Greens reject fracking report even though a Green candidate was team leader

December 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

NBR (paywall) reports:

Quentin Duthie was project leader for the team which put together the report on , released by the commissioner on Tuesday.

Mr Duthie was a Green Party candidate in 2005 and 2008 and has also worked as a parliamentary staffer for the party. More recently he has been a conservation advocate for Forest and Bird. …

Mineral industry groups welcomed the report but the Green Party, with MP Gareth Hughes calling it “half-baked”, condemned it, saying there should be a moratorium on fracking.

This just demonstrates that the parliamentary wing are putting politics ahead of the environment.  They demanded this inquiry, and then rejected out of hand the main conclusion that there is no evidence to justify a moratorium (a Orwellian term for a ban).

People need to understand that many many people in political life care about the environment and conservation. The Greens political party pushes an extreme version of environmentalism which is basically opposition to any activity that impacts the environment in any way.

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25 Responses to “Greens reject fracking report even though a Green candidate was team leader”

  1. wreck1080 (3,842 comments) says:

    unfortunately a greens government is looking more likely.

    I don’t get their opposition to fracking when it is overwhelmingly looking like a great thing.

    I guess Greens just don’t like progress. I suspect the greens are simply conspiracy theorists.

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  2. RRM (9,735 comments) says:

    unfortunately a greens government is looking more likely.

    Really??

    They need Labour to win, and the only reason Labour are going up in the polls right now, is that it’s been over a year since the Labour Party were last out campaigning and making themselves look out of touch.

    Look at the current Labour team. Can you think of ANY reason why, when they start campaigning for 2014, it won’t be a re-run of 2011 with people asking themselves “WTF is wrong with these idiots?”

    (Disclosure: RRM has party voted for the Greens, although that doesn’t necessarily mean I agree with every one of their policies, I just like having them around as an opposition party :-P )

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  3. Peter (1,682 comments) says:

    Finding it hard to care what the Greens think.

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  4. Cunningham (836 comments) says:

    The Greens think they have a monopoly on the environment and that everyone else is wrong. They are so hellbent on their agenda that they would push forward regardless of the impact on the economy. DPF is right, just because other parties do not agree with the Greens extreme solutions doesn’t mean they are anti the environment. Just means they are realistic.

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  5. RF (1,363 comments) says:

    Dear God. Why do the Greens insist on scaring the horses. If they took a more measured softly softly approach their views may be more acceptable to the swinging voter. Hughes is turning into a me me me. Little man complex.

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  6. david (2,562 comments) says:

    So RRM, are you suggesting that if the Greens look like they will get a sniff-in, the voters will flee like startled rabbits on the grounds that “they might be OK as neighbours but you wouldn’t want them living with you”?

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  7. Rich Prick (1,637 comments) says:

    The “science” is only settled when it says what the Greens want it to say.

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  8. Redbaiter (8,211 comments) says:

    The so called Greens are not environmentalists, they are communists pretending to be environmentalists.

    Their subversive, scaremongering and untruthful campaign against fraccing is just a subset of their overall opposition to the use of energy.

    Gareth Hughes is in my humble opinion a despicable liar and coward, traipsing around the countryside attacking the petroleum industry with propaganda and innuendo. (sorry DPF, I know you don’t like me talking of Hughes in this manner, but the truth is his whole campaign is bereft of any real technical facts- and worse, Hughes knows it himself.)

    It demonstrates how far this country has fallen when we have people who care so little about truth sitting in parliament house.

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  9. alex Masterley (1,504 comments) says:

    And you are surprised that the Greens reject the fracking report?

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  10. RRM (9,735 comments) says:

    david – I have absolutely no idea what is going through other voters’ minds!

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  11. Cunningham (836 comments) says:

    Wait until Shearer goes head to head in an election campaign with JK and then you can say if the Greens will get in. The polls are a good thing if it leads to Shearer staying in the position he is. The Labour supporters can see the trainwreck that will occur when JK and Shearer go head to head in a televised debate hence why they want to get rid of him. It will make Goffs mauling look like a great performance by a Labour leader.

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  12. Pete George (23,413 comments) says:

    david – I think there could be quite a few people who are happy to have a Green presence in parliament but would be very wary of them having much say in Government, especially with anything to do with the economy. I’m another one.

    Redbaiter may be expressing an extreme take on it but to an extent I agree, quite a bit of the Green motive seems to be barely disguised socialism.

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  13. sbk (311 comments) says:

    uncompromising…even when the Science or verdict is against..yep the “perfect attitude” for a coalition partner(a dance with the devil)…should ensure for a smooth 3 years..not.

    enough to scare me off centre.

