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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046027</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My bad, I meant which scenario not model. To be more specific, is it fair to say the temperatures over the last 16 years are more consistent with the reduced CO2 emissions scenario than any other scenario?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad, I meant which scenario not model. To be more specific, is it fair to say the temperatures over the last 16 years are more consistent with the reduced CO2 emissions scenario than any other scenario?</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046026</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s results are charted alongside two others in the graph in the BBC link. 

&quot;The Berkeley group&#039;s record of global land temperature mirrors existing ones closely&quot;
 
&quot;Two of those three records are maintained in the US, by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa).&quot; Both shown in the graph. 

&quot;The third is a collaboration between the UK Met Office and UEA&#039;s Climatic Research Unit (CRU), from which the e-mails that formed the basis of the &quot;Climategate&quot; furore were hacked two years ago.&quot;

&quot;Our biggest surprise was that the new results agreed so closely with the warming values published previously by other teams in the US and the UK,&quot; said Prof Muller.&quot;

&quot;This confirms that these studies were done carefully and that potential biases identified by climate change sceptics did not seriously affect their conclusions.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s results are charted alongside two others in the graph in the BBC link. </p>
<p>&#8220;The Berkeley group&#8217;s record of global land temperature mirrors existing ones closely&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Two of those three records are maintained in the US, by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa).&#8221; Both shown in the graph. </p>
<p>&#8220;The third is a collaboration between the UK Met Office and UEA&#8217;s Climatic Research Unit (CRU), from which the e-mails that formed the basis of the &#8220;Climategate&#8221; furore were hacked two years ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Our biggest surprise was that the new results agreed so closely with the warming values published previously by other teams in the US and the UK,&#8221; said Prof Muller.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This confirms that these studies were done carefully and that potential biases identified by climate change sceptics did not seriously affect their conclusions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046024</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which climate model is it consistent with SPC?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which climate model is it consistent with SPC?</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046023</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Global warming research confirmed by new study part financed by sceptics. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global warming research confirmed by new study part financed by sceptics. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071</a></p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046021</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 1998 high, and the 2005 and 2010 repeat debate - what about a rising trend do some people not comprehend? A rising trend requires that the high be replicated. It has been. 

A once in a 100 year flood occuring three times in 12 years is indicative of an increased vulnerability to flooding. 

Clearly the planet is now more subject to higher temperatures than it was prior to this period. This is caused by something. 

There are other things impacting on temperature - solar and planetary climate cycles,  so rather than a year by year constant increase in temperatures the rising trend occurs within other cycles that will either offset or exacerbate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1998 high, and the 2005 and 2010 repeat debate &#8211; what about a rising trend do some people not comprehend? A rising trend requires that the high be replicated. It has been. </p>
<p>A once in a 100 year flood occuring three times in 12 years is indicative of an increased vulnerability to flooding. </p>
<p>Clearly the planet is now more subject to higher temperatures than it was prior to this period. This is caused by something. </p>
<p>There are other things impacting on temperature &#8211; solar and planetary climate cycles,  so rather than a year by year constant increase in temperatures the rising trend occurs within other cycles that will either offset or exacerbate it.</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046019</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 1998 high, and the 2005 and 2010 repeat debate - what about a rising trend do some people not comprehend? A rising trend requires that the high be replicated. It has been. 

A once in a 100 year flood occuring three times in 12 years is indicative of an increased vulnerability to flooding. 

Clearly the planet is now more subject to higher temperatures than it was prior to this period. This is caused by something. 

There are other things impacting on temperature - solar and planetary climate cycles,  these mean that rather than a year by year constant increase in temperatures the rising trend occurs within other cycles that will either offset or exacerbate it. 

