Parliament 16 October 2012

October 16th, 2012 at 12:33 pm by speters

2.00 pm – 3.00 pm

Questions to Ministers

  1. DAVID SHEARER to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his statements in relation to Kim Dotcom and the inquiry into the actions of the Government Communications Security Bureau?
  2. METIRIA TUREI to the Minister for Social Development: Does she have confidence that the Ministry of Social Development can keep private information it holds confidential?
  3. KATRINA SHANKS to the Minister of Finance: What are the main features of the Government’s plan to build a more competitive economy based on more savings, higher exports and less debt?
  4. JACINDA ARDERN to the Minister for Social Development: Has the Ministry of Social Development competently managed the private information in its charge?
  5. Peseta SAM LOTU-IIGA to the Minister for Social Development: What children will the White Paper for Vulnerable Children be targeting?
  6. CHRIS HIPKINS to the Minister of Education: What specific criteria were used to determine whether a school in Christchurch was identified for restoration, consolidation or rejuvenation?
  7. Dr RUSSEL NORMAN to the Minister responsible for the GCSB: What were the dates of the three cases that the Government Communications Security Bureau audit highlighted, because they could not assure him “that the legal position is totally clear”, as referred to in his statement of 3 October 2012?
  8. Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by his answer to my Question for Written Answer 3326 (2012)?
  9. Hon LIANNE DALZIEL to the Minister of Civil Defence: Why did he reject the independent Civil Defence Emergency Management earthquake review’s recommendation, which was made in response to the finding that duplication of control was “not only inefficient but put people and property at risk”, and that “the same situation could arise in a number of different parts of New Zealand”?
  10. MIKE SABIN to the Minister of Veterans’ Affairs: What is the Government doing to improve the support and recognition given to veterans?
  11. GRANT ROBERTSON to the Prime Minister: Does he have confidence in Hon John Banks; if so, why?
  12. NICKY WAGNER to the Minister responsible for the Earthquake Commission: What is the objective of the Government review of the EQC?

Questions to Members

  1. HOLLY WALKER to the Member in charge of the Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill: What is the purpose of the Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill?
  2. HOLLY WALKER to the Member in charge of the Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill: Does the Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill attempt to fix discrimination in the current Working for Families tax credit scheme?
  3. HOLLY WALKER to the Member in charge of the Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill: What reports has she seen relating to reform of the In-work Tax Credit through the Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill as a measure to address child poverty?
  4. HOLLY WALKER to the Member in charge of the Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill: Has she received any advice on other parties’ support for the Income Tax (Universalisation of In-work Tax Credit) Amendment Bill?Bottom of Form

Today there are five questions to Ministers from Labour, four from National, two from the Greens and 1 from NZ First. In addition, Holly Walker is asking four questions to Metiria Turei on the Universal In-work Tax Credit Bill.

Patsy of the day goes to Q3 – What are the main features of the Government’s plan to build a more competitive economy based on more savings, higher exports and less debt?

Labour are asking about the GCSB, MSD security breach, Christchurch, and John Banks.

Greens are also asking about the GCSB and MD security breach, while NZ First is asking the PM to stand by his response to an earlier question about meetings with Maurice Williamson and Simon Power in 2011. Presumably Winston has something planned and this is a “gotcha” question.

Government Bills 3.00 pm – 6.00 pm and 7.30 pm – 10.00 pm

  1. Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products – Budget Measures) Amendment Bill – third reading
  2. Commerce Commission (International Co-operation, and Fees) Bill – third reading
  3. Taxation (Annual Rates, Returns Filing, and Remedial Matters) Bill – committee stage
  4. Legislation Bill – committee stage

The first two bills have both been divided at committee stage – the former into seven separate Bills and the latter into four. Both groups of Bills will still be considered at third reading together. The first has a full two hours allocated for their third reading. The second was interrupted 27 September, and 80 minutes of allocated time remain. Following that, the committee of the House will resume consideration of the Taxation (Annual Rates, Returns Filing, and Remedial Matters) Bill. Depending on how long this takes, they may begin the committee stage of the Legislation Bill.

