The EU wins the Nobel Peace Prize

October 13th, 2012 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

The timing of this is even more strange than Obama winning it.  Don’t get me wrong – the has been a good success at stopping wars in Europe.  Mind you, I think WWII was the bigger factor.

But why give it to the EU now, in the middle of their economic meltdown? It looks like a sick joke, or a sympathy award.

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131 Responses to “The EU wins the Nobel Peace Prize”

  1. Jimbob (641 comments) says:

    Nobel, not really. More like the “Pinko Peace Prize”.

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  2. eszett (2,374 comments) says:

    But why give it to the EU now, in the middle of their economic meltdown?

    I agree on the “why now”, but what has the economic meltdown got to do with it?

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  3. metcalph (1,410 comments) says:

    In an alternate universe, the EU has won the Nobel Economics Prize.

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  4. kowtow (7,953 comments) says:

    The EU pretends it’s about peace.
    It is actually a cynical French exercise in controlling the Continent through subordinating German industry.

    But because the Germans work hard,save money and export real goods they are now in the driver’s seat. German guilt over WWs 1 and 2 prevents them from really exploiting their rightful place in Europe.

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  5. nasska (10,912 comments) says:

    I’d like to nominate my heading dog for the next Nobel Peace Prize……I’m sure that she has done more for the cause than the EU.

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  6. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    It’s obvious, isn’t it? It’s because… er… um…
    No, I give up.

    ‘The Nobel laureate receives a diploma, a medal and a document confirming the prize amount’

    Wonder if the individual countries will fight over who gets what?

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  7. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    The left have been steadily taking over and politicising our institutions for decades. (and thereby making them worthless)

    The Nobel Prize committee is just one more casualty in the left’s long war against our traditional culture.

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  8. thedavincimode (6,590 comments) says:

    The left have been steadily taking over and politicising our institutions for decades. (and thereby making them worthless)

    Thanks for noticing. But do try and keep up in future.

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  9. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Hope they give the money prize money to Greece and Spain and tell them to fuck off and then dissolve themselves – FFS

    and DPF please explain ” a great success in stopping wars” – what a crock

    the EU is nothing other than the labour party to the nth degree trying to control lots and lots of peoples lives

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  10. nasska (10,912 comments) says:

    thedavincimode

    At least he got there in the end.

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  11. Pita (373 comments) says:

    I think Daniel Hannan referenced it well with his “Satire is now obsolete” comment.

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  12. thedavincimode (6,590 comments) says:

    Yes nasska. Probably a bit busy previously getting it in the end.

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  13. nasska (10,912 comments) says:

    The CCCP rewards it’s acolytes well Davinci.

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  14. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Nasska the institutions aren’t worthless to the lefties. Every year the budgets of many government departments, universities, and other institutes represent billions of dollars of extra campaign finance to the parties of the left.

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  15. tom hunter (4,568 comments) says:

    At least the Nobel Committee awarded Obama the Peace Prize before he failed!

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  16. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Don’t get me wrong – the EU has been a good success at stopping wars

    Based on what evidence?

    The EU is causing division and conflict all over Europe. This is well reported, even in our NZ Lefty media bubble. It is a remarkable statement to make. The EU is an unelected body of dictators that remove the sovereign rights of the countries that sign up to this terrible socialist construct.

    The fact that there has not (yet) been a major war, in Europe, can not be attributed to the EU. Any more than the fact there has been no major meteor strikes since the EU was formed.

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  17. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Two chattering losers who profess to be opposed to the left but who are really, in their abject submission to so many of the left’s social constructs, little more than enablers.

    The Nobel Prize may have once been what its names implies, but since the left have perverted it, it is only worthy of ridicule.

    And the likes of Nasska and Davinci, blind narcissists to the left’s steady destruction of everything that was ever worth anything, have stood around giggling and holding hands while it all happened.

    And even as it goes on, they still refuse to admit that the left’s long term objective is to completely reform our society into a dictatorship of the proletariat, the ambition Marx has always told them to aim for.

    All done with gradualism, bit by bit by bit, and in one hundred years or perhaps even less, when all future generations are in chains, they will have the likes of Nasska and Davinci, two sneering blind and ignorant fools, to thank for it.

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  18. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Nasska was criticising the left rb!

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  19. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Nobel prizes are a fucking joke. Zero credibility….

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  20. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Nasska is the left. How can he criticise it? He sneers at anyone who really opposes his Christian hating Marxist buddies. He’s an ignorant fool and a slave to the Progressives and his masters use him as they wish as he gaily dances to their music. Like Davinci, the kind of easily manipulated enabler the commies are always so grateful for. Without those two and their ilk, their task would be so much harder.

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  21. nasska (10,912 comments) says:

    Kevin

    On Planet Redbaiter the meaning of Left & Right become a little confused. Because of this he thinks that everybody hates him because he’s so universally liked.

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  22. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    I agree the eu has just become another politicians feeding trough.

    Taking cases to the european court of human rights, when your country’s highest court has tossed out the case, at enormous expense to taxpayers is an abomination.

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  23. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    >The Nobel Prize may have once been what its names implies,

    ????
    That it is something to do with dynamite?

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  24. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Notice how both Nasska and Davinci immediately reach for the Alinsky device of ridicule without even knowing they’re doing it? Like all such braindead indoctrinated dumbarses they can’t even see how in their blindness, they’ve given the left everything they ever wanted.

    Such useful idiots have white anted western civilisation for the Marxists for decades now and they are so dull in intellect they won’t even know how or when they’ve given it up even when its all gone.

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  25. Griff (7,001 comments) says:

    Weddy thinks that cccp is to the right end of the political spectrum yet has so far failed to work out that with its anti homo consercvonuttery and destined to failure attempts to make us all f undies. its actually as right as Winston first
    Weddy politics one eyed clueless moron.

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  26. nasska (10,912 comments) says:

    The political Right, or at least it’s saner representatives, & I agree on much Baiter Boy. It’s you I can’t stand. :)

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  27. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Nobel doesn’t mean dynamite just as it doesn’t mean “noble”

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  28. Andrei (2,532 comments) says:

    the EU has been a good success at stopping wars in Europe.

