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	<title>Comments on: Collins on the Bain report</title>
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		<title>By: Elaycee</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060678</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaycee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ross69:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Binnie.... made some basic errors... &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ain&#039;t that the truth. And once these errors were pointed out to Binnie when he met with Collins in September, he subsequently provided &lt;i&gt;two, unsolicited revisions.&lt;/i&gt; 

No wonder Collins asked for a peer review:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Judith Collins says the report lacks a robustness of reasoning used to justify its conclusions.
She says the retired Canadian judge’s report appears to contain assumptions based on incorrect facts…
Since she told him she wasn’t happy, Justice Binnie has provided her with two revised versions of his report.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lacks robustness of reasoning?
Contains assumptions based on incorrect facts?

Indeed, Minister Collins revealed two such errors in Parliament yesterday afternoon - no dispute there. Apparently, there are &lt;i&gt;numerous&lt;/i&gt; more such errors.    
 
I can understand why the Bain cheer squad is getting increasingly fractious. 

Their entire claim is circling the drain......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ross69:</p>
<blockquote><p>Binnie&#8230;. made some basic errors&#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p>Ain&#8217;t that the truth. And once these errors were pointed out to Binnie when he met with Collins in September, he subsequently provided <i>two, unsolicited revisions.</i> </p>
<p>No wonder Collins asked for a peer review:</p>
<blockquote><p>Judith Collins says the report lacks a robustness of reasoning used to justify its conclusions.<br />
She says the retired Canadian judge’s report appears to contain assumptions based on incorrect facts…<br />
Since she told him she wasn’t happy, Justice Binnie has provided her with two revised versions of his report.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lacks robustness of reasoning?<br />
Contains assumptions based on incorrect facts?</p>
<p>Indeed, Minister Collins revealed two such errors in Parliament yesterday afternoon &#8211; no dispute there. Apparently, there are <i>numerous</i> more such errors.    </p>
<p>I can understand why the Bain cheer squad is getting increasingly fractious. </p>
<p>Their entire claim is circling the drain&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nostalgia-NZ</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060676</link>
		<dc:creator>Nostalgia-NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maxine:

I think it was perhaps Rex or Flipper who pointed out what &#039;extraordinary circumstances&#039; might be. I also earlier posted a link in which the QC David Fisher was quoted as what they might be. Those circumstances go right to the core of why Judith Collins lost her impartiality.

Ross:

Binnie has made no basic errors, in fact he stuck some worldy experience on Judith Collins by seeking advice on NZ Law - though I&#039;d not expect that he anticipated that our &#039;Minister&#039; would deliberately create mischief to malign him. A subject which Ms Collins seems to have shut up about now and moved onto other things told to her by the SG and his associates - those whose arses are on the line. As for Fisher we must wait and see, I&#039;ve no reason to think he&#039;ll doing anything other than a good job under pressure. Bottom line though like the PC, The Jury, and now Binnie you and your howling crows with &#039;thousands&#039; of hours&#039; of learning nothing about the case will roundly abuse him. Your &#039;crew&#039; can&#039;t even follow the evidence of a strip search or that of Anderson and Womble sadly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maxine:</p>
<p>I think it was perhaps Rex or Flipper who pointed out what &#8216;extraordinary circumstances&#8217; might be. I also earlier posted a link in which the QC David Fisher was quoted as what they might be. Those circumstances go right to the core of why Judith Collins lost her impartiality.</p>
<p>Ross:</p>
<p>Binnie has made no basic errors, in fact he stuck some worldy experience on Judith Collins by seeking advice on NZ Law &#8211; though I&#8217;d not expect that he anticipated that our &#8216;Minister&#8217; would deliberately create mischief to malign him. A subject which Ms Collins seems to have shut up about now and moved onto other things told to her by the SG and his associates &#8211; those whose arses are on the line. As for Fisher we must wait and see, I&#8217;ve no reason to think he&#8217;ll doing anything other than a good job under pressure. Bottom line though like the PC, The Jury, and now Binnie you and your howling crows with &#8216;thousands&#8217; of hours&#8217; of learning nothing about the case will roundly abuse him. Your &#8216;crew&#8217; can&#8217;t even follow the evidence of a strip search or that of Anderson and Womble sadly.</p>
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		<title>By: ross69</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060673</link>
		<dc:creator>ross69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;She can hardly consider herself or Judge Fisher as a ‘peer’ of a man with Binnie’s experience, and of whom has just been decorated with similar to a Knighthood by his country. Fisher is only a QC.&quot;

