General Debate 31 December 2012

December 31st, 2012 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    Happy New Year. was reminiscing about the last decade in Wellington. :
    http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2012/12/out-with-old-and-in-with-poo.html

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  2. Keeping Stock (10,432 comments) says:

    Michael Hussey’s retirement from international cricket has been lost in the outpourings over Tony Greig’s sad passing. He will leave a huge gulf in the Australian middle order, especially with the Ashes series approaching.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/no-more-mr-cricket.html

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  3. Pete George (23,683 comments) says:

    Like Colin James looking more at the bright side (amongst a plethora od political pessimists and party poopers) I’m looking towards promoting positive politics for 2013

    Last century polarity politics, where one side must defeat the other, is self defeating.

    New Zealand has heaps to offer. Positive politics will make a positive difference.

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  4. Komata (1,202 comments) says:

    PG

    The ‘positive politics’ idea is great, but how are you going to persuade the socialists that it is idealogically-acceptable to actually BE positive about our country?

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  5. Longknives (4,873 comments) says:

    Trying to find a link but The Truth’s latest front page is the greatest thing I’ve seen all year!

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  6. Manolo (14,065 comments) says:

    Wanted by the followers of the religion of peace: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/30/al-qaida-branch-in-yemen-offers-bounty-for-killing-us-ambassador-troops/

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  7. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    KS Hussey would never walk true batsmen would won’t miss him at all . He was like watching concrete set

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  8. Redbaiter (9,604 comments) says:

    “Positive politics will make a positive difference.”

    One day you will write something that doesn’t read like sanctimonious hogwash.

    That’s the day pigs pilot spaceships around the sun.

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  9. Pete George (23,683 comments) says:

    You’re repeating your cut and paste punchlines again Red. They’re becoming wet, like old fashioned bus tickets.

    Komata – I doubt you can ever persuade the political fringes of the left or the right. They will never be happy. They are perpetually grumpy, and frustrated.

    The bell curve of politics defies the extremist obsession with a great divide that their side must win to save the world. Most people are far more reasonable and closer to the centre. So you build on what’s good with and for the majority and leave the negatives to join in or remain self alienated.

    I’ve brought this up before, here and on other blogs, and some claim that politics has to be a bitter and twisted battle (of twits). I don’t buy that. There has to be robust debate but it should be rational and reasonable – and achieve something that’s doable.

    So I’d like to see the National led government actually lead more positively, and that means Key lifting his game. Being blokey is fine to an extent but people do want strong leadership, otherwise they turn to sports and media artist adulation.

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  10. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    So you would like Collins to be PM than would you Pete.
    Bosy, do as your told, I know best just like Muldoon.

    “The meek shall inherit the Earth”

    Stop accepting bullshit and start questioning the erosion of freedom and peoples right to self determination.

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  11. Fletch (6,492 comments) says:

    amongst a plethora of political pessimists

    Couldn’t help but post this :)

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  12. Colville (2,300 comments) says:

    “Liar Liar”

    The truths front page…

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/12/who-should-be-buying-truth-this-week/

    Anyone read it?

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  13. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    Thomas Jefferson said, “the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants”. Freedom is not lost unless we are not prepared to fight for it

    The Coming Fight for Freedom
    Since the 2012 US election I have seen a great deal of pessimism amongst bloggers and commentators about the prospects for individual freedom in the Western world. It seems that the re-election of Barack Obama and the left-wing political victories in France, Greece and other countries are seen as the turning of the tide against classical liberalism in favour of state control and the abrogation of individual rights.

    http://kiwiwit.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/the-coming-fight-for-freedom.html

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  14. Andrei (2,668 comments) says:

    There has to be robust debate but it should be rational and reasonable – and achieve something that’s doable.

    ROFLMAO

    One agenda item for pompous political airheads in 2013 is homosexual “marriage” – an entirely irrational thing being rammed down the throats of New Zealand with unreasonable arguments such as if you don’t agree with it you are a bigot and of course after all the political posturing and empty rhetoric homosexuals will still not be able to make babies – it is entirely undoable.

