How they voted

November 8th, 2012 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

The CNN exit poll has some interesting breakdowns of how people voted:

  • Men Romney +7%
  • Women Obama +11%
  • Under 30s Obama +23%
  • Over 65s Romney +12%
  • Urban Obama +26%
  • Suburban Romney +2%
  • Rural Romney +20%
  • Whites Romney +20%
  • African-Americans Obama +86%
  • Latinos Obama +44%
  • Liberals Obama +74%
  • Moderates Obama +15%
  • Conservatives Romney +65%
  • Independents Romney +5%
  • Under $50k income Obama +22%
  • $50k to $100k income Romney +6%
  • Over $100k Romney +10%
  • Protestants Romney +15%
  • Catholics Obama +2%

The urban vs suburban split is quite fascinating. Also that Catholics backed Obama.

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73 Responses to “How they voted”

  1. Harriet (5,201 comments) says:

    ‘….The urban vs suburban split is quite fascinating. Also that Catholics backed Obama….”

    “…..The urban vs suburban split is quite fascinating. Also that the only Catholics to back Obama were the dumb Irish fucks from Boston…”

    There. Fixed. :cool:

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  2. East Wellington Superhero (1,139 comments) says:

    Remember a few weeks back when the media inferred whites of racism because Obama was dropping in the white vote.

    African-Americans Obama +86%
    Latinos Obama +44%
    Whites Romney +20%

    Simplistic as it is, these numbers suggest it isn’t whites who are the worst at making judgements based on race.

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  3. East Wellington Superhero (1,139 comments) says:

    Catholics Obama +2%

    That is interesting. Harriet’s comment is awful.

    The lay and clerical leadership in the US RCC are going to have look at why their people are willing to vote for a team that he so clearly threated their way of life.

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  4. GJKiwi (175 comments) says:

    East Wellington Superhero: Why are they worse for choosing Obama? Obviously you are a genius.
    Harriet: “Dumb Irish fucks from Boston” My, my, aren’t we open and liberal minded. Does this imply Irish in other parts of America are more intelligent than those in Boston? And that Catholics in other parts of America aren’t Irish?
    After the 2000 election, someone did a survey showing that those with lower IQs voted for G.W. Bush, whilst those with a higher IQ voted for Al Gore. By doing so, they led America to an economic crash from which the Obama administration is just helping the US recover from. Note that the 2008 economic crash was under the administration of G.W. Bush.
    And Obama is half white protestant, half African, and born in Hawaii.

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  5. Shazzadude (531 comments) says:

    “Remember a few weeks back when the media inferred whites of racism because Obama was dropping in the white vote.

    African-Americans Obama +86%
    Latinos Obama +44%
    Whites Romney +20%

    Simplistic as it is, these numbers suggest it isn’t whites who are the worst at making judgements based on race.”

    Al Gore received 90% of the black vote too, so that argument goes out the window.

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  6. Shazzadude (531 comments) says:

    I wonder what the stats for Asians were-I heard they were well and truely dem this year, which surprised me.

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  7. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    I really don’t understand how Romney failed to connect with the average American. Oh hang on a minute:

    “I’ll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry’s come back.” –Mitt Romney, on the American auto industry, despite having written a New York Times op-ed in 2008 titled “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt,” in which he said if GM, Ford and Chrysler got a government bailout “you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye”.

    “I should tell my story. I’m also unemployed.” —Mitt Romney, speaking in 2011 to unemployed people in Florida. Romney’s net worth is over $200 million.

    “[My wife] drives a couple of Cadillacs.” –Mitt Romney (February 2012)

    “I’ll tell you what, ten-thousand bucks? $10,000 bet?” –Mitt Romney, attempting to make a wager with Rick Perry during a Republican presidential debate to settle a disagreement about health care (December 2011)

    “I have some friends who are NASCAR team owners.” —Mitt Romney, after being asked whether he follows NASCAR racing (February 2012)

    “There were a couple of times I wondered whether I was going to get a pink slip” –Mitt Romney, attempting to identify with the problems of average folk (January 2012)

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  8. Flyingkiwi9 (55 comments) says:

    Under $50k income Obama +22%
    $50k to $100k income Romney +6%
    Over $100k Romney +10%

    Would like to know what this breaks down to in terms of taxed paid. Obviously those paying the bills are voting Romney.

