General Debate 1 November 2012

November 1st, 2012 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8557387/beneficiarys-88000-rip-off-revealed

    slapper..

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  2. Fairfacts Media (372 comments) says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFH-FcAR9U&feature=player_embedded

    When Obama calls the Navy Seals, they get Bin laden.
    When the Navy Seals calls Obama, they get denied.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHNBr3PZQaE&feature=player_embedded
    Trick or Treating Obama style.

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  3. iMP (2,385 comments) says:

    Hot off the press this morning, Air NZ’s best ever new inflight video ala MiddleEarth with Gollum and Sir Peter Jack. Great stuff.

    http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/airline-to-middleearth-kewl-new-inflight-vid/

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  4. Lance (2,655 comments) says:

    @iMP
    Wonderful

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  5. wreck1080 (3,917 comments) says:

    Executive pay is out of control as evidenced by the meridian CEO performance.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10844284

    Meridian net profit fell 303 million to 74 million. You’d imagine, no bonuses due there.

    Instead….Tim Lusk was paid $1.37 million, including more than $800,000 in bonuses, during his last six months with the state-owned power company.

    But, I must now add… given the shocking state of journalism in this country it is entirely this story has been spun to look in a bad way. I just do not trust the journalists, but, if the ‘interpretation’ on the facts is correct, then it is not a good look.

    At least, one fact you can trust is that the stock prices of british companies have gone pretty much nowhere since the mid-90’s. Yet, executive pay has soared, despite the fact their company stock prices have not improved . Something is askew.

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  6. Griff (7,715 comments) says:

    This Bloomberg dude is a twat

    “On Tuesday, as officials discovered the breadth of tunnel flooding from an enormous hurricane, New Yorkers were warned that the bulk of the muscular subway network could be lost for “a good four or five days,” Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said.”

    They will be waiting a lot longer than a week for full service. Electricity and salt water does not work.Four days is the estimate to pump out the water.
    Total rewire and replace all electronics in the drowned areas is going to take a lot longer than that.

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  7. KH (695 comments) says:

    If Tame Iti does not like our country so much. He should leave.
    Given his recent preferred activities for which he has been convicted.
    He would quite like Somalia I think.

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  8. Reid (16,457 comments) says:

    See this insanity here continues the PC psychobabble approach started by fools who are hell-bent on de-institutionalising mental health, but the fools don’t get that sometimes it can be appropriate. And this madness is happening under a so-called conservative govt.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/7890692/Pupils-to-be-mainstreamed-minister-says

    A principal of one of the schools responds:
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2537204/special-schools-to-close.asx

    And here the idiot Parata responds, without even addressing the main issue being raised, which has always been the issue raised, by all the parents of these children all the time over the years which this stupid policy has been rolling out, which is that these students are vulnerable and mainstreaming is a stupid idea. But no, the ideological fanatics at the Ministry of Ed seem to hallucinate that modern mental health institutions are rather like Bedlam was in Dickens’ time and all of these horrid things must be closed in the name of humanity. Despite the fact all of the parents who know and love their children more than anyone, ALL say it’s a dumb idea, ALL the time. And no-one listens, ever.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2537205/special-schools-to-close.asx

    If you’ve ever met any of these children you know what they’re saying is true. One parent told me he took his 15 year old daughter to the pool for a swimming lesson and one of the boys a similar age was just openly masturbating in the pool. This sort of thing apparently happens all the time when they reach puberty. They don’t know any different. This is why the parents and the schools are saying, don’t put these boys and girls together into a coed situation. But no, the “experts” know what’s best.

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  9. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Why is this prick not being dragged from the house, with his eyes streaming from pepper spray and a German Sheppard tearing off his calf muscle ?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-living/7890448/Million-dollar-home-occupier-refuses-to-leave

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  10. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    I received this yesterday from a colleague.

    “Political Correctness” – A long awaited definition …

    There’s an annual contest amongst Australia’s University community calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term. This year’s contest term was “political correctness”.

    The winning student wrote:

    “Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional illogical minority, that is enthusiastically promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end.”

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  11. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    “there was a Maori sovereignty flag in an upstairs window”

    thats why he is still there..its Nil Ziland silly , we embrace all silly things. Common sense went out the window under klarkula.

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  12. Manolo (13,774 comments) says:

    But, but, but the Police will refuse to touch the flag. It’s taonga. Pfftt.
    The guy is a bloody crook and should be evicted.

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  13. Scott Chris (6,137 comments) says:

    Obama gets the Christie bump:

    President Barack Obama has won praise from an unlikely quarter – the Republican Governor of New Jersey, Chris Christie – for his astute handling of Hurricane Sandy.

    Perhaps Christie is an impatient man. Four years is better than eight.