The Customs and Excise (Tobacco Products—Budget Measures) Amendment Bill was introduced by Tariana Turia in May, and seeks to amend the Customs and Excise Act 1996 to make 4 cumulative 10% increases to the duties on all tobacco products. It was split into seven separate Bills at the committee stage with Labour’s support, but they indicated an intention to vote against six of the seven resulting Bills at third reading. The seven Bills have been allocated two hours total for their third reading.

The Commerce Commission (International Co-operation, and Fees) Bill deals with the operation of the Commerce Commission. The primary objective is to facilitate co-operation between the Commission and the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. It was divided into four bills at committee stage.

Introduced by Peter Dunne last year, the Taxation (Annual Rates, Returns Filing, and Remedial Matters) Bill makes various amendments to the requirements for filing and storing of tax returns and amends other acts and regulations such as the KiwiSaver Act 2006. At second reading it was opposed by the Greens and Mana.

The Legislation Bill was introduced by Chris Finlayson in 2010 to modernise and improve the law relating to the publication, availability, reprinting, revision, and official versions of legislation and to bring this law together in a single piece of legislation. It passed its second reading with unanimous support.

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30 Responses to “Parliament 16 October 2012”

  1. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    The answer to 11 should be a robust “No, I sacked him this very morning”.

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  2. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Why do I get the feeling that when 1 is asked, Shearer is going to get completely owned.

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  3. pacnum (6 comments) says:

    Hi, Im interested in finding out more on Goverment Bills .. and how they proceed.
    Specifically im interested in the Financial Markets Conduct Bill – which seems to have gone through it’s 1st reading.

    I cant seem to find out when the 2nd and 3rd readings are due ?

    Can someone point me in the right direction ??

    Cheers,

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  4. speters (108 comments) says:

    pacnum – you can get the day’s Order Paper from the Parliament website homepage on the left hand side. The SC reported the Financial Markets Conduct Bill back on 7 September, and its second reading is number 36 on the list of business, so probably won’t happen for at least the next few weeks.

    Every Bill also has its own page with links to relevant information. The one you want is here:

    http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Legislation/Bills/4/a/8/00DBHOH_BILL11150_1-Financial-Markets-Conduct-Bill.htm

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  5. Keeping Stock (10,253 comments) says:

    It’s almost a given that someone will seek an Urgent Debate on the MSD blunder, so the fun and games are highly likely to go on beyond the end of Question Time.

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  6. publicwatchdog (2,484 comments) says:

    Have just found the ‘devilish’ detail – what Winston Peter’s Question to the Prime Minister for Written Answer 3326 (2012) actually was………………..

    8 Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by his answer to my Question for Written Answer 3326 (2012)?

    3326 (2012). Rt Hon Winston Peters to the Prime Minister (07 May 2012): Did he have any meetings, in his capacity as Prime Minister, with either Hon Maurice Williamson or Hon Simon Power during the period 7 April-23 July; if so, on what date or dates and what was the nature of the discussion or discussions?

    Rt Hon John Key (Prime Minister) replied: Yes. I met with Hon Maurice Williamson on 7 June 2011 to talk about statistics and progress with the census in lights of its postponement following the Christchurch earthquake. I met with Hon Simon Power on 13 June 2011. There is no record of what was discussed at that meeting and I have no recollection of the discussion. I also met with him, Hons English, Joyce and Ryall and the external appointees regarding the Better Public Services Advisory & Governance Group on 6 July 2011.

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________

    errr….. where on earth is the transparency and accountability at the highest levels of public office – when there are no records kept of Ministerial meetings?

    (Given that New Zealand is ‘perceived’ to be ‘the least corrupt country in the world’ and all? )

    Rather a sharp contrast with the violations and attacks on the privacy of individual citizens – don’t you think?

    Compare

    Penny Bright
    ‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

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  7. ex-golfer (156 comments) says:

    Three thrown from the House before business even started. Mallard, Parker and Peters.
    This could be a very tetchy session.

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  8. publicwatchdog (2,484 comments) says:

    “Rt Hon John Key (Prime Minister) replied: Yes. I met with Hon Maurice Williamson on 7 June 2011 to talk about statistics and progress with the census in lights of its postponement following the Christchurch earthquake. I met with Hon Simon Power on 13 June 2011. There is no record of what was discussed at that meeting and I have no recollection of the discussion. ”

    How does this failure to ‘maintain full and accurate records’ of this above-mentioned meeting of Ministers, comply with the following statutory requirements of the NZ Public Records Act 2005, particularly s.3 (c) (i) and (ii)?