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  15. Dean Papa (784 comments) says:

    MVG throws a 9 darter!!

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  16. Rodders (1,755 comments) says:

    Good morning Andrei. Here’s a gentle Russian ditty to sooth your soul.

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  17. Pete George (23,683 comments) says:

    Viking2 – I think Judith Collins has a lot of potential as future National leader and possibly PM, but she’ll have competition. And all will have to wait until Key finishes his tenure, or the electorate finishes it for him.

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  18. Fletch (6,492 comments) says:

    V2, yeh. Obama should be charged with treason. He has just sent $1 billion in aid and 20 F-16 fighter jets to Egypt (bypassing Congress) – a country whose leader is controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood and which has sworn to wipe out Israel, a supposed ally of the United States. The MB has no love for America either.

    Key lawmakers expressing concerns about the Obama administration’s plan to send 20 F-16 fighter jets to Egypt, where new President Mohamed Morsi’s allegiances are as uncertain as his grip on power.

    Under a foreign aid deal signed in 2010, when Morsi’s U.S.-friendly predecessor Hosni Mubarak was in charge, the U.S. is giving the planes to Egypt’s air force, which already has more than 200 of the aircraft. The first four jets are to be delivered beginning Jan. 22, a source at the naval air base in Fort Worth, where the planes have been undergoing testing, told FoxNews.com. But the $213 million gift is raising questions on Capitol Hill as Morsi is under fire for trying to seize dictatorial powers and allegedly siccing thugs and rapists on protesters.

    Florida Rep.Vern Buchanan, who recently called for ending foreign aid to Egypt altogether, said the Muslim Brotherhood-backed Morsi government has been sending increasingly troubling signals to Washington, and giving it state-of-the-art fighter jets is a dangerous idea.

    “American tax dollars must not be used to aid and abet any dictatorial regime that stands with terrorists,” Buchanan said.

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  19. Manolo (14,065 comments) says:

    And all will have to wait until Key finishes his tenure, or the electorate finishes it for him.

    I’d rather see Smile and wave challenged and ousted from the leadership, otherwise your latter option is a strong possibility.

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  20. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    Ha Pete you would.
    Did ya Mummy spank ya as well?

    She lacks a clear philasophical set of principles.
    Another socilaist who will do whats covieneient rather than what is principled.

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  21. Pete George (23,683 comments) says:

    Andrei, you missed quoting this part: “I doubt you can ever persuade the political fringes of the left or the right. They will never be happy. They are perpetually grumpy, and frustrated.”

    But I think in reality the marriage amendment bill is very minor, and will be inconsequential for most of us.

    Andrei – have you got some positives to propose for 2013?

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  22. big bruv (14,149 comments) says:

    “Last century polarity politics, where one side must defeat the other, is self defeating.”

    Lol…so we should have more pollies like Peter Dunne?

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  23. Pete George (23,683 comments) says:

    bb – no, Dunne has just about done his time, we need a fresh new generation of non-partisan politicians. They could learn some positives off Dunne but in a different era we need leaders to suit the times.

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  24. Manolo (14,065 comments) says:

    …so we should have more pollies like Peter Dunne?

    Akin to asking: do you prefer to drink sulfuric acid or cyanide?
    No, definitely we do not need more prostitutes and chameleons like Dunne, a blight on the political scene.

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  25. Reid (16,633 comments) says:

    Moderately interesting, sadly not enough depth but rare insights from the real Sir Humphrey’s, the real Cabinet Secretaries from Whitehall:

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  26. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    Fletch.

    The end game is now starting to be played out and unfortunately it is not going to be possible for anyone to opt out, any more than it was possible to opt out of the same philosophical fight in the 1930s and 40s. Political demarcations are becoming more pronounced and positions more entrenched. You would have to be a very optimistic person with little sense of history to look at the current situation around the world and believe that it is not going to result in a great deal of bloodshed. If you think I am being crazy, then ask yourself why the US Department of Homeland Security (whose sole responsibility is domestic security) has recently purchased more than 1.2 billion sniper bullets. Clearly, I am not the only one who is anticipating a significant outbreak of violence in the West.

    http://kiwiwit.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/the-coming-fight-for-freedom.html

    “It was quite a scary time for us in 2008 and 2009. And the slowness of the recovery was frustrating,” he said, made worse by the Canterbury earthquake.

