 comments) says:

    Well I guess Shearer won’t need to buy any more tooth brushes – he will just need to squirt toothpaste on his big toe before inserting his foot into mouth.

    No offence but isn’t this becoming a regular occurrence?

    I guess Mr Cunliffe will be crying a river around the bbq this weekend…….

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  2. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    It would seem nobody had told Holmes this morning on Q&A. Either that or he simply ignored it

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  3. m@tt (629 comments) says:

    Of course come election time nobody is going to remember Shearer’s part in the possibility of this tape existing (unless of course it does turn up) but everyone is going to remember the GCSB, DotCom , Banks, Key melange that paints Key as an untrustworthy incompetent minister with zero control over his portfolios.
    After all it is only the completely blinded by bias Key fanclub that really believe he didn’t know who DotCom was.

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  4. jims_whare (403 comments) says:

    Quite right matt. No one will remember Shear’s part in this – neither will they remember Shearer at all.

    The odd politics junkie may remember that he was once the leader of the third party in Parliament who got rolled prior to Christmas 2012.

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  5. Mark (1,488 comments) says:

    Cactus has made a good point and Shearer fucked it up but m@tt also makes a fair point. Shearers cock up is not going to stop people focussing on the string of Key’s own fuck-ups in the past 3 -4 months. Failure to deal with Banks plus the shambles of the dotcom affair has been damaging and the consequence is the terrifying concept of a Labour Greens coalition government next time round and what lunacy that may bring.

    Good on Cactus for trying to rescue JK and stick one to Shearer, but despite Shearer’s poor performance National is in trouble and largely because Key has simply not been decisive and fronted up on these issues.

    It cant be too long before National has to start considering Joyce as a better option.

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  6. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    I’d say a challenge must be coming soon from Grant “manhole inspector” Robertson. As for Cunners, I don’t think he would have anything like the numbers needed to mount a meaningful challenge (but given his ego, that still may not stop him).

    **Really** fun times ahead for Labour. The irony of it all is that they could probably win the 2014 election with a crash-test dummy as leader. National’s lack of partners will almost certainly see them defeated in that election.
    Key will need to pull a dinosaur-sized rabbit out of the hat to stay in power.

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  7. double d (225 comments) says:

    M@tt shows again his political leanings view that the means justifies the end. Shearer can make up shit and disguise it as asking “questions”, when all it is is an unsubstantiated claim.
    Sad state of politics in NZ

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  8. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    Key will declare war on Tonga thor42!

    That should do it. :)

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  9. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    And it’s one we have the resources to almost win! :)

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  10. Manolo (13,772 comments) says:

    Out with the liar Shearer!

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  11. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    Down with folks that wear uniforms like this ( even if they are dead ) Manolo! :)

    http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=king+george+tupou+of+tonga&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=wfR5UJ-jKYmTiQfUtIHYCQ&ved=0CDoQsAQ&biw=1482&bih=852

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  12. David Garrett (7,274 comments) says:

    What did Chrissie Carter say about Goff? “A nice guy, but he just can’t win”…this poor fellow makes Neville Chamberlain look positively Churchillian…

    “I hold here in my hand…a tape of Herr Key…well…actually I don’t…but there might be one…”

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  13. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    And to think, Cactus has been such a staunch supporter of Labour…

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  14. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > only the completely blinded by bias Key fanclub that really believe he didn’t know who DotCom was

    Well, quite. And Key knew in January that Dotcom had permanent residency…but apparently forgot to tell GCSB about that fact. Key also knew that given Dotcom’s residency status, GCSB were not permitted to spy on him. Key also forgot to inform GCSB of that fact. What an incompetent Prime Minister. I suspect he’ll go down as the most incompetent in living memory, if he’s not the biggest fraud since Lance Armstrong. Now let’s all talk about David Shearer…

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  15. David Garrett (7,274 comments) says:

    Johnboy: Having seen the Tonga Defence Force exercising Johnboy, I wouldnt be so sure our brave boys could triumph….shit, even fat psychiatrists up there pack a mean punch!

    Ross: Give it up man…you sound like poor Bill Rowling squeaking “We WON’T put up with it!” in a debate with Muldoon last century…

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  16. RF (1,398 comments) says:

    The man is a fool, a fool, a fool !!!!!

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  17. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    And to think, ross69 has been such a staunch supporter of National…

    Now I’m sure you weren’t implying that Cactus’ arguments are spurious…

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  18. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    What about Niue David?

    Surely with Helens LAV’s we could just prevail? :)

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  19. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    Q&A has become a partisan “media” outlet, too, then.