    PUBLIC RECORDS ACT 2005

    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2005/0040/latest/DLM345536.html

    3. Purposes of Act

    The purposes of this Act are—

    (a) to provide for the continuation of the repository of public archives called the National Archives with the name Archives New Zealand (Te Rua Mahara o te Kāwanatanga); and

    (b) to provide for the role of the Chief Archivist in developing and supporting government recordkeeping, including making independent determinations on the disposal of public records and certain local authority archives; and

    (c) to enable the Government to be held accountable by—

    (i) ensuring that full and accurate records of the affairs of central and local government are created and maintained; and

    (ii) providing for the preservation of, and public access to, records of long-term value; and

    (d) to enhance public confidence in the integrity of public records and local authority records; and

    (e) to provide an appropriate framework within which public offices and local authorities create and maintain public records and local authority records, as the case may be; and

    (f) through the systematic creation and preservation of public archives and local authority archives, to enhance the accessibility of records that are relevant to the historical and cultural heritage of New Zealand and to New Zealanders’ sense of their national identity; and

    (g) to encourage the spirit of partnership and goodwill envisaged by the Treaty of Waitangi (Te Tiriti o Waitangi), as provided for by section 7; and

    (h) to support the safekeeping of private records.

    ______________________________________________________________________________________________

    How records are kept in Merrill Lynch and the New York Federal Reserve, may not have the same legislative requirements – but now NZ Prime Minister John Key is in PUBLIC office and the ‘rules’ are different?

    Perhaps NZ Prime Minister John Key is simply ‘not fit for duty’?

    Penny Bright
    ‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

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  9. ex-golfer (156 comments) says:

    Hi Penny
    When did you last meet with Joe Carolan – and what was discussed?
    I look forward to your answer.

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  10. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    That was just an incredible post.

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  11. publicwatchdog (2,484 comments) says:

    errr…… are you ‘on topic’ ex-golfer?

    Unlike John Key – I’m not a Minister of the Crown – or hadn’t you noticed?

    :)

    Kind regards,

    Penny Bright
    ‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

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  12. ex-golfer (156 comments) says:

    Yes Penny – I had noticed.
    Despite your best efforts you never will be an elected official, either at a local or national government level.
    However, you constantly dribble on about transparency.
    Given your desire for transparency, I thought you might like to lessen the huge amount of hypocrisy in everything you post.
    Sadly I was wrong.
    Thank you for taking the time to reply.

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  13. ex-golfer (156 comments) says:

    Anyway – for Pennys sake, back on topic.
    Does anyone have any idea what the shouted out statement from the public gallery immediately following the parliamentary prayer was all about? And who was it?

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  14. pacnum (6 comments) says:

    Thanks, speters (62) Says:

    Im a bit new to this .. Cheers again,

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  15. BeaB (2,104 comments) says:

    Peters threw a tantrum which completely overshadowed Shearer’s limp attempt to have a go at the PM – who batted them all away like sandflies.

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  16. iMP (2,349 comments) says:

    The NZ and USA video scandals converged at 2pm today.

    http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/us-nz-scandals-converge-libya-dotcom

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  17. Paul Williams (879 comments) says:

    Who is in Parata’s office? She’s in desparate need of better preparation and training for Question Time. Just capably and credibly answering primary questions would be a start.

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  18. BeaB (2,104 comments) says:

    To be fair on her, the supplementary questions asked for material she wasn’t likely to know without some warning. I thought she was much better than usual.

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  19. gopolks (102 comments) says:

    Cant believe Labour. thought this was going to bring down John Key.

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  20. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    Haha

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  21. BeaB (2,104 comments) says:

    Shearer was a damp squib. Truly pathetic. No wonder Mallard and Parker tried frantically to create a diversion but upstaged as ever by Peters tanty.

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  22. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    The knives must be out, so when will the socialists roll Shearer? Personally, I believe they should keep him as “leader”.

    http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8548494/we-will-test-john-key-says-labour-leader

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  23. Paul Williams (879 comments) says:

    To be fair on her, the supplementary questions asked for material she wasn’t likely to know without some warning.