Global warming research confirmed by new study part financed by sceptics. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/11125386/sceptic-now-agrees-global-warming-is-real/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1998 high, and the 2005 and 2010 repeat debate &#8211; what about a rising trend do some people not comprehend? A rising trend requires that the high be replicated. It has been. </p>
<p>A once in a 100 year flood occuring three times in 12 years is indicative of an increased vulnerability to flooding. </p>
<p>Clearly the planet is now more subject to higher temperatures than it was prior to this period. This is caused by something. </p>
<p>There are other things impacting on temperature &#8211; solar and planetary climate cycles,  these mean that rather than a year by year constant increase in temperatures the rising trend occurs within other cycles that will either offset or exacerbate it. </p>
<p>Global warming research confirmed by new study part financed by sceptics. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071</a></p>
<p><a href="http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/11125386/sceptic-now-agrees-global-warming-is-real/" rel="nofollow">http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/11125386/sceptic-now-agrees-global-warming-is-real/</a></p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046018</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Global warming research confirmed by new study part financed by sceptics. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/11125386/sceptic-now-agrees-global-warming-is-real/

The 1998 high, and the 2005 and 2010 repeat debate - what about a rising trend do some people not comprehend? A rising trend requires that the high be replicated. It has been. 

A once in a 100 year flood occuring three times in 12 years is indicative of an increased vulnerability to flooding. 

Clearly the planet is now more subject to higher temperatures than it was prior to this period. This is caused by something. 

There are other things impacting on temperature - solar and planetary climate cycles,  these mean that rather than a year by year constant increase in temperatures the rising trend occurs within other cycles that will either offset or exacerbate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global warming research confirmed by new study part financed by sceptics. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071</a></p>
<p><a href="http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/11125386/sceptic-now-agrees-global-warming-is-real/" rel="nofollow">http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/11125386/sceptic-now-agrees-global-warming-is-real/</a></p>
<p>The 1998 high, and the 2005 and 2010 repeat debate &#8211; what about a rising trend do some people not comprehend? A rising trend requires that the high be replicated. It has been. </p>
<p>A once in a 100 year flood occuring three times in 12 years is indicative of an increased vulnerability to flooding. </p>
<p>Clearly the planet is now more subject to higher temperatures than it was prior to this period. This is caused by something. </p>
<p>There are other things impacting on temperature &#8211; solar and planetary climate cycles,  these mean that rather than a year by year constant increase in temperatures the rising trend occurs within other cycles that will either offset or exacerbate it.</p>
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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046014</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[goodnight Griff, you were awesome tonight big boy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goodnight Griff, you were awesome tonight big boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046013</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see your mates at &quot;realcimate&quot; revelling in the Obama victory and mocking &quot;conservatives&quot;. Shows where they&#039;re really coming from! Mmmmmm obama....research grants....mmmmmmm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your mates at &#8220;realcimate&#8221; revelling in the Obama victory and mocking &#8220;conservatives&#8221;. Shows where they&#8217;re really coming from! Mmmmmm obama&#8230;.research grants&#8230;.mmmmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046012</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And just for a last poke at the noddys here is some of the hockey sticks 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
Notice that the high point is still there the medieval warm period was as warm as the fifty&#039;s 
butbutbutbutbut the hockey stick is wrong say the fuckwits
Its still the same old hockey stick with the medieval warm period 
Critical thinking just will not  work within climate denial. There are just to many occasions were the denial ecochamber is proven wrong or full of shit to give them any credence if you can actually think like an adult.

Have a nice day kiddys :lol:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just for a last poke at the noddys here is some of the hockey sticks<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png</a><br />
Notice that the high point is still there the medieval warm period was as warm as the fifty&#8217;s<br />
butbutbutbutbut the hockey stick is wrong say the fuckwits<br />
Its still the same old hockey stick with the medieval warm period<br />
Critical thinking just will not  work within climate denial. There are just to many occasions were the denial ecochamber is proven wrong or full of shit to give them any credence if you can actually think like an adult.</p>
<p>Have a nice day kiddys <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046010</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of liars: Gleick]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of liars: Gleick</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046009</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fuckwits

First story he lied Second story he lied  

Then a third story which ignores that the original quoted met service report was made up ------ a lie it was not met service it was hatcru 4

build up some non entity as a world respected scientist Google her?no just take more lies from the same source as face value

Point out that the lie was only a little one hat cru 4 does not say no warming only a very small amount then play with the statistic and ignore the fact that a once a century record temperate is now happening twice a decade. 1998 record is now normal 

