General Debate 27 October 2012

October 27th, 2012 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Dave Stringer (185 comments) says:

    Good morning
    May your god go with you.

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  2. Chuck Bird (4,737 comments) says:

    I posted this late yesterday so did not get much response. Hopefully I can get some media attention at the Pukekohe District Court on Monday if the hearing that is a backup goes ahead. I have tried the MSM but I do not think I have got their interest.

    I am up against a rogue lawyer who is a sociopath. When he was in university studying law his mother had committed for a week or two. Unfortunately they let him out. I will certainly be telling the judge this on Monday. I think this should be newsworthy.

    I have been shafted in the High Court on Wednesday.

    I made the serious mistake of having a good friendship with a lawyer who I loaned money to. He had acted for me on a number of property transactions. If I know then what I now know about him I would never have loaned money.

    I loaned a large amount secured by a mortgage. It was repaid in 2004 and my so called friend seemed appreciative. I thought that was the end of it. However, his repaying me established his credit in my mind. Anyhow I loaned him more money again secured by a second mortgage. After while his third marriage packed up and he threw away thousands to lawyers – at least the one he paid – trying rip he wife off using trust law. That failed and his trust was put in receivership. He would have been bankrupt except he extorted 100k off his wife. The court ruled strongly in her favour and he was liable for her lawyer and the receiver and his lawyer. He told her though a paid negotiator that if she did not leave him with 100k he make her life hell by dragging things out for years up to the Supreme Court if need be. She paid for him to disappear back to Asia.

    A while after that he fell behind with the BNZ who had the first mortgage and they contacted me. When I spoke to him he said he spoke to a good mortgage broker and could get a loan with another bank and pay the BNZ and me. A few days later he told me the bank would loan he almost enough to pay be my 130k but objected to a second mortgage. He persuaded me to let 35k secured by a caveat. I did not know bugger all about caveats trusted him still although our friendship had been strained.

    He told me it was almost as secure as a mortgage and the property could not be sold with the caveat and the caveat cannot be removed without me being notified. I have found out that was not true. When I tried to recover my money he made a vexatious counterclaim as he has done to others. We were both representing ourselves in the District Court. I was trying to get my money and he was asking for money but also trying to get the caveat removed.

    I then find out property is up for auction and the caveat had been removed. He knows I had moved and worked I had not notified LINZ. LINZ wrote to me at my old address and when they did not get a reply they removed the caveat. I had not incurred and legal costs tell then except filing fees. I knew I had to work fast so I seen a barrister who helped with an application for a freezing order without notice which was unsuccessful. I then had no option but to go to the High Court for a second caveat. My Barrister then prepared papers. I represented myself in the High Court because this guy would try to wind my lawyers costs up as he had done to another former friend he owes money to.

    After I filed my papers I get a response from a John Barrett-Boyes, a barrister he had just employed. I go into court and had to sit at the back. The judge did not invite me to the front as Justice Katz did on Wednesday. The Judge did not ask me if I had anything to say. He asked Barrett-Boyes what date suited him for a hearing – 1 Oct or 24 Oct. He chose 24 Oct. The judge then tells us the dates for submissions and basically dismisses us. I then pop up and say with respect Your Honour, “I went to a lot of expense and trouble to get this far. If I leave without saying anything I doubt if I will every see my money whatever the District Court rules. The property has an unconditional contract on it with settlement on 16 Nov. I believe it is highly likely that the respondent will move the settlement date forward and the hearing on 24 Oct will be pointless.

    The judge said, “The Court will be informed if the settlement date is brought forward.” I have some marginal hearing loss. However, I was standing up looking at the judge when he spoke. I then sat down and Barrett-Boyes stood up. His back was to me so I could hardly hear what he was saying. My view of the judge I believe obscured by Barrett-Boyes. I am almost certain the judge did not change his minute/direction after Barrett-Boyes spoke.

    I tried the next day and afterwards to the judges direction in writing from the register in case the judge got run over by a bus. I was unsuccessful.

    When I appeared in the High Court on Wednesday there was a different judge, Justice Katz. She was really nice and fair. The first thing she did was invite me the front of the court along side Barrett-Boyes. She then said to me I do not know what I can do for you Mr Bird – the property has been sold. I said, “I know Your Honour but settlement has not taken place.” She then said, “Settlement was on 16 Oct.” I was shocked and told her what the judge had said. Barrett-Boyes stood up and told denied what the judge had said. He had not notified the Court of the change of settlement date.

    I got up again and I am not sure whether I said that this is not true or that Barrett-Boyes was lying which I believe he was.

    The judge said she could not help me as it was not in her power. Barrett-Boyes jumped up and asked for costs which she immediately declined I have her ruling in writing if anyone wants it. Contact me at chuckbirdnz@gmail.com

    I now doubt I will see any money as I hope and expect that the court will rule in my favour. The money will have disappeared.

    I am set down for a backup hearing at Pukekohe on Monday 29 Oct at 2:15 pm. Time estimate is 3 hours. I would like to get MSM there. Is it not newsworthy enough that just another crooked lawyer is ripping off his friends?

    The purpose of this post is for and bloggers living handy who have an interest in law and justice may like to attend. Please not this is a back up hearing and I will not know for sure till Monday morning that it is going ahead.

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  3. big bruv (13,454 comments) says:

    Good Morning Dave.

    Take your God where ever you like, knock yourself out. The rest of us will go about our business free from the shackles of middle eastern superstition.

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  4. MT_Tinman (3,033 comments) says:

    Gods Mr Stringer, gods.

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  5. PaulP (143 comments) says:

    I’d imagine the cost of the headphones with MP3 player or iPod/phone and the caps would be less than the train fare for them to Welly. As always a lot of it is priorities
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7870784/Bright-lights-of-the-capital-just-a-dream

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  6. Keeping Stock (10,161 comments) says:

    All the gains that Labour has made since the Saturday of Twenty-Seven Percent have been eroded by one failed smear from David Shearer. Will Labour EVER learn that the public has no appetite for baseless smears and the Shearer Burden of Proof?

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/10/oh-dear_27.html

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  7. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    We need some good investigative reporters to look into the Novopay shambles. Need to find out shareholders of novopay and fees paid and to who for jacking up this deal. It stinks like the the Auckland Health board lab plus deal.

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  8. flipper (3,769 comments) says:

    The idiot red melons (aka Greens) have been at it again. This time breaking UN sanctions against Iran.

