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	<title>Comments on: Supreme Court agrees to hear Maori Council appeal</title>
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		<title>By: bhudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>bhudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;R E Jones, Mr or Mrs Nooki, does draw water, and have influence. You do NOT.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bob Jones - a businessman, boxing aficionado and columnist raconteur - knows more, and has more influence, in matters of law and legal process, than Nookin - lawyer.

It&#039;s not flipper - it&#039;s flipped]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>R E Jones, Mr or Mrs Nooki, does draw water, and have influence. You do NOT.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bob Jones &#8211; a businessman, boxing aficionado and columnist raconteur &#8211; knows more, and has more influence, in matters of law and legal process, than Nookin &#8211; lawyer.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not flipper &#8211; it&#8217;s flipped</p>
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		<title>By: Nookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flipper

I really am afraid you have completely flipped your lid. I am not campaigning for anyone. I am not trying to re-litigate anything. I have a pretty good understanding the PC decision and have not misrepresented it anywhere. You are on the wrong thread in so many different ways. Take your bile elsewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flipper</p>
<p>I really am afraid you have completely flipped your lid. I am not campaigning for anyone. I am not trying to re-litigate anything. I have a pretty good understanding the PC decision and have not misrepresented it anywhere. You are on the wrong thread in so many different ways. Take your bile elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Nostalgia-NZ</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/supreme_court_agrees_to_hear_maori_council_appeal.html/comment-page-1#comment-1063707</link>
		<dc:creator>Nostalgia-NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 07:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PaulL

Yes.

But &#039;step by step&#039; is the pragmatic route and not one of over confidence.

Earlier post should have said &#039;if they do not uphold the sales.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulL</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>But &#8216;step by step&#8217; is the pragmatic route and not one of over confidence.</p>
<p>Earlier post should have said &#8216;if they do not uphold the sales.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 07:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nostalgia - no use having one up the sleeve if you&#039;re the crown.  They know it will go to Supreme Court anyway - if they lose they&#039;ll send it there themselves, if they win it will get appealed.  No point in wasting the time of the lower court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nostalgia &#8211; no use having one up the sleeve if you&#8217;re the crown.  They know it will go to Supreme Court anyway &#8211; if they lose they&#8217;ll send it there themselves, if they win it will get appealed.  No point in wasting the time of the lower court.</p>
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		<title>By: Nostalgia-NZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nostalgia-NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 07:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;It is good that the Supreme Court granted leave to bypass the Court of Appeal. This means that if they do not uphold the appeal, the the partial sales can proceed on time.&#039;

And if they do uphold the sales the Crown have no higher Appeal.
On a pragmatic basis of having the opportunity to have another bite at the cherry if the case is lost: better to have one up the sleeve than none.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;It is good that the Supreme Court granted leave to bypass the Court of Appeal. This means that if they do not uphold the appeal, the the partial sales can proceed on time.&#8217;</p>
<p>And if they do uphold the sales the Crown have no higher Appeal.<br />
On a pragmatic basis of having the opportunity to have another bite at the cherry if the case is lost: better to have one up the sleeve than none.</p>
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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feel free to vote for a different government that will apply your view of how the courts should be run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel free to vote for a different government that will apply your view of how the courts should be run.</p>
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		<title>By: bringbackdemocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/supreme_court_agrees_to_hear_maori_council_appeal.html/comment-page-1#comment-1063667</link>
		<dc:creator>bringbackdemocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VEXATIOUS= not having sufficient grounds for action and seeking only to annoy the defendant.

If we didn&#039;t have a spineless government they would be seeking to recover costs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VEXATIOUS= not having sufficient grounds for action and seeking only to annoy the defendant.</p>
<p>If we didn&#8217;t have a spineless government they would be seeking to recover costs.</p>
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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you know what a vexatious litigant is?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know what a vexatious litigant is?</p>
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		<title>By: bringbackdemocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bringbackdemocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would they here a &quot;vexatious litigant&quot; ???????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would they here a &#8220;vexatious litigant&#8221; ???????</p>
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		<title>By: tvb</title>
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		<dc:creator>tvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By passing the court of appeal is interesting. Maybe we will have a system whereby appeals will either stop at the court of appeal but really important cases go direct to the Supreme Court..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By passing the court of appeal is interesting. Maybe we will have a system whereby appeals will either stop at the court of appeal but really important cases go direct to the Supreme Court..</p>
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		<title>By: flipper</title>
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		<dc:creator>flipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 02:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nooki or whatever

You just do not get it.
You, and all your crew, are attempting to relitigate matters that have already been decided.
You continually attempt to re-open, and relitigate, matters on which there can, nor  will be,  further meaningful debate.