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  14. Manolo (13,774 comments) says:

    Marie Antoinette asks for money: http://michellemalkin.com/2012/10/31/michelle-obama-dig-a-little-deeper-for-our-campaign/

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  15. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    liarbors a joke , I missed the flag.

    To demonsrate what a non-racist country we are, how about a white guy try that and stick a Confederate Flag in the window…

    I wonder if nothing will be done then, even though the factual circumstances are identical ?

    Yeah right !

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  16. Griff (7,715 comments) says:

    Kea
    That should read England’s flag
    If you fly the flag with Saint Georges cross you are a skinhead, boot boy, white trash, racist. :sad:

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  17. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    Post of the day Reid at 8.57. Brilliant.

    Mainstreaming is an enormously expensive scam – always was, and always will be. Promoted by ideologues it is supported by the political elite because it ceates a large number of unskilled jobs instead of having efficient targetted help for these people in dedicated institutions with skilled professionals.

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  18. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Kea
    That should read England’s flag
    If you fly the flag with Saint Georges cross you are a skinhead, boot boy, white trash, racist.

    Yes I was going to say the Saint George Cross, but I thought the Confederate flag made the point more strongly.

    This really is apalling stuff. Even basic property rights are ignored. (And NO it is not a “civil matter” as some police appologist will no doubt claim). It is racist policing pure and simple and the cops should be disgusted in themselves, just as any right minded person is disgusted in them, over this.

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  19. Longknives (4,746 comments) says:

    Surely the guy should be arrested for Trespass and Intentional Damage?

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  20. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    Damn some of you visitors are amusing, you want Tame to leave the country he was born in.

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  21. Rufus (667 comments) says:

    Reid – thanks for bringing that up. I feel sorry for the parents that get messed about time and time again.

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  22. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    GOH:

    Damn some of you visitors are amusing, you want Tame to leave the country he was born in.

    Pot. Kettle. Black.

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  23. KH (695 comments) says:

    GOH @10.22
    Amused actually. The day Tame goes to Somalia.
    I think it’s good thing. He would be happy there.
    And he doesn’t seem to like our country. So why not.

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  24. Griff (7,715 comments) says:

    grumpyoldhori
    Damn some of you Maori are stupid you call us visitors in the country we were born in.

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  25. Manolo (13,774 comments) says:

    The buggers are so precious:
    An infant nutrition group is outraged over a new sponsorship deal between NRL club the Warriors and infant formula manufacturer Fernbaby, saying it could undermine breastfeeding.

    http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8557468/warriors-infant-formula-deal-slammed

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  26. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    I think he meant vistors to the website, not visitors to the country.

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  27. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    Is the paper going to keep the name ‘TRUTH’ with Cameron Slater as Editor?

    My personal experience of Cameron Slater is that he purports to support ‘freedom of expression’ – but not on his own ‘Whaleoil’ blog.

    Cameron Slater has banned me from his blog – although I am never personally abusive, am able to sustantiate my considered opinion with FACTS and EVIDENCE and always put my name to my posts in an ‘open, transparent and accountable’ way.

    I guess Cameron Slater doesn’t like to hear the TRUTH’ when it conflicts with his ‘opinion’?

    (I just tried to post this considered opinion – to see if I am still ‘banned’ on his blog – this seems to be the case).

    In my view – the reason why Cameron Slater has been made Editor of the ‘TRUTH’ is to push a rabid anti-Union line.

    It will be interesting to see how long he lasts in that position………………….

    Penny Bright

    ‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

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  28. Reid (16,457 comments) says:

    Cheers Rufus and Kevin. For those who wish to, see my 8:57 for context.

    This is a scandal waiting to happen and I just wish 60 Minutes or one of the doco programs would look at it.

    If you measure the compassion of a society on how it treats its most vulnerable, you can’t get much more vulnerable than these kids.

    The scandal is that for twenty years, at least dating back to Lockwood Smith when he was Education Minister if not before, the advice from parents and teachers of these kids has been completely ignored and the policy of closing these schools has been forced upon them.

    This has been done for ideological reasons of de-institutionalising mental health care, rather than really, as it purports to be, a policy that’s in the best interests of the kids. Well if it was really in their best interests, why precisely are the people who know them better than anyone, continually sidelined in the decision making? For twenty years?

    It’s an utter disgrace that apparently, no Education Minister in the last twenty years has been capable of seeing straight through this ideological bullshit from their officials in the Ministry of Ed which BTW, has profoundly damaged thousands of real lives and is continuing apace.

    It’s a prime example of where the PC industry decides something has to be done and rides roughshod over the people affected by it. And of course it’s all sold to the useful idiots in the name of compassion and humanity. It’s the complete opposite of that.