    The following email sent out by that pompous green prat, Kennedy Graham, was copied to me from overseas.

    Clearly it does not take a rocket scientist to wonder what on earth the red melons, especially, Graham (note his Green duties below), are doing dancing with the Iranians, given the declared Iranian objective of

    • Wiping Israel from the map
    • Developing nuclear weapons.
    • Oh, and by the way, flouting international SANCTIONS.

    The use of the NZ Legislative Council Chamber (in the House of Representatives) for this accords it a status that can surely do nothing but harm NZ’s international reputation.

    It also makes one wonder whether the loyalty of the green red melons , and Graham in particuLar (as a former MFAT panty waist he should know better!), is to NZ, does it not?

    ++++++++++++++ THE GREENS EMAIL READS +++++++++++ …….

    From: Jenny Ombler
    Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012 4:16:57 p.m. (UTC+12:00) Auckland, Wellington
    To: #Advisors All; #All EAs; #All MPs (excluding Ministers)
    Subject: Iranian Musical Event (Reminder: Thursday lunchtime)
    Kennedy Graham, MP, invites all MPs and staff to attend a traditional Iranian musical event this Thursday, 25 October.
    The recital is from 12.20pm – 1.15pm in the Legislative Council Chamber.
    Two renowned musicians from Iran, Reza Mahini and Yaghob Reboukheh, who are part of the group ‘Del Ava’, will be playing the traditional and classical music of their culture.
    The two musicians recently played at Te Papa as part of a project to strengthen cultural relationships between Iran and New Zealand organised by The Embassy of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
    Below is some further information on the two musicians:

    (REDACTED FOR REASONS OF SPACE WASTE)

    Many thanks
    Jack McDonald
    On behalf of
    Jenny Ombler
    Office of Kennedy Graham MP l Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand
    Green Party Spokesperson for Global Affairs, Climate Change, Trade and Foreign Investment,
    Constitutional Issues, Defence, Disarmament, Population, Associate Finance and Economics
    04 817 8255
    http://www.greens.org.nz
    Authorised by Kennedy Graham MP, Parliament Buildings, Wellington
    Te Ratonga Whare P?remata, Whare P?remata , Te Whanganui-a-Tara

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  9. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    Sharples condemns ignorance of Maori history

    Oh dear, the racist doesn’t think any of us have learnt enough of their version of Maori history. You know the version that tells us they were all sweetness and light.

    :The failure to understand Maori history and traditions was affecting the achievement of Maori pupils, he said, and he questioned whether many mainstream teachers knew what a Maori pupil’s life entailed. ”

    FFS I am dealing today with some of the primatives that are still in the stone age. And I guess its all my fault that I don’r understand them. You know, why they don’t pay their rent, especially when we the taxpayer have given the money to do so, why they do drugs and alcohol, yep its all your fault and why they are in their 20′s, know how to fuck themselves silly, abuse the shit out of one another, wreck their housing, bludge around the neighbour hood amoung their peers, didn’t have an education cause they didn’t eat their breakfast etc etc.

    Yes Mr Sahrples those are your people.
    Mine don’t behave like that. Never have and so are good citizens who work,pay tax for your lot, get educated and so.

    Open your racist eyes. Stupid.

    “The curriculum encouraged an understanding of Aotearoa’s origins, including the principles, values and importance of the Treaty. ”

    And there is the problem.

    Naenae College principal John Russell said that of 26 pupils in a recent year 9 class, 16 had never been to Wellington.

    School principals have revealed that some of their pupils have never set foot in the capital, despite living less than half an hour away, leading to concerns that poverty may be stifling their future ambitions.

    Poverty of the mind. You can bet that they all own a cellphone though.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7870807/Sharples-condemns-ignorance-of-Maori-history

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  10. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7870784/Bright-lights-of-the-capital-just-a-dream

    Porirua College principal Susanne Jungersen said it was common to find pupils who had never left Cannons Creek.

    “I get amazed by the number of students who haven’t been to Wellington city. That gives you pause for thought.

    “We have students in our senior school who don’t know how to catch a train. They don’t know how a train goes, or where.”

    For many, leaving home turf could be intimidating.

    Probably best left there then.

    Nanny will be taking them on sightseeing tours next.

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  11. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    “Milk runs are gone, paper runs are gone. They don’t have any money. What it does is limit their horizons. We’re trying to broaden them.”

    yep all gone, and nanny state of socialist fame prevents them from earnong pocket money anymore byusing the law and their lack of brain power to make the youth too expensive to employ.
    i.e. all except the young girls who can prostitute themselves and earn tax free and the boys who become criminals and drug dealers.

    Well done Nanny.
    Your fucking mad in the head.

    Never understand how nanny and mothers little helpers could be so fucked up.

    Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
    Simple stuff.

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  12. Redbaiter (7,856 comments) says:

    Excellent video that i recommend to all my Conservative friends or anyone interested in understanding something about that political viewpoint.

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  13. Longknives (4,627 comments) says:

    “Milk runs are gone, paper runs are gone..”

    Shame- A paper-run could make a fantastic alibi if one decided to slaughter one’s family….

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  14. Longknives (4,627 comments) says:

    Any Kiwibloggers interested in the Cox Plate? (THE greatest race on Australia’s Racing Calendar)
    Get on All Too Hard at $10s and thank me later….

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  15. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Don’t you have to laugh v2 when the same people who have promoted that children must be taught their “rights” are now more incapable than ever of using them. :)

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  16. Steve (North Shore) (4,517 comments) says:

    The Nation is the Russel Norman Show today. No interuptions from Rachael – amazing

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  17. kowtow (7,873 comments) says:

    Longknives

    We still have paper runs in Dunedin! aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

    How to catch a train? get them to line up ,single file on the track with a butterfly net,tooot tooot. Problem solved.

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  18. ChardonnayGuy (1,170 comments) says:

    And to divert court to the US elections, according to the Scientific American, here are Obama and Romney on science policy: http://www.sciencedebate.org/debate21

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  19. ChardonnayGuy (1,170 comments) says:

    Oops. Sorry, sneeze happened. Try

    http://www.sciencedebate.org/debate12

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  20. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    It is very idealistic to assume the drop in the labour polls are due to shearers smear campaign. Given that half of them would know who shearer is and their only concern is what’s happening on Facebook or seeing their case worker about a supplementary benefit for a new lounge suite. It’s probably more to do with Paula Bennett getting tough or people misguidedly thinking key has taught those indigenous upstarts a lesson.

