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The scientists at the IPCC next year have to choose whether they will admit—contrary to what complex, unverifiable computer models indicate—that the observational evidence now points toward lukewarm temperature change with no net harm.
On behalf of all those poor people whose lives are being ruined by high food and energy prices caused by the diversion of corn to biofuel and the subsidizing of renewable energy driven by carboncrats and their crony-capitalist friends, one can only hope the scientists will do so
A school teaching values, manners, how to treat a woman, and how to be a better man…
“What I want is my boys to understand is that to be a successful man is not measured by how much money you’ve got, it’s not measured by the job you’ve got, it’s measured by how the relationships you hold and how ell you treat the people you love. That’s what a successful man is.”
The BBC’s internal enquiry into the Jimmy Saville sex abuse affair basically says “we did some small wrongs but nothing really serious”.
How this outfit – who knew about his behaviour – could say this is beyond belief. Obviously the inmates are in charge of the asylum.
The BBC has been about 300% behind carbon dioxide as the one and only cause of climate change – and of course they are wrong. It was interesting to hear this week that the new Climate Science section (I think at Auckalnd University) established with money from the NZ entrepreneur of the year (2011 Bill Buckley) is finding far more guilt at the feet of clouds and cloud cover – and what causes the increase in clouds.
Almost evryday there is another fault found in the CO2 arguement, but the BBC resolutely refuses to recognise anything else.
The average combined global land and ocean surface temperature for November 2012 was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 12.9°C (60.4°F). This is the fifth warmest November since records began in 1880. Including this November, the 10 warmest Novembers have occurred in the past 12 years.
The globally-averaged land surface temperature for November 2012 was the sixth warmest November on record, at 1.13°C (2.03°F) above average. The globally-averaged ocean surface temperature was also sixth warmest on record, at 0.50°C (0.90°F) above average.
ENSO-neutral conditions continued in the eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean during November 2012. Neutral conditions are expected to last through the Northern Hemisphere winter 2012/13 and into spring 2013.
The average combined global land and ocean surface temperature for September–November 2012 was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 14.0°C (57.1°F), marking the second warmest September–November on record, behind 2005.
The globally-averaged land surface temperature for September–November 2012 was the third warmest September–November on record, at 1.03°C (1.85°F) above average. The Southern Hemisphere land temperature was record warm for the period.
The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for January–November 2012 was the eighth warmest such period on record, at 0.59°C (1.06°F) above the 20th century average.
8am this morning they had some teacher prat on (they should never be allowed to speak in public, they do nothing but harm their cause). he stated in his condescending, know it all, 50k a year voice “why would we import failed policies from two failed countries” in relation to charter schools. followed by “when we are world leading in education” haha im paraphrasing a bit but you get the idea.
how the hell do these teachers expect to get any public support? they are like petulant children trying to get their whinge in whenever they can.
maybe if didnt speak in constant soundbites, explained their positions better and werent talking down to people they may get some traction. cant see it happening though.
back to school for them, time to push around kids all day.
oh wait, its holiday time. another 6 weeks off. but teachers work harder than everyone else…
“Kea, the Nobel Peace Prize committee decided on Obama just 13 days after he commenced his presidency.”
Possibly, KK. Or maybe that was just when they announced it – having make their actual decision months before. In any event, that award to Obama made a farce of the principles of the Nobel Peace Prize. I can’t now regard the prize as meaningful.
Of course, Time Magazine’s ‘Man of the Year’ in 1938 was Adolf Hitler, do they have been known to get it wrong in the past.
Still, they knew better than to make that mistake twice. There has never been as destructive and divisive POTUS than Barrack Obama, and he still has much more damage to do in the next four years. God help America…
Pete George, “working with …” is a phrase that will not resonate with the Teacher Unions. Their objectives and attitudes are too well entrenched for co-operation to yield any positive results for the kids. Now if you were to propose paying teachers more, you might be on to something.
Visiting a client at a union HQ today (yep it scares me as well) and saw they had their xmas cards on the reception desk.
interesting things to note.
