Our youngest murderer

November 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

He’s an ordinary-looking teenager, but 13-year-old is now believed to be New Zealand’s youngest murderer.

Nelson pleaded guilty in the High Court at New Plymouth yesterday to the murder of his caregiver, 50-year-old Rosemaree Kurth earlier this year.

Nelson was 13 years and 89 days old when he shot Ms Kurth in the back of the head with a .22 calibre rifle.

The nearest thing to a motive that the Crown could offer to the court was the fact that Ms Kurth had taken his Freeview TV receiver from him.

It’s a sad and puzzling case. To kill someone over such a trivial issue is disturbing – even more so when it is a 13 year old.

However the background, as reported, doesn’t seem typical for young killers. Not in a gang. Acted alone. Rural, not urban.

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60 Responses to “Our youngest murderer”

  1. Harriet (5,099 comments) says:

    “…..However the background, as reported, doesn’t seem typical for young killers. Not in a gang. Acted alone. Rural, not urban…..”

    Just great……now we have to see what the anti-NRA nutters have to say!

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  2. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    While we still wait for the roll-out of ultrafast broadband what makes you think freeview is trivial to rural, gun-toting folk?

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  3. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Still want to have your lambs Harriet! :)

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  4. dog_eat_dog (789 comments) says:

    It’s not like there’s anything worth watching on Freeview.

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  5. tvb (4,491 comments) says:

    So where did the rifle come from and how did the 13 year old know how to use it.

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  6. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Knowing how to kill creatures in a humane manner and applying those principles to a creature that just happens to be your caregiver/stepmother is a huge leap of reality/unreality tvb.

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  7. Reid (16,631 comments) says:

    It is Johnboy that’s the thing but unless this boy is evil it had to be a ‘he just didn’t know what he was doing’ moment. I mean obviously a very troubled kid but at 13 one is still running on kiddy autopilot, doing things without really thinking about them. That’s what I think was happening here.

    The question is, does this fact of adolescent psychology invalidate the mens rea (guilty mind) aspect that distinguishes murder from manslaughter.

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  8. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    He plead guilty…you can be sure if any of the defences you’ve all seen on TV were available they would have been run.

    Where did the gun come from? It was the victim’s partner’s gun. He had taken the boy hunting and fishing and taught him to shoot.

    Killings like this have been not be that rare in the US for years…sadly the big bad world is catching up to us.

    That’s my two cents…

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  9. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Well David. I’ve taken Wife, Daughters, Son-in-Laws, Grandsons, various acquaintances, hunting and fishing.

    None of the buggers have shot me yet.

    I suspect that some of them have probably contemplated it though! :)

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  10. Griff (8,149 comments) says:

    If the gun was secure as per licence requirements This could not have happened.

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  11. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Grandads get old and lose the plot Griff.

    No excuse though.

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  12. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    Griff: You obviously dont spend much time on farms…and what was stopping him using a bit of pipe? a .22 is just (a bit) more certain and less messy…

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  13. Reid (16,631 comments) says:

    you can be sure if any of the defences you’ve all seen on TV were available they would have been run.

    It was more a question about whether the defence should be available, less about whether it is now. Personally if I’m right and he was on kiddy auto-pilot then he clearly didn’t have mens rea. And if he wasn’t on kiddy auto-pilot then why the hell didn’t it occur to him what he was doing?

    Basically it takes a pschyopathic personality to do what this boy did if he was as fully cognisant of his actions as the crime of murder requires him to be, yet how can anyone be a complete, fully-matured psychopath at 13? Or even an immature one? You study people like Bundy, the Hillside Stranglers, Henry Lee Lucas et al and none of them repeat none of them started doing this at this age. All of them were still torturing and killing animals at this age.

    So that’s what I’m wondering. A strange, tragic case.

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  14. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Hope Grandads old ax that had had three new handles and two new heads was securely locked away as well? :)

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  15. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Some folk are just mad as snakes Reid. That is a scenario that our pretentious legal system seems to have trouble dealing with.

    Execution seems like a good answer to me whatever the age! :)

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  16. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Just like to record my prediction, based upon nothing other than common sense.

    (a sense sadly lacking these days)

    When released, he will kill again.