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  29. Ross12 (1,428 comments) says:

    One for Dr Russell Norman to read

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9646847/Bank-of-Englands-Charlie-Bean-signals-no-more-QE.html

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  30. Kevin (1,122 comments) says:

    So today we have two examples of the ideologues in the Ministry of Education writing government policy and the Nats swallowing it lock stock and frecken barrel.

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  31. Grendel (1,002 comments) says:

    here we go again.

    Penny, you do have freedom of expression, you just dont have freedom of platform. no one is to be forced to provide you with a platform for your views.

    Whaleoil is a private blog, its his house. just as he does not need to let you into his house to put forth your views, neither does he have to let you onto his blog.

    and btw, who cares if he is going to push an anti union line in paper, is that not his freedom of expression being used? the owners of the paper have given him their platform, and presumably they can take it away as well.

    you cannot rant about wanting freedom of expression for yourself but then criticise someone else using theirs.

    also, just becuase you put the word ‘considered’ in front of opinion, does not make your opinion anything important. neither in fact does putting the words facts and evidence in block capitals mean you have any.

    i took a considered shit this morning, but at the end of the day its still just a shit. thats pretty much the analogy that describes most peoples views of your opinions, considered or not.

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  32. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    @Grendel:

    Well said. Penny Not-So has a totally misguided line of thought that she is somehow entitled to voice her myopic, irrational, delusional and mostly irrelevant views and opinions via blogs owned by others.

    And then she bleats and whines because the blog owner has given her the heave.

    She has as much credibility as a three dollar bill.

    But at least the three dollar bill has novelty value. :D

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  33. KH (695 comments) says:

    Reid @ 11.45
    You misrepresent the situation. You don’t see the bigger picture.
    There are indeed thousands of kids with difficulties of all sorts dealt very effectively in their own situations. Some of the setups I see for them make me realise this is indeed a wonderful country.
    But you got to grow develop and change. And services open up and services close. And not all are perfect, if it was easy to do well, it would not need to be provided.
    Don’t let the teachers union rule what happens with our kids.

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  34. graham (2,335 comments) says:

    Penny – I seem to recall someone on this blog asking you not that long ago why you had not published their comments on one of your websites. Your reply, as I recall, was along the lines of “my blog, I get to say what goes on it”.

    So – using your own logic – apparently, you don’t support ‘freedom of expression’ either. And you don’t like to hear the ‘TRUTH’ when it conflicts with your ‘opinion’.

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  35. Fletch (6,389 comments) says:

    The election cheating begins?
    Onscreen voting machines “not calibrated properly” in some places, so that when you touch the name of Romney, the touch part of the screen is more likely to register Obama.

    Last week, TheBlaze brought you a story from a North Carolina voting precinct using electronic voting machines that was already experiencing issues where votes for GOP candidate Mitt Romney were being changed to Democratic candidate Barack Obama. Now, it’s allegedly happening again, this time in both Kansas and Ohio — and we talked to a vendor supporting the machines about the issue.

    Nancy from Topeka, Kan., who asked that her last name not be used for reasons pertaining to her husband’s work, told TheBlaze she fears if voters aren’t double checking their selections, they’ll be “robbed of their vote.”

    Nancy explained that while her husband was casting a vote for Romney, the touchscreen highlighted Obama.

    “He played around with the field a little and realized that in order to vote for Romney, his finger had to be exactly on the mark,” Nancy wrote in an email. She said “the invisible Obama field came down about 1/4 [of an inch]” into what should technically have been the Romney area. In a phone interview with TheBlaze, she explained further that her husband said he felt the area on the touchscreen that could be pushed to vote for Obama was larger than that for Romney.

    Nancy and her husband called the Kansas Secretary of State to report the problem and were informed that it was most likely a calibration issue.

    “My concern is, is this intentional?” Nancy said. Posing this question to the Secretary of State’s office, Nancy told us they said it is unlikely that voter fraud would be occurring in Kansas, as it’s not a highly contested state.

    The Marion Star also reported Wednesday that Ohio resident Joan Stevens experienced a similar case. She alerted a board of elections member at the voting location about the problem, who then called in the vendor providing support for the machines to check for calibration issues.

    Sophia Rogers, director of the Marion County Board of Elections, told TheBlaze the Marion Star “got it wrong.” She said when techs came out to review the machine, they found everything was calibrated correctly.

    The Marion Star reported Rogers saying the machine seemed to have been working fine for she and other voters as well. Still, the local newspaper did note Stevens saying that board of elections member Jackie Smith mentioned to her that the machine had been experiencing issues all day. Smith did not issue a comment to the Marion Star.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/more-electronic-voting-machines-changing-romney-votes-to-obama-we-looked-into-it-and-heres-what-a-vendor-told-us/

    Any way to get extra votes, I guess.