If you will not listen to reason, nor read and learn from actuality, rather than speculation / misrepresentatiion (even of the Privy Council)  / lies / bullshit, then ridicule is requried to get your attention.  Nevertheless, it seems to have at least got your attention. 

In your message you raise only two matters of interest to me: Jones and Thomas.

R E Jones, Mr or Mrs Nooki, does draw water, and have influence.  You do NOT.

Thomas (the case, the outcome and the injustice to Thomas) , Mr or Mrs Nooki, has so many similarities to Bain, that if you really understood what happened to Thomas, and how it was eventually put to rest, you would not be campaigning for the bullshit JFRB idiots.   

Give it up: it was either Elvis or the dingo.    Either way,  Binnie was right, Collins and her stalking hofse (the ***** judge)  will go down the tube.

Oh, one further point.  Is Tamahere next?     :)

Go back to sleep.    I am going to get a rainbow for dinner.   :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nooki or whatever</p>
<p>You just do not get it.<br />
You, and all your crew, are attempting to relitigate matters that have already been decided.<br />
You continually attempt to re-open, and relitigate, matters on which there can, nor  will be,  further meaningful debate.</p>
<p>If you will not listen to reason, nor read and learn from actuality, rather than speculation / misrepresentatiion (even of the Privy Council)  / lies / bullshit, then ridicule is requried to get your attention.  Nevertheless, it seems to have at least got your attention. </p>
<p>In your message you raise only two matters of interest to me: Jones and Thomas.</p>
<p>R E Jones, Mr or Mrs Nooki, does draw water, and have influence.  You do NOT.</p>
<p>Thomas (the case, the outcome and the injustice to Thomas) , Mr or Mrs Nooki, has so many similarities to Bain, that if you really understood what happened to Thomas, and how it was eventually put to rest, you would not be campaigning for the bullshit JFRB idiots.   </p>
<p>Give it up: it was either Elvis or the dingo.    Either way,  Binnie was right, Collins and her stalking hofse (the ***** judge)  will go down the tube.</p>
<p>Oh, one further point.  Is Tamahere next?     <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Go back to sleep.    I am going to get a rainbow for dinner.   <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 02:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got any wording for your referendum question kowtow? How many signatures do you reckon you will get? Would it be easier to start a political party instead?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got any wording for your referendum question kowtow? How many signatures do you reckon you will get? Would it be easier to start a political party instead?</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
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		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 01:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The perpetual Treaty issue can be solved fully and finally with a referendum.

It will never happen and the train will run for ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The perpetual Treaty issue can be solved fully and finally with a referendum.</p>
<p>It will never happen and the train will run for ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 01:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t it be interesting if someone discovered that the Waikato Tribes had already sold the rights to the water?
Oh.  Wait...   http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/wr-hide-sight-what-if-maori-already-sold-water-lf-133930

From the 1865 deed of sale:

Me ona rakau  (With its trees)
me ona kowhatu (its stones/minerals)
me ona wai (its water)
me ona awa nui (its rivers)
me ona roto (its lakes)
me ona awa ririki (its streams)

me nga mea katoa o taua whenua o runga ranei o raro ranei i te mata o taua whenua
(and all appertaining to the said land or beneath the surface of the said land)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be interesting if someone discovered that the Waikato Tribes had already sold the rights to the water?<br />
Oh.  Wait&#8230;   <a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/wr-hide-sight-what-if-maori-already-sold-water-lf-133930" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/wr-hide-sight-what-if-maori-already-sold-water-lf-133930</a></p>
<p>From the 1865 deed of sale:</p>
<p>Me ona rakau  (With its trees)<br />
me ona kowhatu (its stones/minerals)<br />
me ona wai (its water)<br />
me ona awa nui (its rivers)<br />
me ona roto (its lakes)<br />
me ona awa ririki (its streams)</p>
<p>me nga mea katoa o taua whenua o runga ranei o raro ranei i te mata o taua whenua<br />
(and all appertaining to the said land or beneath the surface of the said land)</p>
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		<title>By: Nookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 01:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;By the way, you silly fools, if you have not read R.E.Jones (in NZ Herald) this morning, try reading (if you are able) and selling him on your lies, half truths, diversions and distortions&quot;

