Editor banned from Labour Party conference

November 16th, 2012 at 8:04 am by David Farrar

So have refused media accreditation to to report on the open sessions of the Party conference, despite the fact he is the editor of a newspaper. At least Muldoon only banned cartoonists!

It’s a strange decision, when you consider how much space Slater as Editor is giving the left in . He has four left columnists:

  • Former Alliance MP WIllie Jackson
  • Former Labour MP Stuart Nash
  • Former Labour candidate Josie Pagani
  • Left commentator Chris Trotter
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98 Responses to “Editor banned from Labour Party conference”

  1. graham (2,295 comments) says:

    Yes, but as the left *hate* Josie Pagani with a passion that borders on psychotic, that could explain it …

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  2. Lance (2,570 comments) says:

    So are like hundreds of lefties afraid of Cameron?

    Grow a pair you whimps

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  3. Pete George (23,354 comments) says:

    It’s also a bit odd that Martin Bradbury has apparently been given approval to give live coverage of the conference – he has been vigourously campaigning against David Shearer.

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  4. RightNow (6,844 comments) says:

    Labour can’t handle the truth!

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  5. jims_whare (399 comments) says:

    Look what they did to John Tamihere for 1 dodgy interview – trying to keep him out several years later.

    If their bitterness extends this farm imagine the deep levels of vitriol and rabid hatred they have towards WO who has made it his life mission to fisk the Labour party.

    If I was WO I would be either down at the conference with a megaphone or sneaking one of his spies in just to rark them up.

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  6. Lance (2,570 comments) says:

    @RightNow
    “Labour can’t handle the truth!”

    Sounds familiar ;-)

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  7. MT_Tinman (3,055 comments) says:

    I have never yet noted a connection between journalism and The Truth.

    Nothing I’ve seen recently changes that.

    Good on Labour.

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  8. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Jims whare: Their holding of grudges against “class traitors” lasts much longer than the few years Tamihere has been in the wilderness…They paid no tribute at all to former speaker Sir Peter Tapsell, who died…last year? As I recall, he did a fine job as Speaker, but committed the unforgiveable sin of accepting the job from the ranks of the opposition, just reducing Labour’s vote by one….I was told that a goodly part of their hatred of me – pre the passport affair – was that I had been a former Laboutr activisit 25 years earlier….they are nasty, nasty bastards the socialists…

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  9. Lance (2,570 comments) says:

    What David Garrett said.
    A dead give away to the lefty mentality is their use of the word ‘Tory’ to describe anybody to the right of them.
    This is a British term used by those enamored with the class system. They love it, they want to perpetuate it in a country that doesn’t want a class system.

    Hell, my mother in law (a British migrant and staunch lefty supporter) was unhappy about her daughter marrying outside her class FFS.
    Fuck the class system, be it upper/lower or whatever. It sucks.

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  10. ChardonnayGuy (1,190 comments) says:

    While Nash and Pagani are legitimate leftists, I question the description of Willie Jackson as such anymore. He’s a populist drone these days. As for Trottersky, he’s ridiculously myopic when it comes to any subject outside trade union politics and has never caught up with the broad left that emerged after the sixties. Make that two bona fide leftist columnists.

    Shame, though. I think Cam was an excellent choice as editor and I have a great deal of respect for him.

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  11. ChardonnayGuy (1,190 comments) says:

    As for Tamihere, loose cannon. Party discipline and whips exist for reasons. JT never accepted that while in the Labour caucus beforehand.

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  12. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    Yeah well this is just more proof of how corrupt the mainstream media is.

    They’re mostly welcome at Labour conferences because even though they are somewhat critical at times, they are still in the end, comrades in the struggle, and will always spin for the left when it really needs them.

    Slater is banned because he’s not a “comrade”.

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  13. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Chardonnay: (Apt moniker I suspect) “the broad left that emerged after the sixties”…what’s that then: a Labour Party full of chardonnay socialists who think Manual Labour is the name of a spaniard, and certainly have never done any?

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  14. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    “full of chardonnay socialists who think Manual Labour is the name of a spaniard”

    Brilliant! “Don’t worry…He’s from Barcelona”

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  15. Elaycee (4,334 comments) says:

    So…. Labour is all happy and luvvy duvvy with their Conference being ‘reported’ by their lapdog MSM, but not by someone who doesn’t play in the same political sandpit.

