General Debate 12 November 2012

November 12th, 2012 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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132 Responses to “General Debate 12 November 2012”

  1. meh (165 comments) says:

    roll on monday, time for another week. Another chance for clare curran to put her foot in her mouth over the southern cross cable..

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  2. kowtow (8,770 comments) says:

    Last night TVNZ1 news at 6 led with the pretty minor story of a yachtie rescue. Then they covered the Royal visit by the future HoS.
    Was this a deliberate snub?The reporteress covering the Armistice memorial made the point that “less than” a thousand attended. Why not say ….nearly a thousand attended? A negative slant on display.

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  3. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    kowtow,

    Was she wearing a white poppy?

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  4. Lance (2,714 comments) says:

    @kowtow
    Maybe an MSM slight.
    More like remembrance day for NZers is ANZAC day, I would have been pissed if ANZAC day came second to a cat stuck up a tree. The 11/11 doesn’t really register for me, no more than the US remembrance day.

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  5. calendar girl (1,265 comments) says:

    They were both pretty minor stories to introduce what is supposedly the country’s leading TV news programme. And I agree, Lance, that 25 April is our national day of remembrance.

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  6. big bruv (14,148 comments) says:

    More unbelievable arrogance from the NZ rugby team this morning in Scotland. On remembrance day some of the NZ players chose not to wear a poppy on their tracksuits, nor did the team playing strip did not have the poppy on it. It seems that these days it is more important to wear the sponsors logo than it is to show respect for the fallen.

    I also noted that when the match ball was carried onto the field by the great Sir Christopher Hoy the NZ team chose to snub him and decided to line up waiting for the match to start, of course this might have been more acceptable had they arrogant NZ team not insisted that the Scottish team stand and wait for the NZ team to perform their tedious rain dance prior to the game starting.

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  7. Keeping Stock (10,431 comments) says:

    Not that you’re a neutral observer when it comes to the All Blacks, eh big bruv…

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  8. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    Many of us would drift into neutral observer status if it wasn’t for the cringe making haka the prima donnas inflict on everyone at every opportunity.

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  9. Keeping Stock (10,431 comments) says:

    Anne Tolley wants to set up a New Zealand version of the UK’s Sex Offender Register. It’s bound to upset the civil liberties folk, but I have no problem with it whatsoever. Actions have consequences, and being pegged as a sex offender is a very good consequence for those who break the law.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/good-stuff-from-tolley.html

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  10. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    The MSM reflects our current leadership vacuum that we have.

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  11. Chuck Bird (4,924 comments) says:

    Very interesting documentary on Sunday at 7pm about Dotcom.

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  12. Yvette (2,849 comments) says:

    The link between orgasms and health is not unexplored. Some have argued that orgasms have significant health benefits, and “The Longevity Project,” a book about an eight-decade study of long-life factors, observed that women with higher frequency of orgasm during sex lived longer.

    But assuming robots can do it better than humans, is there necessarily a correlation between the quality of orgasm and longevity? Or is frequency of climax the most important factor?

    If the latter is the case, then a sex robot’s superior skills in the sack might be less of a game changer than the fact that a sexbot will never be too tired or unwilling to get it on.

    “[Sexbots will] be more desirable, patient, eager, and altruistic than their meat-bag competition, plus they’ll be uploaded with supreme sex-skills from millennia of erotic manuals, archives and academic experiments, and their anatomy will feature sexplosive devices… They’ll offer us quadruple-tongued cunnilingus, open-throat silky fellatio, deliriously gentle kissing, transcendent nipple tweaking, g-spot massage & prostate milking dexterity, plus 2,000 varieties of coital rhythm with scented lubes.”

    At the moment, it appears humanity will have to wait and see if “shrieking, frothy, bug-eyed, amnesia-inducing orgasms” administered by sex robots provide the key to longevity.

    But it won’t have to wait too long. A scenario envisioned by Victoria University researchers plots the rise of robot prostitutes by 2050, the Dominion Post notes.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/sex-robot-longevity-orgasms-futurists_n_2101893.html
    __________

    The androids would be made of bacteria resistant fibre and would be flushed for human fluids, therefore guaranteeing no STIs are transferred between consumers.
    Clients could feel guilt free as they actually have not had sex with a real person and would not have to lie to their partner.
    ”Robot sex is safer sex, free from the constraints, precautions and uncertainties of the real deal.”
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/6766294/Robot-prostitutes-the-future-of-sex-tourism
    __________

    A crack hit squad has been set up by the IRD to track down thousands of parents who have fled the country and skipped on child support payments.
    … a list of 18,000 defaulters across the Tasman and another 6900 hiding out in other countries.

    And some people think it is same-sex couples who will destroy the sanctity of marriage and society as we know it

    [Thinks: If I find a really good robot, will I be able to marry it?]

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  13. Fairfacts Media (372 comments) says:

    Obama seems to have a grip on the USA as much as Putin has in Russia.
    Though the media seems to be willing accomplices.
    Anyway, let’s see what he has covered up.
    A massive rise in people receiving food stamps, a story mysteriously delayed by the authorities.
    The drone attack, ditto.
    We finally get to hear about the ‘fiscall cliff’ in the media, now the votes are safely gathered in.
    The media promoted their man, showing him hug Chris Christie and a women. Yet, people are still suffering as Sandy becomes Obama’s Katrina. Think how abusive the media would be had there been a Republican in the White House.
    Indeed, the media might have raised more of a fuss about those troops Obama left to die in Benghazi and declined to rescue.
    talking of which, what a coincidence Gen Petreus is resigning at this most convenient time. So what if he slept around. Does his affair means we don’t get to hear his version of events at Benghazi.
    Finally, it is curious the media is calling for the Republicans not to be Republican anymore, so whoever wins, it is always the left.
    If millions of more hispanics are imported then surely that means the importation of more Democratic voters.
    Big business needs to realise that this ‘cheap labour’ comes at a cost of more regulations and a leftist government, which rather undermines their case for mass immigration.
    It is also clear that Republicans stayed at home in there masses, rather than crawl over broken glass to dump Obama, as the conservative blogs kept telling us.
    For the past two elections, the Republicans have had a presidential candidate who was a moderate from the party establishment.
    Both times they lost. Both John McCain and Mitt Romney were both honourable and decent men but they lacked the balls to stand up for their party and beliefs sufficiently, they were unable to articulate a clear vision, they were unable to go for Obama’s jugular.
    The Republicans might do better to find a proper conservative for 2016, remember it was the Tea Party that took them to victory in the 2010 mid-terms. They just need to keep their religious nut jobs at bay.

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  14. Chuck Bird (4,924 comments) says:

    “They just need to keep their religious nut jobs at bay.”