    Forgotten the Yugoslav wars, David?

    Where the Germans succeeded in dividing Yugoslavia into seven “Nations” to be absorbed into the fourth Reich piecemeal with the help of American bombers and cruise missiles, partitioning it more or less the same way the Nazis did during WW2.

    And then had the gall to put the legitimate President of that country on trial for trying to hold his country together.

    Even today they are trying to impose Western European pathologies on the Orthodox Serbs who are quite correctly resisting

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  29. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    “Weddy thinks..”

    Thanks for the laff Griff. The assumption that a mental child like you could really latch on to what an adult may be thinking is something that is really funny.

    Grief, you’re so limited in your political perspectives and full of such old and tired ideas you might as well have been buried with Jimi Hendrix.

    I’ll bet your one of those dopey old losers wearing denim and long grey hair (with a bald patch in the middle) that I see happily wending their way along the footpath to the dole office as I pass through those slowly dying NZ country towns.

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  30. Scott Chris (5,981 comments) says:

    Think of it this way. Since the year dot, Europeans have been at war with one another – except these last 60 years or so.

    So good on them. Congratulations. And bah humbug to the rest of yous.

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  31. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    >Nobel doesn’t mean dynamite just as it doesn’t mean “noble”

    Not literally, obviously. But old Alfie did invent the prize after a guilt trip about inventing the bangy stuff.

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  32. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    “The political Right, or at least it’s saner representatives, & I agree on much Baiter Boy. It’s you I can’t stand.”

    Well, at least I can take some satisfaction in that I’m achieved that prominence in your mind. (as tiny as it is)

    To me, you’ll never amount to anything more that one of the great dull sludgy grey mass of dumbfucks who think they are right wing but in their ignorant and abject submission to every left wing cultural strategy out there are those most responsible for blindly gifting our culture and thereby our political structures to the left.

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  33. Griff (7,001 comments) says:

    weddy
    I have worn a number one for the last thirty years I spend my time at a bach on one of the nicest beaches in north land or in Auckland or on my yacht
    I don’t own either a denim shirt or jacket And I have been project managing building or landscaping for the last ten years
    Conservonuttery is the failed policys from the fifty’s Guess who has not changed?

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  34. thedavincimode (6,590 comments) says:

    Trade evidently a bit slow over at baiterbog. Or has it come to a complete standstill given the time spent over here by the Great Bogger? Possibly also cranky because of blisters from his new high heels.

    at least I can take some satisfaction in that I’m achieved that prominence in your mind

    Yes, inevitably when I’m stepping over something unpleasant.

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  35. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Yeah sure Grief, and you’ve got an IQ of 140. Fuck of you loser with your patronising and transparent attempts at deceit. You have less credibility than Fidel Castro’s Dept of Education.

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  36. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Davinci would know about blisters from high heels, running in circles around the local public toilets all night.

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  37. thedavincimode (6,590 comments) says:

    The Great Bogger now talks of credibility. At least he’s now funny again.

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  38. thedavincimode (6,590 comments) says:

    You did that gag yesterday ‘baitey. New material please or are you so devoid of original thought that I need to write them for you?

    Fuck of [sic] you loser

    More humour – ahh, the irony …

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  39. Sonny Blount (1,847 comments) says:

    Scott Chris (4,541) Says:
    October 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am
    Think of it this way. Since the year dot, Europeans have been at war with one another – except these last 60 years or so.

    So good on them. Congratulations. And bah humbug to the rest of yous.

    Er. The Bosnian War Scott? Srebrenica massacre?

    Any reduction in warfare is Europe is nothing to do with the EU. It’s thanks to WWII and the Cold War.

    Fewer wars have broken out in North America during the time of the EU, why not give the Nobel Peace Prize to NAFTA?

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  40. thedavincimode (6,590 comments) says:

    exactly – or the Cook Islands …?

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  41. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Haha now that is funny Davinci.

    The thought that a tired old worn out old fag like you could come up with something new.

    How about you stop trying so hard to be funny and address the thread topic, that being the decay of our public institutions and the reasons for that decay. (you actually)

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  42. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Al Gore got one for telling lies.

    Obama got one for being black.

    Mandela, the convicted terrorist, who turned SA into the murder, rape and robbery capital of the world and who systematically murdered and tortured his political opponents, got one.

    So I guess the corrupt hard line socialist EU is as deserving as any other entity.

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  43. Fairfacts Media (371 comments) says:

    Does anybody recall an organisations called NATO?
    It has been a bit quiet lately, but that defence organisation might well have done most to stop the European countries from fighting each other.
    Dear me David, you do seem to have swalled too much EUSSR propoganda over the years, as have the Nobel Prize Committee.
    At the moment the EUSSR seems to be doing much to foment nationalism and division across many European states at the moment.
    Look at how the Greeks are keen to portray Angela Merkel as a new Adolf Hitler.

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  44. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Yes just like our knighthoods and damehoods are generally given to those who have shafted the country hardest, what’s new?

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  45. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Gidday Fairfacts. Where you been? Good to see you back.

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  46. ChardonnayGuy (1,187 comments) says:

    To be fair, they should never have let Greece into the Euro to begin with.

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  47. nasska (10,912 comments) says:

    Watch out Fairfacts. Reddy seeks a ‘friend’. :)

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  48. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    An entirely discredited prize. Even more so, after being awarded to the Messiah.

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  49. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Gawd Nasska, its amazing to me that someone can actually be so lame and not be embarrassed about it.

    (Can’t you at least stop using the sick making smiley faces?)

    Sorry Fairfacts, you need to understand that Kiwiblog is Nasska’s own private chat room.

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  50. Griff (7,001 comments) says:

    Weedy and the same old toothless old fart logic.
    Where is the post of DPF talking about decay of our public institutions?
    the Nobel prize is not a public undertaking its as far as I know a private trust.
    Giving the prize to the USA of warfare or the Eu of bureaucracy is a farce.
    So was giving it to N Mandala of necktyrefire fame .
    So you could say lefty social post-modernist nutjob idiots have taken over.
    That is distinct from us to the right that are socially liberal something that you seem totally unaware of
    We don’t expect any thing more from a conservonutter like you

    ps :lol:

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  51. big bruv (13,562 comments) says:

    “Mandela, the convicted terrorist, who turned SA into the murder, rape and robbery capital of the world and who systematically murdered and tortured his political opponents, got one.”