1. A card from both David Shearer and David Cunliffe, no other labour or any other MPs that i could see.
2. The office lady was quite scathing of Shearers and reckons he should not have bothered. when i had a laugh at cunliffes, she agreed it was bad, but none of the vitriol that she had for shearers.
3. Shearers card was smaller than a normal card but cunliffes was twice as big
4. both were terrible. Shearers was a picture of him hugging his wife with a xmas background (and labour logo), cheesy and bland. Cunliffes was a landscape image of a river with trees etc and his smug countenance very badly photoshopped into the bottom corner, like he was smirking at you, you could see the outline of where they had cut him out of another image. So badly done.
“Anal sex” is not a ‘newspeak’ word. Love it or loathe it, anal sex is anal sex. But thanks for mentioning anal sex yet again. It seems to be front of mind where you are concerned and I wonder why that might be.
I guess this will be one more example where we all need to be “caring”, recognise “equal rights” and look after “vulnerable members of our society”.
So if we “need” segregated prisons for transgender people, do we also need segregated prisons for gays and lesbians? New entries on forms for male, female, and transgender (I’ve already had one form this year that asked if I was male, female, or “indeterminate”). A new Ministry for Transgender Rights. Rape Crisis set up for transgenders. Special toilets, perhaps? Fitting rooms in shops for male/female/transgender.
The point I was trying to make was that we now seem to have YET ANOTHER area where people who are “different” in some way (is it okay to say that now?) are demanding their so-called “equal rights”, which will mean money being spent, and by implication, the taxpayer (that’s you and I) will of course be required to pay for it.
“And you CAN’T be a women by PRETENDING to be one! -Even children know this!”
As lesbian author and political commentator Tammy Bruce has stated:
Men with “gender problems” consider themselves to be women trapped in men’s bodies. Once they receive their “reassignment surgery” many – surprise! – identify themselves as lesbians! So, in other words, they are men who want to become women to sleep with women.
In my opinion any man who thinks simply having his penis removed, having breast implants, and taking hormones turns him into a woman needs to be in a psychiatrist’s office, not in a parade.
On Education it continues to be that the Teachers, Teachers’ Unions and their Union colleagues in the Ministry of Education have won the battle – but should be told NOT THE WAR.
I am also told that much leave is taken by Ministry staff to every teacher’s union meeting and conference, paid for by the Ministry.
The fox is still in the lair.
I am also told that the pay system prior to the current discredited one was crap, and the supplier tried for 5 years to get out of it – now sighing with relief.
There are 13 Union agreements and something like 10,000 permutations.
If an entry is incorrect the computer reads what it is given – GIGO and that is what we are seeing – incompetent inputs.
The input staff, often not very skilled at the new system, cannot handle it.
So SNAFU, and loving it, to cane the Government.
Put Collins into into it and watch the shit fly.
When will Teachers realise that education is not about their militancy, controlled by highly paid Union staff, but about the education of children, partcularly the bottom 20% – who will never become teachers anyway – so why care.
Your point was clear but it highlights a broader issue which is that we sentence people to imprisonment. We don’t sentence people to be raped and bashed when they are there and although that prospect is often regarded as quite appealing or amusing in more serious cases, it shouldn’t happen. We even have politicians who allude to the prospect. If we assert the moral authority to deprive people of their liberty, then we should keep them safe or at least be honest and include the inevitable in the sentence.
Okay, the Fed’s recent decision to boost its monetary stimulus (a.k.a. “money printing,” “quantitative easing,” or simply “QE”) by another $45 billion a month to a combined $85 billion per month demonstrates an almost complete departure from what a normal person might consider sensible.
To borrow a phrase from Joel Salatin: Folks, this ain’t normal. To this I will add …and it will end badly.
Wonder what the sentence had been if a patched gang member had done the same thing to Guy Hallwright?
Let’s change the scenario…….
‘Mongrel Mob member XXXXX – in a fit of ‘road rage’ – runs down senior Forsyth Barr analyst Guy Hallwright, and breaks both his legs.
Mr Hallwright has multiple operations since the 2010 incident.
Mongrel Mob member XXXXX is sentenced to 250 hours community work, disqualified from driving for 18 months and ordered to pay victim Guy Hallwright $20,000 reparation after a jury finds he unintentionally ran Hallwright down with his car in September 2010.”