    And traitors as well. If it was not for Chris Christie and the two nut jobs comments about rape Romney may not have won but he would have got a lot more votes.

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  15. ChardonnayGuy (1,215 comments) says:

    Love this quote from Kiwipolitico about the raving right* and the prospect of an Obama victory

    “As the fifth rider of the apocalypse, Obama will bring the end of days, armageddon, leading to the imposition of a debt-ridden, welfare-spending LBGT atheistic Islamofascist Zionist-Stalinist-Orwelian state in which children and the elderly are eaten after being vivisected and animals and dirt will have more rights than natural gas. The walls of the shining White house on the hill will crumble. Locusts will plague and fire will belch from the skies in non-industrial areas as the ground turns to dust and the rivers run dry. The seas will retreat and the icecaps will melt, but not due to man-made climate change. Female sports will become dominant.”

    Love it!!!

    *The raving right is to genteel pluralist conservatism and centre-right social liberalism what the loony left is to mainstream social democrats and environmentalists.

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  16. Lance (2,714 comments) says:

    New Battlestar Galactica series promo
    Looks like they didn’t frack it up, really hot

    http://gizmodo.com/5959178/new-battlestar-galactica-series-start-today++and-it-looks-awesome

    Parts 1 and 2

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  17. ChardonnayGuy (1,215 comments) says:

    I don’t think Christie can be blamed for what happened after Hurricane Sandy- he was trying to behave like a responsible nonpartisan state governor at a time of widespread crisis within New Jersey caused by circumstances. I believe that there’s already talk of him as a prospective Republican presidential nominee in 2016- he certainly seemed to be impressive as an elected official. If McCain had won in 2008 instead and the same thing had happened to a New Jersey Democrat Governor, would there be similar accusations? However, the anti-abortion apparatchiks were definite liabilities.

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  18. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    It is also clear that Republicans stayed at home in there masses

    If that is clear, then they have themselves to blame as the US continues its decline

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  19. dime (10,108 comments) says:

    Bruv – may be ignorance rather than arrogance?

    good of you to watch the all blacks though :) lemme guess. “I just watched hoping they would lose’ blah blah

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  20. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    The beneficiaries are NOT the ones ripping WINZ off!
    Cam like this should be taken to court (then in hi case kicked out of the country). This has been going on for 20 plus years and WINZ still have done nothing about people like this. It happened to me in the early 90s. But Nationals approach is ‘it is ok to ripp WINZ and workers off if you are a business, but god help you if you are a beneficiary and do it. A low income worker steals an apple of 2 and it is of to the police cells, a business steals $40,000 from WINZ and that is ok, they can carry on and do it again and again.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7935849/Boss-fails-to-pass-on-wage-subsidies?cid=edm%3Astuff%3Adailyheadlines
    Boss ‘blacklisted’
    http://www.stuff.co.nz

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  21. dime (10,108 comments) says:

    Dime woke up and watched the last 20 mins of the test.

    One thing that struck me after we scored the last try – 4 or 5 skinny white guys celebrating together. Its the whitest looking all blacks team ive seen for a while.

    i guess theres some maori blood in there!? but in the forwards – vito? maybe coles is maori? in the backs during the last 20.. savea? it was 5am so maybe i missed someone out..

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  22. Lance (2,714 comments) says:

    Yes hinamanu
    You make a credible argument with lines like this;

    “A low income worker steals an apple of 2 and it is of to the police cells,”

    Would anybody bother reading the rest of your drivel after such a gem?

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  23. Chuck Bird (4,924 comments) says:

    “I don’t think Christie can be blamed for what happened after Hurricane Sandy- he was trying to behave like a responsible nonpartisan state governor”

    If he had done that at another time I would agree. During the debates Romney was making a point how he could take a nonpartisan approach. Unless Christie was a total moron he would know it would cost Romney votes and maybe the election. He is probably happy with that as he thinks it will give him a better chance in 2016. The Republicans should dump him.

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  24. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    WINZ need to be forced to take action instead of letting him continue. He needs to be taken to court, he is not even a kiwi, why are we letting him stay in NZ committing these crimes and blaming beneficiaries for ripping WINZ off when it is employers like him? He is not the only one, and it is common practice amongst employers.

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  25. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Well Lance, you’re probably an employer

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  26. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    A car-wash kingpin has been “blacklisted” by Work and Income after taking $40,000 in subsidies to hire workers, then paying them less than the minimum wage.

    Michael “Mick” Willbourne, who operated several car washes across the country including two in Wellington, is also being investigated by the Business, Innovation and Employment Ministry after a multitude of complaints by former employees.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7935849/Boss-fails-to-pass-on-wage-subsidies?cid=edm%3Astuff%3Adailyheadlines

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  27. graham (2,346 comments) says:

    hinamanu: Of course, it is unacceptable for employers or employees to rip anybody off, be it employers ripping off their employees, employees ripping off their employers, someone ripping off IRD or WINZ or whoever.

    But to say that “The beneficiaries are NOT the ones ripping WINZ off!” is rather silly. Most beneficiaries are undoubtedly honest in their dealings, but do you seriously believe that not single one of them is taking the p!ss?

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  28. Lance (2,714 comments) says:

    @graham
    hinamanu is in troll mode, so your logic is wasted I am afraid to say.

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  29. publicwatchdog (2,818 comments) says:

    Seen this Kiwibloggers?

    12 November 2012

    “Housing New Zealand – call off the dogs!”

    Press Release Sue Henry Housing Lobby Spokesperson.

    “The latest Housing New Zealand (HNZ) Statement of Corporate Intent 2012 – 2015, quite rightly sets out the statutory obligations which HNZ is required to follow by law.”

    The Crown Entities Act 2004 stipulates HNZ ” must exhibit a sense of social responsibility by having regard to the interests of the community in which it operates.”

    The principal Housing NZ Corporation Act 1974 also stipulates these very same social responsibility obligations.

    On 5 November 2012 the new CEO of the Tamaki Redevelopment Company, Deborah Lawson stated in a letter to the NZ Herald:

    ‘There has been some confusion about the Tamaki Transformation Programme.
    It does not include the Northern Glen Innes Housing Redevelopment Project. Housing New Zealand is responsible for this.’

    “This is quite correct,” continues Sue Henry.

    “This means HNZ are bulldozing through policies in total conflict with their legislative statutory duties.

    There is no lawful basis for the removal of State houses in Glen Innes North.

    Our community is being ripped apart.

    On what lawful basis are Police enforcing the removal State houses in Glen Innes North?

