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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/pundits_on_labour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1052731</link>
		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[orewa
Like I said, that scenario has been lifted from a spy thriller. Any party could roll its leader after an election win. Do you see any likelhood of that actually happening?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>orewa<br />
Like I said, that scenario has been lifted from a spy thriller. Any party could roll its leader after an election win. Do you see any likelhood of that actually happening?</p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Labour and Greenpeace NZ can still win the 2014 election. Remember this is MMP.
Winston may feature but .................
If Shearer is leader of the largest of these two parties he can still start as PM but can get rolled easily 3 months later.
They could even let Norman in, if he  does not co-operate with Labour, as Labour will not do what Greenpeace NZ want.
Only one of the many permutations under the ensuing 2014 election.
Under MMP it is doubtful if National et al can get a majority of seats to govern effectively alone, as at present - the slightes swing of less than 2% will see National out for a very long time, as legislation by Labour/Greenpeace will ensure that happening]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour and Greenpeace NZ can still win the 2014 election. Remember this is MMP.<br />
Winston may feature but &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
If Shearer is leader of the largest of these two parties he can still start as PM but can get rolled easily 3 months later.<br />
They could even let Norman in, if he  does not co-operate with Labour, as Labour will not do what Greenpeace NZ want.<br />
Only one of the many permutations under the ensuing 2014 election.<br />
Under MMP it is doubtful if National et al can get a majority of seats to govern effectively alone, as at present &#8211; the slightes swing of less than 2% will see National out for a very long time, as legislation by Labour/Greenpeace will ensure that happening</p>
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		<title>By: orewa1</title>
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		<dc:creator>orewa1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suppose in 2014 Labour won, the ballot was called, and the unions used their block to elect a far left PM who completely changed the policy agenda. Maybe the Governor General would have to step in - shades of Sir John Kerr dismissing Australia&#039;s Whitlam government in 1975. 

Hold on - lets keep the monarchy for a while until we see how this plays out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose in 2014 Labour won, the ballot was called, and the unions used their block to elect a far left PM who completely changed the policy agenda. Maybe the Governor General would have to step in &#8211; shades of Sir John Kerr dismissing Australia&#8217;s Whitlam government in 1975. </p>
<p>Hold on &#8211; lets keep the monarchy for a while until we see how this plays out.</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
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		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He’s clearly quite a guy! Smart, clever, infinitely well-qualified educationally. A proven Government minister. No wonder the mainstream Labour troglodites don’t care much for him. Tall poppy syndrome at work there methinks!!

He’s a guy who has the ability to do a lot for New Zealand. Never mind all this piffling Labour party skull-duggery and shadow boxing – the sooner Cunliffe sees the light, crosses the floor, and switches his allegience to National the better!!
..................................................
Yes he&#039;s the property investors pigeon:

“The big adverse gap in productivity between New Zealand and other countries opened up from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The policy choice that increased immigration – given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration. This adjustment would have involved a lower real interest rate (and cost of capital) and a lower real exchange rate, meaning a more favourable environment for raising the low level of productive capital per worker and labour productivity. The low level of capital per worker is a striking symptom of New Zealand’s economic challenge.
”
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf


Government policies blamed for house prices 

Immigration and tax breaks for investment in residential property are being cited as the underlying causes of steep increases in the cost of housing over the past decade. 
New Zealand now boasts one of the highest rates of home unaffordability in the world as a result of prices rising far faster than incomes, and the government&#039;s Savings Working Group blames that squarely on the policies of successive governments. 
Although &quot;the favourable tax treatment of property investment&quot; accounted for about 50% of house price increases between 2001 and 2007, the working group said, there was also strong evidence that rapid swings in immigration brought about price-rise &quot;shocks&quot;. 
There was a sharp spike in immigration in 2001, 2002 and 2003 and, said working group committee member Dr Andrew Coleman, it appeared that property prices did not fall anywhere near as greatly when immigration fell again. 
The report added that there was little evidence that immigration boosted local incomes. In fact, the need to build roads and schools meant that net migration contributed to the national deficit. 
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/4622459/Government-policies-blamed-for-house-prices



