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131 Responses to “The EU wins the Nobel Peace Prize”
Nasska the institutions aren’t worthless to the lefties. Every year the budgets of many government departments, universities, and other institutes represent billions of dollars of extra campaign finance to the parties of the left.
Don’t get me wrong – the EU has been a good success at stopping wars
Based on what evidence?
The EU is causing division and conflict all over Europe. This is well reported, even in our NZ Lefty media bubble. It is a remarkable statement to make. The EU is an unelected body of dictators that remove the sovereign rights of the countries that sign up to this terrible socialist construct.
The fact that there has not (yet) been a major war, in Europe, can not be attributed to the EU. Any more than the fact there has been no major meteor strikes since the EU was formed.
Two chattering losers who profess to be opposed to the left but who are really, in their abject submission to so many of the left’s social constructs, little more than enablers.
The Nobel Prize may have once been what its names implies, but since the left have perverted it, it is only worthy of ridicule.
And the likes of Nasska and Davinci, blind narcissists to the left’s steady destruction of everything that was ever worth anything, have stood around giggling and holding hands while it all happened.
And even as it goes on, they still refuse to admit that the left’s long term objective is to completely reform our society into a dictatorship of the proletariat, the ambition Marx has always told them to aim for.
All done with gradualism, bit by bit by bit, and in one hundred years or perhaps even less, when all future generations are in chains, they will have the likes of Nasska and Davinci, two sneering blind and ignorant fools, to thank for it.
Nasska is the left. How can he criticise it? He sneers at anyone who really opposes his Christian hating Marxist buddies. He’s an ignorant fool and a slave to the Progressives and his masters use him as they wish as he gaily dances to their music. Like Davinci, the kind of easily manipulated enabler the commies are always so grateful for. Without those two and their ilk, their task would be so much harder.
Notice how both Nasska and Davinci immediately reach for the Alinsky device of ridicule without even knowing they’re doing it? Like all such braindead indoctrinated dumbarses they can’t even see how in their blindness, they’ve given the left everything they ever wanted.
Such useful idiots have white anted western civilisation for the Marxists for decades now and they are so dull in intellect they won’t even know how or when they’ve given it up even when its all gone.
Weddy thinks that cccp is to the right end of the political spectrum yet has so far failed to work out that with its anti homo consercvonuttery and destined to failure attempts to make us all f undies. its actually as right as Winston first
Weddy politics one eyed clueless moron.
the EU has been a good success at stopping wars in Europe.
Forgotten the Yugoslav wars, David?
Where the Germans succeeded in dividing Yugoslavia into seven “Nations” to be absorbed into the fourth Reich piecemeal with the help of American bombers and cruise missiles, partitioning it more or less the same way the Nazis did during WW2.
And then had the gall to put the legitimate President of that country on trial for trying to hold his country together.
Even today they are trying to impose Western European pathologies on the Orthodox Serbs who are quite correctly resisting
Thanks for the laff Griff. The assumption that a mental child like you could really latch on to what an adult may be thinking is something that is really funny.
Grief, you’re so limited in your political perspectives and full of such old and tired ideas you might as well have been buried with Jimi Hendrix.
I’ll bet your one of those dopey old losers wearing denim and long grey hair (with a bald patch in the middle) that I see happily wending their way along the footpath to the dole office as I pass through those slowly dying NZ country towns.
“The political Right, or at least it’s saner representatives, & I agree on much Baiter Boy. It’s you I can’t stand.”
Well, at least I can take some satisfaction in that I’m achieved that prominence in your mind. (as tiny as it is)
To me, you’ll never amount to anything more that one of the great dull sludgy grey mass of dumbfucks who think they are right wing but in their ignorant and abject submission to every left wing cultural strategy out there are those most responsible for blindly gifting our culture and thereby our political structures to the left.
I have worn a number one for the last thirty years I spend my time at a bach on one of the nicest beaches in north land or in Auckland or on my yacht
I don’t own either a denim shirt or jacket And I have been project managing building or landscaping for the last ten years
Conservonuttery is the failed policys from the fifty’s Guess who has not changed?
Trade evidently a bit slow over at baiterbog. Or has it come to a complete standstill given the time spent over here by the Great Bogger? Possibly also cranky because of blisters from his new high heels.
at least I can take some satisfaction in that I’m achieved that prominence in your mind
Yes, inevitably when I’m stepping over something unpleasant.