    The Housing Lobby demands that the unlawful removal of State houses from Glen Innes North cease forthwith, and calls for support from opposition parties for an immediate inquiry into how HNZ has breached its statutory duties.”

    Sue Henry
    Housing Lobby Spokesperson

    Ph (09) 575 6344

    __________________________________________________________________________________________________

    SUMMARY OF THE STATUTORY DUTIES OF HOUSING NZ AS A ‘CROWN AGENT’ UNDER THE HOUSING CORPORATION ACT 1974 AND CROWN ENTITIES ACT 2004:

    1) Housing New Zealand Corporation is a CROWN AGENT ( a type of STATUTORY ENTITY).

    2) The ‘empowering’ legislation for Crown Agent, Housing New Zealand Corporation is the Housing Corporation Act 1974.

    3) As a Crown Agent – Housing New Zealand Corporation comes under the CROWN ENTITIES ACT 2004.

    4) Under the Housing Corporation Act 1974 (s.3B (a) (i) – HNZ has a STATUTORY DUTY to be an organisation that –

    “exhibits a sense of social responsibility by having regard to the interests of the community in which it operates;”

    5) Under the Crown Entities Act 2004, (s.139) as a Crown Agent, HNZ has a statutory duty to prepare a Statement of Intent.

    6) In the HNZ Statement of Intent 2012 – 2015 (pg 25) – it states:

    “The Corporation is accountable under legislation to give effect to the Crown’s social objectives by providing housing, and services related to housing, in a businesslike manner and to exhibit a sense of social responsibility by having regard to the interests of the community in which it operates. ”

    7) Under the Crown Entities Act 2004, (s.14 (1) (a) the functions of HNZ as a ‘Statutory Entity’ are:

    ” the functions set out in the entity’s Act”.

    (The Housing Corporation Act 1974).

    Under the Crown Entities Act 2004, (s.14 (2) )

    ” In performing its functions, a statutory entity must act consistently with its objectives.”

    8) Under the Crown Entities Act 2004 (s.19) – “Acts in breach of statute are invalid”.

    “(1) An act of a statutory entity is invalid, unless section 20 applies, if it is—

    (a) an act that is contrary to, or outside the authority of, an Act; or
    (b) an act that is done otherwise than for the purpose of performing its functions.”
    _________________________________________________________________

    So – how is what HNZ is doing in Glen Innes ” exhibit(ing) a sense of social responsibility by having regard to the
    interests of the community in which it operates”?

    How is HNZ not breaching their statutory duties as defined in the Housing Corporation Act 1974
    (s.3B (a) (i) to be an organisation that –

    “exhibits a sense of social responsibility by having regard to the interests of the community in which it operates;”

    How is HNZ not breaching their statutory duties as defined by the Crown Entities Act 2004, (s.14 (2) )

    ” In performing its functions, a statutory entity must act consistently with its objectives.” ?

    Arguably – the actions of HNZ in removing GI state houses are therefore ‘invalid’ (s. 19 (a) Crown Entities Act 2004) because they are:

    “contrary to, or outside the authority of” the Housing Corporation Act 1974 (s.3B (a) (i) )

    to be an organisation that –

    “exhibits a sense of social responsibility by having regard to the interests of the community in which it operates;”

    and the Crown Entities Act 2004, (s.14 (2)

    ” In performing its functions, a statutory entity must act consistently with its objectives.”

    ___________________________________________________________________________________

    Penny Bright
    ‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

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  30. Ross12 (1,454 comments) says:

    Flipper –you say “It is also clear that Republicans stayed at home in there masses, rather than crawl over broken glass to dump Obama, as the conservative blogs kept telling us. ”
    I’m interested on what you base the comment. I’m not disagreeing with you , just curious.

    There was an idiot on the NBR site over the weekend claiming only 30% of the democratic supporters turnout to vote. Didn’t like it when told basic arithmetic did not support his claim , demanding numbers to prove my comment that the 30% was rubbish. It just shows those wanting basic reading , writing and maths being a priority in lower school are right

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  31. mister nui (1,030 comments) says:

    Penny not so, why not just put all that up on your blog? I’m sure all the people that consider your opinions and views on the world as important will visit on a regular basis. They would hate to miss out, wouldn’t they.

    Rather that than trashing this place with your litter.

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  32. calendar girl (1,265 comments) says:

    hinamanu: “… and blaming beneficiaries for ripping WINZ off when it is employers like him? He is not the only one, and it is common practice amongst employers.”

    Let’s have your hard evidence for that latter allegation. Otherwise you appear to be using extravagant language, if not worse, using one example to accuse employers in general of widespread illegal behaviour.

    I think you know well enough that most employers are decent people who worry about the the survival and success of their business,. The overwhelming majority of them know they won’t achieve successful outcomes without hard-working, well-rewarded and satisfied employees.

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  33. ChardonnayGuy (1,215 comments) says:

    Chuck- Let’s not be too hard on Christie. Like any responsible elected official of any political colouration, his first priority was to assist the people of New Jersey when faced with a meteorological disturbance of unparalleled ferocity and resultant consequent widespread devastation. Commendably, Obama and Romney both politics aside on that occassion in dealing with that calamity. Let us be thankful that it wasn’t another Hurricane Katrina, and that this didn’t happen during the Bush presidency. Unfortunately, sometimes, random chance does throw up challenges during the course of an election campaign- like the Rina shipwreck last year and the benefit to the Greens that resulted in the polls.

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  34. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    The newest version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) includes an amendment that would legalize the use of propaganda on the American public, reports Michael Hastings of BuzzFeed.

    The NDAA Legalizes The Use Of Propaganda On The US Public

    The amendment — proposed by Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) and Adam Smith (D-Wash.) and passed in the House last Friday afternoon — would effectively nullify the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, which explicitly forbids information and psychological operations aimed at influencing U.S. public opinion.

    Thornberry said that the current law “ties the hands of America’s diplomatic officials, military, and others by inhibiting our ability to effectively communicate in a credible way,” according to Buzzfeed.

    The vote came two days after a federal judged ruled that a counter-terrorism provision in the annual defense bill was unconstitutional.

    http://www.secretsofthefed.com/the-ndaa-legalizes-the-use-of-propaganda-on-the-us-public/

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  35. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    “@graham
    hinamanu is in troll mode, so your logic is wasted I am afraid to say.”

    Anyone would think I wrote the story myself

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  36. Keeping Stock (10,431 comments) says:

    Dear DPF

    Could you please do something to stop Penny Bright polluting your once-fine blog with her relentless conspiracy theories, hypocrisy and mindless dribble.

