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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057917</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You just keep on doing your best for your lefty masters fool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just keep on doing your best for your lefty masters fool.</p>
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		<title>By: thedavincimode</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057913</link>
		<dc:creator>thedavincimode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calm down old dear.  Express medical courier is on the way, so just make a nice cup of tea and the meds will be with you shortly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm down old dear.  Express medical courier is on the way, so just make a nice cup of tea and the meds will be with you shortly.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057911</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Um, by relative merits you may not have realised that I am praising the ‘relative’ sanity of some, but by no means all, of the Kiwiblog community &quot;

Of course, anyone who doesn&#039;t buy into the same beltway elitist opinions as you and the rest of the desk piloting shiney arsed bureaucrats is insane.

You need to do some research on the historical origins of that kind of attitude. You could start by reading Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn&#039;s &quot;The Gulag Archipelago&quot;, detailing the world of prison camps, secret police, informers, spies and interrogators that characterised Stalinist Russia. 

The text is based on the author&#039;s own experience of 11 years in labour camps and the testimony of 200 other survivors. Most were incarcerated because they were adjudicated as insane for resisting the collectivist tyranny that killed millions of Russians.

In fact it is you and your robber baron arrogant ilk and your dopey uninformed urban liberal army who are completely out of touch with real NZ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Um, by relative merits you may not have realised that I am praising the ‘relative’ sanity of some, but by no means all, of the Kiwiblog community &#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, anyone who doesn&#8217;t buy into the same beltway elitist opinions as you and the rest of the desk piloting shiney arsed bureaucrats is insane.</p>
<p>You need to do some research on the historical origins of that kind of attitude. You could start by reading Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s &#8220;The Gulag Archipelago&#8221;, detailing the world of prison camps, secret police, informers, spies and interrogators that characterised Stalinist Russia. </p>
<p>The text is based on the author&#8217;s own experience of 11 years in labour camps and the testimony of 200 other survivors. Most were incarcerated because they were adjudicated as insane for resisting the collectivist tyranny that killed millions of Russians.</p>
<p>In fact it is you and your robber baron arrogant ilk and your dopey uninformed urban liberal army who are completely out of touch with real NZ.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057909</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That wide support exists on NZ&#039;s most popular political blog.

It is a fact.

You have nothing but cowardly lies and smears, and nothing that isn&#039;t any more than the most bigoted hate filled opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wide support exists on NZ&#8217;s most popular political blog.</p>
<p>It is a fact.</p>
<p>You have nothing but cowardly lies and smears, and nothing that isn&#8217;t any more than the most bigoted hate filled opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: eszett</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057904</link>
		<dc:creator>eszett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;In fact my views have wide support, as can be demonstrated on Whale, where votes for and against give me an approval rating probably 4 or 5 times as favourable as Pete George for example.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ROFTL.

That&#039;s your &quot;wide support&quot;? On Whaleoil you get 4-5 times more than pete george likes than pete george?
How pathetically sad. 

The &quot;wide support&quot; is very much part of this fantasy of yours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In fact my views have wide support, as can be demonstrated on Whale, where votes for and against give me an approval rating probably 4 or 5 times as favourable as Pete George for example.</p></blockquote>
<p>ROFTL.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s your &#8220;wide support&#8221;? On Whaleoil you get 4-5 times more than pete george likes than pete george?<br />
How pathetically sad. </p>
<p>The &#8220;wide support&#8221; is very much part of this fantasy of yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057901</link>
		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dynastic dreams: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Michelle-Obama-for-Senate-PPP-Says-Yes-182374861.html?dr]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dynastic dreams: <a href="http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Michelle-Obama-for-Senate-PPP-Says-Yes-182374861.html?dr" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Michelle-Obama-for-Senate-PPP-Says-Yes-182374861.html?dr</a></p>
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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057898</link>
		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, by relative merits you may not have realised that I am praising the &#039;relative&#039; sanity of some, but by no means all, of the Kiwiblog community when compared to Whale&#039;s site, which I suggest would be a more logical home base for the likes of you and Redbaiter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, by relative merits you may not have realised that I am praising the &#8216;relative&#8217; sanity of some, but by no means all, of the Kiwiblog community when compared to Whale&#8217;s site, which I suggest would be a more logical home base for the likes of you and Redbaiter.</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057896</link>
		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;That tends to confirm my opinion of the relative merits of Kiwiblog and Slater-blog.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
@comrade mike: What the fuck are you doing here then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>That tends to confirm my opinion of the relative merits of Kiwiblog and Slater-blog.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>@comrade mike: What the fuck are you doing here then?</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057895</link>
		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Political-correctness gone mad: http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_22133907/seniors-decry-ban-christmas-tree-their-complex-newhall]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political-correctness gone mad: <a href="http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_22133907/seniors-decry-ban-christmas-tree-their-complex-newhall" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_22133907/seniors-decry-ban-christmas-tree-their-complex-newhall</a></p>
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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057891</link>
		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 18:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Redbaiter gets more support on the Slater-blog. That tends to confirm my opinion of the relative merits of Kiwiblog and Slater-blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Redbaiter gets more support on the Slater-blog. That tends to confirm my opinion of the relative merits of Kiwiblog and Slater-blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057885</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;the sheer and outright irrelevance of your bizarre worldview.&quot;