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  36. Reid (16,457 comments) says:

    You misrepresent the situation.

    I’m not. Exactly what I said at 8:57 and 11:46, happens.

    You don’t see the bigger picture.

    There isn’t any big picture KH. I am NOT talking about kids who can cope, but the ones who are so profoundly disabled they have mental ages of children much younger than their physical bodies and who will never be any different. That’s who I’m talking about and that’s only who I’ve talked about.

    Don’t let the teachers union rule what happens with our kids..

    I’m not talking about the teachers union. What I said was, the Ministry of Ed has for over twenty years ignored the PARENTS and the teachers, the very people who know and love these kids and the very people most qualified to know whether or not the proposed change is going to fly. And what I’ve said is, it’s a FACT that for over twenty years, NONE of these people have been listened to and the policy bureaucrats have got their way EVERY SINGLE TIME and that this is NOT acceptable.

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  37. Lance (2,655 comments) says:

    FFS Fletch

    Yes we all get it

    Obama is the Devil
    He is not even a US citizen
    He was breed strictly for the purpose of bringing the downfall of the USA
    His evil minions are hell bent on cheating their way to continued power.
    This is all part of a vast Islamic plan to enslave Americans
    The first stage is shutting down the military, next comes equality for all and single handedly making the US broke.

    Did I miss anything that hasn’t been ranted over, and over and over and over and over a bloody thousand times?

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  38. Manolo (13,774 comments) says:

    He is not even a US citizen

    Further clarification: the Messiah is Kenyan.

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  39. David Garrett (7,278 comments) says:

    Graham: Yes, I saw that “answer” from Penny too!

    Talking of answers Penny, I am still waiting for one to this question, first asked of you over two months ago: “Do you derive any income from a government benefit?”

    (And with regard to myself, the answer is still “NO”)

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  40. Rufus (667 comments) says:

    Lance – you don’t get it at all.

    Fletch is not ranting – he’s highlighting possible fraud in a very closely contested election – the results of which will have ramifications world-wide.

    But carry on as you please.

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  41. Manolo (13,774 comments) says:

    Dr (in occult sciences) Norman to advise his Luddite counterpart: http://rt.com/usa/news/jill-stein-arrested-texas-694/

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  42. hmmokrightitis (1,590 comments) says:

    So, come on Penny, this is really simple – or it seems to be for a number of us.

    You rail against people who you claim block your freedom of expression on their blogs, but block others doing the same on yours.

    You scream about transperency, but refuse to answer direct questions that go to the heart of your integrity for what you hold yourself out to be.

    This is your chance. I dare, nay DOUBLE DARE you to ask DPF for a chance to post, on condition that you answer all questions raised. Or be banned forever.

    So, come on oh caped crusader, what say thee?

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  43. Lance (2,655 comments) says:

    @Rufus
    And this ‘fraud’ is all part of a master plan?

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  44. Rufus (667 comments) says:

    Who knows Lance.

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  45. Reid (16,457 comments) says:

    Further clarification: the Messiah is Kenyan.

    No he’s not, he’s Indonesian. Anyway, Dreams from my Real Father is available here free to subscribers if you’re interested. I haven’t watched it myself so I don’t know what his conclusion is but if he is Kenyan based on that movie, I’ll admit I’m wrong. I’m sure he’s done more research than I have on it.

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  46. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Veteran weather modification expert Ben Livingston is a former Navy Physicist who briefed President Lyndon B. Johnson on the effectiveness of weather control back in the 1960’s during the Vietnam era, when he was involved in cloud seeding programs that worked to slow down the advance of Vietnamese and Korean troops. Livingston asserts that asserts that hurricane control was a national priority of the government more than 40 years ago and that the technology was fully operational to control the weather at the time.

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  47. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    Not only has the demented madwoman with the dead possum on her head personally never met Mr Facts and Mrs Evidence, I expect it will be a very sobering if not shattering experience for her should she ever make their acquaintance.

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  48. redeye (629 comments) says:

    Fletch (3,421) @ 12:31 pm. Perhaps electronic hanging chads?

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  49. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Gordon Duff: US military planned mutiny to topple Obama

    Gaouette was sent back because the Secretary of Defense found him unfit for command, sent him across the world in the middle of one of the largest combat exercises in history, one both timed prior to an election and one at a critical location, near the Straits of Hormuz in the Persian
    Gulf.

    Gaouette commanded nearly one third of the Naval and air combat forces in the region.

    The decision was made based on a conversation with the Secretary of Defense who, at the end of the talk, believed Gaouette was part of a group of military officers who have been under suspicion for planning a “Seven Days in May” type overthrow of the US government if President Obama is re-elected.