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  21. Redbaiter (7,856 comments) says:

    Tom Hunter- General Debate two days ago-

    “It’s the main reason that I would disagree with you about your take on the Left-media complex – Gramsci and all. It seems to me that it’s the flipside of leftists who are convinced that we buy “stuff” because we’ve been brainwashed by advertising. In addition I don’t think 99% of the Left-Media are smart enough to operate that way. Also, I think it’s as much an extension of the attitude of non-media people described above – that they’ll just emotively flow with the crowd. As they perceive it that is; we’re already beginning to see some turn on Obama as he begins to acquire the smell of a loser. The “ideas” must survive, and if that means Obama gets thrown under the bus by the left then so be it.”

    Can I distil that to “the left are too dumb to co-ordinate a Gramsci style cultural revolution”.

    Well that is the key of course. The left and their legion of supporters are in general dumb. Not only full of delusional nonsense, politically paranoid, incapable of critical thinking, ignorant of history, and strait jacketed in their approach to dissent, but at the bottom of all of this, utterly and completely and earth shatteringly dumb.

    Control of education is the left wing holy grail and they fight tooth and nail to get it and retain in. Above everything they need this. Why? Only one reason. Its the core strategy of their plan. In fact, the left seek to control education not so they can actually educate, but so they can prevent true education.

    So (in the interests of brevity) you’re right that the left are too dumb to organize a cultural revolution, but the reality is that once they control education, and dumb everyone down, it all just naturally and sequentially falls into place.

    Read Jason Mettera’s book Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation

    The corruption of our education system is the cause of the corruption of our political system which is the cause of the corruption of our civilisation.

    Marx always said capitalism would fail, and of course it will when its being white anted by a legion of robots who do not have the faintest understanding of what they are doing or any intellectual concepts outside those impanted in their brains by their Marxist teachers.

    How many Marxists do you know who were Marxists before they went to university?

    Student chant from George Mason University-

    Barack Obama
    Mighty Obama
    Everywhere we go
    People want to know
    Who is our President
    So we tell them
    Barack Obama

    Organizer’s speech- (cheered wildly)

    “Today, everybody represent Obama as a man. And today, we’re gonna sing, uplift, and bring Obama’s presidency, because that’s what we’re here to do man”

    Female student on placing her vote for Obama-

    “It’s probably the most excited I’ve ever been in my entire life. I seriously think I had an emotional seizure or something. my whole body seized up. I couldn’t breathe. Its like I really mattered I picked the President, That was me, I think I’m in love with America right now.”

    So she is transfixed by Obama, but she can’t spell or do arithmetic and she doesn’t know anything of history or critical thinking, and that Tom, is how it is done.

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  22. Fletch (6,107 comments) says:

    More facts about the Benghazi attack coming out, and they are devastating.

    According to a news story, the White House was in constant communication with the embassy in Benghazi. They had two drones overhead. They also had people on the ground they were in radio contact with. They knew what was going on in real time. Those on the ground radioed in for help TWICE and were told to stand down. One of the enemy mortars had been laser targeted and could have been destroyed by air support, only 480 miles away – more than enough time to fly in and save them.

    Obama has blood on his hands.

    Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that three urgent requests from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack nearly seven hours later were denied by officials in the CIA chain of command — who also told the CIA operators to “stand down” rather than help the ambassador’s team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

    Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were part of a small team who were at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When they heard the shots fired, they radioed to inform their higher-ups to tell them what they were hearing. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. An hour later, they called again to headquarters and were again told to “stand down.”

    Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight. 

    At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound.

    The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators. 

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/

    According to some other reports, the WH administration is in tense meetings, trying to tamp all this down until after the election.

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  23. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Excellent video. Thanks, R.B.

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  24. Redbaiter (7,856 comments) says:

    Thanks for the kind words Manolo. It is a good video. One of the best I have seen.

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  25. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    A con-man tries to sell a failed enterprise: http://www.caintv.com/AlGoresCurrentTVputtingitselfu-638

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  26. Paulus (2,544 comments) says:

    Why doesn’t Winz pass on the state house rents directly to Housing NZ thereby avoiding the non payment of rent – cut out the middle man – the state housed renter. Smoother all round.

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  27. Nostalgia-NZ (4,994 comments) says:

    Chuck Bird.

    I”d forget about the personality stuff, it want make any difference. The fact is you had a loan secured by caveat, unless he can advance sound reasons why he didn’t pay, or indeed make contact and explain it he’s got a problem. Katz has told you that you have an arguable case, and that the contract may have been breached, but that she was unable to do anything about because of the particular application was to re-instate the caveat – which she couldn’t do because the sale had proceeded early.
    It seems straight forward and unfair to you at the same time, but because it isn’t complex and the Court won’t put up with smokescreens from him for long. I’m sure your lawyer has already told you nothing matters but the issue of your money, personalities, what one person might have said or done one day are nothing to do with it. He has either paid you back or he hasn’t, that he hasn’t and provided reasons with good notice won’t help him. If he’s ordered to pay and doesn’t he won’t be solvent for long or practising if he still does.

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  28. dime (9,607 comments) says:

    Windows 8 is fucking awesome!!!

    Dime downloaded win 8 pro from Microsoft for 50 bucks.

    the operating system is lightening fast. it took about 3 minutes to load my start screen with all the major apps. all the good local ones like sky and menu mania etc.

    xbox music – its basically just free music. type in an artist and select the album/ track. impressive.

    downloaded the free media centre plug in.

    just a great experience.

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  29. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    Josie Pagani has just said on radio that she thinks DPF will have been turned while in Vietnam and will come back a raging Commie intent on taking down the National party from within. Redbaiter and Whale will be saying what’s new?….;-)

    [DPF: Ha she told me she was going to punish me for being away :-)]

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  30. ChardonnayGuy (1,170 comments) says:

    Two damned good backgrounders on PRC politics:

    Richard McGregor: The Party: The Secret World of China’s Communist Rulers: London: Allen and Lane: 2010.

    Jonathan Fenby: Penguin History of Modern China: The Fall and Rise of a Great Power: 1850-2008: New York/London: Allen and Lane: 2008.