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  20. marcw (247 comments) says:

    9. And on Monday morning the MSM are all standing around blowing on their pies wondering “what the fuck was that all about?” Nek minit, they disappear up their own orifices, hoping like hell they don’t draw the short straw next time their Pravda bosses ask them to go and interview that broken old Sheep Shearer, or that they actually have to go out and do some real journalism (like those awful bloggers.)

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  21. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    I think that the Shearer thing raises some valid issues.

    However, I think that this whole situation will be more damaging to Key overall.

    Shearer is a soft target, but not really ‘juicy’ enough for anyone outside of the beltway to get hot and bothered about. In short, Shearer’s practical anonymity will mean people even look up from their beans on toast when his balls-up are told on the six-0’clock news.

    However, Key’s very high profile ensures that his balls-up will stick in people’s memories for longer.

    Narratives about Shearer’s idiocy simply look like attempts to deflect from this, or attempts to light a smokescreen and keep it lit.

    The public at least are safe in the knowledge of one thing: Both of them are equally incompetent.

    However when we look at Key’s recent shennanighans with ACT/Banks, I’d say on balance, Shearer at least for now, can claim incompetence as a defense, but at least cannot be accused of being morally corrupted.

    So it’s 40-15 to Shearer – match-point.

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  22. Pete George (23,562 comments) says:

    There’s something Cactus has missed – that Shearer would use leaks from the GCSB to try and score political points, as is the fact that employees of GCSB will apparently leak for political purposes.

    I’ve mentioned this before but so did Colin James on The Nation, and separately Bill Ralston, agreed to by Brian Edwards.

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  23. Pete George (23,562 comments) says:

    On Dim-Post NeilM made this point:

    Cockup: Key visits GCSB not for any specific briefing and in passing reference is made to Dotcom and Key fails to pick up on potential trouble.

    Conspiracy: Obama, the FBI, Hollywood mogals, the NZ govt, police and GCSB all collude to frame the innocent Dotcom in order to protect the interests of Big Business.

    And yet the only leak from all those people and organisations, if it is indeed more than a figment of Shearer’s imagination, is that there might be a video that might show Key telling a joke.

    And it’s a joke that Shearer and the Labour troops at The Standard have been promoting as supposedly a big scandal.

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  24. Akaroa (557 comments) says:

    For goodness sake! How much longer is the non-isue of Dotcom and ‘What John Key said/knew or didn’t say/know or when’ go on?.

    If ever a measure was required of the superficial and inconsequential nature of what passes for public comment and reasoning in this fair land was needed, this is it.

    I’m astonished that so many bloggers to whom I have always attributed at least an average degree of intelligence and worldliness can waste so much time, energy and cerebral energy on a non-issue like this.

    I’m no Hellen-ophile, but she said it! “Nothing to see here – move along”

    And there is nothing!! Think about it!!

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  25. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    Well if you get down and wrestle in the shit with a fat pig like Dotcom Akaroa something sticks.

    That was Key’s mistake. Once upon a time PM’s were distant figureheads that we all admired, from a distance! :)

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  26. Akaroa (557 comments) says:

    Hi Johnboy

    Yep. You’re right. But that’s the risk you take if – like John Key – a politician plays his ‘man-of-the-people’ image in a major key. (No pun intended!!)

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  27. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    Sir Keith Jacka was the bloke that I really admired. All the rest since then have been fuckin jokes! :)

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  28. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    I mean he was useless but he had style! :)

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  29. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    You’re right Akaroa; the feeling I’m getting from people I’ve spoken to is that they’re suffering from Dotcom Fatigue Syndrome; they’re over it. Key may or may not mentioned him at the GCSB in February, but people really don’t care, unless they political tragics; in which case they won’t change their minds one way or the other.

    And people are getting heartlily sick and tired of the John Campbells and Paddy Gowers of the world who are filled with self-importance, and are trying to tell them what to think. Journalists should be reporting the news, not concocting it or even worse, being the news.

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  30. Nostalgia-NZ (5,203 comments) says:

    What are your reports from around the traps Keeping Stock on people getting tired of people saying that they’re getting tired of people saying that are tired of old JK getting his licks?

    Everyone is taking liberties today KS, Pete George has modestly placed himself in the company of Colin James, Bill Ralston and Brian Edwards whilst meanwhile you’ve been conducting some incisive polls on who’s getting tired of what. What a Sunday!