Don&#039;t you sad commie robots ever get tired of the same old propaganda?

In fact my views have wide support, as can be demonstrated on Whale, where votes for and against give me an approval rating probably 4 or 5 times as favourable as Pete George for example.

And probably as the most favourable commenter over all.

You&#039;re just a cowardly liar, with no proof for your constant smears and baseless assertions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the sheer and outright irrelevance of your bizarre worldview.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you sad commie robots ever get tired of the same old propaganda?</p>
<p>In fact my views have wide support, as can be demonstrated on Whale, where votes for and against give me an approval rating probably 4 or 5 times as favourable as Pete George for example.</p>
<p>And probably as the most favourable commenter over all.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re just a cowardly liar, with no proof for your constant smears and baseless assertions.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057884</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68985#comment-1057884</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Who is in charge of subverting the governments of the world ? &quot;

Sad lamer. 

Leaving aside the pitifully infantile phrasing of the question, the UN is behind much of the leftist nonsense that prevails in the west, along with organisations like Socialist International, a club that most left wing politicians (including most NZ left wing politicians) belong to and the means by which they co-ordinate global strategy to bring down capitalism.

Here is their home page-

http://www.socialistinternational.org/

Here is a list of countries where their members are holding power-

http://www.socialistinternational.org/images/dynamicImages/files/Member_Parties_in_Govt%20Dec12.pdf

Helen Klark was/ is prominent in SI, and has now moved on to the UN. Anyone who claims there is no left wing globally co-ordinated political strategy is just another head in the sand denier of reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Who is in charge of subverting the governments of the world ? &#8221;</p>
<p>Sad lamer. </p>
<p>Leaving aside the pitifully infantile phrasing of the question, the UN is behind much of the leftist nonsense that prevails in the west, along with organisations like Socialist International, a club that most left wing politicians (including most NZ left wing politicians) belong to and the means by which they co-ordinate global strategy to bring down capitalism.</p>
<p>Here is their home page-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socialistinternational.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialistinternational.org/</a></p>
<p>Here is a list of countries where their members are holding power-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socialistinternational.org/images/dynamicImages/files/Member_Parties_in_Govt%20Dec12.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialistinternational.org/images/dynamicImages/files/Member_Parties_in_Govt%20Dec12.pdf</a></p>
<p>Helen Klark was/ is prominent in SI, and has now moved on to the UN. Anyone who claims there is no left wing globally co-ordinated political strategy is just another head in the sand denier of reality.</p>
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		<title>By: eszett</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057882</link>
		<dc:creator>eszett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 11:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you mean your very own impotence, red, or more precisely, the sheer and outright irrelevance of your bizarre worldview.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you mean your very own impotence, red, or more precisely, the sheer and outright irrelevance of your bizarre worldview.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057879</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 11:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;That way he is never wrong..&quot;

Ha ha that&#039;s funny.

Here are you and your National Party mates about to hand the country over to the Communist Coalition and you&#039;re telling me you&#039;re doing it right??