    Ha ha…fantastic!

    Because SA was such a paradise before Mandela was released from prison aye. I guess those blacks just did not know how good they had it under apartheid.

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  52. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Key is compromise, amnesiac to the point of early Alzheimer’s and can’t seem to thnk straight. Makes me wonder if he’s “distracted”.

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  53. kowtow (7,953 comments) says:

    I don’t think anyone claimed SA was a paradise under the previous regime. Under St Nelson Mandela’s and black successives though it has become what kea and griff described it as.
    Many former colonial territories ,probably fair to say most,did do better under bwana.

    A limited democracy is probably better than an African kleptocracy.

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  54. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    “That is distinct from us to the right that are socially liberal”

    Where is the liberalism? Look around you you sad simple fuckwit. You have ceded every principle of freedom again and again and again and we now suffer under a totalitarian Marxist/ Progressive regime and it all happened when you were supposedly out there caring about freedom.

    You lame dopey old fuckwit, you were played like a violin. There is no freedom, its almost all been taken, it continues to be taken, and its you that has given it up and continues to give it up.

    You don’t stand for freedom. You don’t stand for anything. You are a grovelling spineless creature completely mesmerized by the left and their assault on our freedom and our culture and our civilisation.

    Who gave it up if it wasn’t you you blind loser???

    Who is most responsible for the Nobel Prize becoming a farce? For our education system being a commie indoctrination process? For our media becoming a Goebells style propaganda organisation?

    I’ll tell you.

    You are you blind fuckwit. It all happened on your watch and you didn’t just stand there and let it happen, you did everything you could to assist. Don’t preach to me about your “liberalism” you dumbfuck manipulated intolerant POS. You have given everything that was ever important to freedom and our civilisation up and you’ve done it with a stupid gormless grin on your face.

    Now fuck off with your childlike lame whining. You’re an impostor and a loser and I’ve spent far too much time on your facile infantile whining.

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  55. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    “Mandela, the convicted terrorist, who turned SA into the murder, rape and robbery capital of the world and who systematically murdered and tortured his political opponents, got one.”

    Ha ha…fantastic!

    Because SA was such a paradise before Mandela was released from prison aye. I guess those blacks just did not know how good they had it under apartheid.

    Well the millions of blacks who immigrated to apartheid SA seemed to think it was a paradise, compared to the majority black run countries. They had greater personal safety and security, along with a chance to advance themselves economically. All that is gone now.

    I note the treatment of refugees from the other former bread basket (now another African basket case) Zimbabwe. Mandelas wonderful people stuck burning tyres over them and burnt them to death in the street. This “necklacing” is a legacy of Mandela’s, who used it often against black political opponents. His savage wife carried it on while the vile prick was in jail. He should be hung, not awarded.

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  56. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    People love to criticise American foreign policy unfairly. But one of their genuine post war mistakes was supporting African liberation struggles just to stick it to Russia, instead of supporting a more graded transition that Britain wanted.

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  57. thedavincimode (6,590 comments) says:

    Kiwiblog is Nasska’s own private chat room.

    Really? And here’s me thinking it was your toilet old dear …

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  58. LabourDoesntWork (286 comments) says:

    Just as Obama proves truly anyone REALLY CAN become president afterall; the fascist EU, whose peace was bought by NATO’s strength, proves truly anyone can win the Nobel Peace prize.

    The era of blind optimism and the affirmative action presidency is upon us. Encouraging, ain’t it?

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  59. Griff (7,001 comments) says:

    FREEDOM?
    You do not advocate freedom baiter you seek to inflict you version of morality on all. That is not freedom by any means because the only way you will get the majority to live like you want is at the point of a gun. If you were in charge NZ would become the Cambodia of conservonuttery
    :lol:.

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  60. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    The prime principle of Conservatism is that government should be small weak and practically unnoticeable. Yet you in your ignorance think we will impose our will at gunpoint.

    You’re a simple child Grief, a crosswired dimwitted loser and enabler who will never get it. Fuck off.

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  61. Griff (7,001 comments) says:

    prime principle of Conservatism is that government should be small weak and practically unnoticeable
    So why do you long for social control?
    recognise this list adolf baiter
    Red triangle—political prisoners: liberals, communists, trade unionists, royalists, social democrats and socialists, Freemasons, anarchists.
    Green triangle— “professional criminals” (convicts, often Kapos).
    Blue triangle—foreign forced laborers, emigrants.
    Purple triangle—Bible Students, a term taken from a name of, and primarily referring to, Jehovah’s Witnesses, though a very small number of pacifists and members of other religious organizations were also imprisoned under this classification
    Pink triangle—sexual offenders, mostly homosexual men but rarely rapists, zoophiles and paedophiles
    Black triangle—people who were deemed “asocial elements” and “work shy” including
    Roma (Gypsies), who were later assigned a brown triangle
    The mentally ill
    Alcoholics
    Vagrants and beggars
    Pacifists
    Conscription resisters
    Prostitutes[
    Drug addicts
    Brown triangle—Roma (Gypsies) (previously wore the black triangle).
    Uninverted red triangle—an enemy POW, spy or a deserter.

    Of course you would have got a black and a red triangle :lol:

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  62. Seán (397 comments) says:

    The right should be taking advantage of the EU concept, not scorning it. Free movement of labour, ease of doing business and a common currency are all tools to promote growth (yes there have been hiccups and even wrong turns). Yet the right only seems to focus on big government and sovereignty issues. Mhhhh. These may be reasonable concerns, but are they big enough to cancel out the benefits? No. Focus on improving the model rather than continuously complaining. Open markets are the friend of the right. Shape it as it should be, stop bitching.

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  63. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    So you believe in small weak government Red?

    I doubt it. You think the government should concern its self with what homos do in the bedroom and other minor drivel.

    You focus on details (of difference) and over look considerable common ground. You think that anyone who does not agree with ALL your ideas is a communist.