    But they are quite content to have their conference ‘reported’ by card carrying pinko’s such as Barry Soper / Corrin Dann / Jessica Mutch / Campbell / Walrus et al….

    Goebbels would be laughing….

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  16. Monty (966 comments) says:

    nfwab

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  17. eszett (2,374 comments) says:

    Have any other Truth reporters been accredited? Or is it only Cameron?

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  18. ChardonnayGuy (1,190 comments) says:

    At least that’s better than a far right personality cult full of opportunists and drongos who leap onboard any passing populist bandwagon in order to retain power, regardless of the consequences, David (ie Muldoon, or Winston First).

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  19. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    This seems to be something akin to poking a wild animal through the bars of its cage. When it gets a chance its going to tear you limb from limb.
    Best to co-operate with it and throw it a bit of food from time to time.

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  20. ChardonnayGuy (1,190 comments) says:

    Or a far left one, for that matter. I must confess, I find the North Korean Kims and Maoism surrealist and grotesque.

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  21. ChardonnayGuy (1,190 comments) says:

    Actually, I’m a complete and utter teetotaller. I picked my handle just to irritate the populist nutter segment of the mailers here.

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  22. Keeping Stock (10,185 comments) says:

    Labour loves free speech; cue Tui billboard :P

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  23. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Chardonnay: I stand corrected Sir….but while you don’t drink (and good on you) I very much doubt you are a welder or a carpenter either….

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  24. flipper (3,847 comments) says:

    DANGER…DANGER…DANGER !!!!!

    Please….listen. This is an urgent message for those holding their breath.

    Holding their breath on this issue could be fatal – especially if you are waiting for Red Radio, Soper, TV One, TV 3, lefty socialist Watkin’s Q+A to demand explantion of the ban friom the Labpur morons.

    If the Nats or ACT, or Winnie the Poo were to do that, they would “across” (what a bullshit term) the story like hungry dogs.

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  25. ChardonnayGuy (1,190 comments) says:

    While I may not be, I’m the first generation on my dad’s side of the family to get to university, get a degree or postgraduate qualifications for that matter. Dad was a Post Office telephone supervisor, Mum worked for the Post Office/Postbank/ANZ as receptionist, and my sister worked in airline catering before she had my nephew in her early forties. None of ‘em have tertiary qualifications.

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  26. RRM (9,670 comments) says:

    Oh come off it DPF. You know as well as anyone that the reason Slater is not welcome at the Labour Party conference will be because he has a long, well-known and plainly visible history of being one of the NZ Labour Party’s biggest, loudest and most fervent haters.

    Whereas he’s been the Editor of a Newspaper for how long, a couple of weeks?

    If you sound like a duck, and you look like a duck, and you waddle like a duck, and you’re constantly being seen in the company of other ducks; after a while people are going to start assuming you’re a duck.

    Pinning an “Editor” badge on your chest may dispel the impression that you’re a duck – or then again, it may not…

    (The Editor of a Newspaper… LOL. :lol: Sounds rather grand when you say it like that. Should mean you get instant respectability and all doors everywhere just open up for you, right?)

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  27. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > he is the editor of a newspaper

    You use the terms editor and newspaper very loosely :) I think blogger and right wing agitator would be moroe accurate.

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  28. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Well, I am not going to get into an argument about who has the “better” working class credentials, but suffice it to say that my antecedents are similar to yours, and I saw the socialists for what they are a long time ago. Nasty bastards who want and need a pool of poor people dependent on them. It was actually quite a shocking realization.

    Ross69: What do you do for a living? Since we are all – including you – talking of occupations…

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  29. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    But it is kind of ironic that Cameron would actually WANT to attend the Labour Party Conference. Cameron hates Labour with a passion but wants to hear what its MPs and delegates have to say. Weird. Wasn’t it Grouch Marx who said he didn’t want to belong to a club that would have him as a member? :)

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  30. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    Gardonnaygay- we’re really not concerned with your life story. How about getting over the narcissism and just making a relevant point.

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  31. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > Have any other Truth reporters been accredited?

    Truth has reporters? Well, I never…

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  32. RRM (9,670 comments) says:

    Wedbaiter:
    How about getting over the narcissism and just making a relevant point.

    :lol: :lol: :lol: PMSL – The hypocrisy is strong in this one..