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  17. mikenmild (11,636 comments) says:

    bereal
    Do you happen to know what the recidivism rate is for teenage murderers?

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  18. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    It’s zero if you you shoot them after the first offence Milkey! :)

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  19. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    Reid: I dont disagree with you. But you can be sure if automatism or insanity (temporary or otherwise) was remotely tenable as a defence, it would have been offered. No Judge would accept a guilty plea to murder from a 13 year old unless the Judge was damn sure the boy was fit to plead, and any remotely tenable defence was not a runneri.e. it had been fully considered.

    But good luck with introducing the new defence of “kiddy auto-pilot”

    As you say, most psycopaths are still at the torturing and killing animals stage at 13…who knows why in this case the kid was ready to “graduate”? Ready access to the firearm certainly made it easier..

    Kim Workman will be able to tell what “we” should done; what “interventions” should have been provided to prevent this from happening…

    MM: Probably too few of them to know…There will some US study by some criminologist…mind you, they don’t let them out to do it again so readily over there…

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  20. mikenmild (11,636 comments) says:

    Without checking, I’m pretty sure that a very high percentage of released murderers cause no further trouble. Most murders are family related, aren’t they, and the culprits have a long time to think about what they might do differently.

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  21. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    mikenmild @ 3.54
    No. But this is not a typical case.

    As i predicted this shit will kill again. Put your ring around it.

    Would you adopt him into your house ?

    Fuckwits like tvb, you,and Griff seem to believe that the problem here is the availibility
    of firearms in rural communities.

    Hey mikenmild, why not adopt this poor hard done by poor sod yourself when he gets out ?

    Hint. If you do, don’t leave any knives lying around.
    And don’t say anything to him that might piss him off. You idiot.

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  22. mikenmild (11,636 comments) says:

    He’ll be too old for adoption when he gets out, bereal, but that was a good suggestion. Would you like to have him stay, help him get a job maybe? He’s grown up on a farm, do you think he would be alright in a city? Maybe he could help you with poisoning your neighbours’ cats.

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  23. Graeme Edgeler (3,289 comments) says:

    David G – do you know if the SST are going to complain that the failure of the law to provide that this offending will receive a strike warning is a “loophole”?

    :-)

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  24. mikenmild (11,636 comments) says:

    I was wondering about that. Is it because he is too young? Do murderers get strike warnings: “This is your second murder now; and if you do it again the consequences will be very serious.”

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  25. Griff (8,149 comments) says:

    beryl

    Just pointing out that we have Gun laws for a reason. You could say a genial reminder to the farmers that is not a good idea to have a loaded .22 behind the kitchen door. storage out side of your gun licences requirements.
    As to the present gun laws in new zealand a good balance is struck between The availability for hunting animals and their availability for shooting humans. Particularly if you keep to the laws requirements when you store them.

    At that young age Before I condemned the child I would like to know a lot more of his background. He may be a nutters he may be a stupid kid.

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  26. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    i don’t need any help with my neighbours cats, thats history, i delt with that problem. glycol and cream.

    But seriously, can’t you see that when you have a person who would kill his caregiver for the reasons
    he has offerred, society deserves to be protected.

    If it was your call would you let this poor, missunderstood Christian out so he could live with your daughter ?

    Who will be responsible when he kills again ?
    Obviousy not him in your mind.

    Eye for an eye. Life for a life.

    OK we don’t hang them these days but this POS should Never be let out.

    The person he killed will never come back to life.

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  27. mikenmild (11,636 comments) says:

    bereal, what assurance can we have that your aberrant development has stopped at murdering pets? When you leave primary school, will you be moving on to more serious offending? Get help now!

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  28. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    Graeme: funny you should ask that..the press report had Justice Brewer giving him a “strike” warning..odd… I cant think the reporter was well informed enough to just make that up…

    You might have deduced somthing from my lack of public comment on the other loophole?

    The failure to give warnings at the correct time (upon conviction being entered) is a very real problem though…but I think we have that sorted…

    and FWIW I agree that he will get out, and may well kill again…as will Kuraraiki (or however you spell the little pricks name)

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  29. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Words almost fail me when i see the puke Griff just posted @ 4.27

    OK Griff (you fuckwit) lets humour you and say this poor killer is a nutter.
    Lets say he is just a, ( Stupid kid.)