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  31. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    The saddest folks of all are the poor bastards that watch peoples TV when they have all bought Sky and can afford to watch Living TV or UKTV. And then get on here and have the fuckin audacity to brag about it! :)

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  32. David Garrett (7,274 comments) says:

    Johnboy: Quite so…did you see the doco this arvo on the Kenneday assassination? All sorts of “never before seen” footage from the actual day of the shooting and the days following, up to Jackie standing outside the White House waiting to leave for the funeral…nothing to change anyone’s mind about who, what, and how, but fascinating stuff nevertheless…

    Compared with that, what Key might or might not have said in an off the cuff chat to the spooks in the GCSB caff seems numbingly banal…

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  33. Akaroa (557 comments) says:

    I never watch anything other than the balanced, even-handed treatment of the news that FOX TV offers!!

    (Just kidding – In case you hadn’t realised!)

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  34. Pete George (23,562 comments) says:

    I also get feedback from people that they are fed up with Dotcom, they’re over it.

    I was talking to some people yesterday who normally tend towards supporting Labour but don’t think they are good enough for Government and think National have done a better job than Labour would have getting us through the financial crap.

    N-NZ: show me one journalist who has praisd or supported Shearer over his grand hit job?

    And remember that Shearer accused the GCSB of deliberately deleting data to cover up his story. I had hopes Shearer would be a breath of fresh air for Labour and parliament, but all I hear from him is rehearsed or dumb political farts.

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  35. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    JB

    Have a read about how Kiwi Keith made his money with the help of Georgina Te Heuheu’s family and you’ll see there fuck all to admire.

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  36. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    But he did it all with STYLE PEB. That is the difference between him and the shit we have today.

    They have no fucking style whatsoever, whatever their wealth, or their heritage! :)

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  37. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    I prefer honesty over style JB and it wasn’t that styley just not the media scrutiny we have presently.

    Our present PM is a good PM – he may not do what many of of the rabid want or do things to thier pace but because he has money he does not have to piss in any pockets or use his position like many have in the past

    And if you don’t have to piss in pockets you don’t run up debts .

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  38. Nostalgia-NZ (5,203 comments) says:

    No one praised him Pete George that I’ve seen.

    However I think the absolutes are nonsense that’s he has done his dash. There will be those around that saw he was able to pull out of the situation without claiming that he was misquoted, or that wasn’t what he meant, or that his information wasn’t right. He simply withdrew saying that he accepted the word of the Director of GCSB, refreshing when recently other politicians have relied on can’t recall, can’t remember. There is more cooking under this story yet.

    As for dotcom, it’s his situation that interests me, those that say they’re tired of it or him personally don’t appear to have a keen interest in due process. That doesn’t put aside that it seems everything dealing with dotcom by officials is either abridged of process or illegal and I’m interested in that also.

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  39. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    Why then is he running up a debt with the stone age folk PEB?

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  40. RF (1,398 comments) says:

    Lee C. 2.47pm.

    Mr. Magoo aka Shearer hits his tennis ball over the netting fence and was last seen heading off into the bush in the wrong direction looking for it. Search party is being formed but no one interested in joining. Kind of sums him up doesn’t it.

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  41. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > Shearer accused the GCSB of deliberately deleting data to cover up his story

    Yes, Pete, and various people accused Lance Arnstrong of being involved in a conspiracy of drug taking. What a bunch of nutters!

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  42. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    God loves a trier Ross. On Thursday, Shearer was raving on about a video his “sources inside the GCSB” had told him about. Within 24 hours, he’d been forced to admit that the video did not exist. It’s the political version of a premature ejaculation for poor ol’ David.

    Having also admitted that Rufus Paynter was a figment of someone’s imagination, David Shearer is starting to build up a fantasy track record.

    Were the Somalian children fighting over the mango skins a figment of his imagination as well, and what about the war lords he stared down? Is the back story about to unravel as well?

    So many questions…

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  43. Fox (206 comments) says:

    The GCSB saga has shown Shearer to be clumsy and incompetent.
    However it has also shown Key to be a plain liar.

    I think I know which of the two NZ voters will be more forgiving of.

    Shearer is National’s best shot of clinching on to another 3 years. If Nats are smart, they’d be giving him a virtual free ride in the hope Labour decides to hold on to him til the next election.

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  44. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Fox, it was Shearer who was caught telling lies.

    Do try and keep up !

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  45. David Garrett (7,274 comments) says:

    Fox: Dead right…He’s God’s gift to the Nats…the gift that keeps on giving as they say….

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  46. Nookin (3,341 comments) says:

    “However it has also shown Key to be a plain liar.”