Does anybody recall an organisations called NATO?
It has been a bit quiet lately, but that defence organisation might well have done most to stop the European countries from fighting each other.
Dear me David, you do seem to have swalled too much EUSSR propoganda over the years, as have the Nobel Prize Committee.
At the moment the EUSSR seems to be doing much to foment nationalism and division across many European states at the moment.
Look at how the Greeks are keen to portray Angela Merkel as a new Adolf Hitler.
Weedy and the same old toothless old fart logic.
Where is the post of DPF talking about decay of our public institutions?
the Nobel prize is not a public undertaking its as far as I know a private trust.
Giving the prize to the USA of warfare or the Eu of bureaucracy is a farce.
So was giving it to N Mandala of necktyrefire fame .
So you could say lefty social post-modernist nutjob idiots have taken over.
That is distinct from us to the right that are socially liberal something that you seem totally unaware of
We don’t expect any thing more from a conservonutter like you
I don’t think anyone claimed SA was a paradise under the previous regime. Under St Nelson Mandela’s and black successives though it has become what kea and griff described it as.
Many former colonial territories ,probably fair to say most,did do better under bwana.
A limited democracy is probably better than an African kleptocracy.
“That is distinct from us to the right that are socially liberal”
Where is the liberalism? Look around you you sad simple fuckwit. You have ceded every principle of freedom again and again and again and we now suffer under a totalitarian Marxist/ Progressive regime and it all happened when you were supposedly out there caring about freedom.
You lame dopey old fuckwit, you were played like a violin. There is no freedom, its almost all been taken, it continues to be taken, and its you that has given it up and continues to give it up.
You don’t stand for freedom. You don’t stand for anything. You are a grovelling spineless creature completely mesmerized by the left and their assault on our freedom and our culture and our civilisation.
Who gave it up if it wasn’t you you blind loser???
Who is most responsible for the Nobel Prize becoming a farce? For our education system being a commie indoctrination process? For our media becoming a Goebells style propaganda organisation?
I’ll tell you.
You are you blind fuckwit. It all happened on your watch and you didn’t just stand there and let it happen, you did everything you could to assist. Don’t preach to me about your “liberalism” you dumbfuck manipulated intolerant POS. You have given everything that was ever important to freedom and our civilisation up and you’ve done it with a stupid gormless grin on your face.
Now fuck off with your childlike lame whining. You’re an impostor and a loser and I’ve spent far too much time on your facile infantile whining.
“Mandela, the convicted terrorist, who turned SA into the murder, rape and robbery capital of the world and who systematically murdered and tortured his political opponents, got one.”
Because SA was such a paradise before Mandela was released from prison aye. I guess those blacks just did not know how good they had it under apartheid.
Well the millions of blacks who immigrated to apartheid SA seemed to think it was a paradise, compared to the majority black run countries. They had greater personal safety and security, along with a chance to advance themselves economically. All that is gone now.
I note the treatment of refugees from the other former bread basket (now another African basket case) Zimbabwe. Mandelas wonderful people stuck burning tyres over them and burnt them to death in the street. This “necklacing” is a legacy of Mandela’s, who used it often against black political opponents. His savage wife carried it on while the vile prick was in jail. He should be hung, not awarded.
People love to criticise American foreign policy unfairly. But one of their genuine post war mistakes was supporting African liberation struggles just to stick it to Russia, instead of supporting a more graded transition that Britain wanted.
You do not advocate freedom baiter you seek to inflict you version of morality on all. That is not freedom by any means because the only way you will get the majority to live like you want is at the point of a gun. If you were in charge NZ would become the Cambodia of conservonuttery
prime principle of Conservatism is that government should be small weak and practically unnoticeable
So why do you long for social control?
recognise this list adolf baiter
Red triangle—political prisoners: liberals, communists, trade unionists, royalists, social democrats and socialists, Freemasons, anarchists.
Green triangle— “professional criminals” (convicts, often Kapos).
Blue triangle—foreign forced laborers, emigrants.
Purple triangle—Bible Students, a term taken from a name of, and primarily referring to, Jehovah’s Witnesses, though a very small number of pacifists and members of other religious organizations were also imprisoned under this classification
Pink triangle—sexual offenders, mostly homosexual men but rarely rapists, zoophiles and paedophiles
Black triangle—people who were deemed “asocial elements” and “work shy” including
Roma (Gypsies), who were later assigned a brown triangle
The mentally ill
Vagrants and beggars
Brown triangle—Roma (Gypsies) (previously wore the black triangle).