    Many thanks
    The Kiwiblog Faithful

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  37. Lance (2,714 comments) says:

    I second what KS wrote

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  38. Griff (8,194 comments) says:

    Dear DPF

    Could you please do something to stop conservonutters polluting your once-fine blog with their relentless conspiracy theories, hypocrisy and mindless dribble.

    Many thanks
    Griff

    [DPF: General Debate is general]

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  39. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Safe swimming spots set to go online

    Results from weekly testing of water quality of popular Northland swimming spots will be posted online each Friday, starting November 30.

    The Northland Regional Council’s annual summer testing programme – this year involving taking hundreds of samples from 48 coastal and 11 freshwater sites – begins on November 26 and runs until the end of March 2013.

    The results will be on http://www.nrc.govt.nz/swimming with more information available on freephone 0800 002 004. Anyone wanting to report concerns about water quality can ring the NRC’s freephone 24/7 Environmental Hotline, 0800 504 639.

    http://www.northernadvocate.co.nz/news/safe-swimming-spots-set-to-go-online/1617994/

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  40. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    “I second what KS wrote”

    Unless substantiated by media/links

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  41. David Garrett (7,543 comments) says:

    Ah there you are Penny…Still waiting for a simple yes or no answer to my simple question:

    “Do you derive part of your income from a benefit?”

    (NO, I dont, since your usual tactic is respond to a question with another)

    Just answer it Penny! I am happy to keep asking till doomsday if necessary (but then that’s not far away due to “climate change”)

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  42. Griff (8,194 comments) says:

    ps I support the removal of Penny tarnish as she makes no effort to engage and repeats the same old rubbish ad nauseam
    The above comment re conseronutters is made in jest. most do try to justify their weirdness.

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  43. alloytoo (573 comments) says:

    @Penny

    How are you going toward paying off the bills you stiffed council with when you decided to squat in Aotea Square?

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  44. wreck1080 (3,962 comments) says:

    “Government threatens penalties over Novopay saga”

    Not sure it’ll be easy. It depends on the level of government involvement in the project, which I assume is significant.

    And, why did this get through business acceptance and stress testing, presumably signed off by a government representative.

    I bet there is utter incompetence (weak management?) on both sides of this saga.

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  45. RightNow (6,995 comments) says:

    Dear Google Chrome,

    Please hurry up and get a RIP feature.

    Regards,

    My scroll wheel finger

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  46. Griff (8,194 comments) says:

    Ha posted a retraction before your light smack DPF :grin:

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  47. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    http://gizadeathstar.com/2012/11/the-list-has-grown-switzerland-the-netherlands-and-ecuador-join-germany-in-calls-for-audits-of-their-gold/#ixzz2BpaCHvE6

    The calls for full audits, and in some cases, repatriation, of foreign gold reserves being held by the New York Federal Reserve are growing, as now Switzerland, the Netherlands, and Ecuador have joined Germany in those calls and in Ecuador’s case, repatriation, of its gold:

    German Calls for Gold Repatriation Intensify As Fed Refuses to Allow Inspection

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  48. b1gdaddynz (279 comments) says:

    Dime-Tamati Ellison was playing in 12

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  49. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    ps I support the removal of Penny tarnish as she makes no effort to engage and repeats the same old rubbish ad nauseam

    Griff, I would have like her removed myself, but then I considered what was more important, her right to express her views, or me being too lazy to scroll the page. I say keep the crazy bitch.

    I never read her drivel, simply because she will not engage with other contributors on KB. She is by far my lest favourite.

    Even you guys in the, AGW Doomsday Cult, try and explain your position to others. ;)

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  50. emmess (1,432 comments) says:

    Even the Beeb thinks relative poverty is a bullshit measurement
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20255904

    This sentence encapsulates the issue

    For example, after the financial crash in Ireland in 2008, the number of people in poverty fell because the median – or middle – income of the whole society had decreased.

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  51. iMP (2,422 comments) says:

    Growing talk of Secession in America. Interesting to watch. I think this might be something, but watch this space.

    http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/15-states-join-growing-secession-talk/

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  52. Fairfacts Media (372 comments) says:

    Here’s an example of the phrase ‘broken glass voters’, which was a common expression used on conservative blogs.
    http://theregularguybelieves.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/broken-glass-voters.html

    As for Chris Christie, he might have thought he was been a governor for all with his support for Obama.
    But he should have realised how this would have been spun as backing Obama, making Him look presidential, ectc.
    He should have realised his actions would have weakened Romney.
    Thus, Chris Christie either was being a traitor or he showed grave misjudgement.
    Either way, he has blown it for me, unless over the next couple of years he becomes an unstaoppable election winning machine.
    Trouble is, as I said earlier, the Republican establishment have gone for centrist candidates to believing they were electable.
    And on both occasions they have failed badly.

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  53. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    Warning of mass deforestation after govt’s Kyoto pull-out

    Monday, 12, Nov, 2012 5:07AM

    A warning of mass deforestation, now that the Government is walking away from the Kyoto Protocol.

    Climate Change Minister Tim Groser says as of next year New Zealand will align climate change efforts with countries that are collectively responsible for 85 percent of global emissions.

    Kyoto Forestry Association spokesman Roger Dickie says that decision will lead to foresters cutting down trees and looking at the use of their land for a better return.

    “The sad thing is that the forest industry will soon surpass tourism, (will) be our second biggest export industry and yet there will be massive deforestation. So it’s totally against what the government themselves said when they came into power.”

    Mr Dickie says the Government had promised that foresters would get their carbon credits and on that basis people invested in forestry.

    “Some people have invested large amounts in carbon forests, based on the government policy and what they were saying. For some people they’ll lose tens of millions I would think. Everybody feels totally let down by the government’s decision.”

    Roger Dickie says the Emissions Trading Scheme now has no muscle and will disappear down the gurgler.
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    so another scam and its users bite the dust.
    No sympathy and those that sold their credits should be required now to front up to the taxpayer.

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  54. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Several conclusions Bernard Hickey announces which Garath Morgan endorses

    The Central government and local government must urgently work together to build 50,000 new homes in Auckland and Christchurch – The combination of the market and local council regulation has clearly failed to deliver the affordable housing desperately needed to put some pressure downwards on house prices and make New Zealand an attractive place to live.

    Rewrite the Reserve Bank Act to allow it to target other variables than inflation – These other targets should include a combination of the exchange rate, employment levels, the current account deficit, inflation and wages. Inflation targeting is now widely discredited overseas, yet the orthodox dominates at the Reserve Bank and Treasury.

    Rewrite the Reserve Bank Act to allow it to buy government bonds directly from the government – This would allow the Reserve Bank to finance the government deficit once interest rates are cut to the lower bound of % and avoid deflation. It also removes the financing restriction for rebuilding Christchurch’s infrastructure and Auckland’s infrastructure, including housing. It may not be necessary just yet, but we’re not far off given the current trends with employment, inflation, the global economy and the budget deficit.