Migrant benefit &#039;overstated&#039; By DAN EATON - The Press &#124; Saturday, 7 April 2007 Immigration does not benefit New Zealand as much as the Government claims, according to new research. Current policies are also hitting Kiwi families in the pocket and the number of new immigrants should be slashed, says its author, a Massey University economist. The research, by Greg Clydesdale, who teaches at the university&#039;s department of management and international business in Auckland, drew a rapid response yesterday from the Government. Immigration Minister David Cunliffe said attracting skilled migrants was &quot;a must&quot; for economic growth. He said links drawn in the research between soaring house prices, mortgage rates and immigration were too simplistic. Clydesdale said New Zealanders were not being given an accurate assessment of how immigration was affecting the economy and that most previous research on the subject resembled a &quot;wish list&quot;, with little hard data showing economic benefits. 
www.nnnforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-100635.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He’s clearly quite a guy! Smart, clever, infinitely well-qualified educationally. A proven Government minister. No wonder the mainstream Labour troglodites don’t care much for him. Tall poppy syndrome at work there methinks!!</p>
<p>He’s a guy who has the ability to do a lot for New Zealand. Never mind all this piffling Labour party skull-duggery and shadow boxing – the sooner Cunliffe sees the light, crosses the floor, and switches his allegience to National the better!!<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Yes he&#8217;s the property investors pigeon:</p>
<p>“The big adverse gap in productivity between New Zealand and other countries opened up from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The policy choice that increased immigration – given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration. This adjustment would have involved a lower real interest rate (and cost of capital) and a lower real exchange rate, meaning a more favourable environment for raising the low level of productive capital per worker and labour productivity. The low level of capital per worker is a striking symptom of New Zealand’s economic challenge.<br />
”<br />
<a href="http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf</a></p>
<p>Government policies blamed for house prices </p>
<p>Immigration and tax breaks for investment in residential property are being cited as the underlying causes of steep increases in the cost of housing over the past decade.<br />
New Zealand now boasts one of the highest rates of home unaffordability in the world as a result of prices rising far faster than incomes, and the government&#8217;s Savings Working Group blames that squarely on the policies of successive governments.<br />
Although &#8220;the favourable tax treatment of property investment&#8221; accounted for about 50% of house price increases between 2001 and 2007, the working group said, there was also strong evidence that rapid swings in immigration brought about price-rise &#8220;shocks&#8221;.<br />
There was a sharp spike in immigration in 2001, 2002 and 2003 and, said working group committee member Dr Andrew Coleman, it appeared that property prices did not fall anywhere near as greatly when immigration fell again.<br />
The report added that there was little evidence that immigration boosted local incomes. In fact, the need to build roads and schools meant that net migration contributed to the national deficit.<br />
<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/4622459/Government-policies-blamed-for-house-prices" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/4622459/Government-policies-blamed-for-house-prices</a></p>
<p>Migrant benefit &#8216;overstated&#8217; By DAN EATON &#8211; The Press | Saturday, 7 April 2007 Immigration does not benefit New Zealand as much as the Government claims, according to new research. Current policies are also hitting Kiwi families in the pocket and the number of new immigrants should be slashed, says its author, a Massey University economist. The research, by Greg Clydesdale, who teaches at the university&#8217;s department of management and international business in Auckland, drew a rapid response yesterday from the Government. Immigration Minister David Cunliffe said attracting skilled migrants was &#8220;a must&#8221; for economic growth. He said links drawn in the research between soaring house prices, mortgage rates and immigration were too simplistic. Clydesdale said New Zealanders were not being given an accurate assessment of how immigration was affecting the economy and that most previous research on the subject resembled a &#8220;wish list&#8221;, with little hard data showing economic benefits.<br />
<a href="http://www.nnnforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-100635.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nnnforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-100635.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: lofty</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/pundits_on_labour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1052639</link>
		<dc:creator>lofty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RF...I care.