    But now, New Zealand was in “reasonable shape” even though growth remained sticky, in a slow recovery. “We are in a good position in a difficult world,” he said. The prospects for New Zealand were pretty good, but the engine of international growth was shifting from the Western powers to the East.

    “We are well positioned, but New Zealand does need to integrate much more with that part of the world, and it will have its challenges,” he said

    “They [Apec] have been responsible for the biggest growth and the biggest improvement in living standards the world has ever seen – why would an economist not want to be part of that?” he said. Apec has been a rallying point to improve trade and cross-border investment and help business development, flows of skilled workers, as well as education.

    “It has been the place where the big ideas have come out – sometimes in the margins of the Apec meetings when the leaders get together,” he said, for example the idea for the Trans Pacific Partnership trade group.

    Bollard admitted there were plenty of disagreements outside the economic issues between member economies, so it was a “soft power” job, not a hard power job. “You can’t go and command things,” he said.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/new-year-honours-2013/8130431/Bollards-secret-night-job-revealed

    Definning your friend or enemy.
    The USA has rapidly gone down the road of world enemy.
    Sad for the citizens but then they vote for their leaders.

    The price of freedom is eternal vigillance.

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  27. Fletch (6,492 comments) says:

    Awww, this is nice. Director J.J Abrams is giving a man dying of cancer a chance to see Abrams’ new Star Trek movie before he dies.

    For years, J.J. Abrams has been making magic happen on screen — and off.

    The filmmaker is reportedly granting a dying man’s plea to see “Star Trek Into Darkness,” which doesn’t hit theaters until May 2013.

    According to a Christmas Day Reddit post, the man, identified only as Dan, was recently diagnosed with an untreatable, aggressive cancer and has just weeks to live. Even so, the huge “Star Trek” fan summoned the energy to attend a showing of “The Hobbit” just to see the extended nine-minute promo for “Into Darkness” — only to discover it was not playing in his region. (The extended promo is limited to select theaters.)

    Writes his wife on the social media site: “We, his friends and family, the love of my life – WOULD LOVE him to be able to see the Star Trek movie but even the 10 minutes of the trailer would be AMAZING.”

    The Reddit community came to the rescue, ensuring that the post received top billing on the site and attracting the attention of Paramount and Abrams’ production company, Bad Robot. On Friday (Dec. 28), the poster submitted a follow-up with heartening news:

    “Holy cow everybody!!! I just heard from his wife that they are going to do it!! I don’t know what the path was to get there but thank you so much to everyone that tried to help!!!”

    And Dan will be seeing much more than nine minutes of “Into Darkness”: TrekMovie confirms that “some kind of ‘rough form’ of the film will be screened for the dying fan sometime soon.”

    http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2012/12/jj-abrams-grants-dying-wish-of-star-trek-fan—-again.html

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  28. Reid (16,633 comments) says:

    And to follow, the three main Whitehall offices: Treasury, FO and Home:

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  29. Fletch (6,492 comments) says:

    From FrontPageMagazine blog site – Sharia law ey? Only for when it suits them.

    Tunisia’s Islamist government, after spending weeks beating protesters, now finds itself in a complete meltdown as its foreign minister was caught having an affair and paying for it by embezzling money from the government, proving that he’s not only morally corrupt, but also ethically corrupt. And really cheap, which would be more of a virtue in a finance minister than a foreign minister.

    Since Islam was founded on nepotism, see Caliph Abu Bakr, the Tunisian foreign minister is also  the son-in-law of Tunisia’s hate-filled Islamist leader, Rashid Ghannouchi, who urged that the female blogger who exposed the affair be flogged showing his commitment to a modern secular Tunisia.