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  9. kowtow (8,945 comments) says:

    Latinos will be almost exclusively catholic………where does that fit in with the stereo types?

    An important figure must be that of who didn’t vote. Any breakdown of overall percentage and race /gender etc?

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  10. Griff (8,419 comments) says:

    Liberals Obama +74%
    Moderates Obama +15%
    Conservatives Romney +65%

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  11. Bob R (1,421 comments) says:

    As Charles Murray tweeted, Steve Sailer’s analysis of affordable family formation and red/blue states is very useful.

    “The best indicator of whether a state will swing Red or Blue? The cost of buying a home and raising a family…

    Affordable family formation won’t predict who will win this November. But it offers profound implications for long-range political strategies. For example, the late housing bubble, over which Republicans George W. Bush and Alan Greenspan complacently presided, reduced the affordability of family formation, which should help the Democrats in the long run.

    This theory suggests that, in order to encourage marriage and children among voters, Republicans should pursue policies that raise wages, lower demand for houses, and keep the public schools from eroding further. The most obvious way to move the country toward a more Republican future is to restrict immigration. This revamped GOP could then position itself as the party of more weddings and more babies, while describing the Democrats, with some accuracy, as the party of dying alone.”

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/value-voters/

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  12. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Then there was this classic from Mitt:

    “We use Ann [Romney] sparingly right now, so that people don’t get tired of her.”

    Hmmm so maybe the public got sick of him? He sure knows how to compliment his missus.

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  13. PaulL (5,449 comments) says:

    Catholic +2%. Another way to say that is that Catholics voted almost exactly the same as the population as a whole. Which means that catholics aren’t defined by their religion, and probably voted based on other things.

    Hispanics +44% Obama is the one that the republicans need to work on, perhaps combined with Women +11% Obama. Note that this still means that Romney got significant votes from these constituencies – it’s not like no women and no Hispanics voted for him, so they shouldn’t go crazy.

    Basics for addressing these two demographics would be:
    1. Immigration, and supporting policies that allow anyone who looks Hispanic to be stopped in the street and questioned as to whether they are a citizen. Funnily enough that’s not something that people who look Hispanic like – they sort of feel like they shouldn’t be treated as a second class citizen that needs to carry proof of citizenship at all times. Since this is a stupid policy, it isn’t all that hard to not support it.

    2. Women. The Tea Party did a lot of this to Romney. The Republicans just need to get over abortion, same sex marriage and access to contraception. The easiest way to do this is to say that they’re not going to attempt to force any of this at a national level, all of those three issues are appropriately issues for individual states. They won’t try to overturn Roe v Wade, they won’t try to implement constitutional bans on these things. That would give them a decent shot at getting back to 50/50 with women. This also means not selecting candidates who say stupid shit about rape, and having the ability to deselect candidates who do say stupid shit about rape.

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  14. kowtow (8,945 comments) says:

    flying kiwi

    Couldn’t agree with you more. A problem with modern universalism is that large sections of society can vote to take advantage of other people’s wealth and efforts.

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  15. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    It would be interesting to do an IQ break-down of the exit polls.

    % IQ above/below 100 voting for Obama/Romney.

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  16. aitkenmike (95 comments) says:

    There you go BB. Despite some of the rabid comments on here from certain vocal members, Catholics were infact 50/50.

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  17. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > Over $100k Romney +10%

    You’re referring to the middle class which of course Romney said he wanted to help because they were struggling.

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  18. aitkenmike (95 comments) says:

    *50/50ish

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  19. Bob R (1,421 comments) says:

    ***Latinos will be almost exclusively catholic………where does that fit in with the stereo types?***

    1. Latinos require higher levels of welfare – accordingly, they are a natural fit for the Democrats.

    2. They want open borders with Mexico – that would be economically disastrous due to (1) above* – but the Democrats are prepared to pander to that (“immigration reform”) even though it disadvantages their own working class voters – particularly African-Americans.

    * http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112167023

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  20. East Wellington Superhero (1,139 comments) says:

    **Sorry, “worst” was the wrong word to use. Though if you didn’t get my point I suspect you’re being obtuse.

    My point was that there is a great deflection amoungt non-whites with who they vote for, yet the media tried to imply that whites were racist because they weren’t voting for Obama.