Uninverted red triangle—an enemy POW, spy or a deserter.
Of course you would have got a black and a red triangle 😆
The right should be taking advantage of the EU concept, not scorning it. Free movement of labour, ease of doing business and a common currency are all tools to promote growth (yes there have been hiccups and even wrong turns). Yet the right only seems to focus on big government and sovereignty issues. Mhhhh. These may be reasonable concerns, but are they big enough to cancel out the benefits? No. Focus on improving the model rather than continuously complaining. Open markets are the friend of the right. Shape it as it should be, stop bitching.
You’re talking about the Common Market or EEC ,the politicians and unelected bureaucrats in Brussels etc have moved way beyond that to a European superstate that I think very few Europeans really want.
Sean, the EU is not required for free trade and open markets.
The EU imposes numerous restrictions on trade and commerce. A few minutes of Googling will provide you with the evidence of this. The EU is not about economics or preventing war. It is about imposing a socialist regime on Europe, by stealth. It over rides the democratically elected leaders of member states. It is about power and control. Nothing else.
I’ll spend one more comment on trying to get through your thick skull you stupid pig ignorant Progressive dildo.
You have the fucking nerve to complain of longing for social control when you and other Progressives have worked hard to produce a society where freedom of thought and speech is daily under greater and greater threat than it has ever been?
Where anyone who steps outside the progressive norm is hounded by intrusive social legislation and its baying hounds in public?
Where Slipper loses his job for saying vagina’s look like mussels in their shell? Where people are jailed for insulting queers? Where giving offense to anyone on any issue is tantamount to assaulting them?
This is the “liberal” society that you have developed?
For fuck’s sake, you are not liberals, you are authoritarians in disguise seeking to exact serious social punishment on anyone who challenges your ascendancy. You attempt to impose an authoritarian progressive viewpoint and you use our schools and our media and our parliament and our bureaucracy to do all this and you say its Conservatives who want to force their views on everyone??
For fucks sake how blind can you be to your own rank stupid dull hypocrisy?
Here is the difference. Sure, Conservatives believe in taking a moral stand. In principles and rules. But it is a personal thing. Government is there to protect the realm and to record births deaths marriage and land transfers and to do very little else. For example, it is not the purpose of government to force some fucked in the head liberal’s (like you) idea of “equality” upon society.
You Grief can live by whatever principles you want, but do not presume to take away my freedom to judge you on the way you live your life if within my own personal boundaries I choose to do that.
Taking away freedom is what you progressives are all about. You’ve done it under the guise of “liberalism” and you have done it for decades, and you will continue to do it if someone doesn’t stop you.
The real problem we face is dealing with low intellect fools like you, so full of shit and ignorance and bigotry and misinformation you will never get it.
You in your ignorance and bigotry are the sick legacy of decades of liberalism. The social spawn of hypocrisy married to deceit, and it is your ilk that have brought us to where we are today. You assert your regard for liberty but every day you are taking it away inch by inch by inch by inch.
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.”
It is the left that wants free movement of labour because they believe we should all be brought down to the same level. They want world government out of the United Nations and the eu is a step in that direction. Although it is very hard to distinguish the left wing political elite and the wealthy elite because the collude so much these days.
Nothing the Chimp does can change this magnificent speech Red!
“Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate—we cannot consecrate—we cannot hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom— and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
But why give it to the EU now, in the middle of their economic meltdown?
How misinformed can you get?
The vast majority of the countries of the EU is well governed and outside of the few countries who’s populace was permitted to overload with debt, is not anywhere near economic meltdown.
The true test as regards the economic health of the EU will be whether the Eurozone, a laudable but problematic project, can unite to enable the people of the troubled countries to prosper or whether a misplaced ‘morality’ imperative will see tens of millions mired in misery for years to come.
And one for the Redbaiters of this world: if some governments had had the sense and the courage to regulate their bank lending and their citizens borrowings to keep within the realms of prudence, this ‘crisis’ would never had happened.
And surely the current and temporary economic situation is completely irrelevant to awarding the Nobel Peace Prize (benighted as it may be) to a project that has largely bought peace to a continent continually at war for millennia. In fact, that the EU remains at peace (geopolitically) in the face of the ‘meltdown’ is a factor in favor of the award!