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  30. kowtow (8,770 comments) says:

    2013 will see party poofters place poo pushers on a promulgated parody of matrimony.

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  31. Manolo (14,065 comments) says:

    The usual story of blaming someone else for your own mistakes and cock-ups. Hopefully, Swan’s days are numbered:
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/tea-party-cost-us-surplus-swan/story-fn59niix-1226544792823

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  32. eszett (2,430 comments) says:

    2013 will see kowtow’s (and others) head explode because legislation will be passed that has no affect on him whatsoever, but will enable a few more fellow citizens to be happy.

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  33. big bruv (14,149 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/8131680/The-goss-mags-Richies-sexy-hook-up

    Real class from the NZ rugby team captain.

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  34. kowtow (8,770 comments) says:

    Yes eggshells it’s the state’s role to pass laws that make a tiny minority of activists “happy”.

    And as you mention citizen,I’d like to see such important matters put to the citizenry,rather than being made by a tiny cosy elite of overpaid activists in Wellington.

    Is a little bit of democracy too much to ask?

    Up yer bum .

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  35. MT_Tinman (3,257 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay (3,150) Says:
    December 31st, 2012 at 9:38 am
    KS Hussey would never walk true batsmen would

    So Gavaskar wasn’t a true batsman, Boycott wasn’t a true batsman? John Wright wasn’t a true batsman? None of the modern batsmen (no-names like Ponting, Lara, Tendulkar, Sangakkara, Yousef, Javid Miandad, the current Oz and Pom test captains etc.) with the exception, of course of the two faced Ocker ex-‘keeper were/are true batsmen?

    By christ, you really know your cricket eh.

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  36. eszett (2,430 comments) says:

    It’s certainly not the state role to discriminate against people you don’t like just so you can feel better about yourself, kowtow.
    Such important matters, kowtow? What is so important about it that it needs a referdum?

    It’s democracy at work, kowtow, name a bill that has been debated, submitted and consulted on as much this one has.

    But that’s probably a bit too much for you to understand as you seem still stuck in your anal fixation phase.

    Time to grow up, kowtow.

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  37. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Tinman

    Hussey is the only batsman have ever seen stand there when there are 70000 Aussies saying he was out and then had the termity to look pissed off when given.

    And yes, Gilchrist did bring something back to the game by walking

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  38. Redbaiter (9,604 comments) says:

    “Real class from the NZ rugby team captain.”

    Suddenly Mister Progressive turns Puritan.

    What a rank fucking hypocrite.

    And the biggest bigot on here.

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  39. eszett (2,430 comments) says:

    big bruv (10,907) Says:
    December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/8131680/The-goss-mags-Richies-sexy-hook-up

    Real class from the NZ rugby team captain.

    Couldn’t care less who Richie is shagging, but this really made me laugh:


    Emma Sayle, 34, was described as 1.83 metres tall, a colonel’s daughter, and the boss of Killing Kittens, where strictly vetted couples pay up to $300 each to attend sex parties.

    She was a church-going Christian who said she never took part in the parties herself.

    Yeah, right!

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  40. Redbaiter (9,604 comments) says:

    Oh gawd, Kiwiblog’s gayboys are here..

    So many of them snivelling away it can’t be any worse at Gaynz.

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  41. eszett (2,430 comments) says:

    And you, Red, know all about Gaynz, don’t you now?

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  42. Redbaiter (9,604 comments) says:

    Oh gee, how surprising.

    A groundless and cowardly smear.

    You see why we don’t like you eggshit?

    Not because you’re queer, but because you’re so frequently such repulsive lowlife completely bereft of any moral compass.

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  43. Pete George (23,683 comments) says:

    He repeatedly says how bad MSM is too, but also claims never to read or watch any MSM.

    There’s a pattern here.

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  44. Dean Papa (784 comments) says:

    “By christ, you really know your cricket eh.”

    Indeed. Hussey was well worth watching. More of the usual incoherent twaddle from Pauleastbay, methinks.