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  31. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    Chuck @ 8:02 I’m very sorry to hear all that. I wish you all the best for your hearing, if I had legal skills I would offer them, I’m sure someone will.

    That’s a serious allegation against Barrett-Boyes. An officer of the Court cannot lie to the Court. That’s disbarment territory I think. And all you have to do to prove it is to get the first Judge to give you an affidavit. I’m not sure what the protocol is in these things, whether the Judge even would or could give you something like that, but you should be able to get something to show the court on Tuesday. Have you written to the first Judge and asked?

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  32. Redbaiter (7,856 comments) says:

    Josie Pagani has just said on radio that she thinks DPF will have been turned while in Vietnam and will come back a raging Commie intent on taking down the National party from within. Redbaiter and Whale will be saying what’s new?….;-)

    Yep, the National Party was “taken down from within” long ago.

    Bit by bit by bit it was infiltrated by commies and liberals who should be in the Labour party.

    Hence the one party state we now live in, and where each election, we just squabble ineffectively over which band of commies liberals socialists and progressives gets to lead that party.

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  33. Chuck Bird (4,737 comments) says:

    Reid, thanks for you best wishes. I have sent a memorandum to the first Judge thought the register requesting his minute/direction in writing. He may or not reply.

    I have basically done my money because he did not make his direction clear and in writing. It does not matter what the District Court rules I stand little chance of getting my money.

    I know what the judge said in response to me. When I sat down I could not hear Barrett-Boyes very well as his back was to me. I do not beleive Barrett-Boyes got the judge to change his mind but it is possible as my hearing is not the best and i depend a little on lip reading to confirm what I hear. As I say I am 100% certain what the judge said to me when I was standing.

    If Barrett-Boyes denies this either he has worse hearing than me or he is a bloody liar. Does anyone know if he is the offspring of the late Sir Brian Barrett-Boyes?

    Nostalgia-NZ, the person I have an issue is a former lawyer not a current one. When the court ruled in his former wife’s favour. She had to put their trust into receivership to get any money. It cost her 100k. If she did not give away 100k this scum bag threatened to drag things on appealing up to the Supreme Court.

    I am hoping to get some media there – either MSM or bloggers.

    I have written to Judith Collins but she probably cannot not do anything till after the case.

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  34. wat dabney (3,715 comments) says:

    The bandstanding neo-fascists of Labour and the Greens were promising to investigate NZ’s manufacturing “crisis” the other day, whilst at the same time having policies that force up energy prices which make the country unviable.

    Of course they are only interested in misrepresenting and twisting the issue for their own gain, but there’s a good WSJ item about the transforming effects of cheap shale energy.

    I never would have expected that as a region we’d have a second chance to be a real leader in American manufacturing,” Bill Flanagan of the Allegheny Conference on Community Development, a regional business group, told a crowd of locals who came to hear about the chemical plant. “Suddenly we’re back in the game.”

    It isn’t just Beaver County reaping the benefits of cheap gas. Plunging prices have turned the U.S. into one of the most profitable places in the world to make chemicals and fertilizer, industries that use gas as both a feedstock and an energy source. And they have slashed costs for makers of energy-intensive products such as aluminum, steel and glass.

    “The U.S. is now going to be the low-cost industrialized country for energy,” the energy economist Philip Verleger says. “This creates a base for stronger economic growth in the United States than the rest of the industrialized world.”

    Natural gas is only part of the story. The same hydraulic-fracturing revolution that is freeing gas from shale formations is being used to extract oil. U.S. oil production is up 20% since 2008, and the U.S. government expects it to rise another 12.6% in the next five years.

    To read the whole article, google for “Cheap Natural Gas Gives New Hope to the Rust Belt”

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  35. Fletch (6,107 comments) says:

    And now for something a little different.

    Darth Vader vs. Gandalf.

    Very well done :)

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  36. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    Dangerously dumb Obama supporters say they hate his own policies… A reporter pretends Romney has certain policies when really they are actually things Obama has already done, and even when the idiots are told they’re actually not Romney’s policies but in fact, Obama’s own actions he’s already in fact done, they still say they’d vote for Obama.

    I mean it’s just another day in democracy, I’ll bet you could do the same thing here on the streets of Wgtn and you’d get the same answers from the same morons. But this is cognitive dissonance in action, it’s visceral. This is how cognitive dissonance works. To deny facts and evidence because your tummy hurts. And conservatives do it just as much as these lefty idiots. It’s just when you do it, you don’t know you’re doing it. Unless you’re aware of the phenomena, that’s the only repeat only cure, because I see it happening all the time, even on this very blog.

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  37. sbk (310 comments) says:

    Satire Rules…Benghastly,for the Obama Admin….teach em’right for Beingnasty with the truth.

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  38. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    Obama media myths vs the truth

    http://www.tomatobubble.com/obamahoax.html

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  39. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    Illuminati mass mind control is predicated on a numbing steady delivery of 6th-grade level non-news to the masses, combined with the occasional 911/Kennedy Assassination fear-inducing shock, designed to cement obedience and allegiance to their resource monopoly. The elite must constantly manufacture fake bad guys to divert criticism from their hegemonic global banking cartel. Not coincidentally, the bad guys always possess a resource which the bankers covet. Western intelligence agencies serve as spearhead in designing and implementing these psyops. Since oil greases the Illuminati’s City of London money shuffle, the Middle East is naturally home to a plethora of “bad guys”.

    And doesn’t that describe our world as it really operates, today? Or can’t you see it because everytime you look at it like that, your tummy hurts?

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  40. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    Murdoch must be loving this.

    NYT shoots itself in the foot by publishing “all the news that’s fit to print.” Except this news was about how the new Chinese leader is worth around $1.2 billion, which seems to have upset the Chinese censors. But the NYT recently setup a Chinese language edition designed to attract advertising $ aimed at the booming Chinese luxury segment. But helpfully, the NYT have issued a pdf version which is easier to circulate by email, circumventing the censorship.

    So it’ll be interesting to see future behaviour won’t it. Which will win: journalistic principles or the advertising dollar?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-blocks-new-york-times-web-site-after-report-on-leaders-wealth/2012/10/25/a94707a8-1f02-11e2-ba31-3083ca97c314_story.html

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  41. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    The heat is on the lying administration: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA_SURVEILLANCE_VIDEO?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-26-20-18-22

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  42. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    Police now drawing up arrest strategies for those who abused children with or without Savile and who are still alive.

