Maybe they just got upset with the usual string of lies DPF repeats on this topic.

Best you list these lies that DPF apparently tells, then. And leave out the usual leftist crap that is recited by the Helen Kellys and wannabe actors of this world – stick to facts you can support. After all, that’s what DPF has done!

But please respond during your breaks – we need to try and lift productivity in the public sector.

Hamfisted:

Peter Jackson is a traitor and should be put on trial for worker-treason, animal cruelty and tax avoidance.
I hope it pisses down with rain and razor blades tomorrow as a strong cold Southerly blows his supporters into the harbour.
Jackson should move to Hollywood as a Key lobbyist and never return to our shores.

ross69:

So if Labour spends billions on building new houses, it’s not actually taking any money from you. You must be in favour of Labour’s housing policy…

Dean Papa:

lol, poor DPF, what an obsessive little tubby man he is, still working himself up into a lather other this. But I’m struggling to see how these three MPs are hypocrites.

On a brighter note, Rightnow made a valid observation in relation to ross69 (10.29pm 27 Nov): You are so fucking stupid I have to believe you must actually be a Labour MP.

Have to agree with Rightnow… surely these morons (Hamfisted / Dean Papa / ross69) cannot really be that thick. Surely not? It must be an act. Oh shit… It isn’t???

The poor buggers.

Labour’s housing policy is to build the houses and then sell them to recover the cost – so the bill to taxpayers is zero.

from SPC and he has the gall to to tell others that they shouldn’t comment when tired.

As for your problems – basically a lot of hot air signifying little

1. It would probably cost government organising the building of 100,000 houses less per house than it would private developers developing them.
2. yes money is invested up front before the property is sold later. The loan cost is part of the cost of the project passed on in the sale price (as it would be for any other developer – and they would be are looking for a profit on the investment as well, whereas the government is not)
3. the person buying the house does so with a loan from a bank – that money goes to the government who sells the house. The government’s involvement is over and they have their money. Failure to pay a mortgage to a bank has nothing to do with the money paid earlier to the seller of the house.

PS Get a warrant of fitness check. It’s not safe to post when tired.

You know, all the good stuff state-worshiping pantie wearers get moist just thinking about.

Plus, there has to be an office in every area that construction is taking place for union meetings and other activity.
How many souls will there be in this new department?

I am fairly certain all of that does not come free to the taxpayer.
Government employees are not that charitable.

Like all fashionable government activities there will be lashings of duplication, inefficiency, incompetence, ineffective management and PSA members (pick any current government activity as validation of those attributes).

I suppose all of these costs will be passed onto the new home owners in the price of the house?
How much are you wanting to sell these houses for?
Will there be any first home buyers who can afford them?

Of course, taxpayers will not be covering the salaries, cost and expenses of the army of of builders, electricians, plumbers, gas fitters, quantity surveyors, fluro-jacket-hard-hat-wearing-clipboard-carrying health & safety officers, project managers (and sundry) that are required to build a new home.

Well, probably until the houses start selling at least.
Private enterprise is not going to do it for free.
Or will they all become state employees and PSA members as well?

What happens when a home-owner defaults on their payments and a mortgagee sale does not recover the costs?
Not the poor taxpayer again?

But I guess that does not happen in Labour’s “Pixie Hollow” now does it?

Ford.

This statement so devoid of any logic I have to concur with RightNow.
You must be a Labour MP – possibly heavily inebriated or mentally retarded, therefore quite difficult to identify exactly which one.

Who is going to foot the bill for Labour’s housing policy?
The long suffering taxpayer? Or the magical money-printing pixies at the bottom of the garden?
You should ask Mr Goff. Apparently he has the pixies address.

You must have been born in Manchester and steeped in proletarian class warfare as an infant to be that bitter and ignorant. What Union do you work for or represent as a matter of interest?

Ford.

Account for keeping a job providing industry alive and well? I’ll stick my hand up for supporting that.

“So if Labour spends billions on building new houses, it’s not actually taking any money from you. You must be in favour of Labour’s housing policy…”

Duh… does the policy pay for itself? Show your working out when you answer.

You are so fucking stupid I have to believe you must actually be a Labour MP.

So if Labour spends billions on building new houses, it’s not actually taking any money from you. You must be in favour of Labour’s housing policy…

In other words, you don’t like being held to account.

Doesn’t it mean they simply pay less net tax? Given the tax generated from their employment and spending over here is an order of magnitude more than the tax break, your maths is looking very dodgy.

If the latter, the tax payer lost nothing, the government collected some tax – PAYE, ACC, GST at the very least, versus getting no incremental tax at all. Arguably it is an unwelcome dose of governmental favoritism (venture socialism?)

Is it fundamentally better to collect no tax and have resources idle or unproductive, versus collecting some tax and having the same resources producing and contributing?

Ford.

Wellington needs more trolls. han,Luc, pap dean greenjacket, et al your back stabbing foreign mates.

Congratulations for keeping it clean, when most on the left are in the sewer.

Seemingly the leave auckland, visit the hobbitown, have a free piss and go on down to Rotorua.
All the while looked after by Chinese van drivers.