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  45. Andrei (2,668 comments) says:

    How’s that promoting positive politics thing going Pete George.

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  46. Pete George (23,683 comments) says:

    Good Andrei. You may notice a contrast between me making a pointed observation and someone else repeating boilerplate strings of abuse without any attempt at adding anything positive to discussions.

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  47. eszett (2,430 comments) says:

    A groundless and cowardly smear.

    Really, Red? How so?
    What exactly was the groundless, cowardly smear?

    Claiming that you know all about Gaynz? You are the one who bought it up, not me.

    Or do you think I meant that you may be gay? How would that be a smear, Red? Since you are quiet liberal, if I may use the word in connection with yourself, at calling other people gay here.

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  48. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    eszett

    You can have him for your team if you like……we’ll sign the papers & throw in a 44 gallon drum of mutton fat to clinch the deal! :)

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  49. axeman (252 comments) says:

    Meanwhile thank god for gobal warming. Or else it would be REALLY cold

    http://iceagenow.info/2012/12/russia-snow-meters-16%C2%BD-ft-deep-plows-machines-reach-roads-clear-coldest-winter-decades/

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  50. Keeping Stock (10,432 comments) says:

    Has somebody hacked Redbaiter’s Kiwiblog log-in; there seems to be some deliberate self-parodying going on…

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  51. kowtow (8,770 comments) says:

    nasskrap and the royal “we”,him and all the other kiwiblog progressive heroes.

    baying dogs.

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  52. Reid (16,633 comments) says:

    Speaking of AGW, this guy doesn’t sound very nice, does he?

    Austrian Prof: global warming deniers should be sentenced to death

    http://joannenova.com.au/2012/12/death-threats-anyone-austrian-prof-global-warming-deniers-should-be-sentenced-to-death/

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Wussell and/or Gaweth give him a call and invite him to do a speaking tour over here.

    My suggestion is that if he wants to do that to me and people who like I do on AGW then I insist on billing him and his idiot minions who really do think the climate can’t take it and it’s out of control; for all the wasted time and effort and hot air spent to date and accumulating daily which arises from their mental opinion, which I currently calculate to be 3.546956 trillion and ticking over at the same rate as the US debt clock. So unless they all want to suddenly become poor as church mice while the rest of us become very rich indeed, I suggest they just shut up about the whole thing and let it die a natural death the way leprosy did when we all got the cure for that. Otherwise just let me know where to send the invoice to, and I’ll start preparing it.

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  53. Reid (16,633 comments) says:

    You may notice a contrast between me making a pointed observation and someone else repeating boilerplate strings of abuse without any attempt at adding anything positive to discussions.

    I haven’t noticed your pointed observation(s) Pete, I’m too busy trying to think up more boilerplate strings of abuse that’s humerously abusive like schaddenfreude and that way it adds something positive and the only one who gets hurt is the big dummy who everyone laughs at.

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  54. eszett (2,430 comments) says:

    nasska (5,310) Says:
    December 31st, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    eszett

    You can have him for your team if you like……we’ll sign the papers & throw in a 44 gallon drum of mutton fat to clinch the deal! :)

    No thanks, nasska. I don’t think anyone would want Red on their team, no matter what team that is. Even Johnboy’s sheep are sheepish about the prospect.

    He was probably one of those boys who were always chosen last when creating teams. You know, even after the girls and the gays. Hence his anger with both.

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  55. big bruv (14,149 comments) says:

    Hey Red, I did not see your name in the new years honours list. One would have thought that given your ten year plus war against the left you might have been recognised.

    Of course it might have helped if you could have named one small victory….

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  56. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    More of the usual incoherent twaddle from Pauleastbay, methinks.

    It can’t have been that incoherent if you comprehended it Deano, I’m going the MSM path writing everything at the level of the lowest common denominator to make you feel included.

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  57. Manolo (14,065 comments) says:

    Bye, bye: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/31/us-venezuela-chavez-idUSBRE8BU00K20121231

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  58. kowtow (8,770 comments) says:

    bigot bruv wasn’t on the list for his services to agriculture(potatoes) and the community(church). Having the biggest chips on his shoulders to do with religion and rugby.