Seems to be QUITE a different story/ sentence if you swap the patched jacket for a pin-striped suit ……?
You’re the one with the dictionary supply, so point me to the dictionary that defines “sex” as the act of inserting a penis in a vagina and explain why that definition is superior to those of the dictionaries that do not define “sex” in that way.
‘zapper’ – do YOU think John Key ‘contributed to society’ by helping to set up the derivatives market?
Do YOU think that having an unregulated derivatives market ‘contributed to society’?
Do YOu think it’s a fair question to ask – what role John Key played (if any) in the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act in November 1999 (when he was a Foreign Exchange Advisor for the New York Federal Reserve?
The effect of the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act being to leave the derivatives market without regulation?
Seems that some of those wearing the ‘pin-striped suits’ at the highest levels have caused some rather major economic mayhem?
You haven’t been around much lately. I’m worried that you might have missed the melt-down and subsequent self-imposed exile of our resident Rambo. Got a ticket for calling Michelle Obama a gorilla. Didn’t like it – hissy fit and and then *poof* (in a non-pejorative way) and he’s been gone ever since. No doubt time will heal and he’ll soon be sliding back here on his belly as if he hadn’t left.
BTW, given that he is of course not a bigot or indeed even a racist, he was no doubt referring to the fact that Michelle Obama is a 6’6″ 20 stone male with a physique like an adonis.
In answer to your questions that are completely unrelated to our discussion, yes, I do think John Key has added worth to NZ and further afield. If I was to compare what he has done to, say, YOU, well, it would be like comparing the musical careers of Stone Sour and One Direction.
Hmmm. As bad as One Direction are, at least they have had some success. Okay, it’s like comparing Stone Sour to a busker on Courtenay Place who can’t sing and collects about 25 cents a day from people who want him to shut up.
More Freedom of enterprize inspired by the Liberating Freedom of the National Party.
Even Peter’s has fought for this.
The Nats are too gutless to make it happen.
A nationwide garden centre chain that “cynically” flouts trading laws by opening for business on Good Friday every year has vowed to continue the illegal trading, despite today being hit with maximum fines.
Oderings opened five stores in Christchurch and outlets in Havelock North, Napier, Upper Hutt, Hamilton, and Palmerston North on April 6, Good Friday, this year.
Today at Christchurch District Court, a judge said there was no reason he shouldn’t impose the maximum fine of $1000 for each breach of the trading law.
Oderings director Darryn Odering today said the judges were entitled to their “outdated opinions”.
But his company believed it was “a bad law”, adding: “We will continue to open on Good Friday.”
“Who suffers? The customers don’t, our staff don’t. Nobody does. It’s simply a bad law,” Mr Odering said.
“I was working at our Barrington St centre this year and we had more than 1000 customers. We were bloody busy. If the demand wasn’t there, we wouldn’t do it.”
Someone else on another thread mentioned that the previous supplier had given years of notice to quit their contract and the launch date, after two years of delays, had to proceed or there would be no system at all. So maybe they shouldn’t have bothered with any testing at all, eh?
MORE than six decades since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls – and thousands of years after they were written – Israel has put 5,000 images of the ancient biblical artifacts online in a partnership with Google.
The digital library contains the Book of Deuteronomy, which includes the second listing of the Ten Commandments, and a portion of the first chapter of the Book of Genesis, dated to the first century BC.
SOUTH Korea has elected its first female president, with voters handing a historic victory to conservative candidate Park Geun-Hye, daughter of the country’s former military ruler.
As leader of Asia’s fourth-largest economy, Ms Park, 60, will face numerous challenges, handling a belligerent North Korea, a slowing economy and soaring welfare costs in one of the world’s most rapidly ageing societies.
Penny, I think it is quite clear what “Occupy” allege the facts are.
In another brilliant showing of respect for democracy, Penny completely ignored the G.A. rules that it must approve all funds before they are released (over $100) by usurping the last $200+ in the bank account, without G.A. approval, ostensibly with the help of “Chris Glen” who was on the finance committee and was also a bank signatory.