    This is not conjecture, dozens of key officers face firing, hundreds are under investigation, all with direct ties to extremist elements in the Republican Party and the Israeli lobby.

    http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/10/29/269376/us-military-planned-mutiny-on-the-bounty/

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  50. Reid (16,457 comments) says:

    hinamanu thanks for that, what are your thoughts on it?

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  51. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    I think the US military is totally concerned with a war with Iran they don’t want.

    An Iranian told me Iran is simply too big to fight a normal war. To win, Israel and the US would have to go nuclear.

    Interestingly, I also found out the US navy has sent old nuclear ships on the brink of being decommissioned to be sunk by Iranian forces and the contamination becomes an Iranian problem. This is a repeat of history from Pearl Harbour. The Pacific Command took new ships away from Pearl and left the old ones to be sunk. The British had already located the Japanese fleet and warned Washington.

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  52. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    Reid

    I’m expecting Tom Cruise will play Gaouette. That would make an interesting double with Valkyrie.

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  53. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    Cameron Slater has banned me from his blog

    Cameron deserves a medal, really.

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  54. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Max Keiser Report
    ‎’Beleaguered savers will see £43billion wiped off the value of their nest eggs by November 2012 thanks to record low interest rates and soaring inflation, calculations for This is Money show.

    The Bank of England meets on Thursday to decide whether to raise base rate from its record low 0.5 per cent and, in turn, give a kick to savings rates.

    The average new instant access account pays just 0.93%, according to financial information provider Moneyfacts.co.uk – well below the rate of inflation at 5.6 per cent on the retail prices index (RPI) and 5.2 per cent on the slower-rising consumer prices index (CPI). Many older accounts pay as little as 0.1 per cent.’

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  55. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Can This Man Save The Bees?

    Dr. Wil Spencer is a Naturopath, VMSP, Researcher for Nature and Author.

    He has successfully completed several studies working with commercial honey bees, restoring them from near collapse to full recovery, accomplishing pollination to honey crop in the same season that treatment began.
    Dr. Wil Spencer believes that pollutants malnutrition and
    genetically modified crops are making the bees sick as they flit from flower to flower pollinating the world. He also believesthat a well-nourished bee with a strong immune system will resist natural threats such as parasites, bacteria, viruses, fungus,and CCD.

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  56. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Cameron Slater has banned me from his blog – although I am never personally abusive, am able to sustantiate my considered opinion with FACTS and EVIDENCE and always put my name to my posts in an ‘open, transparent and accountable’ way.

    Well Penny, you are the only person I think should be banned from KB. You refuse to debate, or answer, relevant quetions. You simply use KB as a notice board for your brand of crazy.

    Why are you even here?

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  57. Manolo (13,774 comments) says:

    Were Ure or Miss Dim on board?
    http://travel.msn.co.nz/travelnews/8557561/qantas-flight-forced-to-land-after-bad-smell

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  58. Rufus (667 comments) says:

    Kea the Banner.

    What if Ms. Not-so honestly believes she does debate and answer relevant questions? She just feels misunderstood.

    Why should you not be banned Kea?

    A lot of folks clog up KB with their own brand of crazy. Part of having an open forum. Some of it is fun, some odd, some annoying. If it gets nasty, David steps in. Seems to work well so far.

    If you can’t handle someone, you could utilise RIP more.

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  59. Griff (7,715 comments) says:

    Some of it is fun, some odd, some annoying.
    Every one on here is a weirdo The scary ones just dont realise it. :lol:

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  60. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Damn, I really want to engage but my tinfoil hat is off being polished.

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  61. SPC (5,619 comments) says:

    Bill English should be here explaining his views on housing.

    He says we cannot do anything that sends property values down, because this would result in negative equity. This problem is caused by banks lending up to 100% value on mortgages.

    So does he propose any measure to require home buyers have deposits sufficient to prevent negative equity risk
    – well no. So banks can be confident continuing with past practice – that lead to the last housing bubble.

    So the expectation that house prices can only go up is now officially endorsed by our Minister of Finance. What one wonders is the link between this and his oppositon to a CGT?

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  62. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    Every one on here is a weirdo

    Heh, too true. But that doesn’t mean I’m not scary just because I realise it.

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  63. Nookin (3,343 comments) says:

    “What if Ms. Not-so honestly believes she does debate and answer relevant questions? She just feels misunderstood”

    I think Rufus that Penny lost a degree of support when she started publicising that Pike River was the result of a conspiracy between the PM and a consortium of international banks to make mining easier and cheaper. The theory was that a disaster might nudge aside the opposition to open cast mining. From memory she or the material she was publicising implicated the PM in a murder conspiracy. She refused to enter any discussions.

