General Debate 10th November 2012

November 10th, 2012 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Pete George (21,789 comments) says:

    Leak of Shearer’s conference speech – gobsmacking

    Shearer…march to the podium, tear up his speech, ignore the autocue, and say …

    “Fuck it, let’s tell the truth. We’ve failed you for four years, and you’re frustrated with that failure, and so am I, and it’s time we faced up to it.

    I’m tired of trying to say what somebody else in the caucus wants me to say, and then saying something different later, and ending up saying nothing and going nowhere, that’s not why I returned to this country and got into politics, so here’s what I really feel, and you can decide if you want to hear it, and if you don’t, get somebody else – but at least you’ll know where I stand …”

    Here, sadly, is the full story.

    And here is the same old slogan droning – Shearer Says #whatever – that is likely to be repeated at the conference.

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  2. Keeping Stock (9,786 comments) says:

    The Government’s pragmatism over the revised ETS and Kyoto is a step in the right direction. But there is still some way to go before National completely abandons the madness.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/pragmatic-politics.html

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  3. Sofia (776 comments) says:

    Australian banks made $772 profit for every person in New Zealand this year – with a large chunk of it heading over the Tasman.
    The “super” profits have sparked outcry from unions and the Greens -
    - who say the big four Australian banks are milking the New Zealand economy.

    The question the Greens should really ask, to start with, is –
    How do interest rates and fees for ordinary customers in Australia compare to those in New Zealand?

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  4. jaba (2,068 comments) says:

    the question is Sofia is what would Labour and the melons do about .. buy back the banks or what?

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  5. David Garrett (5,119 comments) says:

    PG: Your link to the “full story” doesn’t work

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  6. Pete George (21,789 comments) says:

    Thanks DG, got my links mixed up. Full story: Leak of Shearer’s conference speech – gobsmacking

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  7. Manolo (12,607 comments) says:

    The officer should be fired for being so thick: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7931457/Skateboarder-avoids-WOF-fine

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  8. Manolo (12,607 comments) says:

    AGW will make coffee disappear. More doom and gloom from the warmists and weathermongers: http://news.msn.com/science-technology/climate-change-threatens-wild-arabica-coffee

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  9. Longknives (4,039 comments) says:

    Seeing as how the Pope is always being held to account shouldn’t the Education Minister make a public apology for these perverts?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10846381

    Note he teaches Maori Language…..

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  10. iMP (2,143 comments) says:

    BOB PARKER’s new book out. Let the Chch mayoral race begin…

    http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/chch-mayor-re-election/

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  11. jaba (2,068 comments) says:

    CIA Director David Petraeus resigns after admitting to an extra-marital affair, U.S. government source tells CNN.

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  12. flipper (3,261 comments) says:

    Young in the Herald today has a good piece on John Key.

    He declines to back down (the snide Young (Young also misquotes him) side comments notwithstanding), and actually tells the vacuous MSM how irrelevant they have become vis a vis the great unwashed.

    Worth reading.

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  13. questions (129 comments) says:

    “Longknives: Note he teaches Maori Language…..”

    Don’t you mean fucking ni…..

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  14. flipper (3,261 comments) says:

    Heh folks….
    That self important pompus prat, and red melon list MP Graham. K , says the Givernment is committing ecocide by pulling back on the Kyoto crap.

    Assuming that is true (which it is not because Kyoto, like AGW/CC is bullshit), ecocide as he calls it is preferable to what he would inflict on New Zealand.

    What is that? ECONOCIDE. ECONOCIDE, you self centred prat Graham.

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  15. Reid (15,498 comments) says:

    CIA Director David Petraeus resigns after admitting to an extra-marital affair, U.S. government source tells CNN.

    Yes and what sort of complete and utter bollocks is that. What’s the real reason? Maybe this?

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  16. questions (129 comments) says:

    Reid, appears your link isn’t working!

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  17. Reid (15,498 comments) says:

    Link to my above:
    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/11/06/benghazigate-good-god-almighty-did-obama-and-cia-arm-terrorists-who-murdered-our-ambassador/

    flipper, from Young’s piece in the Herald on Key:

    He is said to give his ministers a lot of freedom and is very relaxed with them, right up to the time he needs to be ruthless, as one insider put it.