Claim that the start point was not cherry picked if not why not change it? because it was a cherry pick

Refer to the stolen emails as some sort of proof of wrong doing. These have had nine reviews that is acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial 

Notice any pattern

Fuckwits]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuckwits</p>
<p>First story he lied Second story he lied  </p>
<p>Then a third story which ignores that the original quoted met service report was made up &#8212;&#8212; a lie it was not met service it was hatcru 4</p>
<p>build up some non entity as a world respected scientist Google her?no just take more lies from the same source as face value</p>
<p>Point out that the lie was only a little one hat cru 4 does not say no warming only a very small amount then play with the statistic and ignore the fact that a once a century record temperate is now happening twice a decade. 1998 record is now normal </p>
<p>Claim that the start point was not cherry picked if not why not change it? because it was a cherry pick</p>
<p>Refer to the stolen emails as some sort of proof of wrong doing. These have had nine reviews that is acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial acusation review denial </p>
<p>Notice any pattern</p>
<p>Fuckwits</p>
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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046007</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;True or not who cares&quot;
- Griff, 2012]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;True or not who cares&#8221;<br />
- Griff, 2012</p>
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		<title>By: wat dabney</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046006</link>
		<dc:creator>wat dabney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Daily Mail piece is not peer reviewed science&quot; &quot;Here is a real report from real journalist&quot;

Brilliant Griff!

Is your &quot;real journalist&quot; peer-review then? 

And you may recall that the Climategate leak exposed these charlatans as having conspired to control and pervert the peer-review process. Why would anyone trust these crooks? Seriously. In other other context they would be in prison for fraud for such behaviour.

And you fail to link to the Mail&#039;s reply to the supposed refutation, with input by Professor Curry &quot;a former US National Research Council Climate Research Committee member and the author of more than 190 peer-reviewed papers.&quot;

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Hadcrut 4 is one of several similar global databases that reveal the same thing: that since January 1997 there has been no statistically significant warming of the Earth’s surface. 
Between 1980 and the end of 1996,   the planet warmed at a rate close to 0.2 degrees per decade. Since then, says the Met Office, the trend has been a much lower 0.03 degrees  per decade.

However, world average temperature measurements are subject to an error of plus or minus 0.1 degrees, while any attempt to calculate a trend for the period 1997-2012 has an in-built statistical error of plus or minus 0.4 degrees. &lt;b&gt;The claim that there has been any statistically significant warming for the past 16 years is therefore unsustainable.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220722/Global-warming-The-Mail-Sunday-answers-world-warming-not.html

I&#039;ve linked to that reply before Griff, so it is understood that you ignore it not because you&#039;re unaware of it but because it proves you wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Daily Mail piece is not peer reviewed science&#8221; &#8220;Here is a real report from real journalist&#8221;</p>
<p>Brilliant Griff!</p>
<p>Is your &#8220;real journalist&#8221; peer-review then? </p>
<p>And you may recall that the Climategate leak exposed these charlatans as having conspired to control and pervert the peer-review process. Why would anyone trust these crooks? Seriously. In other other context they would be in prison for fraud for such behaviour.</p>
<p>And you fail to link to the Mail&#8217;s reply to the supposed refutation, with input by Professor Curry &#8220;a former US National Research Council Climate Research Committee member and the author of more than 190 peer-reviewed papers.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Hadcrut 4 is one of several similar global databases that reveal the same thing: that since January 1997 there has been no statistically significant warming of the Earth’s surface.<br />
Between 1980 and the end of 1996,   the planet warmed at a rate close to 0.2 degrees per decade. Since then, says the Met Office, the trend has been a much lower 0.03 degrees  per decade.</p>
<p>However, world average temperature measurements are subject to an error of plus or minus 0.1 degrees, while any attempt to calculate a trend for the period 1997-2012 has an in-built statistical error of plus or minus 0.4 degrees. <b>The claim that there has been any statistically significant warming for the past 16 years is therefore unsustainable.</b></i>&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220722/Global-warming-The-Mail-Sunday-answers-world-warming-not.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220722/Global-warming-The-Mail-Sunday-answers-world-warming-not.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve linked to that reply before Griff, so it is understood that you ignore it not because you&#8217;re unaware of it but because it proves you wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1046003</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Right now 
Answer the argument I can not be bothered playing your pathetic  game.