    I am having trouble following the logic. Shearer says that there is a tape in which Key appears talking about Dotcom. Key says he has no recollection at all of discussing dotcom and challenges Shearer to front up. GCSB says there is no tape and no record of there ever having been a tape. No-one fronts up to say that they were there. Shearer says the tape has been destroyed. GCSB says what tape? Shearer looks silly (it happens when you play gotcha politics after you promise not to). It’s put to Shearer that there is no evidence that a tape ever existed. Shearer says that there is no evidence that it didn’t exist. And Fox says Key is proven to be a liar. Why? Cos there’s a tape you see….

    Tell me fox— ever heard a song about a hole in my bucket?

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  47. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > it was Shearer who was caught telling lies.

    I think you’ll find that come Tuesday, our illustrious leader will be telling Parliament that he’s profoundly sorry for misleading his colleagues and the public. But his real sorrow will be at getting caught.

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  48. Nookin (3,341 comments) says:

    I think you will find that come Tuesday Key will be telling Parliament that it has come to his attention that an image of dotcom was shown to him as part of a montage of multiple images,without explanation, and that he failed to connect the dots with sufficient clarity as to remember the incident. Sort of like 99.9% of the population. Except if it happens to someone in the national party it’s deceit but if it happens to someone in the labour party, it’s only human (Like — I forgot that I didn’t paint that painting.)

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  49. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    And I think you will find on Tuesday Key will NOT tell Parliament how he was unaware at the speed the motorcade was going because he had his head down working. Nor will he tell Parliament that he mistakenly signed a picture which was not his own work. Nor will he tell Parliament that he did not leak details about Peter Doone to a reporter at the Dom-Post because “by definition, I cannot leak”. Nor will he call anyone “cancerous”, “corrosive” a “hater and wrecker” or a member of “a weird sect”.

    Rather John Key will seek leave to admit to having made a mistake, and knowing Labour, someone (probably Mallard) will object to leave being granted, so the PM will have to make a Prime Ministerial statement ‘fessing up to having made a mistake. It is refreshing to have a Prime Minister who owns their shit, as the expression goes.

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  50. Nostalgia-NZ (5,203 comments) says:

    Well that’s 2 versions: didn’t connect the dots, was mistaken.

    Could we call that: no dot, mis dot, dotcom?

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  51. cha (4,017 comments) says:

    Geez KS, a masterful display of obsequious toe-sucking, the best piece of ass-kissing I’ve ever read.

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  52. David Garrett (7,274 comments) says:

    Nookin: Very good sir…

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  53. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    I’d call it a storm in a tea-cup Nostalgia. If that’s the best that Labour can do, then the party has well and truly hit rock bottom. Even your own supporters are dissing you.

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  54. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    And this is interesting:

    The latest 3 News-Reid Research political poll shows the gap between National Party and Labour Party closing. But it appears the Kim Dotcom saga, while it is hurting Prime Minister John Key, is not fatal.

    While Labour has picked up some support, its leader, David Shearer, remains in the doldrums as preferred Prime Minister.

    Mr Key will be buoyed by tonight’s results. National appears to have escaped unscathed from his brain-fade over Dotcom. At 62 seats, National quite remarkably could govern alone.

    Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Poll-National-Labour-gap-closing/tabid/1607/articleID/272680/Default.aspx#ixzz29G3qKJr5

    Let me repeat the last line, just in case Ross69, Nostalgia and co missed it; At 62 seats, National quite remarkably could govern alone.

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  55. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    Where does that leave Banksie then KS? :)

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  56. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    Up the river on a cabbage boat I would suspect Johnboy :P

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  57. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    He could make the tea I guess! :)

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  58. Nookin (3,341 comments) says:

    Given that Banksie’s prospects of re-election seem slight and given Penelope’s insatiable desire to ensure that Banks is forever in public office (a feat usually accomplished by standing against him) I suspect that right as we speak she is cajolling Banks to stand for the supercity mayoralty next year.

    http://www.pennybrightsupportsbanksforthesupercity.com

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  59. Paulus (2,627 comments) says:

    Remembering Jacka Holyoak.
    Working on the Terrace north end one day – Friday afternoon- a limo type car came straight out of Parliament into Bowen Street, not stopping, and right into path of a bus coming down. Screech brakes and honking of horn – both vehicles stop no collision.
    Bus driver gets out and goes to car driver – gets there and find Holyoak driving himself – he gets out, and apologises to the big Maori bus driver, everybody watching – they shake hands, have a laugh, and everybody goes their way.
    Those were the better days.

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