    Like a soft parent, he doesn’t do a lot of reprimanding of ministers, so that when it does happen, it carries a lot of force.

    Key is emphatic that he will fight the 2014 election, dismissing claims by commentators that he has somehow lost his mojo. But that doesn’t stop him talking about legacies.

    A masterpiece of dissembling from Young. In the first sentence she reminds us he’s ruthless and therefore not very nice – to contradict his public image. In the second she says he’s soft and NZer’s hate soft PM’s. That’s one main reason why English never got any traction and is the main reason why Rowling never did either. All our leaders always have a streak of hardness. In the third she pretends he might not hang around.

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  18. Pete George (21,789 comments) says:

    Vernon Small puts David Shearer’s future on the line at the Labour conference.

    Shearer’s first conference speech may be his last
    Just short of his first anniversary as leader, David Shearer delivers his first speech to a Labour Party conference next week.

    But as storm clouds gather over his leadership, it is shaping as possibly his last.

    Members, activists and unionists contacted for this article said over and over that the speech at the Ellerslie racecourse conference centre next Sunday was crucial to Shearer’s grip on the leadership.

    His first priority is to convince the party rank and file that “he has what it takes” – and those grassroots members will be looking for a hard-hitting address taking the fight to the Government while outlining a clear and personal view of where he intends to take Labour

    Unless he can carry that off, the groundswell in the party is set to break into the open with a push for a leadership challenge, most likely when the caucus meets in February – or even sooner, according to one business lobbyist in close contact with the party.

    And Duncan Garner and Colin James have just discussed the same on The Nation.

    The Labour conference will be a high pressure occasion for Shearer, perhaps make or break. That doesn’t make it easy for him to come across naturally and express an open and honest self.

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  19. Reid (15,498 comments) says:

    More on Petraeus. He resigned just days before he was going to testify to Congress about Benghazi:

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/09/source-cia-director-david-petraeus-submits-resignation-over-extra-marital-affair/

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  20. Fletch (5,712 comments) says:

    Reid, hmmm, I wonder how that came out.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if the Obama team brought this to light. They are proficient at this. In fact, Obama wouldn’t have got anywhere politically if David Axelrod had not repeatedly dug up divorce records etc of anyone Obama was running against.

    Obama’s usual campaign method, used in 100 percent of his races, has been to pry into the private records of his opponents.

    [...]

    Let’s take a romp down memory lane and review the typical Obama campaign strategy. Obama became a U.S. senator only by virtue of David Axelrod’s former employer, the Chicago Tribune, ripping open the sealed divorce records of Obama’s two principal opponents.

    One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader. But then the Chicago Tribune leaked the claim that Hull’s second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings.

    Those records were under seal, but as The New York Times noted: “The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had ‘worked aggressively behind the scenes’ to push the story.” Many people said Axelrod had “an even more significant role — that he leaked the initial story.”

    Both Hull and his ex-wife opposed releasing their sealed divorce records, but they finally relented in response to the media’s hysteria — 18 days before the primary. Hull was forced to spend four minutes of a debate detailing the abuse allegation in his divorce papers, explaining that his ex-wife “kicked me in the leg and I hit her shin to try to get her to not continue to kick me.”

    After having held a substantial lead just a month before the primary, Hull’s campaign collapsed with the chatter about his divorce. Obama sailed to the front of the pack and won the primary. Hull finished third with 10 percent of the vote.
    As luck would have it, Obama’s opponent in the general election had also been divorced! Jack Ryan was tall, handsome, Catholic — and shared a name with one of Harrison Ford’s most popular onscreen characters! He went to Dartmouth, Harvard Law and Harvard Business School, made hundreds of millions of dollars as a partner at Goldman Sachs, and then, in his early 40s, left investment banking to teach at an inner city school on the South Side of Chicago.