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  21. Bob R (1,421 comments) says:

    ***% IQ above/below 100 voting for Obama/Romney.***

    @ Hamnida,

    There would be a massive spread. Taking group averages:

    Ashkenazi jewish average IQ is about 115 and 69% supported Obama.

    The East Asian average IQ is about 105 and 73% voted for Obama.

    The European average IQ is 100 and 60% voted for Romney.

    The Hispanic average IQ is 89 and 71% voted for Obama.

    The African American average IQ is 85 and 95% of them voted for Obama.

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  22. Manolo (14,173 comments) says:

    The underclass voted for the guy who offered more welfare benefits, cell phones, foodstamps, free contraception and other gifts. Simple mathematics which added considerable millions to the Messiah’s tally.

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  23. hinamanu (1,068 comments) says:

    Romney only had 10% of the 1% wealthy. I find that utterly intriguing and confirms the banks had endorsed Obama which is why bookies paid out on Obama 2 days before the election.

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  24. kowtow (8,945 comments) says:

    bob r @1pm

    And then the media arses and commentariat pretend to not understand why the white middle classes are so worried (they label them “angry”) and why there is so much support for the Tea Party from the real America. The real America is being sold down the river of “diversity”,welfare,illegal immigration and perpetual debt.

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  25. PaulL (5,449 comments) says:

    @hinamanu: where is that statistic? Of the > 100K Romney was +10%, which is very different than being 10% of the total. Is there another statistic?

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  26. Manolo (14,173 comments) says:

    Eating humble pie on demographics: http://www.dickmorris.com/why-i-was-wrong/

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  27. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    D’ya reckon Romney could have won if he had just put his name on the ballot paper and stayed at home?

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  28. Kleva Kiwi (290 comments) says:

    “hinamanu (1,757) Says:
    November 8th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
    Romney only had 10% of the 1% wealthy. I find that utterly intriguing and confirms the banks had endorsed Obama which is why bookies paid out on Obama 2 days before the election.”

    Your reading that wrong buddy. 10% refers to the vote going 10% in favour of Romney. That means for every 100 votes of people earning $100k or more, 55 voted Romney, and 45 voted Obama

    Lets not even get into the fact that earning 100k does not make you wealthy! Earning 100k isn’t 1% either. 1.93% of all households in USA had annual incomes exceeding $250,000!

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  29. Manolo (14,173 comments) says:

    No, davinci. Only your Smile & Wave is capable of such electoral feat.

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  30. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    … I mean really, given the way A. Kenyan was polling before the hoopla fest, D. Duck or M. Mouse would have slotted home in a canter.

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  31. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    Manolo

    How are you coping? :(

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  32. BigFish (132 comments) says:

    Absolutely appalling comment from Harriet there. Very disappointing and uncalled for, drained the last of any credibility she/he might have had.

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  33. hinamanu (1,068 comments) says:

    Gary Johnson helped take out Romney with the most votes for a Libertarian ever

    Libertarian Gary Johnson Contributes to Romney’s Epic Fail

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  34. hinamanu (1,068 comments) says:

    Bev Harris: Romney Votes Not Counted in Key States

    l

    Alex talks with Bev Harris of Black Box Voting about widespread vote fraud in tuesday’s election. http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

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  35. ChardonnayGuy (1,232 comments) says:

    Which is weird, Hinamanu, because *left-wing* US magazines like Mother Jones were arguing that the *Republicans* would use voter fraud to ‘steal’ the election from Obama….which didn’t happen.
    http://www.motherjones.com

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  36. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > Lets not even get into the fact that earning 100k does not make you wealthy!

    But Romney said he was not wanting to help the poor or the wealthy…he said he wanted to focus on the middle class. And when asked who the middle class were, he said those earning $200-250k. What a dick.