    Why would National put an anti leftist forward anyway,they’re soooooo progressive themselves.

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  59. wat dabney (3,809 comments) says:

    Oh gee, how surprising.

    A groundless and cowardly smear.

    You see why we don’t like you eggshit?

    Not because you’re queer, but because you’re so frequently such repulsive lowlife completely bereft of any moral compass.

    Compare and contrast:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/09/general_debate_8_september_2012.html#comment-1019344

    So the rule is that Redbaiter can post feeble, sub-Carry-On innuendo but nobody else can because that amounts to a “groundless and cowardly smear.”

    I’m glad we got that cleared up.

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  60. Dean Papa (784 comments) says:

    “I’m going the MSM path writing everything at the level of the lowest common denominator to make you feel included.”

    thanks Pauleastbay, much appreciated, and I suspect you’ll be a natural at it!

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  61. Reid (16,633 comments) says:

    Quite a good run down on the UK press barons and their influence in politics.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDAoWqj378

    One of the people it discusses is of course Lord Beaverbrook. Some may not know that Murdoch was Beaverbrook’s protege, and Beaverbrook reportedly introduced Rupert to the Rothschilds, and if you have had access to Rothschild money to finance your takeovers since the 60’s, that explains a lot about how Newscorp has come about.

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  62. mikenmild (11,719 comments) says:

    Always back to the Jews or Masons is it?

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  63. Reid (16,633 comments) says:

    No I didn’t mention them mm, when I mention Rothschild I normally mention them as a famous family everyone knows about who is reputed to be by everyone intelligent to be worth much more than that Indian who is apparently the “richest man in the world…” but whom the world press don’t talk much about, for some reason, possibly because the Rothschilds own AP and Reuters.

    But hey don’t let facts get in the way of your prejudice will you. What is it with you about Jews and Masons anyway? What do they have to do with anything?

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  64. mikenmild (11,719 comments) says:

    And there I was naively thinking that Reuters was controlled by the Thomson family and AP was cooperatively owned by a number of US news organisations. No doubt there is a hidden web of ownership in both that the well-informed can trace back to the secret rulers of the world.

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  65. Reid (16,633 comments) says:

    mm, there are secret rulers in the world and the fact you can’t see them doesn’t mean others are similarly blind.

    I’ll give you an example of a real institute that is run for the benefit of “the secret rulers in the world” if you like. It’s called SRI.

    Of course if you look it up you’ll see a standard common-or-garden research institute in this case, from Stanford. Hidden in plain sight, mm. That’s what they do. You don’t see it unless you know what you’re looking for. Like these and these which are also real and also from the very same people.

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  66. cha (4,081 comments) says:

    I’m sorry Reid but neither of you links live up to this lunacy.

    not arsenic, the gov’t has a gun that van shoot a person that will leave no ivisable holes, it shoots a frozen type bullet that melts once in the body and causes a heart attack,, they knew Andrew Breitbart had heart trouble and he was out walking when this might have occured, try to Google “Gun that the gov’t has that does this” I do not remember the site but will try to find it, a woman who worked for the gov’t said that this type of weapon does exist. he did not die of natural causes, he knew to much.

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  67. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    Top 10 Historical uses of the ‘F’ word…

    1 – “Scattered f___ing showers, my ass!” – Noah, 4314 BC

    2 – “How the f___ did you work that out?” – Pythagoras, 126 BC

    3 – “You want THAT on the f___ing ceiling?” – Michelangelo, 1566

    4 – “Where did all those f___ing Indians come from?” – Custer,1877

    5 – “It does so f___ing look like her!” – Picasso, 1926

    6 – “Where the f___ are we?” – Amelia Earhart, 1937

    7 – “Any f___ing idiot could understand that.” – Einstein, 1938

    8 – “What the f___ was that?” – Mayor Of Hiroshima, 1945

    9 – “I need this parade like I need a f___ing hole in the head!” –
    JFK,1963

    10 – “Aw c’mon. Who the f___ is going to find out?” – Bill Clinton,1997

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  68. big bruv (14,149 comments) says:

    nasska

    You forgot my particular favourite.