    Ryan would have walloped Obama in the Senate race. But at the request of — again — the Chicago Tribune, California Judge Robert Schnider unsealed the custody papers in Ryan’s divorce five years earlier from Hollywood starlet Jeri Lynn Ryan, the bombshell Borg on “Star Trek: Voyager.”

    Jack Ryan had released his tax records. He had released his divorce records. But both he and his ex-wife sought to keep the custody records under seal to protect their son.

    Amid the 400 pages of filings from the custody case, Jack Ryan claimed that his wife had had an affair, and she counterclaimed with the allegation that he had taken her to “sex clubs” in Paris, New York and New Orleans, which drove her to fall in love with another man.

    (Republicans: If you plan a career in public office, please avoid marrying a wacko.)

    Ryan had vehemently denied her allegations at the time, but it didn’t matter. The sex club allegations aired on “Entertainment Tonight,” “NBC Nightly News,” ABC’s “Good Morning America,” “The Tonight Show With Jay Leno,” and NBC’s “Today” show. CNN covered the story like it was the first moon landing.

    (Interestingly, international papers also were ablaze with the story — the same newspapers that were supposed to be so bored with American sexual mores during Bill Clinton’s sex scandal.)

    Four days after Judge Schnider unsealed the custody records, Ryan dropped out of the race for the horror of (allegedly) propositioning his own wife and then taking “no” for an answer.

    Alan Keyes stepped in as a last-minute Republican candidate.

    And that’s how Obama became a U.S. senator. He destroyed both his Democratic primary opponent and his Republican general election opponent with salacious allegations about their personal lives taken from “sealed” court records.

    Obama’s team delved into Sarah Palin’s marriage and spread rumors of John McCain’s alleged affair in 2008 and they smeared Herman Cain in 2011 with hazy sexual harassment allegations all emanating from David Axelrod’s pals in Chicago.

    It’s almost like a serial killer’s signature. Unsealed personal records have been released to the press. Obama must be running for office!

    They didn’t have anything on Romney though, because he was so clean-cut, so they went after his tax records.

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  21. mister nui (880 comments) says:

    Sofia, the stupidity of that article about profits made by Australian banks in NZ, is that it neglects one very important point – How much of that profit was returned to New Zealanders by way of dividends.

    I personally received far more than the $772 quoted, by way of dividend, as will have many other kiwis that hold stock in the banks. What about all the Kiwisaver funds that hold stock in the big 4 aussie banks?

    This is where the fuckwits that pass for journalists in this country really fail the people. Just printing a Green party press release, without any economic understanding or considering the flipside. Somebody needs to call them out on this.

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  22. questions (129 comments) says:

    oh Reid, just a link to a bunch of neo-nazis… didn’t really need that!

    Thought it might be something reality based, rather than the constant impotent rant about a supposed but actually non existent scandal in Benghazi.

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  23. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    Re Bob Parker for Mayor..he’s history..toast next years election, him and his bum buddy Tony Marryott have basically been running the show between the two of them and showing a single finger to the ratepayers and Councillors of Christchurch when questioned.

    Sorry Bob, Tony..your services are no longer required come 2013. Good riddance and don’t let the door hit both your arses on the way out.

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  24. Harriet (4,001 comments) says:

    Pete George#

    “Fuck it, let’s tell the truth. We’ve failed you for four years, and you’re frustrated with that failure, and so am I, and it’s time we faced up to it….”

    They’ve failed us since Douglas left and it’s time they faced up to it!

    Labour talk about ‘poverty’ being the underpinning fact in all negative statistics in society, however the poorest youth in NZ are actually ALL at university. Students have next to no income, massive debt, and face the probability of no job in a weakening economy when they leave our universties. From a business point of view, that is a lot of risk on their table. And only business can help fix that.

    Poor people under the Clarke Labour government, and when the international market economy was pissing down money, had no net wealth then, so they will certainly not be any better off under the next tax spending labour government in the current international economic enviroment.

    Clarke has proved that socialism doesn’t work!

    Labour are gone for another 3yrs.