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  37. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    “Ohio’s middle-class families can’t afford four more years like the last four years in the Obama economy. As a result of President Obama’s failed economic policies, jobs are down, poverty is up, and household incomes are at their lowest level in decades. Ohioans deserve better. Mitt Romney will deliver a real recovery for middle-class Americans by helping create 12 million new jobs, more take-home pay, and a trade policy that finally works for hard-working Americans.” – Amanda Henneberg, Romney Campaign Spokesperson

    Yeah it must be a real struggle on a quarter of a mil…

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  38. hinamanu (1,068 comments) says:

    Ok ChardonnayGuy ….watch this

    Max Keiser: Americans Are Euthanized by Big Banks

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  39. Manolo (14,173 comments) says:

    ross69, what a bitter individual you are. It must be awful to have accomplished sweet fuck all in life, so you vent your anger and impotence against achievers and people with money.

    You should move to Cuba. All poverty and mediocrity should be paradise for you. But, do not go to the suburbs reserved for the Party elite or your communist rage could return.

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  40. dime (10,215 comments) says:

    “But Romney said he was not wanting to help the poor or the wealthy…he said he wanted to focus on the middle class. And when asked who the middle class were, he said those earning $200-250k. What a dick.”

    can you please provide a link to that quote? video would be good.

    moron.

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  41. hinamanu (1,068 comments) says:

    Thanks Kleva Kiwi

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  42. Reid (16,719 comments) says:

    This is quite good:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/1107/Election-results-2012-Who-won-it-for-Obama-video

    His main conclusion is the political dominance of white people is over. One stat DPF doesn’t mention above is the Asian vote and Obama got 73% of those. Combine Hispanic, Asian and Black and you have a fairly large proportion.

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  43. Manolo (14,173 comments) says:

    And that’s the beauty of multi-culturalism, isn’t it?
    Barring a miracle, the predominance of Democratic Party candidates is here to stay (at least at presidential level).

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  44. dime (10,215 comments) says:

    is that a stat on how many white guys who hate themselves for being white voted for obama?

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  45. Reid (16,719 comments) says:

    And that’s the beauty of multi-culturalism, isn’t it?

    Yes all you have to do is promise you won’t restrict immigration and promise lots of things to the blacks and the people who pay for the whole thing are virtually guaranteed never to get any say. If that’s not beautiful then what is?

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  46. kowtow (8,945 comments) says:

    Reid

    That’s one of the main reasons why the left all over the west are so enamored with mass immigration. They increase their client base and help guarantee success at the polls. It really is subverting the democratic process.

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  47. andretti (131 comments) says:

    Im such an evil person,im white resonably well off good kids.During this next year to fit into the new order i must divest myself of most of my (well earned) money keep telling myself im not proud to be white and wished I was really born black,and hope at least one of my children is gay (is it still ok to say gay?.)

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  48. RRM (10,099 comments) says:

    The leftists keep telling me I’m racist.

    I’m not racist, I’m just sick of all the blacks and the asians having their say on how they want things to be!

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  49. dime (10,215 comments) says:

    RRM – reckon the left would go apeshit if a right wing govt bought in a shit load of right voting immigrants? nah, the left are tolerant. they would be sweet

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  50. Kea (13,571 comments) says:

    African-Americans Obama +86%

    Imagine a presidential candidate who went on at length about his European ancestry. Who spoke about white people having more influence and rising up. Who celebrated the great achievements and progress of white people.
    Imagine if 86 % of white people then voted for that candidate.

    Ask yourself, how that would be portrayed in the international media? We all know the answer, RACIST AMERICA would be the cry of the left.

    The whole idea that non-whites are a minority is nonsense. Global demographics back up what is self-evident. White people make up between 15 to 20% of the worlds population. With a low birth rate that percentage is falling. If they were a bird they would be on the endangered list. Their habitat, culture and population are all in decline.

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  51. Kea (13,571 comments) says:

    dime, If you want to keep NZ on the right, then let in lots of Asians. Let the Maoris deal with their (real) ancestors on treaty negotiations. Let a group of hard working driven Asian business people decide all matters to do with benefits.

    They are immune from the cry RACIST, because they are not white.

    (In actual fact they are the biggest racial group on the planet and are very racist by our newly found Western liberal standards. Of course they are against racism, towards them :) )

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  52. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > can you please provide a link to that quote?

    You can read the entire interview if you like. Or the bit where Romney makes a dick of himself. Someone earning $200k or more is in the top 4% of income earners in the US but it’s apparent that Romney is unaware of that fact.