But Judith, Binnie - for all his wonderful credentials - has made some basic errors. How could someone with his nous and expertise stuff up? There&#039;s an old saying: the bigger they are, the harder they fall. I&#039;m predicting a pretty heavy fall for Binie. He has already shown that he doesn&#039;t respond well to criticism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She can hardly consider herself or Judge Fisher as a ‘peer’ of a man with Binnie’s experience, and of whom has just been decorated with similar to a Knighthood by his country. Fisher is only a QC.&#8221;</p>
<p>But Judith, Binnie &#8211; for all his wonderful credentials &#8211; has made some basic errors. How could someone with his nous and expertise stuff up? There&#8217;s an old saying: the bigger they are, the harder they fall. I&#8217;m predicting a pretty heavy fall for Binie. He has already shown that he doesn&#8217;t respond well to criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxine</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060663</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, David Bain&#039;s claim for compensation fell outside Cabinet guidelines because he was acquitted following a retrial.  Because of this, something more ( than establishing innocence on the balance of probablities,) is required that demonstrates that circumstances are extraordinary - ie they must include some feature that takes the applicant&#039;s case out of the ordinary run of cases in which appeals have been allowed. EXAMPLES of such circumstances could include strong alibi evidence, D.N.A evidence etc. It is up to a claimant ( David Bain) to show the existence of such features. I did NOT say that it is a requirement for an accused (David Bain) to provide D.N.A. evidence of his innocence. There&#039;s no twist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, David Bain&#8217;s claim for compensation fell outside Cabinet guidelines because he was acquitted following a retrial.  Because of this, something more ( than establishing innocence on the balance of probablities,) is required that demonstrates that circumstances are extraordinary &#8211; ie they must include some feature that takes the applicant&#8217;s case out of the ordinary run of cases in which appeals have been allowed. EXAMPLES of such circumstances could include strong alibi evidence, D.N.A evidence etc. It is up to a claimant ( David Bain) to show the existence of such features. I did NOT say that it is a requirement for an accused (David Bain) to provide D.N.A. evidence of his innocence. There&#8217;s no twist.</p>
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		<title>By: muggins</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060203</link>
		<dc:creator>muggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a blog on counterspin.co.nz headed &#039;The Bain killings. Whodunnit? It was written by a person who has spent hundreds ,if not thousands,of hours researching those killings.
Go take a look.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a blog on counterspin.co.nz headed &#8216;The Bain killings. Whodunnit? It was written by a person who has spent hundreds ,if not thousands,of hours researching those killings.<br />
Go take a look.</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060180</link>
		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judith...  Settle down,  deep breath and take a step back.   Bain is not worth it.    Eventually a decision will be made and one side Will not be happy.     I believe Bain is guilty but that&#039;s only my opinion after in depth discussions with those who were there at the time.    Gaining information from the so called horses mouth is more reliable than reading about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judith&#8230;  Settle down,  deep breath and take a step back.   Bain is not worth it.    Eventually a decision will be made and one side Will not be happy.     I believe Bain is guilty but that&#8217;s only my opinion after in depth discussions with those who were there at the time.    Gaining information from the so called horses mouth is more reliable than reading about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Judith</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060169</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Maxine would like to know why Judith Collin&#039;s wasn&#039;t overwhelmed, perhaps she should read Judge Binnie&#039;s press release replying to Ms Collins.  I suggest she takes particular notice of point 4 and point 6, and point out where the fairness, impartiality and balance has occured in Ms Collins actions. Collins is a disgrace, and clearly has no understanding of the word Justice.  That she is the Minister of Justice makes a mockery of her position and the party who put her there. She can hardly consider herself or Judge Fisher as a &#039;peer&#039; of a man with Binnie&#039;s experience, and of whom has just been decorated with similar to a Knighthood by his country.  Fisher is only a QC.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Ian-Binnies-full-statement-on-Judith-Collins-David-Bain/tabid/423/articleID/280085/Default.aspx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Maxine would like to know why Judith Collin&#8217;s wasn&#8217;t overwhelmed, perhaps she should read Judge Binnie&#8217;s press release replying to Ms Collins.  I suggest she takes particular notice of point 4 and point 6, and point out where the fairness, impartiality and balance has occured in Ms Collins actions. Collins is a disgrace, and clearly has no understanding of the word Justice.  That she is the Minister of Justice makes a mockery of her position and the party who put her there. She can hardly consider herself or Judge Fisher as a &#8216;peer&#8217; of a man with Binnie&#8217;s experience, and of whom has just been decorated with similar to a Knighthood by his country.  Fisher is only a QC.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Ian-Binnies-full-statement-on-Judith-Collins-David-Bain/tabid/423/articleID/280085/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.3news.co.nz/Ian-Binnies-full-statement-on-Judith-Collins-David-Bain/tabid/423/articleID/280085/Default.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maxine (8) Says: 
December 11th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Who was it: Robin or David? That question has been hotly debated for eighteen years, and will be forever more, but in spite of continued divided opinion, Joe Karam persists with his ” overwhelming evidence of David’s innocence,” and David Bain insists ” I’m innocent, it’s been proved, I wasn’t there.” Where is the proof? Where is the D.N.A, evidence? The strong alibi evidence? What is the extraordinary circumstance? WHAT IS THIS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE? WHY DID IT FAIL TO OVERWHELM JUDITH COLLINS?