Do you apply critical techniques to the stories you read? 

Do you check the source of stories from blog sites?

Do you read both side of the argument

Are you happy to continue to get your science from blogs that lie to you? 

Do you think that personal attacks on a scientist proves that the science of hundred of researchers is wrong?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Right now<br />
Answer the argument I can not be bothered playing your pathetic  game.</p>
<p>Do you apply critical techniques to the stories you read? </p>
<p>Do you check the source of stories from blog sites?</p>
<p>Do you read both side of the argument</p>
<p>Are you happy to continue to get your science from blogs that lie to you? </p>
<p>Do you think that personal attacks on a scientist proves that the science of hundred of researchers is wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1045998</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Missing hot spot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missing hot spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Luc Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1045995</link>
		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Griff is on fire!

Go you good thing, go!

Pity it&#039;s about the only topic we can agree on....

Hang on...what&#039;s your view on sex (with our fair females, I hasten to add!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griff is on fire!</p>
<p>Go you good thing, go!</p>
<p>Pity it&#8217;s about the only topic we can agree on&#8230;.</p>
<p>Hang on&#8230;what&#8217;s your view on sex (with our fair females, I hasten to add!)</p>
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		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To address the thread topic, as a pragmatist I understand what Tim Groser is saying on our behalf, even as I detest his born-to-rule delivery, and I appreciate the problems we have with ruminant methane emissions whilst rueing the effect on the planet (I know, the pun is subtle), but surely it&#039;s time we reassessed our national brand, 100% Pure, and altered it ever so quietly to...not so 100% Pure.

But, hey, we smile and wave really well and we really are Keewees!

Does that count?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To address the thread topic, as a pragmatist I understand what Tim Groser is saying on our behalf, even as I detest his born-to-rule delivery, and I appreciate the problems we have with ruminant methane emissions whilst rueing the effect on the planet (I know, the pun is subtle), but surely it&#8217;s time we reassessed our national brand, 100% Pure, and altered it ever so quietly to&#8230;not so 100% Pure.</p>
<p>But, hey, we smile and wave really well and we really are Keewees!</p>
<p>Does that count?</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1045993</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And right on Que one of those who fail critical thinking arrives.

Again some sort of personal attack on a scientist sourced from Bishop hill or WUWT or Joe Nova pick one of the denial echo chamber

A watts had his paper trashed is he a failure in your eyes going to call him a money grubbing looser are we?

Here are some  for you to criticize all the bourgeois Left-wing academics 

Week 44/2012

A half-million-year record of paleoclimate from the Lake Manix Core, Mojave Desert, California - Reheis et al. (2012)

The fingerprint of human-induced changes in the ocean&#039;s salinity and temperature fields - Pierce et al. (2012)

Sea ice phenology and timing of primary production pulses in the Arctic Ocean - Ji et al. (2012)

Changes in satellite-derived spring vegetation green-up date and its linkage to climate in China from 1982 to 2010: a multi-method analysis - Cong et al. (2012)

When did modern rates of sea-level rise start? - Gehrels &amp; Woodworth (2012)

Milankovitch tuning of deep-sea records: Implications for maximum rates of change of sea level - Berger (2012)

The early twentieth century warming and winter Arctic sea ice - Semenov &amp; Latif (2012) [FULL TEXT]

Increasing influence of heat stress on French maize yields from the 1960s to the 2030s - Hawkins et al. (2012)

Oxygen trends over five decades in the North Atlantic - Stendardo &amp; Gruber (2012)

Homogenization of mean monthly temperature time series of Greece - Mamara et al. (2012)

Spatial and temporal variations in air temperature and precipitation in the Chinese Himalayas during the 1971–2007 - Yang et al. (2012)

Heat-related mortality in Moldova: the summer of 2007 - Corobov et al. (2012)