    Why would you want to condemn him ?

    After all, he just shot his caregiver in the back of her head.

    Whats wrong with that Griff ?

    Hey, shithead, spell out the circumstances that may cause you to excuse his action in shooting
    his caregiver in the back of her head ?

    Give us one you fuckwit.

    C’mon fuckwit, give us one reason you would offer to justify this murder ?

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  30. Griff (8,149 comments) says:

    Beryl
    I said I would like more information
    He is a kid FFS
    You seem to want to hang him from the nearest lamppost.
    Murder 12 years: With the unfortunate result that you have a fully trained feral at the end.

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  31. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    beryl: settle down mate…I dont know that Griff is actually “providing an excuse”…rather, like the rest of us, wondering what the hell can have gone wrong, genetically or otherwise, for a 13 year old to do that…

    But as I said earlier in this thread, not unique….remember those two charmers in the UK who led a little boy away from a mall and put him on train tracks where he got blown to pieces by a train? Both are out now, one at least has re-offended seriously..

    Griff: (Since I am an equal opportunity critiquer) It is too late for this kid now mate, whatever they do…”give me a child until he is seven” and all that….

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  32. Nostalgia-NZ (5,272 comments) says:

    I’m struggling with the intention factor. I’d like to see it confirmed on what basis a guilty plea was accepted.

    Bereal: I seem to recall phil u having a go at you about killing some sort of animals for no reason other than that you hated them, given that it seems odd that you are so intolerant of others not sharing your views – any connection with that?

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  33. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Call me a silly old fool but it does tend to strike me that we worry far too much in this benighted little country about the motivation of the preps and their supposed rehabilitation than giving them a bloody good serve for the heinous crimes they commit.

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  34. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    ..and Beryl: If you note further up, I agreed with you at the outset that this guy will in all likelihood kill again…And yes, applying pure logic, a bullet in the head is the only solution, but we all know that that is never going to happen, and at his age, neither is LWOP….I will be very interested though in what the judge gives the POS Loffley who stomped JJ Lawerence so hard his liver split in half…LWOP is available for this genetic or environmental mistake…He wont get it…

    If you are still here Graeme E…what’s the likely sentencing range for him? Lets assume he has some previous for violence…

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  35. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Keeps lawyers in work I guess. :)

    Not that I am very popular in commenting on that particular aspect I suppose! :)

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  36. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    Nostalgia: See my 4.03….if there was any doubt in the Judge’s mind that it was inappropriate (Brewer J is a very careful Judge) the Judge would not have accepted the guilty plea…

    Johnboy: You are right, you are not…plse dont go there again…play nicely with the others…

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  37. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    Johnboy: Consider this… in entering a most unusual guilty plea, this kid’s lawyer deprived himself or herself of perhaps a two or three week trial in fees? Two or three times that in preparation time, briefing a couple of experts to say the kid thought he was Rambo on a mission from God or a mountain lion…why do you suppose the lawyer made that call? (I have no idea who counsel was…)

    Of to watch a doco on prohibition on the History channel…kind of apt….

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  38. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Well David you just,from a lawyers point of view, said all the things I say from a hatred of lawyers point of view.

    The fact that I detest Lord Birkenhead for his duplicity, despite the accolades that some folks here seem to award him, is neither here nor there.

    A piece of shit still smells like a piece of shit no matter how much air freshener he dispenses. :)

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  39. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Jesus O’Dear,

    What do you need to do in New Zealand that our society judges that you deserve life
    in prison ?

    Hey girls, is there any offense that you might commit that life warrants life.

    C’mon girls, give us one.

    tvb. Griff, mikenmild, is there any crime that may be committed in New Zealand that could
    warrant a sentence of life (Meaning life)

    Give us an example of a crime that could be committed that even you would agree that
    an appropriate sentence may be life without parole.

    is there such a crime in your minds ?

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  40. Nostalgia-NZ (5,272 comments) says:

    Yes, I saw that DG. I was wondering about the extent of it, the boy’s representation and what was used to satisfy the Court that the boy understood what he was doing, and the consequences for both the killing pleading guilty. I presume most of it will be suppressed but I think many people with children, and others across the board will be thinking about this case.