    (And who’s this “we” Weddy? Speak for yourself please, don’t presume you are authorised and empowered to speak for and on behalf of some sort of collective “we”. )

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  33. ChardonnayGuy (1,190 comments) says:

    And you’re entitled to your views, David. I’m not a kneejerk Toryphobe, otherwise I wouldn’t have classical liberal friends (who are, however, quite convivial on issues like abortion rights and LGBT politics). I just find it amusing that there are authoritarian statist populist ratbags on the right who denounce the Evils of Socialism but are just as statist and authoritarian themselves when it comes to their pet prejudices.

    I don’t include the Sensible Sentencing Trust in this category, mostly . I tend to be rather conservative myself when it comes to violent crime- I have no problems at all with the concept of nonparole sentences of increased duration for violent criminals, rapists and child batterers or sexual abusers. I don’t agree with the death penalty, ironically enough because it’s too lenient in my view. One moment of searing final agony and that’s it for the offender. The families of victims have to live with their pain and ordeal for the rest of their lives. I do have problems when it goes beyond its highly commendable core victims rights work and endorses populist idiocy like citizens referenda and the pro-belting lobby.

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  34. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Red: Actually I am quite interested in YOUR life story (yes, yes, I am a cry baby who ran away etc. etc.) Is it true you set a record for open hole? Out in the Queensland desert somewhere west of Roma in 1964?

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  35. Mark (1,436 comments) says:

    Stupid move by a labour party that has serious problems at present. Good god even the Democrats in the US allowed fox news reporters to attend their conference and Cameron Slaters right wing bias is nothing compared to Fox.

    The Trust changes will take time. At least the bikini clad girl on the front page has been reduced in size. hopefully Cameron can get the sleaze level of the paper down a bit and the hard edged journalistic content up a bit.

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  36. Lance (2,570 comments) says:

    @RRM and ross69
    So are you guys seriously making an argument that to report on a political parties conference you aren’t allowed to disagree with them on a personal level?

    And wouldn’t the lefties in the MSM shriek hysterically if they were similarly banned from the National party conference?

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  37. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Actually chaps, I have a whole new respect for Red (he even bears a resemblance to the later Red Adair, which is apt) now I know who he is…I believe the chaps in the oil patch still talk of him with some reverence…a living reminder of the days when the derricks were made of wood and the men were made of steel…

    Ross69: What do you do for a living? Are you a welder perhaps?

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  38. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    “So are you guys seriously making an argument that to report on a political parties conference you aren’t allowed to disagree with them on a personal level?”

    No, I’m not. But you ignore the fact that reporters are meant to report the news, not make the news.

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  39. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Slater – if you have the time to read some of this blog – how about just making up a story.

    Something like “MPs make sacrafice of goat at conference” and have someone photoshop some photos of senior labour MPs with a goat on a lead being taken into the conference location.
    Then go down to a butcher shop a get a photo of bits of meat hanging up and label it “the result of the ceremony at the part conference”
    Make up some story about various MPs believeing that such a sacrifice to the God of Leaders (Zeus if you want a male God, Hera if you want a female God, but as for a neutered or rainbow God Im unsure) would help resolve their leadership problems.

    It wouild make a good front page item…………………

    and youll either NEVER be invited agin – or youll ALWAYS be invited in future….

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  40. Mark (1,436 comments) says:

    DPF I think it is a long bow to pull to suggest that the Truth is a newspaper at present. It lost that status over the years along with its circulation. I have high hopes that Cam can turn it into a bloody effective paper but as I said in the post above that will take time and he will have to manage any changes whilst trying to preserve the revenue flows which based on the advertising looks to be predominantly from the sex industry.(I wonder what %age of Truth circulation is Women. Not a great deal I would hazard a guess).

    Cam is putting together a pretty good and to be fair balanced group of contributors from the left and right and hopefully we will see some pressure put on both sides of the house.

    Garrett on Banks would be a bloody good place to start, along with one of the lefties on Shearer. There is nothing quite like being pulled to account by your own.

    One last request and hopefully Cameron reads Farrah’s blog from time to time – The Truth website if woeful. Looking forward to it getting a facelift and some content

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  41. Pete George (23,354 comments) says:

    But you ignore the fact that reporters are meant to report the news, not make the news.

    If all ‘news-making’ reporters were banned how many would be left? There certainly wouldn’t be much TV coverage.

