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		<title>By: muggins</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/dom_post_on_binnie_report.html/comment-page-2#comment-1064893</link>
		<dc:creator>muggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to one expert it is impossible to determine the time a person has been dead accurately to less than 1 to 2 hours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to one expert it is impossible to determine the time a person has been dead accurately to less than 1 to 2 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pysch Milt
&#039;Speculation doesn’t help much. According to the Crown version, the bodies had been there an hour longer than in the Bain version. How much colder that additional hour would make the bodies is speculation. According to the Bain version, Robin’s body had been there a matter of minutes longer than the others. How much colder those minutes would have made Robin’s body is speculation.&#039;
Maybe you should apply some common sense, i think the best explanation so far is the court of appeal judgement &quot;can be explained from Stephens violent struggle for survival&quot; I you can&#039;t apply common sense, why don&#039;t you try an experiment and actually lie on a zero degree floor in your undies and see how long you are still warm for, even due some physical activity to build up a sweat first, you could also try at a swimming pool by measuring the change in temparature hour by hour]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pysch Milt<br />
&#8216;Speculation doesn’t help much. According to the Crown version, the bodies had been there an hour longer than in the Bain version. How much colder that additional hour would make the bodies is speculation. According to the Bain version, Robin’s body had been there a matter of minutes longer than the others. How much colder those minutes would have made Robin’s body is speculation.&#8217;<br />
Maybe you should apply some common sense, i think the best explanation so far is the court of appeal judgement &#8220;can be explained from Stephens violent struggle for survival&#8221; I you can&#8217;t apply common sense, why don&#8217;t you try an experiment and actually lie on a zero degree floor in your undies and see how long you are still warm for, even due some physical activity to build up a sweat first, you could also try at a swimming pool by measuring the change in temparature hour by hour</p>
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		<title>By: muggins</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/dom_post_on_binnie_report.html/comment-page-2#comment-1064572</link>
		<dc:creator>muggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PaulD
Neither magazine was empty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulD<br />
Neither magazine was empty.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know Muggins, 

I believe the dog told a lot by his actions when David was around,  I know mine would attack anyone who he saw hurt any member of the family. 

but back to lunch and the basketball  ...  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know Muggins, </p>
<p>I believe the dog told a lot by his actions when David was around,  I know mine would attack anyone who he saw hurt any member of the family. </p>
<p>but back to lunch and the basketball  &#8230;  <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: muggins</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/dom_post_on_binnie_report.html/comment-page-2#comment-1064523</link>
		<dc:creator>muggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judith,
I bet the dog could have told us a thing or to,trouble is it only barked.
But hey,have you worked out yet what was being done to that goat?  Somebody reckons you can&#039;t shag a goat because the muscles round it&#039;s arse are too tight.
But what gets me is that Binnie believed that story. Perhaps shagging goats is quite a common practise in Canada. Maybe their goats have bigger arseholes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judith,<br />
I bet the dog could have told us a thing or to,trouble is it only barked.<br />
But hey,have you worked out yet what was being done to that goat?  Somebody reckons you can&#8217;t shag a goat because the muscles round it&#8217;s arse are too tight.<br />
But what gets me is that Binnie believed that story. Perhaps shagging goats is quite a common practise in Canada. Maybe their goats have bigger arseholes.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t Binnie&#039;s report say that the magazine was empty and the rounds that it had contained were all accounted for in other parts of the house? Do you know how many shots were fired or cleared as a jammed round?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Binnie&#8217;s report say that the magazine was empty and the rounds that it had contained were all accounted for in other parts of the house? Do you know how many shots were fired or cleared as a jammed round?</p>
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		<title>By: muggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>muggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Truthiz.
I have now found exactly what it was that David Bain said re his father&#039;s clothing.
&quot;On the Sunday he was wearing the tracksuit top and bottoms. On the Sunday he was wearing what I understand he was wearing when he was killed&quot;. 