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  25. Minnie1972 (42 comments) says:

    “The officer should be fired for being so thick: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7931457/Skateboarder-avoids-WOF-fine

    Manolo, I agree, it would have been helpful had he written the correct ticket, however the whining of a 33 year old skateboarder who shouldn’t have been skating in the CBD is pathetic. To “Boltme”: You WERE actually in the wrong. Always amazes me how these kind of halfwits whinge to the paper. You got let off the ticket – it was a mistake. What a non story. Yawn…

    PS: I must admit an immediate feeling of irritation with a 33 year old skateboarder who has changed his name to “Boltme”… lol

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  26. gander (80 comments) says:

    Manolo, Minnie,

    Aren’t you missing the real point here?

    “The 33-year-old father of two challenged the ticket. . .”

    This dropkick has reproduced!

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  27. Johnboy (13,335 comments) says:

    For all you folk that obviously have nothing better to do cause otherwise you would all be elsewhere check out Sky 73 at 13.45.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_River_Plate

    Might be good stuff! :)

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  28. Manolo (12,607 comments) says:

    gandre, while understanding we are not talking about Einstein here, I object to the ridiculous, bureaucratic, nanny-state idea a skate needs a WOF.

    If the law is an ass, the officers should have exercised his common sense.

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  29. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    The bankers thought they got rid of him.

    Now Grayson back to kick their collective asses again.

    He’s not perfect, but at least we have one guy who can intelligently point our what lying thieves they are in a Congressional hearing room. We’ve got to start somewhere.

    http://www.realecontv.com/videos/free-and-ethical-markets/alan-grayson-back-in-congress.html

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  30. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    “Sorry Bob, Tony..your services are no longer required come 2013. Good riddance and don’t let the door hit both your arses on the way out.”

    If Tony Marriott is a CEO he’s non elected. He’s hired

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  31. Manolo (12,607 comments) says:

    Petraeus letter: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/11/09/gen-petraeus-letter-resignation/

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  32. Reid (15,498 comments) says:

    See this dissembly on the Savile scandal:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230292/BBC-apologises-falsely-claiming-Tory-peer-Lord-McAlpine-care-home-paedophile-Newsnight-investigations-suspended.html

    Meesham said:

    ‘After seeing a picture of the individual concerned, this is not the person I identified by a photograph presented to me by the police in the early 1990s, who told me the man in the photograph was Lord McAlpine.’

    So the media is now spinning the line that it was all false – which is how they’ll make it go away. Isn’t that clever.

    Manolo, people who think need to ask themselves, why would anyone resign these days apart from a politician, because they had an extra-marital affair. I mean so what, is the reaction of most people today.

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  33. Johnboy (13,335 comments) says:

    About to start folks. HMNZS Achilles, Edward Parry in command.

    Relive our glory days before we piked out from our responsibilities under the disgusting Helen people! :)

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  34. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    why would anyone resign these days apart from a politician, because they had an extra-marital affair.

    Because they hold a position where sound judgement, and the perception of having sound judgement, is important to the role, the respect of the employees, the respect of the public and respect for the institution

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  35. cha (3,523 comments) says:

    Looks like Petraeus was banging his biographer and there’s an investigation under way into her supposed access to his e-mails.

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  36. Redbaiter (6,463 comments) says:

    Ha the boofhead cha and his left media addiction.

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  37. questions (129 comments) says:

    Manolo (8,130) Says: “I object to the ridiculous, bureaucratic, nanny-state idea a skate needs a WOF.

    If the law is an ass, the officers should have exercised his common sense.”

    No common sense needed, skate boards, bikes, roller blades, (shoes?), are not required to have WOF’s, the officer acted entirely unlawfully in giving the ticket.

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  38. Johnboy (13,335 comments) says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_of_the_River_Plate_%28film%29

    A bit more for all you sad little c***s that have forgotten our illustrious heritage!! :)

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  39. Johnboy (13,335 comments) says:

    The best part of these old movies is that almost everyone had a pipe or a fag hanging out of their gobs! :)

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  40. Reid (15,498 comments) says:

    Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society:

    Obama’s agenda: Clowett and Piven
    http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/obama-s-agenda–overwhelm-the-system-95716764.html

    As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they’re alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival … and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

    The future for the US:
    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-politicians-we-have-chosen-reflect-who-we-are-as-a-nation

    Some of us have seen it Johnboy :)

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  41. Johnboy (13,335 comments) says:

    You are obviously very old like me Reid! :)

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  42. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Ha the boofhead cha and his left media addiction.