    Run a deficit for longer – The government needs to abandon its budget surplus target for 2014/15. Moody’s has already said it would not downgrade New Zealand’s credit rating if this happened and last year’s credit rating downgrades by Fitch and Standard and Poor’s did not lead to interest rate increases.

    http://garethsworld.com/blog/economics/housing-boom-figures-should-convince-government-to-put-its-hands-back-on-the-steering-wheel/

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  55. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    Chardonnay Gay, Kiwiblog’s own pet emissary for the US liberal media.

    Yawn…..

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  56. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    “The sad thing is that the forest industry will soon surpass tourism, (will) be our second biggest export industry and yet there will be massive deforestation.

    This shows the level of thinking behind AGW supporters.

    They seemed horrified to learn that foresters cut down trees. What did they think the foresters would do with all those trees and what did they think would be exported ?

    And AGW cult followers expect us to believe their views are based on “science” and evidence. What a joke.

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  57. Weihana (4,589 comments) says:

    Chuck Bird (2,590) Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 9:52 am
    “I don’t think Christie can be blamed for what happened after Hurricane Sandy- he was trying to behave like a responsible nonpartisan state governor”

    If he had done that at another time I would agree. During the debates Romney was making a point how he could take a nonpartisan approach. Unless Christie was a total moron he would know it would cost Romney votes and maybe the election. He is probably happy with that as he thinks it will give him a better chance in 2016. The Republicans should dump him.

    Fairfacts Media (327) Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
    Here’s an example of the phrase ‘broken glass voters’, which was a common expression used on conservative blogs.
    http://theregularguybelieves.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/broken-glass-voters.html

    As for Chris Christie, he might have thought he was been a governor for all with his support for Obama.
    But he should have realised how this would have been spun as backing Obama, making Him look presidential, ectc.
    He should have realised his actions would have weakened Romney.
    Thus, Chris Christie either was being a traitor or he showed grave misjudgement.
    Either way, he has blown it for me, unless over the next couple of years he becomes an unstaoppable election winning machine.
    Trouble is, as I said earlier, the Republican establishment have gone for centrist candidates to believing they were electable.
    And on both occasions they have failed badly.

    Romney wants to make a point about nonpartisanship and the republicans will demonstrate this by ostracizing anyone who puts romneys need for votes ahead of disaster relief. Also get over the delusion, Romney didn’t lose because of sandy or Christie. He lost because the polls were accurate which, on average, consistently showed Obama with the advantage even when national polling was in romneys favor.

    Moreover, Romney didn’t lose because he was centrist. He lost because he was not believable and the republicans are basing their entire political game on old white men. Doubling down on more “true conservatism” is not going to win them the election even if it energizes the base. There’s a reason conservative primary mitt became moderate general election mitt.

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  58. Weihana (4,589 comments) says:

    Anyone who doesn’t put romneys need for votes ahead of disaster relief rather…

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  59. Longknives (4,868 comments) says:

    I see Steve Hansen is blindly defending Adam Thomson-
    ” it looked to me like he [Thomson] got frustrated because someone was lying over the ball and he placed his foot on the guy’s head,”
    Hmmmm….This being the same Steve Hansen who two weeks ago was crying and bleating like a little girl about a big nasty Aussie rubbing his knee on Saint Richie’s head (Because we all know Saint Richie always plays by the rules and NEVER lies over the ball…..)
    The famous All Black hypocrisy strikes again!

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  60. RRM (10,018 comments) says:

    iMP –

    No, this isn’t the beginning of anything.

    You won’t see Texas, Louisiana or [Other] withdrawing from the Union.

    You read it here first!!! :-P

    Political die-hards in the United States talk a lot of smack, you have no doubt noticed…? That’s all this is.

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  61. Weihana (4,589 comments) says:

    Secession? Lmao. Yeah right.

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  62. Keeping Stock (10,431 comments) says:

    @ Kea – Penny Bright has every freedom to express her views. But she bangs on and on about the same old hare-brained things day after day. DPF is exceptionally tolerant towards her, but day after day she abuses his generosity because she knows that she will not get a similar sized audience anywhere else. By all means let her comment, but not the same repetitive stuff over and over again.

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  63. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    Hey dumbarses, there are more than 50 million voters who didn’t want Obama, and probably they would have won the election if not for vote fraud by the Obama team.

    Not everybody has the same enthusiasm for this Chicago thug as you and his other delinquent no-tax-paying dumbarsed supporters.

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  64. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock , I know.

    I loathe the bitch and find her approach arrogant and dismissive of other peoples intelligence.

    But I reckon we should put up with her. At least having her around makes everyone else look good :)

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  65. Weihana (4,589 comments) says:

    Red baiter,

    50 odd million indeed. But still less than McCain got lol.

    And voter fraud? In person voter fraud is a virtual non-event and excuse for sore losers who can’t face the diminishing influence of white men.

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  66. Weihana (4,589 comments) says:

    Embroiled in the California debate over Proposition 30’s progressive income tax proposals, some politicians have argued that raising taxes on the highest earners will drive them to states with lower tax rates, taking businesses and jobs with them.

    But a study released by the Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality concludes that “millionaire migration” is simply a myth.

    http://news.stanford.edu/news/2012/november/millionaire-migration-myth-110212.html

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  67. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    In person voter fraud is a virtual non-event and excuse for sore losers who can’t face the diminishing influence of white men.

    A “virtual non event” that swung the election for the crook Obama.

    As for “white men”, we’re a long way from done yet you racist prick, and if you think we are going to sit on our hands and watch as ignorant half educated well indoctrinated retards and Marxists from other cultures white ant everything we built, and that made the west so attractive to those very white ants in the first place, you need to think again buddy.

    Check some history.

    Its a long way from over yet.

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  68. RRM (10,018 comments) says:

    I’m just going to leave this here :-P

    Dilios: And so my king died, and my brothers died, barely a year ago. Long I pondered my king’s cryptic talk of victory. Time has proven him wise, for from free Greek to free Greek, the word was spread that bold Leonidas and his three hundred, so far from home, laid down their lives. Not just for Sparta, but for all Greece and the promise this country holds.
    [takes his spear from a soldier]
    Dilios: Now, here on this ragged patch of earth called Plataea, Xerxes’s hordes face obliteration!
    Spartan Army: HA-OOH!
    Dilios: Just there the barbarians huddle, sheer terror gripping tight their hearts with icy fingers… knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the swords and spears of three hundred. Yet they stare now across the plain at ten thousand Spartans commanding thirty thousand free Greeks! HA-OOH!
    Spartan Army: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
    Dilios: The enemy outnumber us a paltry three to one, good odds for any Greek. This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine.
    [puts on his helmet]
    Dilios: Give thanks, men, to Leonidas and the brave 300! TO VICTORY!