But NATO’s actions outside the continent is another matter.
Kowtow – even bureaucrats in NZ are unelected. Probably most other places as well.
Kea – when you say the EU is “imposing a socialist regime on Europe”…we got your colours. Especially since the right holds the majority in the European Parliament. Fact is, within members, restrictions are much less than before. This is a boon for business and growth. You should stop with your ideologically driven nonsense (starting to sound like a Greenie but on the other extreme), and focus on how the right should dominate the agenda in a growth-friendly environment that the EU has established.
It is amazing what people presume the right to be. If you believe that the governments primary role is defence, law and order and the law should treat everyone equally. We want our taxes to be spent wisely and the most important people to be rewarded are those who earn the money. We want the freedom to choose what we spend our money on. For that we are labelled far right neoliberals in this Orwellian nightmare we are forced to live in.
Most would not agree with free movement of labour flooding our borders as,that would destroy any hope of ever helping the poor people of the world because we would be weak and poor ourselves. Oh that’s right, we now are because of the damage done by the collusion between the political elite.
In fact, that the EU remains at peace (geopolitically) in the face of the ‘meltdown’ is a factor in favor of the award!
The EU countries are not at peace and things are getting (much) worse.
You provide no evidence that the EU is responsible for less wars.
The EU is not required for free trade or co-operation in Europe. Its only purpose is to impose laws and regulations on other countries. It is a nest of evil socialists craving power and control. The head of this vile bunch is a Maoist for gods sake!
“I regard Obama as a waste of space and his supporters as idiots and liars. I have never met an Obama supporter who was not an ignorant sack of shit.”
You’re missing the point. Obama was elected because white people wanted to show how “liberal” they are.
IOW, in order to conform to the state mandated liberal mindset, and being so desperate to do so, they elected a communist to the White House. The would rather elect a communist than be thought of as racist.
Don’t you see where its going? How thought and speech is being shaped as Norman Thomas predicted.
If people like you Grief and Nasska and Davinci are not stopped there will be concentration camps being built in twenty years for people like me.
How do I know this?
I only have to look at your record over the last twenty years and project it forward another twenty years. As misguided protectors of freedom you have done nothing but aid and abet those who would destroy it.
Regulated capitalism and progressive taxation is the pathway to prosperity for democratic societies, Kea. Anything else leads to totalitarianism and mass suffering.
Totalitarianism is the number one goal of the EU. I wonder just how much you really know about the EU.
The citizens of most member states had no vote on membership. Once they become members, the democratically elected representatives (of the member states) are dictated to by un-elected EU members.
Face it Luc, its a big step towards a one world government. It is pure totalitarianism. I wonder if you would be so approving of the EU if it was more right leaning, rather than the communist organ it is now, even if it achieved all the things you seem so approving of?
It does not require a central (un-elected) government to achieve cross border trade.
The fact somethings have become easier, does not justify the existence of the EU.
Your reasoning is faulty and you have provided no convincing argument to support your position. You clearly have other reasons for supporting the EU. I suspect the real reason is you are a socialist who believes your views should be forced on others. It shows.
Kea – au contraire, I am no socialist but consider myself centre-right. I believe in free movement of labour and trade and – for all its faults – the EU has provided this. What I despise is socialists that promote protectionism and far-right idealists that focus on impractical ideology. Get into the real world. Now.
Ok Sean, but you fail to convince me that the EU is the only, or best, way of achieving those goals.
You are the one who needs to “get into the real world” if you can not see the far-left ideology of the EU. You only have to look at the political history of many of its members. Its no secret and you can have no excuse for your ignorance of this fact.
You are judging the EU based on very narrow criteria and ignoring all the bad bits. Next you will be claiming the USSR was a great idea because of its tractor and potato production.
Kea, your myopic vision of the EU simply belies reality. All member countries joined with the support of its voters via referenda. Other countries are lining up to join it and the Eurozone. It ain’t some vast left wing conspiracy, despite what your free radical neurons are telling you.
Sean, do remember that protectionism and currency manipulation are two sides of the same coin. Germany benefited immensely from the creation of the Euro in that the value of the Euro more reflects the weakness of many member nations than the strength of one, Germany. Southern Europe has been providing cover for Germany to accumulate massive trade surpluses.
The lesson here is that appeals to simplistic ideological models do not do justice to the complexities of the real world.
