Snails. And what bhudson said at 11:46

or for pumping into peoples houses directly for direct domestic use as a heating and cooking fuel(which is a lot less wasteful than burning it to drive a turbine to create electricity to send down a wire to heat an element).

True if you’re using an electric element to generate heat. Probably not true (depending on a bunch of maths) if you’re using reverse cycle / heat pumps to generate heat.

That’s because the bulk of electricity supply in the US is coal and gas has half the carbon dioxide output. In NZ a majority is Renewable (hydro and wind) with coal only a small part. Completely different energy production profile.

Of course that is only if we are burning gas to make electricity. It’s a different discussion if we’re extracting gas for export or for pumping into peoples houses directly for direct domestic use as a heating and cooking fuel(which is a lot less wasteful than burning it to drive a turbine to create electricity to send down a wire to heat an element).

The big tragedy in NZ is that we used up vast quantities of gas energy from Maui on cheap as chips flat rate ‘take or pay’ contracts to generate electricity (displacing hydro which had to be spilled from the dams at times because there was excess supply) and now we are having to search for new sources as great cost to use efficiently for consumer heating etc.

As usual we got shown up by the Nordic countries – Denmark has always had a policy of leaving most of their non renewable gas resource in the ground and drip feeding it out to the market at a rate that ensures the maximum return for the sovereign wealth fund that owns it. We just bring in the first overseas bidder we can to monetise our resource as quickly as possible and then take a paltry royalty which the government spends on Opex leaving no ongoing pool of wealth for the country.

Greens are against a successful New Zealand.

1. No-one in the Green caucus will read it cover to cover.

2. No matter what it says, they will remain opposed to fracking….for all of the reasons (and others) PaulL lists at 10.37.

It could be simplified down to one: “Ban progress”

“want a mning job that pays 100 grand a year and is in new zealand?”

dont vote greens

62.Ban NZ from military treaties which are based on the right to self defence
64.Ban new casinos
65.Allow existing casinos to be banned
66.Ban promotion of Internet gambling
79.Ban new urban highways or motorways
85.Ban programmes on TVNZ with gratuitous violence

not much of that appeals to the waitakere man

there would be shit loads more.

Maybe pick the top 20 things that would piss off the waitakere man..

In 2008 DPF gave us a list of 85 things the Greens would like to ban. It would do for a start & there’s plenty more enties to be added. Ref: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/the_greens_banned_list.html

DAM THE RIVERS ITS THE GREENEST TECHNOLOGY !

We have the technology and the support industry already. The cement and the steel are made here Its the best thing we could do for the future and it saves us money in power bills.

anyone registered thegreensbanlist.co.nz yet? facebook pages etc

we need a plan to overcome their bullshit marketing. ya know, a picture of the earth with the slogan “vote for me”. that sorta shit that seems to work with morons.

Aren’t billboards on the list?

No – they just cover messages they don’t like with stickers

If you promote incorrect data then you stoop to their level.

We’d better find ourselves a bloody big billboard. The list is at about 150 entries & growing.

How much is a billboard for a month? 10k? 100 kiwiblog dirtbags kicking in $100….