    How about commenting on the issue?

    (Just had to scratch that itch didn’t you you sad old obsessive?)

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  43. BlueGriffon (204 comments) says:

    Check out this new John Lewis ad filmed here in lil ol NZ, beautiful!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2229906/John-Lewis-unveil-Christmas-advert-2012-A-snowmans-secret-journey.html

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  44. Johnboy (13,335 comments) says:

    The fire gongs before the main armament lets go is a very scary thing.

    Bet we won’t get fire gongs before Barry launches the missiles? :)

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  45. Johnboy (13,335 comments) says:

    He will of course only launch them if the bleeding heart folks think it’s a good idea! :)

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  46. MT_Tinman (2,790 comments) says:

    Johnboy (9,365) Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
    He will of course only launch them if the bleeding heart folks think it’s a good idea!

    Or, of course, if he has to admit he has received a bj from the latest Monica-type.

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  47. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    “If Tony Marriott is a CEO he’s non elected. He’s hired”

    ..and his contract is up soon…as I said, dont let the door..

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  48. Johnboy (13,335 comments) says:

    Captain Langsdorf is getting close to topping himself. I must go.

    And he wasn’t even a high profile barrister….?????? :) :)

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  49. calendar girl (1,108 comments) says:

    The “Herald” is sinking to new lows.

    This week Michele Hewitson’s weekly Interview page in the “Weekend Herald” is devoted 100% to one media person (Hewitson)) interviewing another media person (Cameron Bennett). “… I was after a story about his own glittering career.”

    In their endless quest for trivia, do our media never deviate from their inane, disproportionate and tiresome adulation of supposed celebrity?

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  50. gopolks (102 comments) says:

    Glad to see their are nice, cool people left in the world.

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  51. Minnie1972 (42 comments) says:

    questions (65) Says:
    November 10th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    No common sense needed, skate boards, bikes, roller blades, (shoes?), are not required to have WOF’s, the officer acted entirely unlawfully in giving the ticket.

    Absolutely – of course a skateboard doesn’t need a WOF – however, how did the officer act unlawfully exactly? He made a mistake – the ticket is null, but it’s not “unlawful”.

    gander (57) at 12:54 pm

    Touché! ;)

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  52. Manolo (12,607 comments) says:

    Just what NZ needs to run a mile from this scam: http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8562231/un-leader-praises-australias-climate-lead

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  53. chiz (1,090 comments) says:

    Hank the cat, a 9-year old Maine Coon, may have come third in the US senate race in Virgina.

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  54. Johnboy (13,335 comments) says:

    An older Hawaiian Coon came first. :)

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  55. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    One Network News reports a survey returned overwhelming support for retaining the monarch as sovereign. Support for a republic dropped to only 19%. Good to see JK once again expressing unequivocal support for retaining the monarchy.

    God save the Queen!

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  56. Manolo (12,607 comments) says:

    There are doubts about the Hawaiian pet: it’s suspected it was born in Kenya. :D

    To DPF’s eternal dismay: God save the Queen, indeed!

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  57. nasska (9,471 comments) says:

    Make a statement when you go out.

    Ref: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rsultan/the-most-offensive-costume-in-the-world

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  58. mikenmild (8,721 comments) says:

    Johnboy
    Ever see that great River Plate display in the old Maritime Museum?

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  59. nasska (9,471 comments) says:

    Friendship Between Women:

    A woman didn’t come home one night. The next day she
    told her husband that she had slept over at a girlfriend’s
    house. The man called his wife’s 10 best friends.
    None of them knew anything about it.

    Friendship Between Men:

    A man didn’t come home one night. The next day he told his
    wife that he had slept over at a mate’s house. The woman
    called her husband’s 10 best friends. Eight of them confirmed
    that he had slept over, and two claimed that he was still there.