This country deserves a robust opposition, filled with COMPETANT MPs.

I have railed against the rainbow faction, the introduction of MP,S with no life skills, setting themselves up for life at our expense, (see chippy) .

I left the fold when my party embraced PC and sycophantic nonsense.

I am unlikely To go back now even though deep down I would rather.

My party has been destroyed and I have vented my spleen here and in other forums, to no avail, self destruction is the order of the day.

I see commenters here who defend the Labour Party come hell or high water, but obviously have little age on them, and the recent history is lost already.

I have been in the loop for so long and I know how it has all fallen apart.

I see no one including Cunniliffe who has any ability.

Ah well I will carry on supplying employment and income, enabling our employees to pay the mortgage, school fees, groceries etc.

Politicians now leave me cold...

Labour has nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RF&#8230;I care.</p>
<p>This country deserves a robust opposition, filled with COMPETANT MPs.</p>
<p>I have railed against the rainbow faction, the introduction of MP,S with no life skills, setting themselves up for life at our expense, (see chippy) .</p>
<p>I left the fold when my party embraced PC and sycophantic nonsense.</p>
<p>I am unlikely To go back now even though deep down I would rather.</p>
<p>My party has been destroyed and I have vented my spleen here and in other forums, to no avail, self destruction is the order of the day.</p>
<p>I see commenters here who defend the Labour Party come hell or high water, but obviously have little age on them, and the recent history is lost already.</p>
<p>I have been in the loop for so long and I know how it has all fallen apart.</p>
<p>I see no one including Cunniliffe who has any ability.</p>
<p>Ah well I will carry on supplying employment and income, enabling our employees to pay the mortgage, school fees, groceries etc.</p>
<p>Politicians now leave me cold&#8230;</p>
<p>Labour has nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 07:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who cares... Labour is finished.    I guess the Greens are now the opposition.         Shearer is toast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares&#8230; Labour is finished.    I guess the Greens are now the opposition.         Shearer is toast.</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 07:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Labour party leader secure in the job would have no problem with greater party participation. 

The Green Party functions quite well with this sort of arrangement. 

If those who support National as members are happy to cede leadership selection to caucus then fine, but don&#039;t expect other parties to do so. 

Why people in the media would be concerned about the impact of democracy in the Labour party on caucus I  do not know - might it reduce their influence in managing the political process (where MP&#039;s and media inter-act in a special relationship). 

The more pertinent detail is party input on policy formulation - that means less influence of media/established itnerests on MP&#039;s as they are mere conduits for party policy implementation.   