    I wonder if the list includes Prince Charles?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/25/jimmy-savile-sexual-assault-complaints-alive

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9633678/Jimmy-Savile-300-victims-400-lines-of-inquiry-130-interviews.html

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  43. MT_Tinman (3,033 comments) says:

    Mr Saville has been found guilty only by the slime and certain interested pollies.

    I look forward to Mr Saville’s defence although, given Mr Saville’s current circumstances (he’s dead at the moment) I suspect it may take some time.

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  44. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    Mr Saville has been found guilty only by the slime and certain interested pollies.

    In my reading MT it’s a spontaneous uprising. None of the elites ever want this issue discussed in public because of the implications to them. This is why it’s always, always closed down, as my post last weekend illustrated with the Haut de la Garenne case in Jersey (which Savile is connected with), the Marc Dutroux and Michel Nihoul case in Belgium and the Franklin Coverup case in the US which all illustrate this close-down phenomena and those cases are just the tip of the iceburg.

    Every single one of those cases indicated links to the aristocracy, the judiciary and the police. As I said last weekend the investigators in the Belgian case were replaced twice, until finally, a third one came at last, to the “correct” conclusion. Which sparked public protests.

    And it will happen again here. A few scapegoats will be thrown to the dogs. The media will pretend there’s nothing else to see and in six-twelve months, the fuss will have died down and hundreds of thousands of children will keep “disappearing” all over the world. Same as they do every year.

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  45. hj (6,612 comments) says:

    Frank Newman said…
    JH has left a new comment, “Technology finds sources of energy and ways to use them. Human population increases at an exponential rate. Technology isn’t the answer a change in behaviour is the answer.” (The remainder of the comment has not been published as it is of a promotional nature.)

    To say human population is increasing at an exponential rate is arrant nonsense and a good example of comments made by those who do not “walk around with their senses attuned to the world we live in”.

    The rate of world growth has been declining (still increasing but at a slower rate) since the 1970s.

    This is most likely to be because as nations become more prosperous the birth rate declines, but there did happen to be a minor medical innovation at about this time – the contraception pill! Another example of how innovation will actually ensure humans will survive just fine on planet earth, the place we call home.
    http://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.co.nz/2012/10/frank-newman-innovation-not-for-grenies.html

    Is there a Carrying Capacity for Homo sapiens?

    As we have seen, the human population growth curve is currently following an exponential curve or a “J-shape” (fig. 1). Common sense tells us that such growth cannot continue – otherwise within a few hundred years every square foot of the Earth’s surface would be taken up by a human. Furthermore, experience with other species tells us that, ultimately, resource limitations and/or habitat degradation will force the human population curves to approach an upper limit or asymptote – the carrying capacity, often symbolized as ” K” by ecologists. It is very natural to ask the linked questions – does humanity have a carrying capacity and, if so, what is it – and when will we reach or overshoot this limit?
    http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/human_pop/human_pop.html

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  46. Peter (1,653 comments) says:

    Porirua College principal Susanne Jungersen said it was common to find pupils who had never left Cannons Creek.“I get amazed by the number of students who haven’t been to Wellington city. That gives you pause for thought.
    “We have students in our senior school who don’t know how to catch a train. They don’t know how a train goes, or where.”

    Interesting! Wellington used to have a street kid problem in the 80′s, but that died off. Is it because they no longer know how to catch a train?

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  47. Ross12 (1,234 comments) says:

    I did not see the The Nation program but reports on the Greens wanting to be Ministers in a new Government , while not surprising in itself, but the read that Norman has the Environment portfolio on the “second level” behind the economic and finance portfolios puts what a number on here and other blogs have been saying” right out in front.”
    It really confirms ,publically, the take over of the environment movement by the far left.

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  48. Nookin (3,157 comments) says:

    East Coast 29 Wanganui 27.

    EC were 27 -3 down and scored three late tries in front of home crowd at Ruatoria. Grassroots rugby at its special best. The crowd loved it.

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  49. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/25/CBS-Busts-Obama–and-Itself-Hidden-60-Minutes-Clip-Proves-White-House-Lied-About-Benghazi

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121024143955AAcGUpD

    How many things are wrong with this?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/9632335/Brazilian-student-sells-her-virginity-for-780000-online.html

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  50. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Hj, it is unknown whether we are still in the exponential phase of growth or starting to slow in a gompertzian fashion. The difficulty is if it is not gompertzian well there may be a serious crash which would be associated with catastrophic events such as famine, epidemics, war etc.

    The answer is the human race is already above its carrying capacity for for what we would call a “humane” existence. The evidence is plain to see – Continually rising Food prices, fishing down the food chain, deforestation, species extinction, etc. Technology alone cannot,fix this problem.

    The human population is so important it really,is the only problem facing humanity. Yet another group has been set up to look at it but yet again no publicity because no one can deal with it.

    It is indeed a shame the environmental movement has been so soundly hijacked by the far left because it means that virtually nothing can be done with trust on all sides. If someone tries they are labelled far right or illuminati (by our friend Reid here), so how to proceed…..

    I do wish a centre right real environmental party would emerge here I have to admit.

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  51. Yvette (2,736 comments) says:

    Reid – How many things are wrong with this?

    What could be wrong, would be to die a virgin – lest they give you to what they can scrape back together of a suicide bomber.

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  52. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Of course in New Zealand the police would charge this 83 year old gentleman with assault.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/home-invader-no-match-for-83-year-old-black-belt-in-kenmore-home-invasion/story-e6freoof-1226504363640

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  53. sbk (310 comments) says:

    “How many things are wrong with this?”….i aint got ~ $780.000.

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  54. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    And if this 83 year old gentleman came before Judge Raoul Neave (who granted bail to the psyco who murdered
    Christie Marceau)
    Then you could guarantee that Judge Neave would have sentenced the 83 year old gentleman to the
    maximum possible sentence.

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  55. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Police have warned homeowners that while they have a right to defend themselves from intruders only “reasonable” force should be used.

    “Our advice is that people should avoid confronting anybody it’s not my advice that people should arm themselves and confront anyone in a house,” Detective Inspector for Brisbane West Robert Hitch said.

    So the police “warned homeowners” !!! not burglars. Typical. They then go on to advise people not to defend themselves.