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  64. kowtow (7,953 comments) says:

    sean
    You’re talking about the Common Market or EEC ,the politicians and unelected bureaucrats in Brussels etc have moved way beyond that to a European superstate that I think very few Europeans really want.

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  65. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Sean, the EU is not required for free trade and open markets.

    The EU imposes numerous restrictions on trade and commerce. A few minutes of Googling will provide you with the evidence of this. The EU is not about economics or preventing war. It is about imposing a socialist regime on Europe, by stealth. It over rides the democratically elected leaders of member states. It is about power and control. Nothing else.

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  66. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    “So why do you long for social control?”

    I’ll spend one more comment on trying to get through your thick skull you stupid pig ignorant Progressive dildo.

    You have the fucking nerve to complain of longing for social control when you and other Progressives have worked hard to produce a society where freedom of thought and speech is daily under greater and greater threat than it has ever been?

    Where anyone who steps outside the progressive norm is hounded by intrusive social legislation and its baying hounds in public?

    Where Slipper loses his job for saying vagina’s look like mussels in their shell? Where people are jailed for insulting queers? Where giving offense to anyone on any issue is tantamount to assaulting them?

    This is the “liberal” society that you have developed?

    For fuck’s sake, you are not liberals, you are authoritarians in disguise seeking to exact serious social punishment on anyone who challenges your ascendancy. You attempt to impose an authoritarian progressive viewpoint and you use our schools and our media and our parliament and our bureaucracy to do all this and you say its Conservatives who want to force their views on everyone??

    For fucks sake how blind can you be to your own rank stupid dull hypocrisy?

    Here is the difference. Sure, Conservatives believe in taking a moral stand. In principles and rules. But it is a personal thing. Government is there to protect the realm and to record births deaths marriage and land transfers and to do very little else. For example, it is not the purpose of government to force some fucked in the head liberal’s (like you) idea of “equality” upon society.

    You Grief can live by whatever principles you want, but do not presume to take away my freedom to judge you on the way you live your life if within my own personal boundaries I choose to do that.

    Taking away freedom is what you progressives are all about. You’ve done it under the guise of “liberalism” and you have done it for decades, and you will continue to do it if someone doesn’t stop you.

    The real problem we face is dealing with low intellect fools like you, so full of shit and ignorance and bigotry and misinformation you will never get it.

    You in your ignorance and bigotry are the sick legacy of decades of liberalism. The social spawn of hypocrisy married to deceit, and it is your ilk that have brought us to where we are today. You assert your regard for liberty but every day you are taking it away inch by inch by inch by inch.

    “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.”

    – Norman Thomas, American socialist

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  67. Simon Arnold (100 comments) says:

    It’s the amount of chocolate they eat:

    “Chocolate Consumption, Cognitive Function, and Nobel Laureates” Franz H. Messerli, M.D. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMon1211064

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  68. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    It is the left that wants free movement of labour because they believe we should all be brought down to the same level. They want world government out of the United Nations and the eu is a step in that direction. Although it is very hard to distinguish the left wing political elite and the wealthy elite because the collude so much these days.

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  69. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Kea, you and your ignorance placed the steps that Barack Obama used in his climb to the presidency of the USA, and you therefore helped him in his mission to destroy a country founded on freedom.

    Don’t preach to me about liberty. Its you and your ilk that have not only failed to fight for it, you actively encouraged and supplicated yourself to those who would destroy it.

    Obama, a communist sitting in the White House, a house built by men who fought and gave up everything to escape what Obama preaches, is the pinnacle so far of your achievements.

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  70. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Nothing the Chimp does can change this magnificent speech Red! :)

    “Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

    Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

    But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate—we cannot consecrate—we cannot hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom— and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

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  71. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Red your losing it old sport.

    I regard Obama as a waste of space and his supporters as idiots and liars. I have never met an Obama supporter who was not an ignorant sack of shit.

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  72. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Hard to believe we now have a second civil war but the forces of darkness will not prevail! :)

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  73. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    But why give it to the EU now, in the middle of their economic meltdown?

    How misinformed can you get?

    The vast majority of the countries of the EU is well governed and outside of the few countries who’s populace was permitted to overload with debt, is not anywhere near economic meltdown.

    The true test as regards the economic health of the EU will be whether the Eurozone, a laudable but problematic project, can unite to enable the people of the troubled countries to prosper or whether a misplaced ‘morality’ imperative will see tens of millions mired in misery for years to come.

    And one for the Redbaiters of this world: if some governments had had the sense and the courage to regulate their bank lending and their citizens borrowings to keep within the realms of prudence, this ‘crisis’ would never had happened.

    And surely the current and temporary economic situation is completely irrelevant to awarding the Nobel Peace Prize (benighted as it may be) to a project that has largely bought peace to a continent continually at war for millennia. In fact, that the EU remains at peace (geopolitically) in the face of the ‘meltdown’ is a factor in favor of the award!

    But NATO’s actions outside the continent is another matter.

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  74. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    What’s your current position on “Kill the Jews” Luc? :)

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  75. Seán (397 comments) says:

    Kowtow – even bureaucrats in NZ are unelected. Probably most other places as well.

    Kea – when you say the EU is “imposing a socialist regime on Europe”…we got your colours. Especially since the right holds the majority in the European Parliament. Fact is, within members, restrictions are much less than before. This is a boon for business and growth. You should stop with your ideologically driven nonsense (starting to sound like a Greenie but on the other extreme), and focus on how the right should dominate the agenda in a growth-friendly environment that the EU has established.

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  76. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    It is amazing what people presume the right to be. If you believe that the governments primary role is defence, law and order and the law should treat everyone equally. We want our taxes to be spent wisely and the most important people to be rewarded are those who earn the money. We want the freedom to choose what we spend our money on. For that we are labelled far right neoliberals in this Orwellian nightmare we are forced to live in.

    Most would not agree with free movement of labour flooding our borders as,that would destroy any hope of ever helping the poor people of the world because we would be weak and poor ourselves. Oh that’s right, we now are because of the damage done by the collusion between the political elite.

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  77. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    In fact, that the EU remains at peace (geopolitically) in the face of the ‘meltdown’ is a factor in favor of the award!

    The EU countries are not at peace and things are getting (much) worse.