    That’s not what the Speaker thought. It’s certainly not what I think, quite the opposite in fact. Hipkins supplementaries contained no “gotcha’s”, rather he guessed, correctly, she’d be unable to answer the most obvious question in a sensible and clear manner.

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  24. Doug (408 comments) says:

    You can bet the team that is doing the MSD review would have been listening to the information that Socialist Cindy released in Parliament, she seemed to know an awful lot about the leaks. Makes you wonder if she has inside knowledge.

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  25. Paul Williams (879 comments) says:

    Doug, it’s on the press!

    The point is Bennett’s got form leaking public information, the name was leaked, Ng didn’t leak it and only the agency and the Minister’s office new his name. Are you familiar with the law of parssimony?

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  26. davidp (3,570 comments) says:

    Paul Williams>Ng didn’t leak it and only the agency and the Minister’s office new his name

    And anyone Bailey told. And anyone Ng told.

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  27. publicwatchdog (2,484 comments) says:

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1210/S00272/questions-and-answers-october-16.htm

    Here you go folks ………………..

    ” Hon John Banks—Confidence

    11. GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Leader—Labour) to the Prime Minister: Does he have confidence in Hon John Banks; if so, why?

    Rt Hon JOHN KEY (Prime Minister): Yes; because he is a hard-working Minister.

    Grant Robertson: Is it still his policy, as he told media on 30 April this year, that a Minister who lies or misleads about his actions would lose his confidence as Prime Minister?

    Rt Hon JOHN KEY: Yes.

    Grant Robertson: Does he think Mr Banks has met this standard, after he told the New Zealand Herald on 14 September that the police were responsible for his witness statement being withheld when, in fact, it was he who asked for it to be withheld?

    Rt Hon JOHN KEY: I have no knowledge of that. That is a matter for the Minister.

    Grant Robertson: I seek the leave of the House to table a letter from David P H Jones QC, Mr Banks’ lawyer, to the New Zealand Police, dated 10 August 2012, which says that disclosure of any material relating to Mr Banks is opposed.

    Mr SPEAKER: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is no objection. Document, by leave, laid on the Table of the House.

    Grant Robertson: Why is he hanging on to John Banks as a Minister, when sworn witness statements of others, and Mr Banks’ own actions, show that he has lied to New Zealanders, or is the Prime Minister simply prepared to put his own political interests ahead of the high ethical standards New Zealanders expect of Ministers?

    Rt Hon JOHN KEY: Because I accept the member’s word that he has complied with the law. ”

    Kind regards,

    Kind regards,

    Penny Bright
    ‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

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  28. Doug (408 comments) says:

    Who is this Penny Bright that wastes bandwidth? sounds like Penny Dull.

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  29. speters (108 comments) says:

    Very rarely has the self-proclaimed anti-corruption campaigner said anything of use but I have to agree with her here – it’s disgusting that Banks is still a Minister.

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  30. Reid (16,174 comments) says:

    it’s disgusting that Banks is still a Minister

    Oh yeah. Doubly so after the significant public disquiet over Hulun’s antics over Field and Peters, National aka Key promising to clean it up, making a show of doing that when firing Worth, which should have been done, then this act of convenience. Key’s proven himself to be a short-panted third form junior in the ethics dept of the Integrity Division in the 5th National govt. Not surprising, but disappointing. Doubly so, given that an Epsom by-election would have retained National’s majority, guaranteed and kept the moral high ground which rightly, is demanded by the thinking public, whom they supposedly serve.

    Key also seems a short-panter in the political strategic calculation arena too, in that it would be good for ACT to step outside for awhile and look themselves over and if they were real serious, come back but if not, see ya later. They’ve lost the fantastic vision Douglas founded the party on, this is obvious to all. Hide did kinda OK in a lukewarm way, but led it away from that, but nothing has replaced that fervour which is what needs to happen. But they won’t reinvent themselves as a one-man band. If the rellys find out a family member has cancer, they’ll rally round. That’s what would happen if ACT was in the wilderness. But if its just a slow imperceptible winding down of the clock with nothing dramatic to signal the downturn, ACT will just fade to grey, which is undeserving and unworthy for a party with the magnitude of the people it had and the vision it was founded upon.

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