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  60. Harriet (4,001 comments) says:

    Nasska #

    Once upon a time there was a schoolboy who went by the name of Sindafella, and he was soon going to attend his first formal school ball. He lived with his mum and he was gay.

    On the day of the school ball he approached his mum and said “Mum, I don’t have anything to wear.” His mum being the mum she was, threw some star dust in the air and POOF – Sindafella was spontanously dressed in a pair of electric blue rhinestone spangled underpants and a pair of red cordial coloured chapps. In his mouth was a flourescent green dummy.

    Stuck in his arse was an orange coloured butt plug. As he was about to wave his mother good-bye she said “Enjoy your school ball Sindafella but remember, if you attempt to take out that butt plug or if you don’t return home by midnight, then it will turn into a 3kg pumpkin.” Sindafella acknowledged the advice, waved his mother good-bye, and minced off to the ball.

    Midnight came and went, the hands of the clock went through 2am, then 4am, and at 6am in marched Sindafella. His mother being concerned said “Sindafella I am beside myself, are you O.K?” He replied “Yes mum I couldn’t be happier, I have meet a lovely male friend.”

    Anyway Nasska, that is the original story of Cinderella and how nursery rhymes came to include peter peter pumpkin eater.

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  61. nasska (9,471 comments) says:

    And we’re all the richer for having it explained. :)

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  62. Reid (15,498 comments) says:

    Something to watch for, geopolitically:

    http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/benjamin-fulford

    Chinese investment in real world companies, as opposed to worthless paper like T-bills that get inflated out of existence by, oh gee, things like QE…

    [sarc]Hopefully no-one needs any explanation on Ben Fulford.[/sarc]

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  63. Reid (15,498 comments) says:

    More geopolitics: the Israel-US dynamic:

    http://www.texemarrs.com/102012/report_not_false_flag.htm

    Almost two years ago, I disclosed that Barack Obama had shocked Washington, D.C. insiders by firing his White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, and sending him packing back to Chicago. It was, after all, billionaire Jews that were the mentors and money men for Obama. Yet, here he was asserting his independence from the Zionists…

    Sources reveal that the draft report entitled “Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East,” currently in form as a “talking paper,” formulated by the US Intelligence Community, is in fact making the rounds in Washington. The Neocons and Israel are crazed in anger because of the negative implications of this report for the Zionist Middle East and global agendas. What is in the report reveals what many of the loyal, pro-American Intel specialists in D.C., in the academic community, and among the Pentagon’s military brass privately think and are saying.

    President Obama’s actions in refusing to attack Iran and in snubbing Netanyahu, and those of the Chairman of the JCS, General Martin Dempsey, in putting Netanyahu and the IDF in their place, give credence to the fact that America’s attitude and foreign policy strategy regarding Israel is rapidly changing…

    …Even if this “talking paper” draft were eventually derailed and discarded as a result of the Zionists’ ongoing frantic efforts to kill it, its draft form would still bear legitimacy because it was originated by respected professionals in the US Intelligence Community, among which are pro-American elements vociferously opposed to Netanyahu and the Israeli crazies. In any event, the findings of the report are critical in that Israel is characterized as both a liability and as a drain on American resources and credibility in the Middle East region and across the globe….

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  64. chiz (1,090 comments) says:

    Almost two years ago, I disclosed that Barack Obama had shocked Washington, D.C. insiders by firing his White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, and sending him packing back to Chicago.

    And all this time everyone thought that Emanuel resigned, of his own volition, to pursue his own political ambitions. Doesn’t say much for the credibility of your link Reid.

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  65. chiz (1,090 comments) says:

    Meanwhile, a new claim for why Romney lost – it was the software’s fault!

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  66. Reid (15,498 comments) says:

    And all this time everyone thought that Emanuel resigned, of his own volition, to pursue his own political ambitions. Doesn’t say much for the credibility of your link Reid.

    Since when has the opinions, beliefs and thoughts of the sheeple ever been relevant or true in anything of import chiz? Haven’t you ever studied history?