    You provide no evidence that the EU is responsible for less wars.

    The EU is not required for free trade or co-operation in Europe. Its only purpose is to impose laws and regulations on other countries. It is a nest of evil socialists craving power and control. The head of this vile bunch is a Maoist for gods sake!

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  78. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    JB

    The same on killing anyone. Don’t do it.

    You?

    What’s your current position on “Kill the Muslims” JB? ;-)

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  79. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    “I regard Obama as a waste of space and his supporters as idiots and liars. I have never met an Obama supporter who was not an ignorant sack of shit.”

    You’re missing the point. Obama was elected because white people wanted to show how “liberal” they are.

    IOW, in order to conform to the state mandated liberal mindset, and being so desperate to do so, they elected a communist to the White House. The would rather elect a communist than be thought of as racist.

    Don’t you see where its going? How thought and speech is being shaped as Norman Thomas predicted.

    If people like you Grief and Nasska and Davinci are not stopped there will be concentration camps being built in twenty years for people like me.

    How do I know this?

    I only have to look at your record over the last twenty years and project it forward another twenty years. As misguided protectors of freedom you have done nothing but aid and abet those who would destroy it.

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  80. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    Kea, correlation is not causation, that is true, but it’s still pretty good prima facie evidence.

    Do you have any evidence for a contrary point of view?

    Your dribbling about socialism in the face of the most successful multilateral capitalist project in the history of the world is stunning in its ignorance.

    Regulated capitalism and progressive taxation is the pathway to prosperity for democratic societies, Kea. Anything else leads to totalitarianism and mass suffering.

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  81. Seán (397 comments) says:

    Kea said: “The EU is not required for free trade or co-operation in Europe.”

    Maybe not, but that is exactly what it has done, so what’s your problem? You don’t like free trade?

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  82. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Same as you Luc. Should have done it a long, long time ago! :)

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  83. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Regulated capitalism and progressive taxation is the pathway to prosperity for democratic societies, Kea. Anything else leads to totalitarianism and mass suffering.

    Totalitarianism is the number one goal of the EU. I wonder just how much you really know about the EU.

    The citizens of most member states had no vote on membership. Once they become members, the democratically elected representatives (of the member states) are dictated to by un-elected EU members.

    Face it Luc, its a big step towards a one world government. It is pure totalitarianism. I wonder if you would be so approving of the EU if it was more right leaning, rather than the communist organ it is now, even if it achieved all the things you seem so approving of?

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  84. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Sort of like MMP then Kea? :)

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  85. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Maybe not, but that is exactly what it has done, so what’s your problem? You don’t like free trade?

    There is nothing “free” about the EU. Do some basic research on the requirements of member states and get back to me.

    This is the same sort of freedom member states had under the USSR. What a great success that was !

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  86. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Course the EU was only formed so the sadarse europeans could compete with the might of the USA.

    Crappy Airbus etc.

    Wonder where that scenario fits in today

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  87. Seán (397 comments) says:

    There is nothing “free” about the EU.

    Errr Kea, maybe you should live here and try it out (cross border trade vs decades ago) rather than shout from your ideological cave in NZ.

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  88. Seán (397 comments) says:

    Johnboy – time to update:

    Airbus in America: Designed in Toulouse, made in Mobile

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  89. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    False comparison Sean.

    It does not require a central (un-elected) government to achieve cross border trade.

    The fact somethings have become easier, does not justify the existence of the EU.

    Your reasoning is faulty and you have provided no convincing argument to support your position. You clearly have other reasons for supporting the EU. I suspect the real reason is you are a socialist who believes your views should be forced on others. It shows.

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  90. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Fucking sad Sean. It’s like MG’s being built by the Chinks! :)

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  91. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Still crap is crap no matter where it’s created! :)

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  92. Seán (397 comments) says:

    Kea – au contraire, I am no socialist but consider myself centre-right. I believe in free movement of labour and trade and – for all its faults – the EU has provided this. What I despise is socialists that promote protectionism and far-right idealists that focus on impractical ideology. Get into the real world. Now.

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  93. Seán (397 comments) says:

    Johnboy said:

    “Fucking sad Sean. It’s like MG’s being built by the Chinks! “

    Good luck with that line of argument. I am sure the executives at Airbus are listening to you….

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  94. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Ok Sean, but you fail to convince me that the EU is the only, or best, way of achieving those goals.

    You are the one who needs to “get into the real world” if you can not see the far-left ideology of the EU. You only have to look at the political history of many of its members. Its no secret and you can have no excuse for your ignorance of this fact.

    You are judging the EU based on very narrow criteria and ignoring all the bad bits. Next you will be claiming the USSR was a great idea because of its tractor and potato production.

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  95. Luc Hansen (4,573 comments) says:

    Kea, your myopic vision of the EU simply belies reality. All member countries joined with the support of its voters via referenda. Other countries are lining up to join it and the Eurozone. It ain’t some vast left wing conspiracy, despite what your free radical neurons are telling you.

    Sean, do remember that protectionism and currency manipulation are two sides of the same coin. Germany benefited immensely from the creation of the Euro in that the value of the Euro more reflects the weakness of many member nations than the strength of one, Germany. Southern Europe has been providing cover for Germany to accumulate massive trade surpluses.

    The lesson here is that appeals to simplistic ideological models do not do justice to the complexities of the real world.

    Now I’m off to let my four year old play in that real world ;-)

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  96. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    The USSR was great because of Lada’s

    A man goes into a service-station and asks “Can I have a windscreen-wiper for my Lada?”

    “Okay” replied the man in the garage, “it seems a fair swap”.

    Want to buy the new 16-valve Lada?

    8 in the engine, and 8 in the radio.

    What’s the difference between a Jehovah’s Witness and a Lada?

    You can shut the door on a Jehovah’s Witness.

    From a newspaper: “To the person who stole my Lada in minus 10 degrees of frost. Keep the Lada, but please tell me how the hell you started it!”

    There is a big competition at my local pub -

    First prize is a Lada,

    Second prize is two Ladas.

    What do you call a Lada in the winter?

    A freezer.

    What do you call a Lada in the summer?

    An oven.