Now I’m off to let my four year old play in that real world 😉
Kea – I would not say that the EU has a far-left ideology when the current parliament is in favour of the right. But even despite the current make up of the EU parliament, the EU has moved to what we on the right have always known – tariffs are bad, free trade is good. This fundamental fact bugs the left and so be it. But on the right we must encourage the opening of borders, to encourage growth, new jobs and the resultant lifting of those out of poverty.
Here is an example of the “free trade” supported by Sean and Luc:
EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration
EU officials concluded that, following a three-year investigation, there was no evidence to prove the previously undisputed fact.
Producers of bottled water are now forbidden by law from making the claim and will face a two-year jail sentence if they defy the edict, which comes into force in the UK next month.
This is an example of the “freedom” of trade you can expect under the EU. They make hundreds of demands on how business is done, right down to the size of glass of beer etc. They also make demands on what type of laws are passed, gay rights and anything else they feel like.
Here is another example of Sean’s “boon for business”
Stilton villagers banned from using own name on cheese
The Cambridgeshire village of Stilton is resuming manufacture of the famous cheese almost 300 years after it was first created – despite an EU ban on the use of the name.Villagers are being forced to come up with a new title for the blue-veined cheese following a “ridiculous” ruling that prevents it officially being made outside three East Midlands counties.
They have also banned some types of cheese outright !
Di Hydrogen Monoxide of course, does prevent dehydration and will be able to be advertised under EU law to that effect Kea.
You could go to jail ( up to two years) for that statement in an EU country Johnboy.
How can anybody defend this evil organisation? I have to wonder what makes a person want to do these things to others. What would it take to show these people that socialism does not work? Over a 100 million dead and millions more living bleak grey oppressed lives, yet we still have people supporting it.
In 1946… A revised and streamlined revival of Kern and Hammerstein’s Show Boat opens on Broadway at the Ziegfeld Theatre. The United Mine Workers rejoins the American Federation of Labor. Yugoslavia’s new constitution, modeling the Soviet Union, establishes 6 constituent republics: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia. The Soviet Union and Switzerland resume diplomatic relations.
The Nobel prize for Literature that year went to Hermann Hesse. The Nobel Peace prize went to Emily Greene Balch and John Raleigh Mott. The Nobel prize for physics went to Percy Williams Bridgman from the United States for the invention of an apparatus to produce extremely high pressures, and for the discoveries he made there within the field of high pressure physics. The sensation this created was big. But it didn’t stop the planets from spinning, on and on, year by year.
The 1940s were indeed a special decade. World War II continued, affecting people in Europe, Asia and elsewhere. The post war world encouraged decolonization, new states and governments emerged, while others declared independence, often not without bloodshed. The dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four is published, picturing a totalitarian Big Brother regime controllings its citizens. The NATO gets established. Iceland declares independence Denmark. Mao Zedong’s Chinese Communist Party is victorious in the Chinese Civil War. Mathematics sees the invention of cryptography. Ballistic missiles are created.
The screen is going to fade to black; follow the instructions below.
You may be pleasantly surprised with this one… Type the year only!!
He would of course have to have deep understanding of the cultural nuances and swimming characteristics of Taniwhas and at what periods of the moon erstwhile Taniwha hunters should be kicked off the wharf.
Seriously, Alfred Nobel must be revolving in his grave.
What this shows is that the committee has been hijacked by western interests who find it impossible to look outside their sphere, which destroys the credibility of the award built over the last century by its impartiality. It’s like giving Blanket Man a posthumous Order of New Zealand award, it elevates an undeserving subject while at the same time cheapens the award for future worthy recipients. Looking at the list, there are quite a few years it wasn’t awarded. That would have been a more appropriate outcome.
I want world peace and I am only half white (1/2 sand nigger). It was good enough for Obama, so maybe I have a chance.
At least the EU did -something- . It could not have been easy to destroy an entire countries economy, install an EU puppet government and still find time to work on stamping out democracy all over Europe.
I wonder how all those “peace” riots are going today. I have not checked the international news to see people peacefully getting their heads smashed in by Riot Police as they run amok in celebration of their EU membership.
And appointing him to the NZ Post board to take over from Bolger as Chair Johnboy. A sinecure for “services rendered” rather than a deserving appointment. The reason they farm out the chair of NZ Post? What harm can they possibly ever do? That’s why Bolger and Cullen both landed there. They should ban politicians from receiving honours, they really should. Of all the people who have ever got them, politicians are the least deserving of them all so fuck it, ban em, ban em all. I bet Colin Craig would pick up a few votes if that was one of his minor policies.