The people concerned about union votes are not members of the Labour Party. Those who do not want Labour to represent the interests of workers are not members of the Labour Party (though some were once - such as Peter Dunne, Richard Prebble, Roger Douglas etc).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Labour party leader secure in the job would have no problem with greater party participation. </p>
<p>The Green Party functions quite well with this sort of arrangement. </p>
<p>If those who support National as members are happy to cede leadership selection to caucus then fine, but don&#8217;t expect other parties to do so. </p>
<p>Why people in the media would be concerned about the impact of democracy in the Labour party on caucus I  do not know &#8211; might it reduce their influence in managing the political process (where MP&#8217;s and media inter-act in a special relationship). </p>
<p>The more pertinent detail is party input on policy formulation &#8211; that means less influence of media/established itnerests on MP&#8217;s as they are mere conduits for party policy implementation.   </p>
<p>The people concerned about union votes are not members of the Labour Party. Those who do not want Labour to represent the interests of workers are not members of the Labour Party (though some were once &#8211; such as Peter Dunne, Richard Prebble, Roger Douglas etc).</p>
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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 07:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;The February following each election, Labour will be able to boot out their sitting leader – that leader may have just months earlier been crowned Prime Minister.&#039;
I think that bit was lifted from the plot of a Frederick Forsyth novel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The February following each election, Labour will be able to boot out their sitting leader – that leader may have just months earlier been crowned Prime Minister.&#8217;<br />
I think that bit was lifted from the plot of a Frederick Forsyth novel.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpyoldhori</title>
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		<dc:creator>grumpyoldhori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 06:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Labour has gone completely mad, allowing Party members to choose the leader will end up with tea party types running the bloody party.
But, sine they have done it it gives us a chance to get rid of Shearer and replace him with Cunliffe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour has gone completely mad, allowing Party members to choose the leader will end up with tea party types running the bloody party.<br />
But, sine they have done it it gives us a chance to get rid of Shearer and replace him with Cunliffe.</p>
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		<title>By: David Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 06:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see we have a few new commenters on here....funnily enough they all sound of the leftish persuasion...perhaps they have been banned from the Standard for &quot;thought crime&quot; ??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see we have a few new commenters on here&#8230;.funnily enough they all sound of the leftish persuasion&#8230;perhaps they have been banned from the Standard for &#8220;thought crime&#8221; ??</p>
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		<title>By: Ancient Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ancient Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 05:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there is an underestimation of Union power under the old rules.
For an electorate to get a &quot;local&quot; selection they had to have 600 members.
If they did not the Unions could either stack the LERC&#039;s with their ghost membership.
In any event Head Office made the selections and if a potential leader had control of the presidency it was a done d3eal.
How do you think Helen got control of the party, drove out all dissidents and ruled every nomination from 1988 to her leaving.
This actually tones down Union control. Since they are mainly a public sector power group getting their party into power to raise their wages it is more than they deserve.
There were real Unionists and workers in the membership once but it is now so long ago its a fading memory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is an underestimation of Union power under the old rules.<br />
For an electorate to get a &#8220;local&#8221; selection they had to have 600 members.<br />
If they did not the Unions could either stack the LERC&#8217;s with their ghost membership.<br />
In any event Head Office made the selections and if a potential leader had control of the presidency it was a done d3eal.<br />
How do you think Helen got control of the party, drove out all dissidents and ruled every nomination from 1988 to her leaving.<br />
This actually tones down Union control. Since they are mainly a public sector power group getting their party into power to raise their wages it is more than they deserve.<br />
There were real Unionists and workers in the membership once but it is now so long ago its a fading memory.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Michael McKenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant Michael McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 05:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it&#039;ll take them a month to do anything they may well be the best government ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;ll take them a month to do anything they may well be the best government ever.</p>
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		<title>By: mavxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mavxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 05:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Greens are now the effective leaders of the Opposition.

The next Prime Minister of the Left (well, more left than Key), will be Russell Norman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Greens are now the effective leaders of the Opposition.</p>
<p>The next Prime Minister of the Left (well, more left than Key), will be Russell Norman.</p>
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		<title>By: tvb</title>
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		<dc:creator>tvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorting out a rival while maintaining party unity is not an uncommon challenge. John Key managed to cleverly sort out Bill English. Tony Blair never solved the problem with Brown. It seems Tony Abbott has been clever in the way he had sorted Turnbill. Harold Wilson had Jim Callaghan but they reached an accommodation. Bolger had Winston Peters and they eventually made up. But Bolger did work hard at the relationship. So Shearer has Cunliffe with no solution in sight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorting out a rival while maintaining party unity is not an uncommon challenge. John Key managed to cleverly sort out Bill English. Tony Blair never solved the problem with Brown. It seems Tony Abbott has been clever in the way he had sorted Turnbill. Harold Wilson had Jim Callaghan but they reached an accommodation. Bolger had Winston Peters and they eventually made up. But Bolger did work hard at the relationship. So Shearer has Cunliffe with no solution in sight.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fran&#039;s piece was excellent and she hits the nail on the head.  Shearer is unable to think on his feet - huge setback for a leader.  He will be no match for Key in a debate if he can&#039;t speak without a script.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fran&#8217;s piece was excellent and she hits the nail on the head.  Shearer is unable to think on his feet &#8211; huge setback for a leader.  He will be no match for Key in a debate if he can&#8217;t speak without a script.</p>
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		<title>By: Akaroa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akaroa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t usually bother much with politics - (most &quot;politicians&quot; are just a bunch of self serving rogues and roguesses IMHO) - but I read an article about Silent T in todays Weekend Herald with great, and growing, interest. 