    *This one can actually be true; with age or neglect the heater-valve cable can sieze open if not excersised regularly.

    How do you double the value of a Lada?

    Fill the petrol tank.

    What is the maximum acceleration of a Lada?

    9.8 m/s². Only in the downward direction, however.

    A kid is walking down the road when a car pulls up beside him.

    The window winds down and a middle-aged man peers out and says “Come into the car and I’ll take you for a drive.”

    The kid refuses and walks on.

    The car follows him and pulls up again.

    “C’mon” says the driver “Hop in and I’ll give you a packet of Smarties”.

    Again the kid refuses and walks away.

    The car follows him and pulls up beside him again.

    The driver steps out and says, “If you come for a drive I’ll give you all the sweets you want”.

    The kid turns around and says, “Look Dad, you bought the bloody Lada, now you deal with it!”

    What happens if you apply rust remover to a Lada?

    The Lada disappears.

    Don’t forget the Lada emergency get-you-home kit:

    Walking boots & a map.

    What occupies the last 16 pages of the Lada User’s Manual?

    The bus and train timetables.

    Why is there light under the Lada’s bonnet (aka hood)?

    So you can fix it 24 hours a day.

    *There really is a light under a Lada’s bonnet. Shame most of them have usually been pinched by previous owners for other cars.

    How many people does it take to build a Lada?

    Four. Two to fold, and two to paste.

    How do you reduce the wait for delivery of your new Lada?

    Bring back political crime in Russia

    How do you tell if your Lada is made by prisoners or ordinary underpaid Russian workers?

    The car assembled by prisioners has nothing missing.

    How do you know that your Lada has been burglarized?

    Nothing is missing.

    Did you hear about the bloke who had his Lada broken into?

    The thieves put him a radio in!

    How do you make a policeman laugh?

    Tell him your Lada just got stolen!

    How else can you tell if your Lada was built by prisoners?

    Once it leaves the factory it runs. And runs and runs…

    Why should you never try to assemble a Lada without being drunk?

    You will get an AK47.

    How do two Lada drivers recognise each other?

    It’s easy… They already met at the garage this morning.

    How can you tell a man driving a Lada?

    He wears dark sunglasses.

    How can you tell a Lada drivers from the other people wearing dark sunglasses?

    They don’t have white canes.

    How do you recognise a Lada Sport?

    When the driver is wearing running shoes.

    How do you avoid speeding tickets?

    Buy a Lada

    A bloke was driving up the motorway in his Lada.

    Suddenly there is a pop and a bang and the Lada starts to loose speed quickly so he pulls off to the hard shoulder.

    A few minutes later a Porsche pulls up in front of them and a bloke jumps out.

    “Do you want a tow mate?” he says, “Yes please” the Lada driver replies.

    “Ok, but if I go too fast put your indicator on.”

    So the two men set off and after about ten minutes a Ferrari pulls up alongside the Porsche and they start to race, forgetting the poor Lada behind.

    Finally they take an exit to a little village and zoom past a little pub with a man standing outside it with his pint in his hand.

    This bloke runs inside to his friends and blurts out;

    “You’ll never guess what I have just seen!

    I saw a Ferrari and Porsche racing at 200mph – and a Lada indicating to overtake!”

    What do you call a Lada at the top of a hill?

    A miracle.

    What do you call several Ladas at the top of a hill?

    A scrapheap (aka junkyard).

    What do you call 100 Ladas at the top of a hill?

    A car factory.

    What do you call a Lada driver who says he has a speeding ticket?

    A liar.

    What is the similarity between a Lada and a bathtub?

    You cannot step out of either one in a public place.

    What’s the difference between a Lada and a sheep?

    It’s less embarrassing being caught getting out the back of a sheep.

    What’s the difference between a Lada and a golf ball?

    You can drive a golf ball 200 metres.

    What is the similarity between a Lada and a magic wand?

    They both only work in the adventures.

    Man buys a Lada but after only one day of ownership returns it to the garage.

    “It’s no good mate, the car’s no good for me” says the man

    “Why not?” asks the car dealer.

    “See that steep hill over there?” says the man pointing

    “Well it will only get up to seventy five up there!”

    “That’s not bad really sir, for a Lada especially. I can’t see a problem with that”

    “Trouble is” said the man, “I live at ninety five!”

    What do you call a Lada with a sunroof?

    A rubbish bin.

    What do you call a convertible Lada?

    A skip (aka dumpster)

    How many people in a Lada?

    One. The other three are pushing.

    What do you call the shock absorbers on a Lada?

    Passengers.

    How do you overtake a Lada?

    Walk.

    What is the difference between a Lada and the flu?

    You can get rid of the flu.

    How do you know if your Lada is environmental friendly?

    It doesn’t start.

    How can you tell if your Lada is of Russian manufacture?

    It can run on vodka.

    What does the trip counter in the Lada say when it is passing 10,000 miles?

    “Game Over”

    What’s the definition of an optimist?

    The owner of a Lada with an alarm system.

    The owner of a Lada with a radar detector.

    The owner of a Lada with a trailer hitch.

    Somewhere in the middle of Spain, a Lada is driving along and meets a donkey.

    The donkey, never having seen a Lada before, asks: “What are you?”

    The Lada: “I am a car. What are you?”

    The donkey: “Hahahaha… I’m a horse.”

    What do you call a Lada with twin exhaust pipes?

    A wheelbarrow.

    What is a must-have before driving a Lada?

    Life insurance

    What’s the difference between a Lada and tickets for an Oasis concert?

    Oasis tickets go fast!

    Why do Ladas have a rear wash-wipe?

    To remove the flies that crash into them.

    Why do Ladas need two spare wheels?

    So you can cycle home.

    Why do Ladas have heated rear windows?

    To keep your hands warm whilst pushing them.

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  97. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    The lesson here is that appeals to simplistic ideological models do not do justice to the complexities of the real world.

    I would not consider opposition to the removal of a nations sovereign rights and the establishment of an international central dictatorship simplistic.

