Australian excitement

December 10th, 2012 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

7 News reported:

A record number of New Zealanders are arriving in , and thousands are doing it thanks to cash handouts from their own Government.

Umm, not thousands. Six people.

The outrageous unemployment policy is turning Australia into a dumping ground for the out-of-work Kiwis.

Yes those six extra Kiwis last year have grown the Australian population by 0.000027%. How will they cope.

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22 Responses to “Australian excitement”

  1. Brad (75 comments) says:

    *at least 20 people, and that’s only from 2007 and 2011. But unlikely to be anywhere near ‘thousands’

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  2. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    It was a lot more than six..The full figures over a number of years were not even given.

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  3. CodyHM (13 comments) says:

    Just on this -

    “The outrageous unemployment policy is turning Australia into a dumping ground for the out-of-work Kiwis”

    I thought the Government payments were for them to move to Australia to get jobs there?

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  4. RightNow (6,655 comments) says:

    Perhaps you could start a ‘tip jar’ DPF, so we can chip in to send a few more over.

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  5. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    So now we’re going to have Aussie politicians trying to restrict NZers work rights and visa-free immigration rights. Thanks a lot Ardern!

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  6. Raphael (73 comments) says:

    @RightNow I would happily chip in a few dollars to give Wussel a one way ticket back to Australia.

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  7. MT_Tinman (2,989 comments) says:

    Raphael (28) Says:
    December 10th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
    @RightNow I would happily chip in a few dollars to give Wussel a one way ticket back to Australia.

    I’ll help but only if the bastard walks.

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  8. aspbr049 (2 comments) says:

    @DPF I’d stay out of blooging on factual innacurracies/blatant lies in Australian media (esp. Today Tonight and A Current Affair). There aren’t enough hours in the day to do that.

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  9. RightNow (6,655 comments) says:

    Raphael

    +1

    MT_Tinman

    +2

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  10. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,793 comments) says:

    Well bugger me!

    So six (or was it twenty?) New Zealanders arrived in Australia to do the jobs the Ockers won’t do.

    Menial, dirty work like coaching the Wallabies.

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  11. Rex Widerstrom (5,258 comments) says:

    @joana

    There were thousands who arrived each year, yes, but not thousands who did so as a result of “cash handouts from their government”.

    The Australian journalists conflated “arrivals of NZers in Australia” with “arrivals of recipients of Transition to Work grants”. Whether out of malice or sheer ignorance I don’t know. Both, I suspect.

    I know English education over here stops as soon as they learn how to write XXXX so they can order a beer, but I’d have thought maths might at least go up to six, if only so they can make sure the six pack they asked for contains the right number of bottles.

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  12. bringbackdemocracy (393 comments) says:

    Did they arrive in convict ships like the locals?

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  13. Paul Williams (876 comments) says:

    More PTL departures than ever David, this despite the promise to ‘Wave Goodbye to Higher Taxes, Not Your Loved Ones’. I personally know of six kiwis who’re relocating next year, four in Jan (note that two are children) and two more in March (of the prime working age type I’ll add).

    This is a serious issue and yet there’s no serious response. The NZ tax base is shrinking at the same time as the population ages. This translates into a major medium-term fiscal risk. National won’t even raise the retirement age and is weakening the already weak super scheme.

    I’d love to return to NZ to see my friends and family more often, the way things are going though, they’re coming here.

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  14. BigFish (132 comments) says:

    There’s nothing less impressive than commercial Australian TV, news or current events programmes. Completely surreal to watch.
    Amazingly bad, biased, sensational and nonsensical journalism.
    Can almost guarantee our media will follow suit, they’ve already started on the path – at least the Australian’s still have the ABC.

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  15. Steve (North Shore) (4,499 comments) says:

    Does the good Dr Russel Norman have NZ Citizenship, NZ Residency, or is he an overstayer?

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  16. bc (1,334 comments) says:

    Bif Fish: “at least the Australian’s still have the ABC”

    And SBS.

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  17. Ancient Dan (39 comments) says:

    The strangest thing about the mass emmigration from New Zealand is what it is doing to the composition of the population that is left.

    Most societies, where people flee from declining economies do not have a flood of immigrants coming in the door to replace those that left.

    Mexico is not filling up with people from Asia nor in all the years that the population fled Ireland 1845 to 1995 was there a horde of anyone wanting to share Irish poverty.

    Australia accepts a large number of migrants yet Australians are not fleeing to somewhere economically better.

    So in consequence and I have heard it mentioned often there is a double whammy of the 500,000 (is it 600,00 now?) Kiwis who fled to the diaspora and the 600 000 immigrants who replaced them
    (Presumably to keep the price of houses high and maintain aggregate demand)

    The effect is to to have a dramatic change in the population greater than any other country.

    There are swathes of Auckland have none of the original inhabitants remain.

    Is there any other country where there is a mass exodus out of the front door replaced by a flood in the back door?

    If the newcomers become good citizens and are better educated and more solid workers than those who left it might all work out well.

    I trust the Dept of Immigration is a well oiled machine and is vetting those who enter really well.

    As for those who come here to Australia don’t worry the Aussies pulled a clever stroke over Aunty Helen in 2002. Those who are a burden on the state are posted back and hard workers and the well qualified are welcomed with both arms.

    To the benefit of Australia and the disbenefit of NZ

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  18. GJM (58 comments) says:

    Given they can’t get a bene in Oz for a coupel of years, they must have had jobs to go to, so the bene bashing in the ozzie press is double lie.
    It woudl be interestign to consider what NZ woudl be like if we didn’t have free emmiration ot Oz. Given that most of the ones who leave are the hard working, qualified or skilled people, usually young, IMO the NZ economy would be in a much stronger position if we had never had the visa free entry to Aussie.

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  19. Rightandleft (636 comments) says:

    There are other countries with large numbers of emmigrants and immigrants. South Africa for example has seen thousands of middle class citizens relocate to Oz, NZ and elsewhere while at the same time even larger numbers of Nigerians, Zimbabweans and others pour over their borders. New Zealand is quite unique in that most of the immigrants come not from impoverished nations to work as cheap labour but from highly developed nations that often have a higher standard of living than here. The largest immigrant group is still those from the UK. The Asian immigrants are also solidly middle class and skilled or wealthy enough to invest in NZ. NZ immigration laws make it very difficult for anyone without a high level of skill and a job offer to come here. There’s also the fact that is costs about NZ$3,000 just for the paperwork, more like $4,000 for a family due to the medical requirements. The only exceptions made are for refugees and some groups of Pacific Islanders but they are a small share of the immigrant numbers.

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  20. Viking2 (11,128 comments) says:

    Obviously we still haven’t sent enough people yet.
    We still need to raise the IQ level of the popular press so am wondering how many that will take.
    That and politics must be the last bastion of low IQ’s left in Aus.

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  21. Paulus (2,500 comments) says:

    The numbers are irrelevent – it gives the media something to stick the Government with – anything will do.

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  22. Ancient Dan (39 comments) says:

    Many thanks Right and Left
    Information much appreciated. So theres just the problem of making them Kiwis I guess.

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