    This from the same police who have shot and killed a man for breaking windows. Who taser people at the drop of a hat. The very same police who gunned down an innocent man, with no charges laid. Our police are a disgrace on the issue of self defense. If they were not so arrogant and conceited, they would be sick with shame.

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  56. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Quite right Kea. Tell it to the bastards in blue.

    Most of us rural fellows just keep our gobs shut and have a couple of dogs and a handy streetsweeper for these little emergencies! :)

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  57. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Don’t get me wrong.

    i fully support New Zealand Police as one of the best, if not the best, Police Force,
    ,(sorry Howard Broad) Police ‘departments” In the world.
    However, they need to lay off the P.C. bullshit.

    Scumbag crims who home invade need to know that the police, the judiciary, the population
    will err on the side of the homeowner (and his 80 odd year old wife) to defend themselves.

    This is not currently the case in New Zealand.

    This is very sad.

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  58. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Us in the know just keep guns handy Beryl. Stop drawing attention to us for fucks sake!! :)

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  59. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Just be interested to know.

    When you hate the All Blacks (and yourself) like say, Longknives, Kea, RF, and Big Bruv do because they think the ABs are
    cheats, who would you support in tonights final ?

    Do these tossers consider it to be a fair game because both teams cheat equaly or what ?

    Effing drongos.

    Bet we don’t hear from any of these self hating tossers tonight.

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  60. hj (6,612 comments) says:

    By a continuing process of inflation, Governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some …. Those to whom the system brings windfalls …. become “profiteers” who are the object of the hatred … the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery .. Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.”

    I don’t suppose…?

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  61. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Maybe they hate them cause they are all blacks Beryl?

    Just saying mind you. :)

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  62. Griff (6,966 comments) says:

    On the piss again beryl
    Take up pot smoking you will live longer and we will not have to put up with your alcohol fuelled rants any more

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  63. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Hell you spelled that whole comment without error bach…amazing! :)

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  64. hj (6,612 comments) says:

    Memo to Central Banks: You’re Debasing More than Our Currency
    relates political upheaval to debasing the currency.

    http://www.canfieldpress.com/memo-to-central-banks:-youre-debasing-more-than-our-currency

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  65. Griff (6,966 comments) says:

    The lord must have been with me on that one JB

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  66. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Just be interested to know.

    When you hate the All Blacks (and yourself) like say, Longknives, Kea, RF, and Big Bruv do because they think the ABs are
    cheats, who would you support in tonights final ?

    Final of what?

    I am going to catch up with some mates and listen to a few bands. I suppose you will sit at home bereal, watching a bunch of guys (who “work out”) grope and grab each other in a paddock.

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  67. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Just pathetic Kea.

    Try and answer the question at hand,

    why do you hate yourself so much ?

    Like i asked a couple of days ago, What is your problem ?

    For a sad sack loser such as you, is there any country that has a national, world champion
    team that would get your respect ?

    Come to think of it, is there any sports team anywhere, in any country, in any sport that you respect ?

    Can’t you see what a pathetic loser you are mate ?

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  68. Harriet (4,614 comments) says:

    John Boy#

    I came across this and thought you might like it -

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  69. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Harriet that woman is a national treasure of France
    a wonderfull unique voice.

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  70. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Well what can I say Henriette?

    I love beautiful French Ladies! :)

    La Paloma is one of my favourite songs.

    German is the language of exactitude.

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  71. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    bereal, where do you get all that stuff from in my comments?

    I admire many of our sports people. Real sports. Rugby is just a game. We don’t play it well, its just there is very limited competition.

    No idea what your on about the with “hate yourself” stuff. I feel great about myself and are thankful I don’t play the national disgrace… I mean game, of rugby.

    I do enjoy real sports, that involve a bit more than jumping on guys in skimpy shorts.

    Oh and btw bereal, sitting in front of the telly with a beer in one hand and your dick in the other, is not a “sport”.

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  72. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Where do i get all that stuff from in your comments ?
    i have a brain.
    Like i said Kea, you’r just pathetic,
    You excelled yourself @ 6.52
    Your Dad has a lot to answer for.

    Let me guess, judging by your posts on this blog you would be, say, under 22 years old.
    Right ?

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  73. RF (1,324 comments) says:

    Kea.. bereal is starting to concern me. Perhaps he has been on the bottom of too many scrums and has some type of hate complex towards those who do not like the smell of sweating jock straps. I can take or leave that rugby game but please stop those crazy people running around the field sticking out their tongues, rolling eyes and wanting to cut throats. They scare me and should be the ones that bereal should concentrate on.

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  74. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    My dad is mad on Rugby actually bereal. He played at quite a high level, before damaging his knee in a mining accident.

    I used to play it myself. Nothing wrong with the game, but some of its fans and player, now days, turn me off.

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  75. Zapper (950 comments) says:

    damn you longknives, I would have won big if All Too Hard won it, but I covered myself with a place bet

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  76. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    Barack Obama in ‘virginity’ video row
    An official campaign video that compares voting for President Barack Obama to a girl losing her virginity has provoked a furious reaction from conservatives.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9635780/Barack-Obama-in-virginity-video-row.html

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  77. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    Personal details of internet boss and staff handed over without a search warrant

    Banks, including the ANZ, BNZ and Westpac, turned the information over after deciding there was no Privacy Act reason not to.

    The police request referred the banks to a Privacy Act principle which allowed them to release information to “avoid prejudice to the maintenance of the law by any public sector agency including the prevention, detection, investigation, prosecution, and punishment of offences”.

    The mechanism led to banks releasing – without a legal warrant – the name of the account holder, the account number and home address.

    The banking industry last night said customer privacy was taken “very seriously” but offered no information about the level of proof needed to turn information over to government agencies.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/westpac-bank/news/article.cfm?o_id=243&objectid=10843215

    Doesn’t exactly fill one with confidence.
    First a DHB ot two,then ACC, then Work & Income and now the banks.

    Personal information doesn’t seem to be very sacrosanct anymore.

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  78. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    So it was the police “demanding” it Viking.

    I think its the police that need investigating, not the bank.

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  79. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    Justice Minister Judith Collins has already set her stamp on the portfolio, sweeping aside many of the proposals of her predecessor Simon Power. She explains the reasons behind her reforms
    Judith Collins. Photo / Sarah Ivey
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    Judith Collins. Photo / Sarah Ivey

    As Police Minister, Judith Collins made an ally of the metal crushers, took on the boy racers and won. She took on the most serious criminals in New Zealand, passing the “three strikes” law to deprive them of parole. She is Parliament’s self-proclaimed Great Deterrer.