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  64. KH (695 comments) says:

    Reid at 12.42. – could be Penny.
    It seems to be that Penny is also posting under the name “Reid”. Same sort of approach to information and argument.

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  65. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    Indeed Nookin. The sad decline continued and culminated in her being biffed out of the occupy protest (gosh, did I really say “protest”?). If she has been ejected from the 99%, then presumably she has been catapulted into the 1%.

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  66. David Garrett (7,278 comments) says:

    Nookin: Are you serious? She said that? Seriously delusional…as well as the fact that open cast mining is uneconomic at Pike River as I understand it….

    Note to self: Don’t bother being polite to Penny any more…

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  67. Nookin (3,343 comments) says:

    DG
    I could find the GD posts if I had the time or energy (or both). Here is a sample

    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/whistleblower-claims-it-was-murder-at-pike-river-mine-is-that-why-the-company-doesnt-want-to-fully-participate-in-the-inquiry/

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  68. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    David Garrett,

    Ms Bright posted a link to a diatribe that suggested the fire at the top of the ventilationshaft was all a ruse to camoflage what had really happened and for the purposes summarised by Nookin.

    Even by Ms Brights standards it was weird.

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  69. David Garrett (7,278 comments) says:

    Alex: Words fail me….and as everyone knows, that is rare…

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  70. Nookin (3,343 comments) says:

    DG

    Here is a sample post by her ladyship on 17 April 2011

    ““# Puzzled in Ekatahuna (104) Says:
    April 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    By Joel

    Robbie – Before giving Key and the rest of his greedy cronies too much credit, I suggest you make an effort to find and read “Murder at Pike River”. In my opinion, there is a HIGH level conspiracy here involving foreign bankers, foreign energy companies, NZ govt, NZ Police and Pike River hierarchy. My father is one of the 29 dead. I was present in all the meetings with officials, and to be honest, have smelt a rat the entire time. So many things don’t add up, but say you only paid attention to the mainstream media, well, they have painted it in quite a different light. The so called journalists, did very little investigative work. The reason for this being, is at a high level, the same foreign bankers that own the mines, the same foreign bankers that lend our pathetic govt billions of dollars, are the same foreign bankers that own the majority of the global and local media, therefore control the flow of info. The whole thing reeks of a cover-up.

    http://www.3news.co.nz/Is-Phil-Goff-right-about-John-Key-and-Pike-River/tabid/1153/articleID/194675/Default.aspx”
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Seems that at least one of the ‘next-of-kin’ of a miner killed at Pike River Mine, shares my view that others should ‘make an effort to find and read “Murder at Pike River”?

    That he, the son of one of the dead miners, is also concerned about a ‘cover-up’.

    “In my opinion, there is a HIGH level conspiracy here involving foreign bankers, foreign energy companies, NZ govt, NZ Police and Pike River hierarchy. My father is one of the 29 dead. I was present in all the meetings with officials, and to be honest, have smelt a rat the entire time.”

    WHY?

    ‘The so called journalists, did very little investigative work. The reason for this being, is at a high level, the same foreign bankers that own the mines, the same foreign bankers that lend our pathetic govt billions of dollars, are the same foreign bankers that own the majority of the global and local media, therefore control the flow of info. The whole thing reeks of a cover-up.’

    What do you say to THAT?

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

    You may have noticed that she did not appear before the commission to express her view. This may well reflect upon the honesty with which she holds such views.

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  71. Manolo (13,774 comments) says:

    Every one on here is a weirdo
    Heh, too true. But that doesn’t mean I’m not scary just because I realise it.

    Good to hear it in your own words, davinci.
    I knew all along you were one of the worst troublesome characters among us. :D

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  72. David Garrett (7,278 comments) says:

    Nookin: She might also have been concerned “they” would take her away…community care eh…dont you love it?

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  73. Manolo (13,774 comments) says:

    Stonewalling to get to Election Day: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/31/republicans-senators-press-obama-admin-again-for-answers-on-benghazi/

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  74. Nookin (3,343 comments) says:

    “dont you love it?”

    Not really. I rather suspect that her potential to hurt people outweighs any semblance of good that she may do [and there must be serious doubts that there is any potential] as a self-appointed “watchdog”.

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  75. David Garrett (7,278 comments) says:

    Nookin: I was being ironic old man…I thought she was just another harmless nutter…now I see she is a very nasty one…

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  76. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Josephine Lawrence, the kind of mother you wouldn’t wish on your worst enemy.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7893679/Murder-accused-would-get-boy-stoned-court-hears

    Is there anybody out there who thinks this xxxx should not be charged with child neglect, or worse ?