For an anti-corruption campaigner who rails against backroom-deals and conflicts of interest – how could she take money outside of G.A. process while simultaneously being tasked as auditor? (Transparency! Accountability!)
AND, yet ANOTHER question as to whether it is fair for someone who “claims” to be concerned about the less fortunate members of our society to picket a charity lunch that aims to raise money for a new children’s ward at Waitakere hospital, solely to make some sort of point about John Key?
Thanks nasska. Perhaps he has been busy elsewhere fighting off the knuckle-dragging communists? Perhaps he has realised, 5 years into his 20 year plan, that he would have achieved more by doing nothing, and is deep in despair?
Yeah, saw that Rodders. DPF must have been in a relaxed mood that evening……I copped 20 of the best a few weeks back for mentioning that certain members of the Green caucus hadn’t realised that Movember was over. 🙂
I have to decide whether its worth mowing the lawns , I don’t want the neighbours calling me an untidy bastard as Armmagedon happens.**
reply: this comment reminds me of the last shitty thing that happened before 22/2/11. CCC were cracking down hard on ‘untidy bastards’ whose lawns had grown above 10cms at their abandoned quake damaged homes from the 2010 Darfield earthquake. And then the Port Hills quake happened and long grass was the least of anyone’s petty troubles.
Just in case the world does end, I only cut the grass six times a year. Stretches out the life of the old lawnmower too. And less petrol. That’s life in the ‘peasant classes’ hahahaha.
I think the garden centres are wankers opening on days when the shops are meant to be shut. Total total wankers.
How many days or half days a year is it that they are required by law not to open? Is it…. fuck all?
Does the cunt want to be able to open 366/ 24 hours a day? Open on Xmas day? No… they don’t touch xmas day even though it’s the same principle as opening on Good Friday. To be consistent they should open on xmas day too. I think for Christians Easter is actually ‘bigger’ than xmas. It’s only the general populace of ignorant brainwashed commercialised fuckwits that get most worked up about xmas. Birth of Jesus vs his *resurrection*… from the ***dead***? I think the second one is probably a bit more exciting for my money.
I couldn’t give a fuck about religious holidays myself… if businesses are going to take the piss then the answer is to just get rid of the holidays and make it just another fucking business day. Because that’s what they’re doing.
They get customers… because most other places *actually close*… leaving the garden centres cornering the *nothing better to do with this day off we don’t give a fuck about* market. What are you going to do? Go to the flicks? Closed. Go to the mall? Closed. Most shops? Closed. Garden centre? Hey… open!! They’ve got a nerve man. Their customers? Can shop there on one of the other fucking 360+ trading days per year. Always a pet hate of mine.
oh sure, no problem. I don’t claim to be an expert on NZ gun laws… that’s for sure. Hey, if people want to correct my ignorance… I’ll be most grateful for the time and effort.
NZ gun laws vs US… very different and I think that’s easy enough for most levels of grey matter to get. I’m fairly certain you can’t serve a shop counter with a loaded .357 Magnum on your hip waiting to blow away some faggot lowlife robber in the LOTLWC…. hehehe
You’re not alone, hardly anybody understands how the system uses legalese to defraud people of their rights. The problem isn’t specific to NZ, it is a fundamental part of the civil system.
The primary term is “person”. The ambiguity of the term is due to the fact that it can be interpreted as a physical thing (i.e. a living man, woman, or child), or it can be interpreted as a legal term for someone or something which is bound by legislation.
Legislation does not have universal scope, its scope is limited to people who have an obligation to obey it. Legal contests involving legislation occur in courts which have a specific jurisdiction which is called jurisdiction in personam or personal jurisdiction. IOW the jurisdiction only applies to persons (i.e. people who have an obligation to the court).
Law looks to the intent, or the intangible, while people usually look to the concrete, physical aspect of things. When someone claims to be a person within a context of law, they are implying that they owe an obligation to the state, and are therefore subject to the authority of the state.
There is also a religious aspect to this. The civil system is based on Roman law, and Roman religion expresses the idea of universal application. This idea is expressed within the articles of religion of the head of state of NZ as the belief that the power of the civil magistrate extends to all men. This idea gains force by oath of allegiance – an oath is an act of religion.