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  42. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    barry: My God Sir, you missed your calling!! That is absolutely brilliant!

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  43. eszett (2,374 comments) says:

    Cameon not welcome at the Labour conference isnt that surprising. What will be interesting to see if he gets accredited to the National party conference. And will David put out such a headline then as well?

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  44. RRM (9,670 comments) says:

    Lance (1,489) Says:
    November 16th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    @RRM and ross69
    So are you guys seriously making an argument that to report on a political parties conference you aren’t allowed to disagree with them on a personal level?

    There’s a difference between “disagreeing with them on a personal level” and what Cam Slater has got going on Lance. He’s not some ordinary, sensible writer for the NBR who happens to vote National but keeps that to himself because that’s not what today’s story is about.

    The guy’s whole existence and public profile for years has been all about posting up profanity-laced invective on his blog all about how shit Labour is.

    To then turn around and cry “but I’m a WEPORTER!” because he’s persona non grata at their conference is beyond a joke.

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  45. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > Cameon not welcome at the Labour conference isnt that surprising

    To be sure, dog bites man isn’t news. Man bites dog is.

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  46. Peter (1,674 comments) says:

    The Truth should be online. I don’t know why they’re even bothering with dino-print.

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  47. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    I am a little bemused by the focus on the sex ads in Truth….They are deliberately all put in an insert which can be removed and chucked away, if that is the buyers wish. Has no-one noticed that Granny Herald has been carryinng “adult entertainment” ads for years, since dear old Michael Horton was put out to pasture? True, those in Truth are a little more …obvious.

    All newspapers survive on their ad revenue. The ads in Truth have been mainly “adult” for 20 years. If pics of scantily clad chinese hookers offend you so much, chuck that bit out! Unopened of course…

    Ross69: Why are you so reluctant to tell us what you do for a living? Being on a benefit is a human right, as you know….

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  48. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > The Truth should be online.

    It is.

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  49. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    I don’t think you can classify Slater as a journalist.

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  50. Scott Chris (5,981 comments) says:

    Can’t see the problem. It’s Labour’s party. It’s up to them as to whom they wish to issue invitations. Why spoil the atmosphere with a persona non grata?

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  51. Elaycee (4,334 comments) says:

    ross69:

    …you ignore the fact that reporters are meant to report the news, not make the news.

    Bwahahahaaaaaaaa… report the news??? Sure – as long as it fits with their left wing bias.

    If you really think we have balanced reporting in NZ, then please advice your business address so I can send you a proposal to invest in a nice Nigerian Investment Scheme.

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  52. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    DG- just for future reference, I never respond to speculation about my “identity”. If some indiscriminate retards want to buy into and propagate some wild claim that based on the style of writing in a letter to the editor then I’m some pensioner from Tauranga then so be it. In the end, it doesn’t matter. It is always the argument that counts.

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  53. thedavincimode (6,591 comments) says:

    Russell

    Times have moved on. As of the other day, real estate agent is now the buzz. Seems someone here knows you. Too scary. :(

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  54. Griff (7,016 comments) says:

    DG
    It would take time
    and dime would not like it :wink:

    His readership demographic , as it settles down other the next couple of months. may allow a broader advertising base.

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  55. Peter (1,674 comments) says:

    >>It is.

    Barely. A content-free zone. Looks like a ten year old had a go at designing it, too.

    Hopefully Slater can turn things around…..

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  56. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Well, I dont know why you are so shy russell…7000 feet of open hole without getting stuck is no mean feat…

    And I personally always believe if a man wants to advance an argument he should stand behind it openly…and he certainly should be open about who he is if he wants to insult and denigrate others while he’s about it…otherwise that man is a bigger coward that I was a cry baby when my career ended so suddenly….

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  57. RightNow (6,844 comments) says:

    Shh.. the first rule of Redbaiter is…

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  58. The Bin Man (6 comments) says:

    They banned Cam because they are clowns. Never underestimate the ability of the fannyphobic omnishambles that is the “brains trust” of the NZ labour party to poo finger themselves. If they had allowed him to go the big fella would have probably not bothered going anyway.
    Never fear. Truth has somebody embedded at the conference. I flew up with all the labour Toffs this morning from Wellington. have heaps of material for next weeks column. Boy can they scoff those little pastries.
    I will be live tweeting events over the weekend @NZBinMan

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  59. Griff (7,016 comments) says:

    It is always the argument that counts.