Understand what he was wearing when he was killed. What a load of old cobblers. He knew what his father was wearing when he was killed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthiz.<br />
I have now found exactly what it was that David Bain said re his father&#8217;s clothing.<br />
&#8220;On the Sunday he was wearing the tracksuit top and bottoms. On the Sunday he was wearing what I understand he was wearing when he was killed&#8221;. </p>
<p>Understand what he was wearing when he was killed. What a load of old cobblers. He knew what his father was wearing when he was killed.</p>
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		<title>By: muggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>muggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kanz
Actually I do have Binnie&#039;s email address but I havn&#039;t bothered to contact him.
If I had one of the things I would have asked him was why he kept saying that ten round magazine was empty when it actually had three live rounds in it.
Had he been aware of that this thought might have occured to him.
Why would Robin Bain have changed magazines when there were still three live bullets in that magazine?
Then he might have thought- I wonder if David just put that magazine there as a prop?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kanz<br />
Actually I do have Binnie&#8217;s email address but I havn&#8217;t bothered to contact him.<br />
If I had one of the things I would have asked him was why he kept saying that ten round magazine was empty when it actually had three live rounds in it.<br />
Had he been aware of that this thought might have occured to him.<br />
Why would Robin Bain have changed magazines when there were still three live bullets in that magazine?<br />
Then he might have thought- I wonder if David just put that magazine there as a prop?</p>
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		<title>By: Truthiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 21:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pity about the 1,000, not that I&#039;m into numbers, the cheer squad, must given up due to the abundance of actual evidence instead of hearsay.


But once again I leave them with this thought,

Robin was died in the same clothes that he was wearing the night before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pity about the 1,000, not that I&#8217;m into numbers, the cheer squad, must given up due to the abundance of actual evidence instead of hearsay.</p>
<p>But once again I leave them with this thought,</p>
<p>Robin was died in the same clothes that he was wearing the night before.</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Truthiz..   12.54am

Poor old David.   He would have you believe there is an innocent explanation for his actions.    As I sit here the flying pigs are in formation approaching my bunker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthiz..   12.54am</p>
<p>Poor old David.   He would have you believe there is an innocent explanation for his actions.    As I sit here the flying pigs are in formation approaching my bunker.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shame about Davids bloody palm print on the washing machine ... 

Such a pity David washed all the killers clothing ...

Shame about the damaged glasses ...  

Such a pity, that the killer used all Davids gear ... 

Just unlucky that Robins clothing had nobody elses blood on it ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame about Davids bloody palm print on the washing machine &#8230; </p>
<p>Such a pity David washed all the killers clothing &#8230;</p>
<p>Shame about the damaged glasses &#8230;  </p>
<p>Such a pity, that the killer used all Davids gear &#8230; </p>
<p>Just unlucky that Robins clothing had nobody elses blood on it &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Judith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 people in the room, and with all the controversy for the last 18 years,  they&#039;ve never come forward to publicly declare what the situation was, but suddenly a stranger phones them and they talk, except they say nothing of value, because they weren&#039;t there all the time.  My bet is the third person won&#039;t say anything either - as an assistant to a medical practitioner, they will be bound by dr/patient confidentiality rules too. The answer will be - there is no answer, and the phone stalker will have to focus his attentions on whether the dog spoke to the neighbour&#039;s cat about that morning. I&#039;m sure the neighbour had a phone.   I must by shares in telecom, all these phonecalls!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 people in the room, and with all the controversy for the last 18 years,  they&#8217;ve never come forward to publicly declare what the situation was, but suddenly a stranger phones them and they talk, except they say nothing of value, because they weren&#8217;t there all the time.  My bet is the third person won&#8217;t say anything either &#8211; as an assistant to a medical practitioner, they will be bound by dr/patient confidentiality rules too. The answer will be &#8211; there is no answer, and the phone stalker will have to focus his attentions on whether the dog spoke to the neighbour&#8217;s cat about that morning. I&#8217;m sure the neighbour had a phone.   I must by shares in telecom, all these phonecalls!</p>
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		<title>By: ross69</title>
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		<dc:creator>ross69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh it&#039;s not too late at all. He might want to send another corrected report once he realises all the mistakes he&#039;s made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh it&#8217;s not too late at all. He might want to send another corrected report once he realises all the mistakes he&#8217;s made.</p>
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		<title>By: Kanz</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/dom_post_on_binnie_report.html/comment-page-2#comment-1064272</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ross69 (1,336) Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 10:27 pm 

But it is too late now, he has decided. I said didn&#039;t, not don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ross69 (1,336) Says:<br />
December 19th, 2012 at 10:27 pm </p>
<p>But it is too late now, he has decided. I said didn&#8217;t, not don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: ross69</title>
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		<dc:creator>ross69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; I bet David is grateful that you didn’t have contact details for Justice Binnie. 