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  69. thedavincimode (6,873 comments) says:

    we’re a long way from done yet … and if you think we are going to sit on our hands and watch … white ant everything we built …

    We?? We?? We??

    Bit presumptious there are you old thing, or even arrogant?? My my, and to think you’ve been so critical of others …

    Wasn’t aware that you’d particpated in building western civilisation as we know it. So, what do you intend to do about it? Extend the master plan to thirty years – another ten years shouting at your keyboard and tightening your suspenders?

    you need to think again buddy

    Wow. Tough guy. How’s traffic flowing on the bridge this morning?

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  70. thedavincimode (6,873 comments) says:

    RRM

    You’re confusing Leonardis with Leadarsis. Leadarsis was the guy that they kept chained over the wagon tray for when they were feeling a bit frisky. You may not have heard of him (what goes on tour stays on tour) but they didn’t like chicks hanging around the front line. Leadarsis wasn’t highly regarded; all talk and, in his case, literally no trousers. Hence they found a more practical use for him.

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  71. Weihana (4,589 comments) says:

    Red baiter,

    As for “white men”, we’re a long way from done yet you racist prick, and if you think we are going to sit on our hands and watch as ignorant half educated well indoctrinated retards and Marxists from other cultures white ant everything we built,

    Lol and apparently I’m the racist.

    “You didn’t build that… White people did.” :)

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  72. David Garrett (7,543 comments) says:

    davinci! good thing my mouth wasn’t full of coffee when I read that!

    I wonder if Red has ever actually BEEN part of anything that was in a position to actually change things? The milk monitors’ committee perhaps?

    (Yes, Red, I was indeed very upset when my career ended suddenly, and I am a total cry baby etc.etc. blah blah blah…)

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  73. chiz (1,164 comments) says:

    Paul Henry’s Breakfast TV show canned.

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  74. thedavincimode (6,873 comments) says:

    The milk monitors’ committee perhaps?

    No, not even that I’m afraid. You see, nobody ever liked him. That’s why he turned into such a tough guy. He just had to HTFU and crack on with being a leader in his own imagination.

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  75. Manolo (14,064 comments) says:

    That’s big government Obama-style: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/6125-proposed-regulations-and-notifications-posted-last-90-days-average-68-day

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  76. Weihana (4,589 comments) says:

    Manolo,

    In recent days, for example, the EPA posted a proposed rule involving volatile organic compound emissions from architectural coatings: “We are approving a local rule that regulates these emission sources under the Clean Air Act (CAA or the Act),” the proposed rule states. “We are taking comments on this proposal and plan to follow with a final action.”

    Another proposed rule will provide guidance for FDA staff on “enforcement criteria for canned ackee, frozen ackee, and other ackee products that contain hypoglycin A.”  (Ackee is the national fruit of Jamaica; unripened or inedible portions can be toxic.)

    So “big government” means regulating potentially toxic food and clean air? Damnit I want my freedom to eat poison and breath polluted air!

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  77. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    Fuck off with your cheap unimaginative scorn you effete milquetoast pantywaist sissified losers. (thanks to Mark Steyn for that so apt description)

    Its all you ever have, and it doesn’t serve as any kind of counter argument. (not that that is ever my expectation)

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  78. DJP6-25 (1,389 comments) says:

    RRM 2:19 pm thanks. I was unaware of that quote.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  79. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    BTW, Davinci, you missed one of the extremely important qualifiers- “men”.

    Whoever I meant when I said “we” , its pretty clear you’d be excluded.

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  80. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    “You didn’t build that… White people did.”

    You said it, and on this very rare occasion, its actually quite true.

    Note the direction of all of the immigration.

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  81. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    “a study released by the Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality concludes that ”

    For fuck’s sake, the Communist Cuban government also said they had education and health standards that were world class too. And the same juice brained idiots in the west believed that as well.

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  82. david (2,563 comments) says:

    I see the Idiot at No Right Turn maintains his credible record of economic ignorance by claiming that the British Government is missing a shed load of axes because the water companies have paid out all their profits to their owners and managers. Laughable really when payments to owners are made in the form of dividends which are drawn from TAX-PAID income and payment of bonuses and salaries to managers are taxed in the hands of the recipient. Unless things have changed dramatically since I last looked at the UK Income Tax tables, personal tax rates at the upper end vastly exceeded the Company rate on a per dollar basis.
    But then I suppose if ya gotta froth at the mouth you may as well do a decent job of it and totally remove doubt in the minds of your readers what an ignoramus you are.

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  83. thedavincimode (6,873 comments) says:

    But then I suppose if ya gotta froth at the mouth you may as well do a decent job of it and totally remove doubt in the minds of your readers what an ignoramus you are.

    So true.

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  84. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    “You didn’t build that… White people did.”

    Also, Arabs, Indians and Asians. Though one member of that group is retreating backwards at the current time.

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  85. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    “Also, Arabs, Indians and Asians.”

    Oh yeah, that’s right- all cultures are equal.

    So just remind me again, where were the atomic scientists, and the Da Vincis and the Mozarts and the symphony orchestras in the above civilisations??

    And what do you think was the point of the comment I made above about the direction of immigration?

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  86. thedavincimode (6,873 comments) says:

    Da Vincis

    :oops:

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  87. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    Redbaiter, various cultures have had their day in the Sun. I just named a few of the major ones. We are not all equall at the same time.

    I agree 100% regarding the direction of immigration. If you want to know what people really think, look at what they do, not what they say. People are flocking to “nasty racist white dominated” countries in their millions. That says all we need to know.

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  88. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    “Also, Arabs, Indians and Asians.”

    Oh yeah, that’s right- all cultures are equal.

    So just remind me again, where were the atomic scientists, and the Da Vincis and the Mozarts and the symphony orchestras in the above civilisations??

    Is one to deduce that this is what Colin Craig and his Conservative Party stand for, given Red’s shilling for them?

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  89. big bruv (14,148 comments) says:

    Oh shit!, it seems that Bedwetter has just found out that Obama won the election. :)

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  90. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    It would seem that Rip Van Baiter’s meds need adjusting again. :)

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  91. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    nasska,

    Indeed. His inner most views on whites as the master race appear to be showing through

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  92. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    bhudson. Thanks for sharing your white western liberal ideas with KB’s readers and promoting it as the standard to judge all people.