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  14. andyscrase (89 comments) says:

    One of the great prophets of the Global Warming religion, Michael Mann, has stated he is in favour of Shale gas as a way of reducing CO2 emissions (in fact US emissions are down to 1990 levels, without any Kyoto Protocol, with the aid of a bit of shale gas plus recession)

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  15. Reid (16,169 comments) says:

    The Gweens represent the personification of the lefty train of thought. Their monstrous self-righteousness that they and they alone always have ethics on their side, makes them literally sneer at any suggestions to the contrary. This is typical superciliousness from Gaweth.

    http://www.sunlive.co.nz/assets/images/site/gareth_hughes.jpg

    Such ignorant arrogance normally exists only in the minds of spoilt, petulant ten-year-olds but amazingly, full grown Gween adults possess the exact same trait and apparently, thought-processes. Just like real spoilt, petulant ten-year-olds, Gweens fantasize about what would make it be like Disneyland and proceed to ignore adult realities like recognition of legitimate competing interests and the need to weigh and balance. No the Gweens are above all of that, they’re so tremendous, just like any spoilt, petulant ten-year-old thinks.

    It’s a frightening reality that in this like all democracies, there are a segment of people who can’t see this and instead take them seriously. Of course if and when the Gweens do get their hands on the levers, the upshot on this segment will be horrendous and they’ll never vote for them again, but it seems a pity all of that has to happen to everyone, before finally the terrible madness is exposed to all and sundry.

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  16. andyscrase (89 comments) says:

    Reid – the problem is that this ideology is now mainstream – witness the “greenest government ever” in the UK that seems intent on economic suicide (the power stations start shutting down next year, I believe)

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  17. Elaycee (4,346 comments) says:

    Anyone who wonders about the ‘credentials’ of the Gweens leadership, consider this:

    One of the co-leaders:

    Between 1989–1991, Metiria was a founding member of the Random Trollops performance art troupe. She was a candidate for the McGillicuddy Serious Party in the 1993 election and for the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party in the 1996 election. She joined the Green Party in 2002 and was elected as co-leader at the Green Party AGM on 30 May 2009.

    And the other:

    Russel Norman was born in Brisbane, Australia and moved to New Zealand in 1997 to observe the red-green Alliance coalition. He wrote his political science PhD thesis on the Alliance and was active within the party editing its party newsletter. Whilst living in Australia, Norman was involved with the Socialist Workers’ Party for several years.

    Yup… this is the leadership of a Party that would have us believe they’re fit to sit on the Government benches. :(

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  18. Reid (16,169 comments) says:

    Reid – the problem is that this ideology is now mainstream – witness the “greenest government ever” in the UK that seems intent on economic suicide (the power stations start shutting down next year, I believe)

    It’s using the Tavistock AGW meme andy to build on the general environment theme, that’s why it’s out of control. It’s like the pressure gauge on the boiler is hard against the red and it’s bending itself past the stop, while the boiler is visibly bulging with unleashed fury.

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  19. Martin Gibson (234 comments) says:

    Aside from their obsession with establishing a command economy in New Zealand with mass income redistribution and the government picking winners, my concern about the Greens is that they territorially piss on environmentalism so much that people get a Pavlovian aversion to it.

    Restoring our ecology is a road New Zealand must go down, but the insect-eyed Greens like Hughes have laid claim to it and mostly figuratively use to it to erect billboards to promote the same old useful idiocy for world communism rather than work out how we might travel down it together.

    The answer to this is for us “Right wing hippies” to get more active in environmentalism, and start our own initiatives so we don’t need to be around the people you normally meet in those groups already established — big on airy talk, small on concrete achievement in my experience.

    Yup Reid, most of it is Tavistock 101.

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  20. andyscrase (89 comments) says:

    I do recommend Patrick Moore’s “Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout” as a good read

    Although he spends a fair bit of the book describing how environmental issues were hijacked by the far left, he also has a lot of practical remedies for building a society that respects both the environment and the humans living in it.

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  21. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    The Luddites hate the idea of development and progress. Destructive communists they are.

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  22. RF (1,363 comments) says:

    Elaycee.. 2.25pm.

    Jesus H Christ. That’s really put me off my tea. I just gulped down several straight scotches.

    Those two pricks are not fit to be our leaders. The surviving japs on Iwo Jima had the perfect solution when faced with capture. Something we should consider if those pricks get in.

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  23. graham (2,306 comments) says:

    Elaycee at 2:25 – that’s unbelievable.

    Metiria was a founding member of the Random Trollops performance art troupe, a candidate for the freaking McGillicuddy Serious Party and then party-hopped to the more serious (?) Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party.

    How the hell did she convince people that this experience would be an asset if she was elected co-leader of the Greens?

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  24. V (704 comments) says:

    @Redbaiter

    The hypocrisy of pimpley faced GH galivanting around the country in petroleum fueled dinghys, cars, helicopters and aircraft is infuriating. That man probably has one of the biggest carbon footprints of any sitting MP (aside from Jonathan Hunts taxi rides) and has the audacity to lecture the rest of us for getting to work to pay for his lifestyle.

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  25. Paulus (2,580 comments) says:

    Remember that Greenpeace New Zealand branch is made up not only New Zealanders, but those from other countries who have chosen to live here where they can insist that their opinions are the only right ones, and they would have got nowhere in their former countries. Great MMP as they can use this to get their views across.
    The currently are made up of middle class, white or mostly part, well educated, financially secure, latte drinking skimmed milk only zealots.
    Labour cannot hold a candle to them, being ill educated, class driven, unionists and biased teachers.

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