Above- and belowground linkages in Sphagnum-peatland: climate warming affects plant-microbial interactions - Jassey et al. (2012)

How did the hydrologic cycle respond to the two-phase mystery interval? - Broecker &amp; Putnam (2012)

Climatic fluctuations as a significant contributing factor for volcanic collapses. Evidence from Mexico during the Late Pleistocene - Capra et al. (2012)

Climate Warming and Permafrost Dynamics in the Antarctic Peninsula Region - Bockheim et al. (2012)

BVOC-aerosol-climate interactions in the global aerosol-climate model ECHAM5.5-HAM2 - Makkonen et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]

The ‘too few, too bright’ tropical low-cloud problem in CMIP5 models - Nam et al. (2012)

Decadal variability of the NAO: Introducing an augmented NAO index - Wang et al. (2012)

Snowfall-driven mass change on the East Antarctic ice sheet - Boening et al. (2012)

Is a decline of AMOC causing the warming hole above the North Atlantic in observed and modeled warming patterns? - Drijfhout et al. (2012)

Intensification of North American megadroughts through surface and dust aerosol forcing - Cook et al. (2012)

Evaluation and response of winter cold spells over Western Europe in CMIP5 models - Peings et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]

A comprehensive review of climate adaptation in the United States: more than before, but less than needed - Bierbaum et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]

Sea level trends, interannual and decadal variability in the Pacific Ocean - Zhang &amp; Church (2012)

Atmospheric carbon dioxide retrieved from the Greenhouse gases Observing SATellite (GOSAT): Comparison with ground-based TCCON observations and GEOS-Chem model calculations - Cogan et al. (2012)

Should the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change recognize climate migrants? - Gibb &amp; Ford (2012) [FULL TEXT]

Food benefit and climate warming potential of nitrogen fertilizer uses in China - Tian et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]

Bunker Cave stalagmites: an archive for central European Holocene climate variability - Fohlmeister et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]

Human impacts on terrestrial hydrology: climate change versus pumping and irrigation - Ferguson &amp; Maxwell (2012) [FULL TEXT]

Optimal growth with adaptation to climate change - Dumas &amp; Ha-Duong (2012) [FULL TEXT]

Recent changes in the dynamic properties of declining Arctic sea ice: A model study - Zhang et al. (2012)


The last one is a favorite of mine :lol:
Climate change prediction: Erring on the side of least drama? - Brysse et al. (2012)