Maxine when has it ever been a requirement for the accused to provide DNA evidence of his/her innocence.  Is this is a new twist on why he is guilty?  What is certain is the Privy Council was not convinced of his guilt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maxine (8) Says:<br />
December 11th, 2012 at 9:49 pm<br />
Who was it: Robin or David? That question has been hotly debated for eighteen years, and will be forever more, but in spite of continued divided opinion, Joe Karam persists with his ” overwhelming evidence of David’s innocence,” and David Bain insists ” I’m innocent, it’s been proved, I wasn’t there.” Where is the proof? Where is the D.N.A, evidence? The strong alibi evidence? What is the extraordinary circumstance? WHAT IS THIS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE? WHY DID IT FAIL TO OVERWHELM JUDITH COLLINS?</p>
<p>Maxine when has it ever been a requirement for the accused to provide DNA evidence of his/her innocence.  Is this is a new twist on why he is guilty?  What is certain is the Privy Council was not convinced of his guilt.</p>
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		<title>By: ross69</title>
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		<dc:creator>ross69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; ross69 I am simply quoting what Judith Collins said.

I am quoting her too. She&#039;s said Binnie has got his facts wrong. On that basis, do you think she will be paying Bain any compo?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; ross69 I am simply quoting what Judith Collins said.</p>
<p>I am quoting her too. She&#8217;s said Binnie has got his facts wrong. On that basis, do you think she will be paying Bain any compo?</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060101</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One doing the others and then being killed for it? Now we have 4 options.

None proven.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One doing the others and then being killed for it? Now we have 4 options.</p>
<p>None proven.</p>
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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060099</link>
		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SPC
Ha! Maybe they both did it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPC<br />
Ha! Maybe they both did it!</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060098</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where is the evidence that one or the other must have done it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the evidence that one or the other must have done it?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060094</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a great believer in looking folks in the eye and judging them from what I see.

David Bain is as guilty as a Fox with a Chicken in his mouth. Joe Karam is an obsessed weirdo.

Justice Binnie is a dickhead.