Binnie&#039;s contact details are at the top of his report. The Justice Ministry kindly included those so the public could let him know what they think of his crap report. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I bet David is grateful that you didn’t have contact details for Justice Binnie. </p>
<p>Binnie&#8217;s contact details are at the top of his report. The Justice Ministry kindly included those so the public could let him know what they think of his crap report. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus H Christ I have been to the bloody moon and back and this tread is still going.   As previously stated Bain is guilty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus H Christ I have been to the bloody moon and back and this tread is still going.   As previously stated Bain is guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: Kanz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kanz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[muggins (383) Says:
December 19th, 2012 at 9:23 pm 

With all the people you claim to have spoken to, I bet David is grateful that you didn&#039;t have contact details for Justice Binnie. If you had, you could have told him all that you know and convinced him David was guilty.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>muggins (383) Says:<br />
December 19th, 2012 at 9:23 pm </p>
<p>With all the people you claim to have spoken to, I bet David is grateful that you didn&#8217;t have contact details for Justice Binnie. If you had, you could have told him all that you know and convinced him David was guilty&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: muggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>muggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The never ending saga of the maybe or maybe not strip-search.
I have now contacted the second police officer that was in the room,he said Bain wasn&#039;t strip-searched when he was in the room but he was out of the room for a few minutes also.
However,he says there was another person in the room who was assisting Dr Pryde,and he will check with him as to what happened.
I am not worried whether this thread reaches 1000 or not but with only 21 posts to go I reckon I might get it there on my own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The never ending saga of the maybe or maybe not strip-search.<br />
I have now contacted the second police officer that was in the room,he said Bain wasn&#8217;t strip-searched when he was in the room but he was out of the room for a few minutes also.<br />
However,he says there was another person in the room who was assisting Dr Pryde,and he will check with him as to what happened.<br />
I am not worried whether this thread reaches 1000 or not but with only 21 posts to go I reckon I might get it there on my own.</p>
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		<title>By: chiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dotcom:&lt;i&gt; We have no way of knowing whether the second jury found that David probably killed.&lt;/i&gt;

One of those jurors has publicly stated that they didn&#039;t think Bain was innocent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dotcom:<i> We have no way of knowing whether the second jury found that David probably killed.</i></p>
<p>One of those jurors has publicly stated that they didn&#8217;t think Bain was innocent.</p>
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		<title>By: Nostalgia-NZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nostalgia-NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Dotcom (16) Says: 
December 19th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Please remember people, that if the second jury found that David probably killed his family, then correctly they were obliged to return a “not guilty” verdict, because “probably” is not beyond reasonable doubt. We have no way of knowing whether the second jury found that David probably killed.&#039;

They found him not guilty on the basis of reasonable doubt. End of story. Binnie found him innocent on the BOP, no more no less. The PC ordered a retrial because he had suffered, an &#039;actual miscarriage of justice&#039; the first trial was ruled a mistrial. Nothing less, Binnie said he was looking behind the verdict because, rightly, that wasn&#039;t his job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Dotcom (16) Says:<br />
December 19th, 2012 at 11:39 am<br />
Please remember people, that if the second jury found that David probably killed his family, then correctly they were obliged to return a “not guilty” verdict, because “probably” is not beyond reasonable doubt. We have no way of knowing whether the second jury found that David probably killed.&#8217;</p>
<p>They found him not guilty on the basis of reasonable doubt. End of story. Binnie found him innocent on the BOP, no more no less. The PC ordered a retrial because he had suffered, an &#8216;actual miscarriage of justice&#8217; the first trial was ruled a mistrial. Nothing less, Binnie said he was looking behind the verdict because, rightly, that wasn&#8217;t his job.</p>
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