Turnbull pledges no challenge to Abbott

November 22nd, 2012 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

This video is quite amusing. Polls in Australia show that voters wants and to lead their respective parties. An audience member notes that both are successful, very wealthy, and popular (except with their colleagues) and urges them to set up their own political party. Turnbull says he is committed to the Liberals. Rudd jokes that he and Malcolm could never agree on the leadership :-)

The Australian reports:

The former Liberal leader is making it clear there will be no challenge for the leadership before the next election and that his aim is to be a senior, influential member of the Coalition cabinet should Tony Abbott win government, The Australian reports.

After months of co-operation between the former opposition leader and the man who replaced him after the party division over the carbon emissions trading scheme in 2009, a new stability and certainty is emerging within the senior Coalition ranks.

As Labor uses Mr Turnbull’s standing with voters to try to drive a wedge into the Liberals, Mr Abbott and Mr Turnbull have been in “close and regular personal contact” co-ordinating how to handle the prickly political issues of Mr Abbott’s defeat of Mr Turnbull as Liberal leader, Mr Turnbull’s continuing popular appeal, policy differences over carbon pricing and Julia Gillard’s campaign against Mr Abbott. …

There’s a lesson here for some parties in NZ.  Abbott did not get spooked by Tunrbull’s popularity and authorise a whispering campaign against him. He talked to him on a regular basis to make sure he was confident he had a key role to play going forward.

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10 Responses to “Turnbull pledges no challenge to Abbott”

  1. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    The former Liberal leader is making it clear there will be no challenge for the leadership before the next election…

    Nek minnit…

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  2. DJP6-25 (1,268 comments) says:

    It looks like they’ve got it sussed, and won’t follow Labour’s example.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  3. Tom Jackson (2,458 comments) says:

    If Turnbull is so rich, perhaps he could pay Julia Gillard for the safe return of Tony Abbott’s testicles.

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  4. tas (590 comments) says:

    I thought that it was interesting that Turnbull said “if we are fortunate enough to be returned to govt,” while the opposition in NZ generally talks about “when we are returned to govt at the next election.”

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  5. Rex Widerstrom (5,254 comments) says:

    And of course Turnbull has taken his defeat well, and acted in a very non-destructive way. But that could be because it genuinely was about policy – Turnbull supported a carbon tax, Abbott (despite playing a key role in convincing Howard to adopt it as a policy) has since resiled from his previous position and doesn’t.

    If you lose a clash of ideas you might feel upset that not enough people agreed with you, but you’ll take it less personally. If all that’s at stake is leadership of a party which has lost sight of all principle then the battle is entirely about you as a person and you cannot, unless you’re particularly Zen-like, take defeat as anything other than total personal rejection.

    In fact Turnbull has done a few of the things Cunliffe is accused of doing – like making speeches and writing articles outside of his portfolio responsibilities – but such is the grace with which he has accepted, for the moment anyway, his party’s choice of Abbott that no one in the media or the party sees them as a coded challenge to his Leader.

    Of course it helps that Turnbull (and Abbott, and even Mark Latham) were prodigious writers given to a bit of philosophising before they entered active politics, so anything written by Turnbull now is taken to be a continuation of that propensity. And that’s because they’re not the sort of people to sit about waiting to see what the latest opinion poll tells them to think.

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  6. Pundit (8 comments) says:

    Liberal part infighting in Australia leaves all New Zealand parties for dead. Turnbull was rolled by intra-party scheming; to put it down to ideas rather than ruthless use of polling data is somewhat naive. Abbot will be dispatched forthwith when the numbers dictate that his appeal to the general voter has evaporated sufficiently.

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  7. Raider580 (13 comments) says:

    Turnbull was rolled not by party scheming but by the Liberal base.Thousands of e-mails hit party HQ and federal members opposing Turnbulls capitulation to Rudds carbon tax . Turnbulls pol numbers were already in the toilet,and he was defeated by one vote. Tony Abbott wasnt in the hunt until Turnbull joined with the labor party.
    Turnbulls not that politically smart just ask Godwin Gretch.
    Only Labor people want Turnbull as leader of the Liberals.

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  8. Ed Snack (1,733 comments) says:

    Yep, under Turnbull the Libs were nowhere, under Abbott they have consistently lead the Labor party by 6-8% on 2pp for a long time.

    Another sign of Abbott’s ability is the vicious and extremely personal vilification campaign that Labor are running against him, you don’t do that against an unsuccessful leader. Of course when you have the state broadcaster completely in the tank for you it does help when spreading the personal hatred around. The ABC is practically unhinged on Abbott.

    I’m sure it doesn’t help that Abbott has certain personal qualities that the left really and truly hate in a person. He helps real people on a personal basis by volunteering with surf lifesaving, he spends some of his free time helping with outback aboriginal communities and not just as a publicity stunt, and he has a solid and loving family and home life, all things that are an absolute anathema to the modern left.

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  9. Raider580 (13 comments) says:

    Tale of two leaders
    Tony Abbott:
    Volunteer surf life saver
    Volunteer with the bush fire brigade
    Spends some of his free time in outback Aus helping Abo kids.
    Raises money for different causes through charitable rides. Including a womens refuge

    Julia Gillard:
    Set up slush fund FREE, for boyfriend so he could rip off his union people for $400,000.

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  10. ChardonnayGuy (1,131 comments) says:

    All Turnbull really needs to do is wait until the Liberals come to their senses and topple Abbott, or Abbott ends up losing the next Australian federal election because Abbott is in over his head. Abbott is essentially the beneficiary of a chain of fortuitous circumstances- Rudd’s cackhanded approach to strategic management and his Queenslander technocrat authoritarianism, and the sclerotic incumbency fatigue that overtook the Victoria, NSW and Queensland ALP State Governments. Which, notably, didn’t happen in the Australian Capital Territory election.

    I like the guy. Turnbull shares many attributes with John Key. As for Gillard, I don’t really like her all that much, but the mad monk is worse. Only just.

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