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  98. Seán (397 comments) says:

    Kea – I would not say that the EU has a far-left ideology when the current parliament is in favour of the right. But even despite the current make up of the EU parliament, the EU has moved to what we on the right have always known – tariffs are bad, free trade is good. This fundamental fact bugs the left and so be it. But on the right we must encourage the opening of borders, to encourage growth, new jobs and the resultant lifting of those out of poverty.

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  99. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Here is an example of the “free trade” supported by Sean and Luc:

    EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    EU officials concluded that, following a three-year investigation, there was no evidence to prove the previously undisputed fact.
    Producers of bottled water are now forbidden by law from making the claim and will face a two-year jail sentence if they defy the edict, which comes into force in the UK next month.

    This is an example of the “freedom” of trade you can expect under the EU. They make hundreds of demands on how business is done, right down to the size of glass of beer etc. They also make demands on what type of laws are passed, gay rights and anything else they feel like.

    On what planet is this considered freedom?

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  100. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Di Hydrogen Monoxide of course, does prevent dehydration and will be able to be advertised under EU law to that effect Kea. :)

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  101. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    “Regulated capitalism and progressive taxation is the pathway to prosperity for democratic societies, Kea. Anything else leads to totalitarianism and mass suffering.”

    I want what Lucs having. I dream of it.

    “From each according to their ability, to each according to their (perceived) need” is much closer to what we’ve got.

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  102. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    “I want what Lucs having. I dream of it.”

    You dream of dead Jews Kevin?

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  103. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Here is another example of Sean’s “boon for business”

    Stilton villagers banned from using own name on cheese
    The Cambridgeshire village of Stilton is resuming manufacture of the famous cheese almost 300 years after it was first created – despite an EU ban on the use of the name.Villagers are being forced to come up with a new title for the blue-veined cheese following a “ridiculous” ruling that prevents it officially being made outside three East Midlands counties.

    They have also banned some types of cheese outright !

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  104. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Cheese that can just fly and is not called Airbuscheese will be one! :)

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  105. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Di Hydrogen Monoxide of course, does prevent dehydration and will be able to be advertised under EU law to that effect Kea.

    You could go to jail ( up to two years) for that statement in an EU country Johnboy.

    How can anybody defend this evil organisation? I have to wonder what makes a person want to do these things to others. What would it take to show these people that socialism does not work? Over a 100 million dead and millions more living bleak grey oppressed lives, yet we still have people supporting it.

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  106. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    “more living bleak grey oppressed lives, yet we still have people supporting it.”

    I take it you are not a Labour/Greens supporter then Kea? :)

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  107. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Shhh Johnboy you’ll never get rid of him if you mention the j word.

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  108. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    The days of Labour being supporters of the average working man are well over Johnboy.

    The average working Joe has no effective political voice in NZ.

    The Greens are not about the environment, they are a hard line marxist organisation.

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  109. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Well said kea. As soon as labour, or any party for that matter align themselves with benefit junkies they cease being a workers party. No one speaks for us.

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  110. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Time then we created a new movement for the worker in NZ then Kea.
    Unions are shit and only regarded as funding units for the prats in parliament.

    What do you suggest? :)

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  111. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Some form of a National Socialist Workers Party would do it for me.

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  112. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Have you considered a suitable rank in the Kea/Johnboy new party Kevin.

    Obersturmbahnfuhrer perhaps? :)

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  113. Viking2 (11,282 comments) says:

    In 1946… A revised and streamlined revival of Kern and Hammerstein’s Show Boat opens on Broadway at the Ziegfeld Theatre. The United Mine Workers rejoins the American Federation of Labor. Yugoslavia’s new constitution, modeling the Soviet Union, establishes 6 constituent republics: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia. The Soviet Union and Switzerland resume diplomatic relations.

    The Nobel prize for Literature that year went to Hermann Hesse. The Nobel Peace prize went to Emily Greene Balch and John Raleigh Mott. The Nobel prize for physics went to Percy Williams Bridgman from the United States for the invention of an apparatus to produce extremely high pressures, and for the discoveries he made there within the field of high pressure physics. The sensation this created was big. But it didn’t stop the planets from spinning, on and on, year by year.

    The 1940s were indeed a special decade. World War II continued, affecting people in Europe, Asia and elsewhere. The post war world encouraged decolonization, new states and governments emerged, while others declared independence, often not without bloodshed. The dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four is published, picturing a totalitarian Big Brother regime controllings its citizens. The NATO gets established. Iceland declares independence Denmark. Mao Zedong’s Chinese Communist Party is victorious in the Chinese Civil War. Mathematics sees the invention of cryptography. Ballistic missiles are created.

    The screen is going to fade to black; follow the instructions below.

    You may be pleasantly surprised with this one… Type the year only!!

    Then click the question (?) mark!

    Sit back and enjoy!!

    Click below…
    http://whathappenedinmybirthyear.com/
    Year of your birth

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  114. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    I like your thinking Johnboy. But we need to drop the “Socialist” bit :)

    The Obersturmbahnfuhrer will be in charge of treaty matters and other sundry cultural matters that may arise from time to time.

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  115. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    He would of course have to have deep understanding of the cultural nuances and swimming characteristics of Taniwhas and at what periods of the moon erstwhile Taniwha hunters should be kicked off the wharf.

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  116. kowtow (7,953 comments) says:

    The excellent Max Hastings on the EU prize.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217013/As-protesters-dressed-Nazis-riot-Athens-ruled-Brussels-stooges-giving-Nobel-Peace-Prize-EU-satire.html

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  117. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Angela Merkel appears to possess nipples kowtow.

    Is this allowed under EU policy?

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  118. Reid (16,111 comments) says:

    Seriously, Alfred Nobel must be revolving in his grave.

    What this shows is that the committee has been hijacked by western interests who find it impossible to look outside their sphere, which destroys the credibility of the award built over the last century by its impartiality. It’s like giving Blanket Man a posthumous Order of New Zealand award, it elevates an undeserving subject while at the same time cheapens the award for future worthy recipients. Looking at the list, there are quite a few years it wasn’t awarded. That would have been a more appropriate outcome.

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  119. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Bit like making Micky Cullen a Sir really Reid.

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  120. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    I want world peace and I am only half white (1/2 sand nigger). It was good enough for Obama, so maybe I have a chance.