    “I asked him to stop, but he wouldn’t listen.” FFS

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  77. graham (2,335 comments) says:

    Nookin, I tend to agree that Penny actually does more harm than good – in many ways. One example:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/09/general_debate_28_september_2012.html#comment-1027535

    In her blind hatred of John Key, Penny was quite happy to picket a charity lunch that was aiming to raise money for a new children’s ward at Waitakere hospital, solely to make a point about John Key.

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  78. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    What a boring day on KB.

    A tourist at a top African game lodge over looking a water
    > hole, who spotted a visibly aroused elephant, complained that
    > the sight of this rampant beast ruined his honeymoon by making
    > him feel “inadequate”.

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  79. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    The delightfull Josephine stated in court today,

    “I knew there was something wrong with him, (little J J )
    but I didn’t call an ambulance ’cause I didn’t want to look bad. Like a bad Mum.”

    Why has this slag not been charged ?

    As i pointed out last night, one way to fight this child abuse and murder of Maori
    children is to hold the mother responsible.

    That got a couple of howls of outrage from the usual suspects but.
    No one argued that would not help these poor children if their slag mothers knew for sure
    that they would be charged for knowing their children were being abused and doing nothing.

    In addition to the blow that killed him this poor child had over 30 previous injuries on his body, including 2 broken arms. He was 2

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  80. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    I’ve just noticed that Phil U, Johnboy and George Lucas all bear a striking resemblance to each other.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lucas

    In fact the only way you could tell us apart is by our respective bank balances! :)

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  81. Griff (7,715 comments) says:

    So you all look like sheep Johnboy :grin:
    This is how I have always pictured you http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2041/1509271248_346302e8be.jpg

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  82. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    I used to look like that till my orthodontist sorted my underbite and I got laser treatment for my brow and nasal wool Griff.

    Now I look like a rich successful movie guy/bludger/wanker! :)

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  83. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    “My fiancé and I booked a twin-bedded room but we were
    placed in a double-bedded room. We now hold you responsible for
    the fact that I find myself pregnant. This would not have
    happened if you had put us in the room that we booked.”

    Venus is the only planet that rotates clockwise.

    (Since Venus is normally associated with women, what does this tell you?)
    (That women are going the ‘right’ direction…?)

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  84. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    What fun, Just had a scruffy dude knock on the door. Hullo, “good evening sir how’s your day , enjoying the sun? What can I do for you?

    As you can see I’m from Greenpeace.
    Answer. Yep and you can take your commnuist idea’s and fuck off.

    Feels good.

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  85. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    “Just had a scruffy dude knock on the door.”

    Get a bull mastiff V2! :)

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  86. David Garrett (7,278 comments) says:

    bereal: This is going to continue until we give children the same protection we give dogs…abuse a dog and you are not allowed to have one for however long a judge says…abuse or kill a kid, and whatever else the court might order, preventing you having or spawning more won’t be among them…

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  87. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    Specially if you are brown! :)

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  88. RF (1,398 comments) says:

    @ iMP .. 8.20am… Watching the Air NZ inflight video brought tears of pride to my eyes. Best ever !!!!!!!!

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  89. David Garrett (7,278 comments) says:

    Johnboy: Seriously, after becoming a father myself later in life, I just can’t bear to read these dreadful stories…but damn me, I have been following the latest one…these animals are simply killing the spawn of the last incumbent…as simple as that. Until we face the reality that it IS as simple as that and do something which prevents it happening, it’s just going to keep on happening….but I had better stop now before someone reports me to the Law Society for “statements inconsistent with a member of the profession”…Fill ya boots Mickey….

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  90. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    http://johnansell.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/british-reply-to-1831-maori-petition-for-protection/

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  91. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    David Garrett. @ 7.02 and &.19
    Here is an answer.

    You are correct to a point. And what you say @ 7.02 may be part of the answer.
    But that is not the way to go to solve this today.

    You can’t stop these slags spawning. (in fact they are currently encouraged to spawn by increasing
    their bene)

    What you can do though is let them know. Drummit into the slags that, if their boyfriend abuses or
    kills their sprog then they, (the mother,) will be held accountable. Big time.

    Make some examples out of them.
    Make their fuckin eyes water with the sentences they cop. Get the word out that this shit is over.

    Make them more scared of the law than they are of their boyfriend. most important. How? (see Sun Tsu that i posted
    last night.)

    Force the slags to protect their children. No one else can. (Normal mothers will do that intictivly but these slags are different)
    One can invent all the great Chfs systems to “identify” these slags.
    and ‘Work with them.” That is fuckin bullshit.

    Frighten the living bejesus out of them. That will work.

    Force the likes of this slag Josephine Lawrence to be so shit scared of what will happen to her if
    she doesn’t call the police or an ambulance or chfs or some agency that she does call. Then they can help.