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  41. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Why are you worried about a life sentence Beryl?

    Death sentences are what we should be getting back to.

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  42. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Simple question
    for mikenmild, tvb, Griff, et al.

    Is there any crime that could be committed that would deserve the sentence of, “Life in prison
    without the possibility of parole.” ?

    If so, give us an example of such a crime.

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  43. Griff (8,149 comments) says:

    Death for three strikes on capital crime. Hung for the second on conviction of the third. With no appeal process Open to the lawyers.Dead within twenty four hours.

    Capital crime.
    murder
    extreme violence
    Armed robbery
    And any other society holds abhorrent.

    beryl The first offence of a capital crime is not on my list.
    People make mistakes even thirteen year old boys.

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  44. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Shit. Three murders before you get topped. Griff you old softie you! :)

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  45. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Griff,
    now , that was a very good post. @5.41
    Must be one of your very best,

    but the question is, what the fuck were you trying to say ?

    maybe sumwun could interpret.

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  46. Griff (8,149 comments) says:

    Some recidivist criminals will acquired three convictions for violent crime and armed robbery. three strikes
    I Don’t want new Zealand to execute indiscriminately just those who make the extra effort to earn termination.

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  47. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    JB:..Ah…your 5.26 doesnt actually address the point I was making (it’s ad time on the doco)…which is this…if all lawyers are as venal as you believe, why did this guy voluntarily deprive himself of a big cheque? Everyone would have expected a not guilty plea and a spirited (and costly) “no stone left unturned” defence..

    Your response please sir….

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  48. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    How fukin ludicrous.

    See Griff @ 5.41 His great truth. “People make mistakes.”

    Now if you ever needed to see a more total ,moronic, idiotic statement,
    ever then there you have it.

    “People make mistakes.” Thanks Griff. (You fukin idiot.)

    Hey Griff. Hitler made mistakes.
    Mao made mistakes.
    Pol Pot made mistakes.
    Stalin made mistakes. etc. etc………………..

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  49. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    beryl: I have looked at that post….I’m afraid it’s beyond me sir…and I do have a law degree and some facility for the written word..

    JB: Where are you? You’re not doing a Penny on me when you get asked an awkward question, surely?

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  50. Nostalgia-NZ (5,272 comments) says:

    What do you think Greg King would have advised his client in such a case DG?
    I suspect this youth just shut down, may have done a long time earlier, and didn’t co-operate in anyway with interviews to determine his state of mind at the time and motivation. In itself reason for concern, because usually an offender will be looking to diminish their guilt at least by blaming some circumstances leading to the shooting. On the other hand what does the lawyer or the Court do if the youth simply insists he’s guilty. The police report, little we know of it, indicated that it was over a minor event.

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  51. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    One thing we can all take to the bank.

    Fuckin idiots such as, say, tvb, Griff, mikkenmild, or others of their ilk
    will not be seen tonite, trying to defend their position.

    Watch for these non nothings to not make their point.

    As they say. “Speak up monkey speak.”

    Gutless monkeys.

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  52. Longknives (4,853 comments) says:

    “Nelson was 13 years and 89 days old when he shot Ms Kurth in the back of the head with a .22 calibre rifle.”

    Watch this space- A former All Black, a foreign’ expert’ and John Campbell onboard and the entire nation could be brainwashed into thinking Ms Kurth shot herself!

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  53. Longknives (4,853 comments) says:

    “i don’t need any help with my neighbours cats, thats history, i delt with that problem. glycol and cream.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

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  54. David Garrett (7,518 comments) says:

    beryl: then again, they may just have better things to do on a Saturday night…For me, there’s not much point going to the local hostelry to drink coke, let alone to some watering hole in the Viaduct on the increasingly slim off chance…sad innit?

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  55. Longknives (4,853 comments) says:

    David- Missing your Saturday night ‘banter’ with Phil?? You could always bank on Philu being home on a Saturday night……

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  56. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Griff @ 5.56

    Oh dear, ladies and gentlemen.
    We have to feel sorry for poor old Griff.

    You would have thought Griff could not have topped his gormless contribution @ 5.41
    but he rose to the occaison and excelled even his own idiocy with whatever he was trying to say @ 5.56

    The poor sod.