    But she wasn’t so hardline as Justice Minister when it came to alcopops. Those bright coloured, sugar-loaded drinks beloved by the youth of today were hated by former Justice Minister Simon Power, who was responsible for the first draft of broad-sweeping alcohol reforms in the wake of a major alcohol report by the Law Commission. And alcopops were in his sights.

    His proposal was to limit them to a maximum of 5 per cent – about the same as a beer, the drinks that the youth of his generation had started out on.
    ———————————–

    So Judith did the 3 strikes eh?

    I’m sure DG will be chuffed that he got a lot of credit in this article.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10843203

    —————————–
    So while all the public attention has been on her other scandal-plagued portfolio of ACC, Collins has been busy making significant changes in the justice sector. Many of those have involved unapologetically unpicking some of Power’s legacy.

    Nor does she pull her punches when she disagrees with Power’s measures, describing cuts he proposed to legal aid as “incredibly unfair” and his suggestion that aspects of the inquisitorial system be introduced in New Zealand as “plainly unworkable.”

    That was an area Power was particularly passionate about and he invested significant resource in it, regarding it as less gruelling on victims than the adversarial system and capable of eliciting better evidence.

    In his valedictory, Power said the way the adversarial system dealt with children was unacceptable: “long delays, barbaric practices, all in the name of tradition and precedent.”

    ——————————-

    So we made some prgress BUT then the lawyers got at her and she rolled over and said tickle my tummy boys.

    Collins has equally strong views, but they are the opposite. “We don’t have an inquisitorial system, we have an adversarial system. The state has huge powers and I’m not going to have a system where someone has to prove their innocence.”

    She told the Law Commission to halt its work, saying mixing the systems would be difficult in practice and increase the risk of wrongful convictions. “It may well make some people feel better about the justice system but it will not lead to a better form of justice.”

    ———————–
    She has also flagged a rethink of Power’s Prisoners’ and Victims’ Claims Amendment Bill – a bill which prevents prisoners benefiting financially from any compensation awarded. Instead, any money left over after reparation was paid would be put into a general fund for victims of crime. Collins has put that bill on ice while she gets the views of other parties, claiming she wants to find some common ground.

    Meaning she thinks that crims should prosper from their illgotten gains. Well she is of the criminal fraternaty being a lawyer.

    She is, she claims, the minister who “brought back deterrence”, pointing to the three strikes and the car crushing.

    More of her self promotion here.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10843203

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  80. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    An example was the clash in 2009, shortly after the three-strikes-law coalition agreement between Act and National was hammered out. Chief Justice Sian Elias delivered a lecture in which she questioned whether harsher sentencing worked, offering evidence it possibly caused greater harm for society in later years. Prime Minister John Key said the speech strayed “over the line” while then-Justice Minister Simon Power said judiciary should “apply the law set by Parliament”. He added: “This Government was elected on the sentencing policy.”

    However, the Herald has discovered the scrum was already screwed before Chief Justice Elias chose to speak out. Former Act leader Rodney Hide recalled how he and fellow Act MP David Garrett sat down with Key and Power to work out how the three-strikes policy would work.

    Hide said the National politicians tried to introduce a benchmark of a three-year sentence to those qualifying for the “strike”. It would have the effect of moderating a controversial law. “The point was made that the judges would shoot below (the three-year mark) and defeat Parliament’s will.”

    Hide said a list of people was produced and shown to Key. It showed criminals who had been sentenced to fewer than three years on serious crimes and “were exactly the kind of people we wanted to be kept away”.

    “We were conscious that the judiciary had come out against longer sentences. Politicians had the sense that the judges were out of touch.”

    Ah so Collins did the 3 strikes. Oh dear must be a maori in here somewhere. History has been changed.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10843198

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  81. nasska (10,834 comments) says:

    Moses’ diary : God spoke to me today from inside a burning bush.

    He said I should be more careful about what kind of mushrooms I eat.

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  82. Griff (6,966 comments) says:

    Ergot done wonders for the Christian delusion as well nasska

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  83. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Bereal
    I think you have the wrong Judge re Christie Marceau but Judge Raul Neave recently gave a very soft sentence to a Chinese father in Christchurch who thrashed his daughter with a belt..there were cultural reasons..

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  84. nasska (10,834 comments) says:

    Griff

    Apparently to some of the believers folks like you & I are agents of Satan.

    I don’t know what they’re on about….. my duties nowadays are largely ceremonial. :)

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  85. kowtow (7,873 comments) says:

    Agents of Satan?

    Nothing that grand! Just arseholes.:)

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  86. Griff (6,966 comments) says:

    Kow tow
    Thanks if you think I am an arsehole I am obviously on the right track :lol:

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  87. nasska (10,834 comments) says:

    Watch out tonight Griff…..the God Squad are out & about & looking for action! :)

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  88. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    What a shame. All these stray arseholes about and here’s me straight! :)

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  89. Yvette (2,736 comments) says:

    Yes, Johnboy, keep your mind above those things
    Think of Mireille Mathieu and Hansells jellies

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  90. nasska (10,834 comments) says:

    Don’t worry ‘kowtow’…..if God really hated masturbation so much, He would have given you a girlfriend. :)

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  91. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Her rendition of La Marseillaise could bring a tear to the eye of an old chap who believes that the Froggies are only good for waving white flags and cooking snails and suchlike Yvette! :)

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  92. Steve (North Shore) (4,517 comments) says:

    A I G

    Australia is Gay

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  93. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Nasska…….!!! :) :)

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  94. cha (3,831 comments) says:

    From the Sargasso Sea to Columbia, trouble is brewing.

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  95. Griff (6,966 comments) says:

    nasska he did provide kowtow with a girl friend six in fact Ms palmer and her daughters. :wink:

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  96. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Kowtow should praise the Lord that he didn’t provide him with a girlfriend like Lucia! :) :)

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  97. Griff (6,966 comments) says:

    Cha
    they are still not sure but some are saying that sandy as an ex tropical storm could be as bad as grace “the perfect storm” was or even worse due to it combining with a large low to the north. It is also projected to hit on a spring tide so the storm surge should be significant.