    “Who the f___ let the woman drive?”- Captain of the Challenger Space Shuttle

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  69. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    big bruv

    :)

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  70. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    Reid (12,702) Says:
    December 31st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    Speaking of AGW, this guy doesn’t sound very nice, does he?

    Austrian Prof: global warming deniers should be sentenced to death

    http://joannenova.com.au/2012/12/death-threats-anyone-austrian-prof-global-warming-deniers-should-be-sentenced-to-death/

    I always wondered what Griff looked like in real life & now I know ;)

    Seriously though, this shows just how fanatical these doomsday cultists are. It is also typical of left to kill those who oppose them. The motivation is the promotion of hard line socialism, not saving the planet.

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  71. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    Naaska. How the paddock lookin?

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  72. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    We caught a few drops over the past week V2. All up about 38mm which will give me another week’s respite.

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  73. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    So there is a use for the old Balckberry yet!

    http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/organised-crime-gets-smart-with-technology-20121230-2c1iy.html

    NSW’s top crime-fighting agency has admitted it is being outsmarted by criminals who use BlackBerry phones and online telephone services such as Skype to prevent their illicit conversations being taped by police.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/organised-crime-gets-smart-with-technology-20121230-2c1iy.html#ixzz2Gc4n27Ld

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  74. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    Had a good amount here in the last week. Now for the sun and you can have the rain. Might get some from this new cyclone which looks like it might sprinkle a bit over Brizzy.

    http://www.jma.go.jp/en/gms/largec.html?area=4&element=0&mode=UTC

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  75. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    V2

    That’s the direction it has to come from to do me any good. Any time the poor buggers in North Auckland & Coromandel are getting flooded out I’m generally getting useful steady rain.

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  76. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    Dear Abby,

    I have been engaged for almost a year. I am to be married next month.
    My fiancée’s mother is not only very attractive but really great and understanding. She is putting the entire wedding together and invited me to her place to go over the invitation list because it had grown a bit beyond what we had expected it to be.
    When I got to her place we reviewed the list and trimmed it down to just under a hundred…then she floored me. She said that in a month I would be a married man and that before that happened, she wanted to have sex with me.
    Then she just stood up and walked to her bedroom and on her way said that I knew where the front door was if I wanted to leave. I stood there for about five minutes and finally decided that I knew exactly how to deal with this situation. I headed straight out the front door…
    There, leaning against my car was her husband, my father-in-law to be.
    He was smiling. He explained that they just wanted to be sure I was a good kid and would be true to their little girl. I shook his hand and he congratulated me on passing their little test. Marie, should I tell my fiancée what her parents did, and that I thought their “little test” was asinine and insulting to my character?
    Or should I keep the whole thing to myself including the fact that the reason I was walking out to my car was to get a condom?

    Dirty Howi

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  77. TimG_Oz (865 comments) says:

    Look, can all of you please just shut up, I’m trying to concentrate here.

    It’s a very busy job I’m doing, controlling the world’s media and all. And making you all agree with me all the time takes an effort too.

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  78. Viking2 (11,565 comments) says:

    http://video.carsguide.com.au/2322227520/Top-crashes-of-2012?origin=newsfooter

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  79. nasska (11,804 comments) says:

    Will the retard social engineers & health nuts never learn?

    Ref: http://www.cracked.com/article_17224_5-retarded-health-campaigns-that-backfired-hilariously.html?wa_user1=3&wa_user2=News&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=yesincite

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  80. cha (4,081 comments) says:

    Russian dash cam compilation.

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  81. cha (4,081 comments) says:

    Watch out for logging trucks.

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  82. Azeraph (607 comments) says:

    Happy New Year everyone!

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  83. RF (1,452 comments) says:

    Happy New Year in less than 35 mts. There are some very interesting and decent people here and I wish you all better times for 2013.

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