    Dont ya hate it when red baiter comes out with a pearl of wisdom.

    Now can he tell us how he “is” going to create HIS utopia again?

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  60. dime (9,685 comments) says:

    so obviously the other newspapers are going to get behind whale (aptly named, strange he is obsessed with calling others fat) and pledge not to cover the conference until they let a fellow newspaper man attend.

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  61. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    Dave, times have moved and when you write something on the net, you’re not writing to the local newspaper. You’re putting yourself out there into a worldwide communication facility and unfortunately its full of all kind of weirdos and fruitcakes and retards and you’ll get their attention, especially if what you write does serious damage to the left.

    You’d be amazed at the threats I have received, including attacks on my property and or setting me up for false charges. Physical assault is just the tip of the iceberg.

    The bottom line is that you take a hard line offensive against the progressives these days you’re taking on a powerful and malevolent force that will stop at nothing to advance their cause and silence their critics. Without moral restraint they will do anything if they believe they can escape detection or get away with it.

    You made your choice to use your actual name, a wrong choice in my opinion. You made that choice thinking this was letters to the editor all over again. Wrong. It is vastly different. Neither do you know what might be coming down the track.

    Nevertheless, I respect your decision. You and others who choose to use their own name should respect the choices of those who choose otherwise.

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  62. dime (9,685 comments) says:

    “I don’t think you can classify Slater as a journalist.” – just to add some credibility.. are there any left wing journos in this country you dont like?

    youre snarky comment sums you up really. a dimwitted ideologue.

    as for redbaiter – does anyone know what he stands for? we know what he hates (everything).

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  63. thedavincimode (6,591 comments) says:

    hard line offensive

    Oh, so that’s what it is.

    especially if what you write does serious damage to the left

    Good grief.

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  64. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    “DG- just for future reference, I never respond to speculation about my “identity”.”

    Red- You are just like Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark mate!

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  65. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    “Good grief.”

    Well, if you’ve got a better excuse to explain your own obsession I am all ears.

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  66. RRM (9,670 comments) says:

    You and others who choose to use their own name should respect the choices of those who choose otherwise.

    You got it Weddy – you and I who shoot toxic barbs at people from behind the ramparts of anonymity deserve respect! :-P

    Maybe we should petition our local MPs to write a bill demanding equal rights for anonymous trolls on the internet? ;-)

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  67. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    Well RRM, I could always just put up that drawing of you that is on your company’s website and then you wouldn’t have to worry anymore would you?

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  68. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Well Russell, funnily enough, although I express my opinions on here and elsewhere as forcefully as I have ever done, no-one has yet shown up at my house to take issue with me. Where I live is common knowledge, and anyone in Kaukakapakapa will direct you or anyone else who wishes to discuss things in person….

    Interesting that you talk about the comparison with letters to the editor. When you were a young man post war, letters to provincial papers were often signed “Ratepayer” or “Mother of Waitara.” Letters chosen for the “quality” papers – there were some, until about 10 years ago – were usually signed with a person’s real name. Papers which wished to become more credible gradually changed their policy, and accepted only signed letters. Papers occaisonally checked by telephoning the supposed writer.

    Aside from the very useful technological bells and whistles (such as links to interesting sources and other places on the net) I dont think there is much difference between comments on here and letters. I dont really mind if people feel they need to use a pseud – unless they want to be insulting and abusive. As you do, constantly. Persons who wish to “throw toxic barbs” as RRM eloquently puts it – and also hide behind pseuds are pathetic cowards. As you are Russell.

    Feel free to drop by anytime. Still very impressed with that 7000 feet of open hole!

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  69. Pete George (23,354 comments) says:

    You could joing forces with the anonymous TS trolls:

    Bloggers that use pseudonyms are not anonymous, there is a person behind every comment regardless of that persons identity, it’s our thought that counts not our bloody names.

    Something else those morons should realise is some/a lot of bloggers are teenagers and likely to be quite emotional at times ……

    http://thestandard.org.nz/towards-an-inclusive-democratic-left/

    Yeah, emotional teenagers should be left to abuse unhindered by any responsibility.

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  70. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    “although I express my opinions on here and elsewhere as forcefully as I have ever done, no-one has yet shown up at my house to take issue with me.”