    MITT ROMNEY: Well, I said that there are five different studies that point out that we can get to a balanced budget without raising taxes on middle income people. Let me tell you, George, the fundamentals of my tax policy are these. Number one, reduce tax burdens on middle-income people. So no one can say my plan is going to raise taxes on middle-income people, because principle number one is keep the burden down on middle-income taxpayers.

    GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Is $100,000 middle income?

    MITT ROMNEY: No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less…

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/full-transcript-george-stephanopoulos-and-mitt-romney/

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  53. leftyliberal (651 comments) says:

    Kea: Like the 73% of Asians that voted for Obama?

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  54. Kea (13,571 comments) says:

    No leftylibtard, like the 86% of blacks who did.

    I assume your ok with race based politics and electing people on skin color. I am not.

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  55. Bob R (1,421 comments) says:

    ***His main conclusion is the political dominance of white people is over. One stat DPF doesn’t mention above is the Asian vote and Obama got 73% of those. Combine Hispanic, Asian and Black and you have a fairly large proportion.***

    Indeed, as the US slowly transforms into Brazil.

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  56. leftyliberal (651 comments) says:

    Kea: I was referring to your suggestion that encouraging Asian immigration would help “the right”. Not so much in America.

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  57. Kea (13,571 comments) says:

    Ok I get it. I must admit I am surprised by that. Possibly it is because they see an Obama administration as less racist (towards them).

    I have doubts it would work that way in NZ.

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  58. RRM (10,099 comments) says:

    Dime – where in the world would we import a shit load of right wing voting immigrants from?

    Redbaitopia?

    Somalia? (I understand it’s pretty dog-eat-dog there.)

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  59. GJKiwi (175 comments) says:

    You people are getting worked up by an exit poll? Golly gosh. Let us look at which states went for Obama. Oh, that’s right, the bible-belt states and most of the South, which are, in the main the poorer, rural states. So, lower education, and lower paid. Also, yes, there are the wealthy, but the wealthy just use the prejudices of the poorer white. The more educated states voted for Obama. And yes, the hispanics will be the largest group within 30 years. Spanish is spoken by more than 36 million people as a first language in the US. As well, nice comparison by Bob R regarding Brazil. Brazil is a developing country, as is Mexico, both with a fast growing economies. Mexico has, according to the CIA website, the 11th or 12th largest economy. Why? Because they have a free-trade agreement with the US. So, the irony is not lost on me that the idea of free trade, so long espoused by the right, is actually helping both economies. People in the US get cheaper goods and the people in Mexico get more jobs.

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  60. cha (4,144 comments) says:

    where in the world would we import a shit load of right wing voting immigrants from?

    Here’s a likely candidate.

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  61. GJKiwi (175 comments) says:

    Hinamanu: helped. That is at a great stretch. I checked all of the states that Barack Obama won, and in not one of them would the combined total that Romney and Johnson achieved have changed the result, and not even close, except in Ohio, but even then the combined total of all so-called third party results and Romney would have achieved a victory, and that includes the Greens vote. Perhaps what you mean is if the Presidency was based on the popular vote, but even then, that would have been a stretch. The only chance that Romney would have is if the US presidential election had a run-off election between the two leading contenders. I can just see that happening. But overall, Obama received over 50% of the vote, so he would have won outright at the first hurdle.

    http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/President/2012/

    Whatever, Romney was a flip-flopper and out of touch with much of the electorate, but still he got within 2.5 million votes out of over 120 million votes, which is significant. People of all levels of intelligence and wealth, race and religion backed both candidates. Yes, exit polls give somewhat of an indication, but only an indication. The clearest split as I mentioned before is the real split between the bible-belt and the south and the more urbanised East and West Coast voters. The Republicans would attract more people to vote for them if they were more liberal on women’s rights, including abortion and similar issues, and providing better healthcare opportunities for all. However, in doing so, they would alienate their bible-belt supporters. In the end, they always tell porkies by saying they will reduce expenditure, when in fact, they always increase spending, in particular on military spending.

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  62. GJKiwi (175 comments) says:

    Just found the totals: Here, Barack Obama 50.4%, so no chance.

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  63. grumpyoldhori (2,205 comments) says:

    Yep the blacks etc helped Obama win, but one of the biggest fuckups by the GOP was having its male candidate for the senate state that a raped woman should be grateful, or words to that effect.
    No wonder single women broke for Obama 70-30.