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  98. Nostalgia-NZ (4,994 comments) says:

    Viking2

    ‘Hide said the National politicians tried to introduce a benchmark of a three-year sentence to those qualifying for the “strike”. It would have the effect of moderating a controversial law. “The point was made that the judges would shoot below (the three-year mark) and defeat Parliament’s will.”

    That says more about Hide that the Judiciary. The fact that he continues to assert such things as being relevant, and a reflection on the Judiciary, shows that his design and logic are totalitarian. He wants to control the Judiciary and to promote his case, he predicts that they would act independently and not to his design. The guy is a commie.
    In that same article the new spokesperson for SST says that they just want to ‘educate’ Judges. Never a truer word spoken, she is the spokesperson for a group that wants to control the Judiciary.
    I can’t say I’ve been a fan of hers, but Judith Collins is clear on these freedoms, and independence. As the new Minister of Justice she is looking more like a PM at the moment than the forgetful and often flippant John Key.
    An example of this is that in times when economic stability is paramount Hide focuses on fixing something that is far from broken, while JC is pragmatic, nose to task and not influenced either by slogans or attacks against the feature word of her portfolio – Justice.

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  99. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Seems that the missing 5 year old in the Rimutaka Forest park has just been found.

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  100. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    This is quite good. Shows special ops troops doing various live exercises.

    Possibly scroll in ten or so mins…

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  101. cha (3,831 comments) says:

    The size of the thing conjures up the possibility of power outages continuing through to election day Griff, cue “act of god sent to stop Obama”.

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  102. Griff (6,966 comments) says:

    :lol:
    Try this blog for the meteorological boffins as they track and model it http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2276&page=14#commenttop
    They seem to be somewhat concerned
    This is the latest comment

    675. FlyingScotsman 8:28 AM GMT on October 27, 2012
    I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but apparently even the latest advisory describing TS-force winds 435 miles out is too conservative—Buoy 41048 has started reporting them 525 miles out!!!

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  103. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    Nostalgia-NZ (1,468) Says:
    October 27th, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Dream on. she is a bully. Well versed in the legal manifestations of that craft.

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  104. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    Seems that the missing 5 year old in the Rimutaka Forest park has just been found.

    Very good news Johnboy. Of course, God had nothing to do with it, or did He?

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  105. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    School to trial early start to the day

    A WESTERN Sydney primary school will change its core hours to 8am to lunchtime after a radical plan to beat student fatigue was approved by the education department.

    Merrylands East Public School will start classes an hour earlier and finish at 1.15pm from next year in order to capture peak learning times in the morning and avoid afternoon fatigue.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/school-to-trial-early-start-to-the-day/story-e6freuy9-1226504230414

    God forbid it got tried here. The teachers would have a melt down.

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  106. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Only if she directs the SAR teams Reid. :)

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  107. chiz (1,129 comments) says:

    A WIN-Gallup survey finds atheism on the rise, but only slightly.

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  108. Nostalgia-NZ (4,994 comments) says:

    ‘Dream on. she is a bully. Well versed in the legal manifestations of that craft.’

    Of course she is, she’s also not forgetful or willing to be tolerant of law breakers who ever they are.
    She’s also not looking to change the Justice System, by daydreaming about votes and forgetting the costs.

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  109. Viking2 (11,223 comments) says:

    No she will continue to have it flounder along taking forever to get anywhere at extensive costs to the taxpayer whilst continuing to get further out of reach to the average person who has an issue with the systems integrity. More brutilizing of the taxpayers etc.

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  110. Reid (16,070 comments) says:

    Only if she directs the SAR teams Reid

    Raises an interesting question Johnboy. How would you have directed the SAR teams? I’m not sure myself. Fanning out from the last known point is the obvious but that of course rapidly separates the resources into separate directions and increases the chance you’ll miss the child who may not necessarily respond to callouts. I hope one of the journos asks how they did it. But let’s not hold our breath.

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  111. Nostalgia-NZ (4,994 comments) says:

    In tough times people don’t need quips, they need certainty and direction.
    To this point JC has made Power and Key look like dick heads.

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  112. Longknives (4,627 comments) says:

    “damn you longknives, I would have won big if All Too Hard won it, but I covered myself with a place bet”

    Sorry Zapper- I honestly thought he would pull it off but still a massive effort for an inexperienced 3 year old to run 2nd.
    Still a great result for New Zealand racing with Ocean Park winning, Congratulations to the connections… (Bereal would be shocked to hear me say that- That’s if he even knew there were any sports happening on the planet outside of rugby..)

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  113. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Some of the short ones are the sweetest.
    naaska @ 8.04 and @ 8.53.

    keep up the good work.

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  114. calendar girl (1,197 comments) says:

    Nostalgia @ 9:28 – “The guy is a commie”, referring to Rodney Hide.

    You really must be joking, hopefully only after a few pleasant drinks on a Saturday evening. You are welcome to disagree with Hide’s views on judicial sentencing, but Hide a “commie”? That’s surely not you at your most rational.

    My impression is that a large proportion of the population considers that too many judges undershoot sentencing guidelines for serious crimes. It’s the right of ordinary citizens to hold such views, and Hide is clearly in the same camp. It is for Parliament alone to decide on the law (including sentencing guidelines), not the judges and their fellow-lawyers in the profession.

    Judicial independence is important to protect tenure, and to avoid pressure being applied to judges in respect of specific judgments. It is not a protective cloak to entrench judicial views that runs counter to guidelines set by Parliament – whatever they may be at any time. Like it or not, our democracy has the ultimate say.

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  115. Tauhei Notts (1,633 comments) says:

    Longknives
    Gary Hennessy has been a a battler at Matamata for many years. I was so pleased to see him finally get his big win.

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  116. Nostalgia-NZ (4,994 comments) says:

    You may be right calendar girl but when politicians look to predict what the judiciary might do it conjures up thoughts that is a type of control, particularly when it’s a broadly based assumption that they (Judges) act in unison. Every case is different and so is ever defendant and it’s those circumstances which are the domain of the Court. What Hide was doing at the time was presenting a ‘popular’ policy that had it’s heart ‘fear’ for the public if it wasn’t adopted.
    Just yesterday another voice from the advocates explained that they ‘just wanted to help’ Judges, help that went to ‘educating’ them. In another line McVicar admitting monitoring Judges. As I’ve said before McVicar wants to control the judiciary.

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