    That’s because you’re tame Dave. They have already beaten you and they know you’re no real threat.

    Its actually more effective to operate a public campaign against the left from the safety of anonomity because its actually a form of guerilla warfare and therefore something they find hard to deal with.

    Going public is fine as long as you show you’re prepared to buy into the basic thrust of the commies and just argue the detail with them. But anyone who pokes their head up and is prepared to really take it to them better be prepared for some vicious and harsh treatment. Look at Colin Craig for example. I bet he asks himself all the time whether its worth the trouble.

    Look at what happened to you.

    You did some fine things it is true, but was it really worth the price you paid?

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  71. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Readers with 10 free minutes should follow the link on PG’s 12.48 post. Make sure you read the comments – in fact they are better (i.e a great worse!) than the post itself! All totally anonymous of course…

    The consensus seems to be that Utopia will be achieved by a Green/Mana government… Inside two years We’d be like the Weimar republic – with the added addition of dangerous criminals on the streets instead of in jail to go along with hyperinflation.

    Good God..Russell/Red is a guerilla fighter!!

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  72. RRM (9,670 comments) says:

    I want to hear more about this “7,000 feet of open hole”.

    The mind boggles…

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  73. Griff (7,016 comments) says:

    Why link to that rubbish PG
    it’s a lefty cluster f… full of “the evil right-wing” echoing around as original thought

    The right wing who are busy here trolling the far right complete with the obligatory acknowledged lefty co-conspirator :lol:

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  74. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    You shouldn’t follow PG’s link at all. The left have nothing worth saying, and if we just stopped listening to the fuckers, and engaging with them, they’d never get any traction.

    The best thing you can do for clarity of thought is to totally disengage from mainstream media or other left wing propaganda outlets.

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  75. RRM (9,670 comments) says:

    Pete George:

    I tried reading your link, but I only got as far as the end of the first line before losing it:

    The political Left needs a new direction with a break to the future, to prevent the on-going rightwards drift

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  76. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Griff: I disagree that it’s pointless putting up a link like that…”Knowledge is power” as they say, and it is useful to know just how loopy – and dangerous – those on the other side of the fence are.

    “the best thing for clarity of thought”…now he sounds like Pol Pot!!

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  77. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    and it is useful to know just how loopy – and dangerous – those on the other side of the fence are.

    You don’t know that already?

    Actually, on second thoughts that is probably right. I don’t think you do.

    I’m still shaking my head over the surprise of some people at the YL remits exposed by Farrar a day or so ago.

    Jesus H Christ on a bike. People didn’t know this is what they’re about??

    They don’t of course because the mainstream media won’t tell them. They’re part of it. The long term plan to incrementally convert NZ into a one party socialist state. So far, its all going just as the left want it to.

    Especially with the thoroughly emasculated and pathetic state of the National Party. I bet the left are just rubbing their hands with glee at that result. They’ve got NZ’s version of Warren Buffet running it and the party has drifted so far left they’d probably all be happy to serve under Obama rather than Sid Holland

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  78. Pete George (23,354 comments) says:

    Its actually more effective to operate a public campaign against the left from the safety of anonomity because its actually a form of guerilla warfare and therefore something they find hard to deal with.

    How well has that worked for you RB?

    I’ve chosen to identify myself and for what I’m doing I’ve found that to be very effective.

    But anyone who pokes their head up and is prepared to really take it to them better be prepared for some vicious and harsh treatment.

    Yes, I’ve had plenty of that – from different blogs, including here. The difference (in my experience) on right blogs is if you stand up to bullshit and bullying attempts they subside. On left blogs they would never give up attacking, their aim was to shut down someone they decided was an enemy, regardless of any argument.

    I have no problem with people using pseudonyms who express their opinions and debate, I’ve had some ding-dongs with some. Most of them are reasonable about it and don’t bear grudges.

    But I think it’s detestable when people launch personal attacks on identified people from the cloak of anonymity. That’s trying to use anonymity as a weapon. It’s gutless.

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  79. Pete George (23,354 comments) says:

    There’s actually some very intelligent and knowledgable people posting on other blogs. And as DG says, it’s very useful understanding how other people with different ideas think.