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  64. kowtow (8,945 comments) says:

    Single women voted Obummer cos they need the state to take care of them. Jobs, lifestyle abortions,”equality”,security etc. The culmination of the “progressive” agenda. A client electorate.

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  65. cha (4,144 comments) says:

    Nah, white women.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2956322/posts

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  66. kowtow (8,945 comments) says:

    People in the US get cheaper goods (which they don’t really need) while they lose their jobs to cheap Mexican labour.
    Same thing happening here. We get rubbish from China while they get our jobs.Who wins? Certainly not the country losing it’s manufacturing base.

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  67. Fletch (6,529 comments) says:

    Voter fraud: how it is done. A programmer testifies that he wrote a software program to rig elections. Not sure how old it is, but it proves that it can be done.

    Clinton Eugene Curtis testified under oath, before the Ohio State legislature, that he wrote a program to rig elections. This program would flip the total vote from the real winner to the candidate who had been pre-selected to win by the electronic vote counting machines.

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  68. Fletch (6,529 comments) says:

    WASHINGTON, DC – Sources confirmed today that hundreds of thousands of military absentee ballots were delivered hours after the deadline for them to be counted, with preliminary counts showing that they would have overturned the vote in several states and brought a victory for Governor Mitt Romney.

    Officials say the ballots were delivered late due to problems within the military mail system. Tracking invoices show the ballots sat in a warehouse for a month, then they were accidentally labeled as ammunition and shipped to Afghanistan. At Camp Dwyer, Marine Sergeant John Davis signed for them and was surprised at the contents.

    “I told Gunny we got a bunch of ballots instead of ammo,” Davis told investigators earlier today.  “He told me to file a report of improper delivery and that the chain of command would take care of it.  We didn’t hear anything for three weeks.  While we were waiting we came under fire so we dumped a bunch of them in the Hescoes.  We didn’t dig those ones back out.”

    After military officials realized the initial error, the ballots were then sent back to the U.S. but suffered a series of setbacks.

    Twelve boxes of ballots were dropped overboard during delivery to the USS Kearsarge (LHD-3) in the Persian Gulf, then while the ship sailed to Bahrain, postal clerks allegedly pocketed whatever ballots they wanted.

    The remaining absentee ballots were loaded onto a C-130, but the flight was delayed until November 1st so the crew could get tax free pay for the month.  Once the ballots arrived stateside they were promptly mailed to each state’s counting facility, reaching their final destination on November 7th.

    “It’s a shame,” Rear Admiral John Dawes said when asked for comment.  “I expected a delay so I ordered that everyone cast their votes eight months ago. It’s really unfortunate that our mail system failed us and directly affected the course of history.”

    Upon hearing the news, angry Republicans have begun a demand for a recount, but most military absentee voters have shrugged off the news, with many wondering whether the care packages their families sent six months ago were ever going to show up.

    http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/11/military-absentee-ballots-delivered-one-day-late-would-have-swung-election-for-romney/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+duffelblog+%28The+Duffel+Blog%29

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  69. BigFish (132 comments) says:

    Fletch; The Duffel Blog is a news satire site.

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  70. Fletch (6,529 comments) says:

    LOL, well it is funny, yes? :lol:

    Labelled as ammunition.

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  71. simonway (387 comments) says:

    Kea: As was pointed out above, Obama’s share of the black vote this year was lower than Al Gore’s share in 2000.

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  72. mikenmild (12,402 comments) says:

    GJ Kiwi:
    ‘The Republicans would attract more people to vote for them if they were more liberal on women’s rights, including abortion and similar issues, and providing better healthcare opportunities for all. However, in doing so, they would alienate their bible-belt supporters. In the end, they always tell porkies by saying they will reduce expenditure, when in fact, they always increase spending, in particular on military spending.’
    A succinct analysis. Those position will be come marginalised over time as their supporters dwindle in comparison with the much higher rate of population growth among latinos and blacks. Looks for some southern and western states to swing solidly to the dems in the medium term – Texas, Arizona etc

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  73. Manolo (14,173 comments) says:

    Some in California like higher taxes! A turkey voting for Christmas: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324439804578104854095658918.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird

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