On the EU, I’ve said many times here the EU is the prototype model for a one world govt a.k.a. the New World Order Bush announced in 1991 (and NATO is the military model). kowtow’s link contains this quote, which is transparently true. Yet still the politicians march on. It’s not because they don’t already know it, because how could they not recognise this rampant sentiment in their own electorates. It’s because, as I keep telling you, democracy is a farce, a charade, it doesn’t matter which side left or right is in charge, they’re all the same and they’re marching to orders they don’t tell you about, because if they did, they would be killed.
The second strand in the EU disaster is that the governing class, with huge conceit, has attempted to drive the continent’s peoples up a path towards political union most have absolutely no desire to tread, in defiance of democratic principle and prudent politics.
Indeed, I have heard European MPs and Eurocrats argue shamelessly that they know better than the stupid voters what is in their best interests. One German politician said not long ago: ‘All our country’s biggest decisions since 1945 have been taken against the will of the people.’
He was proud of that. He thought it displayed splendid leadership by successive chancellors.
But Germany’s voters are now profoundly embittered by the realisation that abandoning the Deutschmark was a catastrophe for them. Europe’s political class has betrayed its electorates — but its members still refuse to acknowledge this.
Angela Markel, lost at sea like the rest of Europe’s leaders, is also lost for words to use to her people. A German politician says: ‘She cannot say “sorry”. She has no narrative.’
If you think you waste precious time queuing for buses or waiting for the trailers to end in a cinema, think of EU summits. At each one, hundreds of important and allegedly powerful people waste whole days and nights exchanging platitudes, because they still will not admit that the entire direction of travel of this vast institution is wrong, wrong, wrong — more denial of a big truth.
You can view many things in the EU as being counter-productive to their own citizens yet still the politicians keep imposing them, all the time. And the question thinking people need to ask, is why. Why, why why. And bizarre as it may seem to those of you who haven’t educated yourself over the years, the only possible answer is the one I’ve given above, nothing else fits. Go ahead. Conduct the exercise in your head. Look at what the EU politicians have done over the last twenty years against the wishes of their own electorates and against the conventional orthodoxy of whatever arena you’re thinking about, be it economics, crime control, military strength, light but efficient and sensible regulation, or anything else.
This Nobel Prize is designed as just another minor lever to keep the wool pulled over the sheeple’s eyes. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Isn’t it super. Our own job prospects may be in the crapper but hey, we’ve all got a gweat big warm tummy because our wulers and masters are weally weally benevolent and it must be so because crikey, we’ve all got a little piece of the Nobel Peace Pwize sitting in our widdle tummies.
Cynical? Not me. Them. I’m just a realist who looks full on at the freight train heading toward me because if something’s going to happen, I’d rather be eyes wide open, than eye’s wide shut, like most people are.
The British press having a field day: The conservative Daily Telegraph wrote in an editorial that the decision “prompts, above all, one question: is it too late for Alfred Nobel’s heirs to ask for their money back?
“The greatest service it has done is not to diplomacy, but to comedy.”
Sean, I could come up with far worse examples, but so could you, if you cared to look. To say the EU is about freedom of trade is laughable and factually wrong. The controls, on member states, go well beyond commercial enterprise. But you know all that, don’t you.
All your doing is paraphrasing official EU press releases. If you had a fresh look at all the facts, you may begin to share the concerns many others have. You may also notice the increasing rioting, civil unrest and ardent nationalism that the EU is causing. Far from uniting Europe, it is dividing it.
Oh btw Sean there is one group of people who do not want anything to do with the EU. The Norwegians.
The ultimate irony is that the Nobel Peace Prize committee is composed of Norwegians, a people who won’t touch EU membership with a 10-foot pole. In fact, admitted Geir Lundestad of the Nobel Institute, Norway has never been less interested in joining the EU.
Of course the citizens of most member states never got chance to vote on membership and have it imposed on them, like it or not. The Riot Police soon bash them into line though.
Given how Europe screwed up in 1914 ( which not so incidentally was New Zealand worst disaster – it all but destroyed rural New Zealand) And how they screwed up in 1939. And not forgetting the 1870s. That they have achieved 70 years of peace since is an achievement.
Congratulations Europe. You deserve this prize.