    You can’t learn much from inside a bunker, that’s ridiculously arrogant. Unless of course you’re positive all your ideas are 100% correct for everyone everywhere and you have nothing more to learn – you just need to remember to have a mirror in your bunker so someone can see how clever you are.

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  80. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Red is so much wiser and more knowledgeable than the rest of us! It’s actually amazing that he has not been plucked from the obscurity of retirement in Tauranga to become ….I don’t know …. a Ministerial (if not Prime Ministerial) advisor at least….Red could have advised that chap who stood against Obama. THEN he would have been cooking with gas! Red knows a lot about gas…

    PG @ 1.33..well said.

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  81. Harriet (4,626 comments) says:

    “……Especially with the thoroughly emasculated and pathetic state of the National Party. I bet the left are just rubbing their hands with glee at that result. They’ve got NZ’s version of Warren Buffet running it and the party has drifted so far left they’d probably all be happy to serve under Obama rather than Sid Holland….”

    ….serve under Obama….

    but in reality they will next get dictated to by Winston….again!

    ….useful idiots the lot of ‘em! :cool:

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  82. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    Pete I don’t care whether you post/comment as Cerium or Pete George, of if Graham Taylor posts as Big Bruv or Fot, you’re still two of the most cowardly and repugnant people on the net, and given that (thankfully) I shall never meet either of you, it doesn’t matter a damn what you call yourself as long as you are consistent. (Something which Mr Taylor finds difficult to do having been thrown off one forum for a multitude of nicks.)

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  83. RRM (9,670 comments) says:

    DPF’s millionth comment function is looking more and more like it will be an unmissable event… :eek:

    I have a feeling pre-loading will be a must though..

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  84. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    “a Ministerial (if not Prime Ministerial) advisor at least”

    Key is too busy listening to this bunch of leftist fuckwits. (That’s a major part of his problem. Too politically naive to know when he’s being bullshitted to.)

    http://truebluenz.com/2011/12/30/kiwiblogs-mystery-writers/

    Which one of those listed in the story do you think might be The Davincimoron?

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  85. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    So you have offered your invaluable insights to the PM then Red? Perhaps you were asking for too much money….I don’t what they pay toolpushers or rig super’s these days…

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  86. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    Around $2000/ 2500 a day if you’re any good.

    On shore that is.

    Did you ever get past lease hand?

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  87. Pete George (23,354 comments) says:

    RB, I don’t care if you think I’m repugnant, you’re not exactly a demographic I care much about.

    But your ‘cowardly’ claim is sort of amusing isn’t it? I’d be happy to meet you to discuss it. But it sounds like you’re not keen on actually fronting up. So it will have to stay at staring you down here (when I disagree, you do have some ideas with a bit of merit).

    Oh, and remember when you were courageous enough to ban me from your blog in case I said something you didn’t like? You brave bastard.

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  88. Griff (7,016 comments) says:

    Mad as
    A good mate from my school days is a Green Party supporter.
    ran into him
    He started to explain how its going to work,How the water would rise up and destroy society the global finical collapse. we should allow the Maori to govern New Zealand as they were here first. And how he was learning fu just you to kill the rampaging hordes
    All I could say between bouts of laughter is you are smeging mad.

    They seem to have very negative view of humanity. Some of their supporters are the one the rest of society would have to hunt down . :grin:

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  89. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    “Oh, and remember when you were courageous enough to ban me from your blog in case I said something you didn’t like? You brave bastard.”

    Oh, so it was you using that funny pseudonym?

    Who is the hypocrite again?

    BTW, you were not banned- read the posting rules. No left wingers wanted. Its my blog, and I decide who posts there, and I don’t feel like running a facility where idjits like you (and RRM for another example) run riot and waste everyone’s time and bandwidth.

    As you do here.

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  90. Pete George (23,354 comments) says:

    Another media irony at the Labour conference.

    Conference 2012 – Labour
    Written By: lprent – Date published: 1:54 pm, November 16th, 2012

    Well, I’m at the Labour conference – as media.