    The biggest cultural group on the planet are Asians. Do you know what they think of our black brothers, really ?

    How about you check out the views of the ancient and proud people of Japan, while you are at it. They are convinced they are the master race, as are the Chinese.

    Your ideas are a recent social experiment conducted in a few newly formed societies. They are not view held globally.

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  93. thedavincimode (6,873 comments) says:

    nasska

    I think he should just swallow his pride and take his suspenders back to Madam Nippletwister for alteration. Those 10mm spikes are just OTT.

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  94. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    Most immigrants, (Est. 80%) voted for Obama, who wants to “radically transform America”.

    If they want to fucking radically transform the place why didn’t they just stay the fuck home and radically transform their own countries?

    The fact is that the US was built by “white men”, as other commenters have been so busy pointing out, and their work was so well done that people from all over the world want to share in the fruits of it.

    Yet when they get there, they show an alarming ignorance of just why America is what it is, and why it is so attractive to the rest of the world, and start about electing a like ignoramus who wants to destroy all those things that the white men built.

    And what makes it even worse is that so many of the voters who elected Obama didn’t even vote for him on the basis of policy anyway (other than that they may have wanted him to give them a phone) but on the basis of his skin colour and his race.

    Whereas the white men were happy to allow them entry without regard for these two factors.

    I’m surprised more people cannot see where this is going to so obviously end up. There is no way that patriotic Americans will allow their Constitutional Republic to be taken from them by Marxists and immigrants and uneducated ignorant of history guttersnipes.

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  95. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    Kea,

    I did not say:

    As for “white men”, we’re a long way from done yet you racist prick, and if you think we are going to sit on our hands and watch as ignorant half educated well indoctrinated retards and Marxists from other cultures white ant everything we built, and that made the west so attractive to those very white ants in the first place, you need to think again buddy.

    Nor did I say:

    “You didn’t build that… White people did.”

    You said it, and on this very rare occasion, its actually quite true.

    Note the direction of all of the immigration.

    Or:

    “Also, Arabs, Indians and Asians.”

    Oh yeah, that’s right- all cultures are equal.

    So just remind me again, where were the atomic scientists, and the Da Vincis and the Mozarts and the symphony orchestras in the above civilisations??

    Rebaiter is very clear today that “white men” are superior in his view. “White men” are not a culture.

    Respecting other, non-white races is not a western liberal idea Kea – It is basic human decency.

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  96. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    Japan has several cultural issues relating to the negative treatment of ethnic minorities and immigrants inhabiting the country by some of the Yamato Japanese that live there.

    Foreigners are at times restricted from certain services and activities, because, although according to the Constitution, all citizens are equal, but the country has no effective restrictions on xenophobic actions, although the government recently recognized the Ainu, a people group long discriminated against….

    A handful of apartments, motels, night clubs, brothels, sex parlours and public baths in Japan have put up signs stating that foreigners are not allowed, or that they must be accompanied by a Japanese person to enter….

    In 2005, a United Nations special rapporteur on racism and xenophobia expressed concerns about deep and profound racism in Japan and insufficient government recognition of the problem

    I admire and respect the strong cultural identity of the Japanese.

    I only draw upon them as an example, of how the wider world views issues of racial/cultural equality.

    So many on KB alienate the vast majority of the world, by assuming their Eurocentric views are some sort of universal one. They end up doing the opposite of what they claim to be doing. They only accept other cultures on their western terms. I can spot the pretenders very easily, as can my friends from overseas.

    You fool no one with your big displays of fake outrage over racist remarks.

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  97. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    “White men” are not a culture.”

    Nor are black people.

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  98. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    “Beijing (CNN) — A Caucasian American businessman gets into a cab in Beijing. At first he’s relieved– the last few taxis passed straight by him, which is not unusual– it can be difficult for non-Chinese nationals to get a cab. But then comes an uncomfortable question from the driver: “Isn’t it difficult living in a country with so many black people?”

    A question that highlighted another issue: while non-Chinese nationals can have trouble getting a cab, it can be even worse for those with darker skin.”…….

    “300-strong mob broke into an African students’ dormitory at Nanjing University and destroyed their possessions while chanting “down with the black devils.”

    ——————————————————————

    So whos views are YOU representing bhudson ?

    I can keep pulling quotes all night about how non-whites view issues of equality.

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  99. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    I still can’t see where you’re coming from Kea. Offhand I can’t think of one example of a multi racial culture….indeed successful multi racial nations are fairly thin on the ground.

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  100. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    I really don’t have time to deal with the strawmen arguments of incoherent semi-literate goons like Bhudson. Suffice to say that I am defending myself against racist slurs made (initially) by Weihana, and if it was anyone else but Redbaiter, and white men, Bhudson, (who so typifies the hypocrisy and blindness of the progressives), would be drooling all over the thread in effusive praise of my words.

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  101. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    Kea,

    Any number of quotes of apparent racist acts by other races does not validate a continuation of race-based white hegemony.

    Keep digging your hole. Go for your life…

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  102. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    Red,

    Save your weaseling self-justifications for Kyle Chapman

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  103. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    bhudson, why the focus on “whites” ?

    Why does Indian or Asian hegemony not inspire the same reaction?

    After all, white people are a small group compared to Asians, Africans, Indians, South Americans and so on. Globally (and I am speaking globally) whites are a minority.

    Why can you not accept that your views about race are a minority view, not shared around the world ? I will tell you why …….. because you are a narrow minded inward looking racist idiot, who can not see beyond his white liberal world. Your comments attack the views of every major cultural group on the planet, while promoting your liberal white fantasy world of equality.

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  104. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    Kea,

    Don’t stop…

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  105. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    Any number of quotes of apparent racist acts by other races does not validate a continuation of race-based white hegemony.

    The quotes were about ASIANs being racist towards non-Asians INCLUDING WHITE EUROPEANS.

    Yet your reply was to complain about white racists !

    Incredible.

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  106. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    bhudson, how about answering a few of the points raised ?

    Got nothin ???

    No surprise there.

    I am only try to figure out if your doing the old “self-hate-white-guilty” thing, or you feel inferior to whites because your not European. If its the later, relax, who wants to come from a place with bad food and angry women anyway ;)

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  107. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    No Kea. Just sitting back enjoying you trying to dig your way out of your “don’t criticize white raced based hegemony because other non-whites can be racist” hole.

    It is mildly diverting. However, the human company I am keeping is more interesting.

    I’ll keep an eye out and throw you another shovel if yours gets blunt.

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  108. Redbaiter (9,603 comments) says:

    Bhudson- that you assume I would feel the slightest need to “justify myself” to a deranged idiot like you is just one more indication of how detached from reality you actually are.