    Think that may be an answer ?

    i haven’t heard any other.

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  92. Reid (16,457 comments) says:

    …these animals are simply killing the spawn of the last incumbent…as simple as that.

    No they’re not animals David. When they were born they were as pure as you and I when we were both born. Over time the world pollutes all of us. Some of us don’t get the same chances as others and that has nothing to do with money or position but has everything to do with the degree to which our parents are disciplined, educated, loving and wise. But all of us are affected or more correctly, polluted by the world we live in.

    It’s only the degree to which we’re not polluted that we are “successful,” whatever that means.

    And there but for the grace of God, go all of us.

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  93. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7892960/Dog-sex-act-man-berated

    “A Manawatu man who paid a prostitute to take part in a sex act with his dog will not get the animal back.

    And a judge told the man he showed some ‘‘gall’’ for asking”

    Comedy gold- its not just Christchurch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  94. nasska (11,510 comments) says:

    25% of women in this country are on medication for mental illness. That’s bloody scary… it means 75% are running around with no medication at all!!

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  95. Tauhei Notts (1,713 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay at 7.48.
    If you are going to persist in putting stories like that on this blog I will need to buy incontinence pads.
    I have just pissed myself laughing.

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  96. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Yiou mean like this?

    A woman threatened to call police after claiming that she’d been locked in by staff. When in fact, she had mistaken the “do not disturb” sign on the back of the door as a warning to remain in the room.

    And then;
    “I compared the size of our one-bedroom apartment to our friends’ three-bedroom apartment and ours was significantly smaller.”

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  97. nasska (11,510 comments) says:

    A sexually active middle aged woman informed her plastic surgeon that she wanted her vaginal lips reduced in size because over the years they had become big, loose and floppy. Out of embarrassment, she insisted that the surgery be kept secret and, of course, the surgeon agreed.

    Awakening from the anaesthesia, she found three roses carefully placed beside her on the bed.

    Outraged, she immediately called in the surgeon. “I thought I specifically asked you not to tell anyone about my operation!” The surgeon told her he had carried out her wish for confidentiality and that the first rose was from him. “I felt so sad for you, because you went through this all by yourself”.

    “The second rose is from my nurse. She assisted me in the surgery and understood perfectly, as she had the same procedure done some time ago”.

    “And what about the third rose?” she asked. “That’s from a man in the burn unit. He wanted to thank you for his new ears”.

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  98. chiz (1,144 comments) says:

    The US election campaign has now gone on for so long that it has made a four-year old girl cry.

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  99. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    chiz
    Nice shot at the stegosaurus craving (sic) yesterday.

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  100. chiz (1,144 comments) says:

    thanks.

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  101. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    “Justice” Simon Franks now seems poised to add his moniker to the NZ roll
    of Judicial Dishonour.

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/15277012/appeal-in-red-devils-case-reports/

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  102. Grendel (1,002 comments) says:

    SPC, you cannot get 100% mortgages from the main banks, via the main products. neither from the 2nd tier.

    the only way to get even close is via the Welcome Home Loan, which allows a 100% loan for values up to 200K, and you can get a high LVR for up to 300K under it. thats a specific govt reinsured product, specifically brought in to help low income 1st home buyers.

    So if you can find me prime lending for 100% my business will more than double.

    its not out there, i have a waiting list of people who want it.

    the most you can get via anything but the welcome home loan is 95%.

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  103. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    “Justice” Simon France now seems poised to add his moniker to the NZ roll
    of Judicial Dishonour.

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/15277012/appeal-in-red-devils-case-reports/

    This poor self righteous, self important prig has risen to his level of incompetence.

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  104. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Is Kate Wilkinson a closet unionist?

    We have to say Key has some hopleless useless uneducated socialist Ministers in Cabinet. Past time he had a reshuffle.

    Ms Wilkinson said enacting legislation was likely to include anti-avoidance clauses to prevent companies exploiting any loopholes and the changes would not result in more litigation.

    A bitter row has broken out between Labour Minister Kate Wilkinson and the head of a cleaning company lobbying the Government to scrap protections for vulnerable workers.

    This week Ms Wilkinson announced plans to restrict a controversial provision which prevents low-paid workers – such as cleaners, caterers, orderlies and laundry staff – having their pay and conditions reduced, or being replaced by cheaper contractors, when their work is re-tendered or the company is sold.
    ———————————

    Appalling legislation on top of what is already bad. Job protection for unionists. How in Gods name does wilkinson expect a competitive economy when companies are lumbered with the staff of another company.

    Does Kate wilkinson get funding from UNITE?

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  105. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    I think she is just out of her depth, that’s all. Probably par for the course in any NZ cabinet past about No 12.

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