    Feels somewhat weird after many delegate years. I figure that The Standard needs to start sending someone along to the conferences. So I will ground-break at each of the major ones over the next year.

    http://thestandard.org.nz/conference-2012-labour/

    Yes, maye if the Standard send enough along to Labour conferences they will have the numbers to roll their leader. This particular ‘media’ person posted this earlier this week:

    Shuffle the deck
    Written By: lprent – Date published: 12:06 pm, November 12th, 2012

    By all means, get rid of the unfortunate experiment that is the David Shearer leadership. But the problem is really with the NZLP’s parliamentary caucus who appear to have lost sight of what we want them to achieve. Until that problem is fixed the party will continue to shed people willing to exert effort supporting them.

    http://thestandard.org.nz/shuffle-the-caucus-deck/

    I wonder how much leader rolling and caucus deck shuffling he manages to initiate. Maybe Eddie and IrishBill are also there to give him a hand.

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  91. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Red/Russell: Now this is very interesting…you deny being a retired rig man currently resident in Tauranga (“God’s waiting room by the sea”) but not only do you know what the terms “toolpusher” and “leasehand” mean without resorting to google, but you also know current pay rates!

    In answer to your question, Yes, AD as it happens (and of course I dont have to explain what those letters mean to man like you, you great chunk of testosterone). Did you ever meet a bloke called Mick Hoare? You remind me of him…He was a raving ranter, and a legend in his own mind…

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  92. eszett (2,374 comments) says:

    BTW, you were not banned- read the posting rules. No left wingers wanted. Its my blog, and I decide who posts there

    ROTFL, now, now red, you defender of free speech, you are contradicting yourself within the same paragraph.
    A bad sign for your “clarity of thought”

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  93. Pete George (23,354 comments) says:

    It’s amazing what you can find sometimes.

    That said, I have to ask myself: are Perigo and ‘Pete George’ the same person? A series of questions either inane in nature, or specifically designed to ‘trap’ the interlocutee.

    Within the first 5 minutes he was on the Libertarianz favourite sacred cow of sodomites. He neatly followed that up with a dog-whistle about democracy (the Nazis were brought to power on a popular vote). He then moved on to asking a series of Pete George style questions about the Coastal Coalition and the opposition to the Marine & Coastal Area Act in which he basically repeated Tinkerbell’s lies and half-truths.

    Posted by Redbaiter
    http://truebluenz.com/2011/04/09/the-gantt-guy-reviews-perigos-interview-of-muriel-newman/

    RB, you really can’t tell me apart from Lindsay Perigo?

    Kris, be careful what you say in response to the commenter using the posting name “Sinner”.

    He is a leftist posting here for the purpose of discrediting this blog.

    I leave his posts up as an example of the duplicity the left are capable of.

    Personally I think he’s Pete George, but I could be quite wrong.

    Comment by Redbaiter
    http://truebluenz.com/2011/11/28/a-libertarian-cheers-for-a-christian-society/
    Also:
    http://truebluenz.com/2011/11/27/conservative-party-55000-votes-not-wasted-but-sending-a-powerful-message/

    And ‘sinner’ kept posting about hanging and shooting people, one wonders why he would be attracted to a blog with a logo featuring a rifle with scope motif and the words “If you run you’ll only die tired’.

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  94. Redbaiter (8,039 comments) says:

    Hey dumbarse- read the attribution. The post was written by the Gantt Guy.

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  95. David Garrett (6,786 comments) says:

    Is it warm enough to swim in the sea at the Mount yet Russell/Red?

    But what am I saying? A macho guy like you would swim all year round, even in storms! In fact I guess you would swim TWICE around the island if there are whitecaps on the ocean?

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  96. Pete George (23,354 comments) says:

    You’re right RB, you posted it with this intro: “Without Gantt Guy’s permission, I’ve used his excellent comment on General Debate section as a post.”

    Without saying anything about obvious nonsense.

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  97. Steve (North Shore) (4,524 comments) says:

    Who in Labour is the one who says the Truth can not report on the open sessions of the Labour Party Conference?
    Is it Shearer? is it Mallard? is it Little? is it Aunty Helen?
    Who the fuck is telling a newspaper that they can not report?
    And these cork soakers want to run the Country, hahahaha!!!!!

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  98. Dirty Rat (383 comments) says:

    wasnt he banned from the National Party one a few years ago ?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10659356

    “Blogger Cameron Slater AKA Whaleoil has been denied media privileges at today’s National Party conference in what he believes is a backlash from Prime Minister John Key’s office against his attacks on party president Peter Goodfellow.

    Mr Slater was to have been reporting on the conference for TV3′s The Nation but yesterday confirmed his application for media accreditation had been refused.”

    That was in his days as a front line TV reporter

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