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  109. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    Red,

    Did Kyle advise you to say that?

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  110. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    You are yet to explain your position bhudson.

    The only underlying principle appears to be that only whites are racist. That is racist in its self.

    I don’t care what you think, and most of the world does not. By our standards the majority of the world are very racist. It even goes well beyond race, to religion, culture, birth (caste) and a raft of other divisions.

    Get over yourself.

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  111. thedavincimode (6,873 comments) says:

    [pout and tosses hair font] I don’t care what you think, and [so there! font] most of the world does not. By our standards the [I’m OK /some of my best friends are Asian/Arab/African font] majority of the world are very racist.

    Now I understand.

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  112. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    When you have unique, cultural, national thing like our Haka and the Samoan Challenge before
    a sporting event that is acknowledged and respected by all.

    Why is it that some of our own people, such as Big Bruv etc.
    are so dead set against it ?

    Does Big Bruv hate himself as much as Luc Hansen hates himself and his own culture ?

    Well, of course, no one could hate himself as much as Luc hates himself, but. say almost as much ?

    Question is WHY ?

    Why can’t they be proud of our own country and of our success.

    What could their problem be ?

    Do you find such a similar fifth column in any other country ?

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  113. questions (208 comments) says:

    Redbaiter Says:
    “As for “white men”, we’re a long way from done yet you racist prick, and if you think we are going to sit on our hands and watch as ignorant half educated well indoctrinated retards and Marxists from other cultures white ant everything we built

    You are a real estate agent Russel, you built nothing, you are a leach, you are scum, you are a parasite. You built nothing, you only take from society.

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  114. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Why would you scoff and scorn at the passion that say a Weepu or Williams for eg
    put into the Haka ?

    If you don’t like it, why can’t you just shut T F Up

    everyone else likes it. World wide.

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  115. DavidR (102 comments) says:

    There you are bereal! (thought you might’ve been sulking.)

    Enjoy the election, did you?

    How’s your great faith in the American people?

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  116. mikenmild (11,719 comments) says:

    I’d like to see bereal, big bruv and redbaiter face off in the three minutes’ hate at a local racetrack.

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  117. eszett (2,430 comments) says:

    Lance (1,473) Says:
    November 12th, 2012 at 9:30 am

    New Battlestar Galactica series promo
    Looks like they didn’t frack it up, really hot

    http://gizmodo.com/5959178/new-battlestar-galactica-series-start-today++and-it-looks-awesome

    Parts 1 and 2

    Best post today, by far.
    Thanks heaps, Lance.

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  118. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    i have the utmost respect and faith in the decision made by the American People.
    i accept it.

    Also, WTF is mikenmild on about ?
    Can anyone interpret ?

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  119. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    A wife comes home late at night and quietly opens the door to her bedroom. From under the blanket she sees four legs instead of two. She reaches for a baseball bat and starts hitting the blanket as hard as she can. Once she’s done, she goes to the kitchen to have a drink. As she enters, she sees her Husband there, reading a magazine. “Hi Darling” he says “Your parents have come to visit us, so l let them stay in our bedroom. Did you say hello?”

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  120. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    Assets worth tens of millions in revenues had been passed to third parties “for a comparative trivial return for the people of NSW”.

    “We will examine how it came to pass that massive benefits were lost to … the people of NSW while the profits were ultimately acquired by a small group of well-connected businessmen on the back of comparatively paltry investments,” Mr Watson said.
    FORMER NSW resources minister Ian Macdonald conferred “massive cascading profits” of $100 million on his then Labor colleague Eddie Obeid and his family, a corruption inquiry has been told.

    “This public inquiry will be investigating whether corruption was involved. If it is corruption then it is corruption on a scale probably unexceeded since the days of the Rum Corps.”

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/obeid-made-100m-from-ian-macdonal-coal-licence-favouritism-icac-told/story-e6frgczx-1226515006029

    Labour “Businessmen.”

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  121. Griff (8,194 comments) says:

    Had to kick a pit bull cross today.
    Attacked my dog as I walked down the road.
    Got quite a swing into its ribs my boy had its neck on the other side.
    ouch steel caps
    Who was the idiot who let the bloody things in.
    Every feral seems to have one of the mongrels. Don’t the know the stupid things are dominant and touchy.
    OK for the owners it will be a kid, a passerby, someones pet, or a visitor. :sad:

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  122. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/labor-moves-to-suspend-obeid-over-shocking-allegations-20121112-29830.html

    The former Labor powerbroker, Eddie Obeid, is set to be suspended from the party tonight following allegations aired during a corruption hearing that have been described as “shocking” by the NSW opposition leader, John Robertson.

    Mr Robertson moved to have Mr Obeid’s membership suspended this afternoon. The request was expected to be acted upon at an extraordinary meeting of Labor party officers on Tuesday, but it has been fast-tracked to tonight.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/labor-moves-to-suspend-obeid-over-shocking-allegations-20121112-29830.html#ixzz2BzdqAD38

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  123. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    “Attacked my dog as I walked down the road.”

    If you were handsome enough to attract a better looking partner Griff.
    Pitbull’s wouldn’t attack her bach! :)

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  124. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    mikenmild (5,449) Says:

    November 12th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
    I’d like to see bereal, big bruv and redbaiter face off in the three minutes’ hate at a local racetrack.

    Never happen, one would too pissed to get there, one lives in Wellington and the last ones insane and would never find his way out of Tauranga,

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  125. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    I would happily be their guide PEB! :)

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  126. Griff (8,194 comments) says:

    Johnboy
    I don’t mess with my partner she eats pit pulls for a light snack.Her main diet is fucked up kids and uncooperative social workers
    If we ever meet I will introduce you to her. I have saved that comment just in case :grin:

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  127. big bruv (14,148 comments) says:

    mikenmild

    Chucking me in with a couple of haters like Redbaiter and bereal is a bit rough.

    I am a peace loving person who is tolerant of anybody and anything apart from religion.

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  128. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    I love feisty women Griff. Even if they are ugly enough to be attracted to a bloke like you! :)

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  129. mikenmild (11,719 comments) says:

    That’s two scratchings so far. Looks like redbaiter playing with himself, again…

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  130. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Fuck I might as well go to bed. There’s no lying lawyers to pretend they have ripped me tonight!!! :) :)

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  131. Manolo (14,064 comments) says:

    This absolute nutter used to ring Banks on Radio Pacific: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8563262/man-arrested-ahead-of-royal-walkabout

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  132. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    mikenmild,

    wrong again darling and,
    only one wanker left playing with herself at the end, and as always ,
    it’s you.

    G’nite, and,
    Good luck to your family.

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