Judith Collins is seriously pissed off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a great believer in looking folks in the eye and judging them from what I see.</p>
<p>David Bain is as guilty as a Fox with a Chicken in his mouth. Joe Karam is an obsessed weirdo.</p>
<p>Justice Binnie is a dickhead.</p>
<p>Judith Collins is seriously pissed off.</p>
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		<title>By: muggins</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060092</link>
		<dc:creator>muggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As soon as I heard that Binnie had concluded that Bain was innocent on the balance of probabilities I knew that he must have made some errors and/or incorrect assumptions in his report. I knew that because I have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours researching the Bain murders since the retrial. 
Take a piece of paper and draw a line down the middle.  Write up the evidence against David Bain on the left hand side and the evidence against Robin Bain on the right hand side. You will find you will run out of space on the left hand side whereas you will have written virtually nothing on the right hand side.
Judith Collins knows there are people like me itching to read that report so that we can point out all those errors and incorrect assumptions. I said weeks ago that she should have that report peer reviewed which is exactly what she is doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as I heard that Binnie had concluded that Bain was innocent on the balance of probabilities I knew that he must have made some errors and/or incorrect assumptions in his report. I knew that because I have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours researching the Bain murders since the retrial.<br />
Take a piece of paper and draw a line down the middle.  Write up the evidence against David Bain on the left hand side and the evidence against Robin Bain on the right hand side. You will find you will run out of space on the left hand side whereas you will have written virtually nothing on the right hand side.<br />
Judith Collins knows there are people like me itching to read that report so that we can point out all those errors and incorrect assumptions. I said weeks ago that she should have that report peer reviewed which is exactly what she is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxine</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060090</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who was it: Robin or David? That question has been hotly debated for eighteen years, and will be forever more, but in spite of   continued divided opinion, Joe Karam persists with his &quot; overwhelming evidence of David&#039;s innocence,&quot; and David Bain insists &quot; I&#039;m innocent, it&#039;s been proved, I wasn&#039;t there.&quot;  Where is the proof? Where is the D.N.A, evidence? The strong alibi evidence? What is the extraordinary circumstance?  WHAT IS THIS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE? WHY DID IT FAIL TO OVERWHELM JUDITH COLLINS?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who was it: Robin or David? That question has been hotly debated for eighteen years, and will be forever more, but in spite of   continued divided opinion, Joe Karam persists with his &#8221; overwhelming evidence of David&#8217;s innocence,&#8221; and David Bain insists &#8221; I&#8217;m innocent, it&#8217;s been proved, I wasn&#8217;t there.&#8221;  Where is the proof? Where is the D.N.A, evidence? The strong alibi evidence? What is the extraordinary circumstance?  WHAT IS THIS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE? WHY DID IT FAIL TO OVERWHELM JUDITH COLLINS?</p>
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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060085</link>
		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The green and gold lasted quite a while, before a return to the red and white around 1989 or 90 was rudely interrupted by the arrival of the left footers in 1993. Keep religion out of sport, I always say!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The green and gold lasted quite a while, before a return to the red and white around 1989 or 90 was rudely interrupted by the arrival of the left footers in 1993. Keep religion out of sport, I always say!</p>
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		<title>By: Elaycee</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060082</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaycee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Johnboy: Aha - not everything has changed then.... Love it. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johnboy: Aha &#8211; not everything has changed then&#8230;. Love it. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heritage is important Elaycee. 

Mass is held every Sunday at the HOBM clubrooms after every Saturday defeat.

Jugs are still cheaper than the Bellevue! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heritage is important Elaycee. </p>
<p>Mass is held every Sunday at the HOBM clubrooms after every Saturday defeat.</p>
<p>Jugs are still cheaper than the Bellevue! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Elaycee</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060074</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaycee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[milkmilo: That&#039;s not good news at all. Bugger. 

I remember the merger between Hutt (red and white hoops / white shorts) based at the Hutt Rec and HSOB (white jersey / black shorts) based at Strand Park - and the creation of the new HOB Club (gold jersey and green shorts) based in Myrtle Street? The HOB jersey had the Ad Alta monogram that originated from HVHS.

Times change - maybe heritage is not so important these days. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>milkmilo: That&#8217;s not good news at all. Bugger. </p>
<p>I remember the merger between Hutt (red and white hoops / white shorts) based at the Hutt Rec and HSOB (white jersey / black shorts) based at Strand Park &#8211; and the creation of the new HOB Club (gold jersey and green shorts) based in Myrtle Street? The HOB jersey had the Ad Alta monogram that originated from HVHS.</p>
<p>Times change &#8211; maybe heritage is not so important these days. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Elaycee</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/collins_on_the_bain_report.html/comment-page-1#comment-1060063</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaycee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rex: Collins said of the Report (her words):
&lt;blockquote&gt;Lacks robustness of reasoning used to justify its conclusions.
Contains assumptions based on incorrect facts? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Both are damning comments that bring the integrity of the Report into question - IMO Collins has acted properly in seeking a peer review. 

Now we all have to wait and see what transpires....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rex: Collins said of the Report (her words):</p>
<blockquote><p>Lacks robustness of reasoning used to justify its conclusions.<br />
Contains assumptions based on incorrect facts? </p></blockquote>
<p>Both are damning comments that bring the integrity of the Report into question &#8211; IMO Collins has acted properly in seeking a peer review. </p>
<p>Now we all have to wait and see what transpires&#8230;.</p>
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