Highlights: ► Climate scientists are not alarmists but have underestimated recent climate changes. ► We identify a directional bias toward erring on the side of least drama (ESLD). ► ESLD is an internal pressure arising from norms of objectivity, restraint, etc. ► ESLD may cause scientists to underpredict or downplay future climate changes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And right on Que one of those who fail critical thinking arrives.</p>
<p>Again some sort of personal attack on a scientist sourced from Bishop hill or WUWT or Joe Nova pick one of the denial echo chamber</p>
<p>A watts had his paper trashed is he a failure in your eyes going to call him a money grubbing looser are we?</p>
<p>Here are some  for you to criticize all the bourgeois Left-wing academics </p>
<p>Week 44/2012</p>
<p>A half-million-year record of paleoclimate from the Lake Manix Core, Mojave Desert, California &#8211; Reheis et al. (2012)</p>
<p>The fingerprint of human-induced changes in the ocean&#8217;s salinity and temperature fields &#8211; Pierce et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Sea ice phenology and timing of primary production pulses in the Arctic Ocean &#8211; Ji et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Changes in satellite-derived spring vegetation green-up date and its linkage to climate in China from 1982 to 2010: a multi-method analysis &#8211; Cong et al. (2012)</p>
<p>When did modern rates of sea-level rise start? &#8211; Gehrels &amp; Woodworth (2012)</p>
<p>Milankovitch tuning of deep-sea records: Implications for maximum rates of change of sea level &#8211; Berger (2012)</p>
<p>The early twentieth century warming and winter Arctic sea ice &#8211; Semenov &amp; Latif (2012) [FULL TEXT]</p>
<p>Increasing influence of heat stress on French maize yields from the 1960s to the 2030s &#8211; Hawkins et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Oxygen trends over five decades in the North Atlantic &#8211; Stendardo &amp; Gruber (2012)</p>
<p>Homogenization of mean monthly temperature time series of Greece &#8211; Mamara et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Spatial and temporal variations in air temperature and precipitation in the Chinese Himalayas during the 1971–2007 &#8211; Yang et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Heat-related mortality in Moldova: the summer of 2007 &#8211; Corobov et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Above- and belowground linkages in Sphagnum-peatland: climate warming affects plant-microbial interactions &#8211; Jassey et al. (2012)</p>
<p>How did the hydrologic cycle respond to the two-phase mystery interval? &#8211; Broecker &amp; Putnam (2012)</p>
<p>Climatic fluctuations as a significant contributing factor for volcanic collapses. Evidence from Mexico during the Late Pleistocene &#8211; Capra et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Climate Warming and Permafrost Dynamics in the Antarctic Peninsula Region &#8211; Bockheim et al. (2012)</p>
<p>BVOC-aerosol-climate interactions in the global aerosol-climate model ECHAM5.5-HAM2 &#8211; Makkonen et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]</p>
<p>The ‘too few, too bright’ tropical low-cloud problem in CMIP5 models &#8211; Nam et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Decadal variability of the NAO: Introducing an augmented NAO index &#8211; Wang et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Snowfall-driven mass change on the East Antarctic ice sheet &#8211; Boening et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Is a decline of AMOC causing the warming hole above the North Atlantic in observed and modeled warming patterns? &#8211; Drijfhout et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Intensification of North American megadroughts through surface and dust aerosol forcing &#8211; Cook et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Evaluation and response of winter cold spells over Western Europe in CMIP5 models &#8211; Peings et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]</p>
<p>A comprehensive review of climate adaptation in the United States: more than before, but less than needed &#8211; Bierbaum et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]</p>
<p>Sea level trends, interannual and decadal variability in the Pacific Ocean &#8211; Zhang &amp; Church (2012)</p>
<p>Atmospheric carbon dioxide retrieved from the Greenhouse gases Observing SATellite (GOSAT): Comparison with ground-based TCCON observations and GEOS-Chem model calculations &#8211; Cogan et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Should the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change recognize climate migrants? &#8211; Gibb &amp; Ford (2012) [FULL TEXT]</p>
<p>Food benefit and climate warming potential of nitrogen fertilizer uses in China &#8211; Tian et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]</p>
<p>Bunker Cave stalagmites: an archive for central European Holocene climate variability &#8211; Fohlmeister et al. (2012) [FULL TEXT]</p>
<p>Human impacts on terrestrial hydrology: climate change versus pumping and irrigation &#8211; Ferguson &amp; Maxwell (2012) [FULL TEXT]</p>
<p>Optimal growth with adaptation to climate change &#8211; Dumas &amp; Ha-Duong (2012) [FULL TEXT]</p>
<p>Recent changes in the dynamic properties of declining Arctic sea ice: A model study &#8211; Zhang et al. (2012)</p>
<p>The last one is a favorite of mine <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Climate change prediction: Erring on the side of least drama? &#8211; Brysse et al. (2012)</p>
<p>Highlights: ► Climate scientists are not alarmists but have underestimated recent climate changes. ► We identify a directional bias toward erring on the side of least drama (ESLD). ► ESLD is an internal pressure arising from norms of objectivity, restraint, etc. ► ESLD may cause scientists to underpredict or downplay future climate changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Luc Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/green_hysteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-1045988</link>
		<dc:creator>Luc Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I suppose people know by now that Gareth Morgan has proposed the most socialist green tax ever,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s not progressive.

If it was progressive, it would be pretty much perfect.

By the way, it&#039;s a tax based on Islamic theology.

They got there first. A looong time ago...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I suppose people know by now that Gareth Morgan has proposed the most socialist green tax ever,</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not progressive.</p>
<p>If it was progressive, it would be pretty much perfect.</p>
<p>By the way, it&#8217;s a tax based on Islamic theology.</p>
<p>They got there first. A looong time ago&#8230;</p>
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