    At least the EU did -something- . It could not have been easy to destroy an entire countries economy, install an EU puppet government and still find time to work on stamping out democracy all over Europe.

    I wonder how all those “peace” riots are going today. I have not checked the international news to see people peacefully getting their heads smashed in by Riot Police as they run amok in celebration of their EU membership.

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  121. Reid (16,111 comments) says:

    Bit like making Micky Cullen a Sir really Reid.

    And appointing him to the NZ Post board to take over from Bolger as Chair Johnboy. A sinecure for “services rendered” rather than a deserving appointment. The reason they farm out the chair of NZ Post? What harm can they possibly ever do? That’s why Bolger and Cullen both landed there. They should ban politicians from receiving honours, they really should. Of all the people who have ever got them, politicians are the least deserving of them all so fuck it, ban em, ban em all. I bet Colin Craig would pick up a few votes if that was one of his minor policies.

    On the EU, I’ve said many times here the EU is the prototype model for a one world govt a.k.a. the New World Order Bush announced in 1991 (and NATO is the military model). kowtow’s link contains this quote, which is transparently true. Yet still the politicians march on. It’s not because they don’t already know it, because how could they not recognise this rampant sentiment in their own electorates. It’s because, as I keep telling you, democracy is a farce, a charade, it doesn’t matter which side left or right is in charge, they’re all the same and they’re marching to orders they don’t tell you about, because if they did, they would be killed.

    The second strand in the EU disaster is that the governing class, with huge conceit, has attempted to drive the continent’s peoples up a path towards political union most have absolutely no desire to tread, in defiance of democratic principle and prudent politics.

    Indeed, I have heard European MPs and Eurocrats argue shamelessly that they know better than the stupid voters what is in their best interests. One German politician said not long ago: ‘All our country’s biggest decisions since 1945 have been taken against the will of the people.’

    He was proud of that. He thought it displayed splendid leadership by successive chancellors.
    But Germany’s voters are now profoundly embittered by the realisation that abandoning the Deutschmark was a catastrophe for them. Europe’s political class has betrayed its electorates — but its members still refuse to acknowledge this.
    Angela Markel, lost at sea like the rest of Europe’s leaders, is also lost for words to use to her people. A German politician says: ‘She cannot say “sorry”. She has no narrative.’

    If you think you waste precious time queuing for buses or waiting for the trailers to end in a cinema, think of EU summits. At each one, hundreds of important and allegedly powerful people waste whole days and nights exchanging platitudes, because they still will not admit that the entire direction of travel of this vast institution is wrong, wrong, wrong — more denial of a big truth.

    You can view many things in the EU as being counter-productive to their own citizens yet still the politicians keep imposing them, all the time. And the question thinking people need to ask, is why. Why, why why. And bizarre as it may seem to those of you who haven’t educated yourself over the years, the only possible answer is the one I’ve given above, nothing else fits. Go ahead. Conduct the exercise in your head. Look at what the EU politicians have done over the last twenty years against the wishes of their own electorates and against the conventional orthodoxy of whatever arena you’re thinking about, be it economics, crime control, military strength, light but efficient and sensible regulation, or anything else.

    This Nobel Prize is designed as just another minor lever to keep the wool pulled over the sheeple’s eyes. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Isn’t it super. Our own job prospects may be in the crapper but hey, we’ve all got a gweat big warm tummy because our wulers and masters are weally weally benevolent and it must be so because crikey, we’ve all got a little piece of the Nobel Peace Pwize sitting in our widdle tummies.

    Cynical? Not me. Them. I’m just a realist who looks full on at the freight train heading toward me because if something’s going to happen, I’d rather be eyes wide open, than eye’s wide shut, like most people are.

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  122. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Here is another good article: http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1795/eu_nobel_peace_prize_is_more_farcical_than_obama_s

    This sort of thing makes me wonder if I should just give up caring !

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  123. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    You should old chap. Just come here for the laughs like I do! :)

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  124. kowtow (7,953 comments) says:

    johnboy @546

    I think the pointy nipples was cos she was being goosed by the French dwarf.

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  125. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Or maybe her nipples got all perky because she has succeeded in bringing about Hitlers dream of ruling over Europe with a socialist regime. :)

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  126. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    The British press having a field day:
    The conservative Daily Telegraph wrote in an editorial that the decision “prompts, above all, one question: is it too late for Alfred Nobel’s heirs to ask for their money back?

    “The greatest service it has done is not to diplomacy, but to comedy.”

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  127. Seán (397 comments) says:

    Kea – is that all you could come up with after a Google search? Some petty restrictions on a bottle water producer and an East Midlands cheesemaker? Well done there…

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  128. bhudson (4,736 comments) says:

    The Nobel Prize committee is just one more casualty in the left’s long war against our traditional culture.

    Well – on the face it at least – Barack Obama got the prize simply for winning an election.

    If I had known that, I would have stood for 4th Form Student Leader at Mana College way back in ’82…

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  129. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Sean, I could come up with far worse examples, but so could you, if you cared to look. To say the EU is about freedom of trade is laughable and factually wrong. The controls, on member states, go well beyond commercial enterprise. But you know all that, don’t you.

    All your doing is paraphrasing official EU press releases. If you had a fresh look at all the facts, you may begin to share the concerns many others have. You may also notice the increasing rioting, civil unrest and ardent nationalism that the EU is causing. Far from uniting Europe, it is dividing it.

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  130. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Oh btw Sean there is one group of people who do not want anything to do with the EU. The Norwegians.

    The ultimate irony is that the Nobel Peace Prize committee is composed of Norwegians, a people who won’t touch EU membership with a 10-foot pole. In fact, admitted Geir Lundestad of the Nobel Institute, Norway has never been less interested in joining the EU.

    Of course the citizens of most member states never got chance to vote on membership and have it imposed on them, like it or not. The Riot Police soon bash them into line though.

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  131. KH (694 comments) says:

    Given how Europe screwed up in 1914 ( which not so incidentally was New Zealand worst disaster – it all but destroyed rural New Zealand) And how they screwed up in 1939. And not forgetting the 1870s. That they have achieved 70 years of peace since is an achievement.
    Congratulations Europe. You deserve this prize.

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