FFS, anyone with even half a brain would have to question why the country keeps sliding to the left, and understand that the main reason it is happening is the impotence of the National Party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That way he is never wrong..&#8221;</p>
<p>Ha ha that&#8217;s funny.</p>
<p>Here are you and your National Party mates about to hand the country over to the Communist Coalition and you&#8217;re telling me you&#8217;re doing it right??</p>
<p>FFS, anyone with even half a brain would have to question why the country keeps sliding to the left, and understand that the main reason it is happening is the impotence of the National Party.</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057878</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 11:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The median wage is $20 an hour, the average wage $25 an hour

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10852254]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The median wage is $20 an hour, the average wage $25 an hour</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&#038;objectid=10852254" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&#038;objectid=10852254</a></p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057877</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beryl you know I can not give names that would not be fair
Except maybe denominations that would be ok 
That&#039;s the Anglican priest and  Pentecostal &quot;pastors?&quot; daughters  in the area Plus the  daughter of quite a well-known missionary. :wink: And her J W mate.

Let me guess you were playing rugby

Running around on a field chasing a bladder in a cover.

In some ancient ritual that involves a scrum where you all get down and sniff arses.

Then showering with the boys down the club.

Followed by a huge piss up

The pinnacle of human achievement that is

Playing the ancient game of thugby :grin:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beryl you know I can not give names that would not be fair<br />
Except maybe denominations that would be ok<br />
That&#8217;s the Anglican priest and  Pentecostal &#8220;pastors?&#8221; daughters  in the area Plus the  daughter of quite a well-known missionary. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' />  And her J W mate.</p>
<p>Let me guess you were playing rugby</p>
<p>Running around on a field chasing a bladder in a cover.</p>
<p>In some ancient ritual that involves a scrum where you all get down and sniff arses.</p>
<p>Then showering with the boys down the club.</p>
<p>Followed by a huge piss up</p>
<p>The pinnacle of human achievement that is</p>
<p>Playing the ancient game of thugby <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057874</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=68985#comment-1057874</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Incoherent ramblings of rage, Red.&quot;

Its another indication of your crippled liberal political perspectives that you perceive my direct mode of address as an expression of rage.

Break out of the PC padded cell for fuck&#039;s sake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Incoherent ramblings of rage, Red.&#8221;</p>
<p>Its another indication of your crippled liberal political perspectives that you perceive my direct mode of address as an expression of rage.</p>
<p>Break out of the PC padded cell for fuck&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: bhudson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057873</link>
		<dc:creator>bhudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CG,

Red never debases himself to read such filthy subversive lefty communist propaganda feeds.

No. He contents himself to read those bastions of conservative wisdom; the founts of like-minded wisdom that prove that all that is good in the world is all that this is not what his opponents think.

He listens to what he wants to hear.

That way he is never wrong..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CG,</p>
<p>Red never debases himself to read such filthy subversive lefty communist propaganda feeds.</p>
<p>No. He contents himself to read those bastions of conservative wisdom; the founts of like-minded wisdom that prove that all that is good in the world is all that this is not what his opponents think.</p>
<p>He listens to what he wants to hear.</p>
<p>That way he is never wrong..</p>
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		<title>By: calendar girl</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057872</link>
		<dc:creator>calendar girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Incoherent ramblings of rage, Red. Epitomises why you spend your time conversing with yourself. What a waste.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incoherent ramblings of rage, Red. Epitomises why you spend your time conversing with yourself. What a waste.</p>
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		<title>By: bhudson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/general_debate_6_december_2012.html/comment-page-1#comment-1057871</link>
		<dc:creator>bhudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@SPC,

Headline[yours]: We haven&#039;t sold enough, so let&#039;s borrow and give everyone some more money.

The only thing those results and news headline prove is that we have to sell more of our goods. Any form of welfare handout or other govt spending works counter to that effect.]]></description>
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<p>Headline[yours]: We haven&#8217;t sold enough, so let&#8217;s borrow and give everyone some more money.</p>
<p>The only thing those results and news headline prove is that we have to sell more of our goods. Any form of welfare handout or other govt spending works counter to that effect.</p>
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