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  57. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > Without checking, I’m pretty sure that a very high percentage of released murderers cause no further trouble

    I think you’re right. Certainly David Bain has been well-behaved thus far. :)

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  58. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    I wonder why the boy wasn’t living with either his mother or father.

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  59. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    Griff suggests:

    Death for three strikes on capital crime…

    …And any other society holds abhorrent.

    Let’s see… not so long ago our abhorrence of homosexuality would have led to the dispatch of those heinous criminals… go back a bit further and it would have been the suffragettes… further still and we’d be lopping the heads off left-handers.

    See, what appals society changes over time. Frankly, I find ill-thought-out blog comments about state-sanctioned murder based on what someone else doesn’t like others doing as pretty abhorrent. Any chance we could make that an executable offence? No appeal, of course, because it’s not like the various Innocence Projects around the world have ever found an innocent man sitting on Death Row…

    Meanwhile David Garrett suggests:

    It is too late for this kid now mate, whatever they do…”give me a child until he is seven” and all that…

    I spent several months, pro bono, writing an appeal to the Prisoners Review Board to allow a middle aged murder on life parole to come into WA from Queensland. He’d calmly shot his wife in the back of the head while they were sitting on opposite sides of the bed, because she was regaling him with yet another story of how she’d set out to, and succeeded in, sleeping with one of his friends. By all accounts she was a horrible woman (though not, of course, implying he should have done anything other than dumped her, preferably with as small a settlement as he could extract). He was an absolutely model prisoner, and was released on his first application after 10 years.

    However he knew no one in Queensland, was forced to live (illegally) above the panelbeaters that gave him work, and thus had none of the support needed for successful rehabilitation. Since coming to WA he lives with his former partner, helps her with her disability, and has re-established contact with the daughters they had together (tragically, one died while he was in prison and depsite her pleas he was not allowed to see her one last time).

    He and his ex have made myself and my partner some wonderful crafts as a “thank you” and I’ve I’ve visited them on occasion over the years. Strangely ernough he has never blown my head off, or anyone else’s.

    Everyone can change, David. You just have to want to.

    While Reid suggests:

    Basically it takes a pschyopathic personality to do what this boy did…

    I think that hits the nail on the head. I’ve dealt with my fair share of pissed off teenagers and I’m sure some have lain awake at nights plotting ever more ingenious ways to kill me… but to carry it out requires a brain snap of immense proportion, moreso than any “kiddy auto pilot” would bring about.

    The very fact we’re all going “He did it over Freeview… WTF?” is indicative of psychopathic behaviour since naturally empathetic human beings find it impossible to comprehend how someone could do something so cold-blooded. Sending this kid off to a secure treatment facility, to be released only when and if he has a clean bill of health and then only in a carefully staged re-entry to society, so his ability to interact with others without his psychopathology manifesting, is the safest way of dealing with him. Such release to be considered only after he has served a suitable term for the punishment aspect of the sentence to be satisfied.

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  60. MsHaitch (2 comments) says:

    Master Jordan’s actions seem to be a little more premeditated than would be suggested by ‘kiddy auto pilot’. The kid had been trained to shoot by his grandad, and was familiar with how to handle the rifle. Earlier in the day, when his grandfather took the dogs for a walk, he obtained the gun and ammunition, and hid it in the shed. Then, when his grandfather left the house again to attend to the cattle, he got it and used it point blank on Rosemaree Kurth. He then dragged her body into the bedroom, selected some money and a necklace to take with him, and headed off in the farm vehicle. That seems a little cold blooded, with time in between to change his mind or cool down. Whose knows though, whether he experienced the type of smoldering resentment that can build over time into hatred. It also said that Jordan perceived that she had prevented him from seeing his mother, and she may have been a right old biddy to him over a long period of time. He was not with either of his parents, so I also take it that his background had not been the most stable or supportive. However, lots of other people go through crappy childhoods and manage to refrain from this kind of thing. A kitchen knife or ashtray to the back of the head would speak more to a crime of passion than this particular story. Who knows though, perhaps he should have had the same judge who let the guy off who was training to be a surgeon, for giving his wife the bash, and put it down to going through a stressful time…

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