    Here’s another thing the sheeple missed:

    The attempted Whitehouse coup: Prescott Bush in the 1930′s:

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  67. publicwatchdog (1,801 comments) says:

    Seems that the John Ansell ‘Colourblind’ Party launch today was arguably an epic FAIL?

    About 70 turned up at the Greenlane Christian Centre (which can seat 650).

    I know – because I was one of them.

    Like the banners?

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151097353391790&set=a.435980066789.221068.727511789&type=1&theater

    Asking the HARD questions from inside this ‘public’ meeting.

    Given Mr Ansell’s background in the ACT Party, how come this ‘ONE LAW FOR ALL’ that Mr Ansell purportedly supports hasn’t applied to the former and current ACT Party Leaders Don Brash and John Banks, who as former fellow Directors of Huljich Wealth Management (NZ) Ltd, equally signed Huljich Kiwisaver Scheme Registered Prospectuses dated 22 August 2008 and 18 September 2009, which contained untrue statements, but were never charged by any regulatory body for this strict liability offence? (s.58(3) of the Securities Act).

    Penny Bright

    ‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

    http://www.penybright4epsom.org.nz

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  68. Yvette (2,589 comments) says:

    Penny
    For God’s sake woman, what the fuck is wrong with you?

    You have raised your ACT Party, ‘ONE LAW FOR ALL’ having not applied to the former and current ACT Party Leaders Don Brash and John Banks, who as former fellow Directors of Huljich Wealth Management (NZ) Ltd, equally signed Huljich Kiwisaver Scheme Registered Prospectuses dated 22 August 2008 and 18 September 2009, which contained untrue statements, but were never charged by any regulatory body for this strict liability offence? (s.58(3) of the Securities Act).

    • with the SFO

    • the Finance Markets Authority (FMA)

    • the former Securities Commission who FIVE times went to Crown Law for advice and FOUR times to an independent QC for advice

    • the New Zealand Police

    • and Petition 2011/5 of Penelope Mary Bright and 307 others, to the Commerce Select Committee of the New Zealand Parliament
    and have exonerated John Banks in each of these considerations of your accusations

    Penny, you have completely cleared John Banks of any wrongdoing in connection with the Huljich Kiwisaver Scheme Registered Prospectuses dated 22 August 2008 and 18 September 2009

    To now continue to seek to change these firm legal opinions which you have elicited from each of these authorities can only lead to the conclusion that you, Penny, are suffering from some mental disposition that is hampering your personal growth.
    In that most people who do one thing and get a certain result, repeat the same action and get yet the same fucking result once more, they then tend to move one – change their game plan. Try it, Penny, for our sake, God’s sake, and your own preservation of sanity.
    Penny, stop being so batshit gay about John Banks. Move 0n … :-)

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  69. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Isn’t Banks in court this week over the Dotcom thing? ”Moving on” seems to be trite saying for lets not look too closely and certainly don’t right any wrongs..Eventually , Banks will be outed.

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  70. Yvette (2,589 comments) says:

    Joana – If John Banks is in court this week in relation to Dotcom, that may be new and of interest, but the matter referred to above, the Huljich Kiwisaver Scheme Registered Prospectuses, has been examined at Penny’s instigation by FIVE authorities, each establishing John Banks has nothing to answer. There is nothing trite in that, nor in saying now regarding those matters, move on.

    The Police Report on Bank’s mayor campaign returns does show an inaccurate return was made and signed by Banks. The problem there is that the Opposition, including Winston, lack the intelligence to frame a Parliamentary Question to reveal that, and his evasion in asking for a donation to be made in $25,000 amounts to be ‘lost’ or ‘anonymous’ among the others he knew to be there.
    That is an entirely different matter to Penny’s Huljich obsession – and it is revealed as an obsession since she continues to mention it after she has had FIVE authorities clear Banks’ name.

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  71. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    Well said Yvette. Go back to the water turning on thing Penny. That’s a protest worth following up on. This because you’re attacking a philosophy not one person who has been exonerated by everyone including Santa.

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