He&#039;s clearly quite a guy!  Smart, clever, infinitely well-qualified educationally. A proven Government minister. No wonder the mainstream Labour troglodites don&#039;t care much for him.  Tall poppy syndrome at work there methinks!!

He&#039;s a guy who has the ability to do a lot for New Zealand.   Never mind all this piffling Labour party skull-duggery and shadow boxing - the sooner Cunliffe sees the light, crosses the floor, and switches his allegience to National the better!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t usually bother much with politics &#8211; (most &#8220;politicians&#8221; are just a bunch of self serving rogues and roguesses IMHO) &#8211; but I read an article about Silent T in todays Weekend Herald with great, and growing, interest. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s clearly quite a guy!  Smart, clever, infinitely well-qualified educationally. A proven Government minister. No wonder the mainstream Labour troglodites don&#8217;t care much for him.  Tall poppy syndrome at work there methinks!!</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a guy who has the ability to do a lot for New Zealand.   Never mind all this piffling Labour party skull-duggery and shadow boxing &#8211; the sooner Cunliffe sees the light, crosses the floor, and switches his allegience to National the better!!</p>
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		<title>By: bhudson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/pundits_on_labour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1052540</link>
		<dc:creator>bhudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will be a hoot to see Shearer&#039;s preferred-PM rating. I wouldn&#039;t be too surprised to see it lift a bit on this poll - the reverse of how Bash&#039;s shotgun takeover of ACT sent their polling plummeting further. But normal service will be restored by vote time in Feb.

I think Labour will have taken a hit as a result of the mess. A bit to go to the Greens and a bit to National. (if they have caught a chunk of Cunliffe supporters, the Greens will lift by more than National.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be a hoot to see Shearer&#8217;s preferred-PM rating. I wouldn&#8217;t be too surprised to see it lift a bit on this poll &#8211; the reverse of how Bash&#8217;s shotgun takeover of ACT sent their polling plummeting further. But normal service will be restored by vote time in Feb.</p>
<p>I think Labour will have taken a hit as a result of the mess. A bit to go to the Greens and a bit to National. (if they have caught a chunk of Cunliffe supporters, the Greens will lift by more than National.)</p>
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		<title>By: Key is our man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Key is our man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If anybdoy is dreaming that all these will dent Labour-Green popularity and their chances of winning 2014 election - stop dreaming. Wait for the next political poll to come out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anybdoy is dreaming that all these will dent Labour-Green popularity and their chances of winning 2014 election &#8211; stop dreaming. Wait for the next political poll to come out.</p>
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		<title>By: iMP</title>
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		<dc:creator>iMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 03:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To which we can add the colourful punditry somewhat in keeping with DPF&#039;s &quot;He’d be impotent in Parliament while he has to fight a rearguard action,&quot; with   &quot;will flush Labour’s gains away as it applies an enema to itself over Christmas and in to February.  The Greens must be rubbing their rubber gloves with glee.&quot;

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/labours-woefulness/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To which we can add the colourful punditry somewhat in keeping with DPF&#8217;s &#8220;He’d be impotent in Parliament while he has to fight a rearguard action,&#8221; with   &#8220;will flush Labour’s gains away as it applies an enema to itself over Christmas and in to February.  The Greens must be rubbing their rubber gloves with glee.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/labours-woefulness/" rel="nofollow">http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/labours-woefulness/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 03:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silent T will win in February and will go on to lead the socialists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silent T will win in February and will go on to lead the socialists.</p>
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