Not sure what brought that on Flipper. I asked why Collins should recuse herself. Normally a person who has to act judicially (ie, a judge, adjudicator, arbitrator) should recuse if there is actual or perceived bias. Collins is not required to act judicially. She is one of a number of people (collectively called &quot;the Cabinet&quot;) who have been asked to make a payment. Of course she has to participate in the process. Where are the lies, half-truths and distortions in that? 

What standing has Bob Jones got in all this, by the way? Has he suddenly become the gospel?

If it is any consolation, I am more than happy the Arthur Allan was compensated. I am also happy the Rex Haig wasn&#039;t. It&#039;s called having an open mind as opposed to being perpetually afflicted by some bad experience in the past.

Oh, if you really want to get your rocks off by childishly distorting names, just fill your boots. It&#039;s not clever and adds little to your case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By the way, you silly fools, if you have not read R.E.Jones (in NZ Herald) this morning, try reading (if you are able) and selling him on your lies, half truths, diversions and distortions&#8221;</p>
<p>Not sure what brought that on Flipper. I asked why Collins should recuse herself. Normally a person who has to act judicially (ie, a judge, adjudicator, arbitrator) should recuse if there is actual or perceived bias. Collins is not required to act judicially. She is one of a number of people (collectively called &#8220;the Cabinet&#8221;) who have been asked to make a payment. Of course she has to participate in the process. Where are the lies, half-truths and distortions in that? </p>
<p>What standing has Bob Jones got in all this, by the way? Has he suddenly become the gospel?</p>
<p>If it is any consolation, I am more than happy the Arthur Allan was compensated. I am also happy the Rex Haig wasn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s called having an open mind as opposed to being perpetually afflicted by some bad experience in the past.</p>
<p>Oh, if you really want to get your rocks off by childishly distorting names, just fill your boots. It&#8217;s not clever and adds little to your case.</p>
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		<title>By: peterwn</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterwn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not know if it applies here, but the usual reason for a leapfrog is where the court being bypassed is constrained by precedent and would give a predictable ruling. So the case might as well go straight to a court that can take a real look at it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know if it applies here, but the usual reason for a leapfrog is where the court being bypassed is constrained by precedent and would give a predictable ruling. So the case might as well go straight to a court that can take a real look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: flipper</title>
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		<dc:creator>flipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete G.

But of course.   
(My wife and I always give thanks to the Taniwha every time we hook a rainbowion Lake Tarawera.)  :)
And the MSM (circa 2012) let them get away with it. 
Not one pointed question put to the MC and their followers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete G.</p>
<p>But of course.<br />
(My wife and I always give thanks to the Taniwha every time we hook a rainbowion Lake Tarawera.)  <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And the MSM (circa 2012) let them get away with it.<br />
Not one pointed question put to the MC and their followers.</p>
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		<title>By: lastmanstanding</title>
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		<dc:creator>lastmanstanding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well we know what the result will be there with Judges who have made a career on the TOW gravy train. None of them are impartial all are biased against whitey and for the Horis. All are liberal revisionists with their own boats to row nothing to do with justice.
JK better get the law drafts people ready cause we are gonna need a law change to sort this shamles out and one that the SC cronies cant find a way thru cause betcha they will try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we know what the result will be there with Judges who have made a career on the TOW gravy train. None of them are impartial all are biased against whitey and for the Horis. All are liberal revisionists with their own boats to row nothing to do with justice.<br />
JK better get the law drafts people ready cause we are gonna need a law change to sort this shamles out and one that the SC cronies cant find a way thru cause betcha they will try.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;As the Maori council said after the High court decision, they were disappointed that the judge focused only on legal matters. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
??

Should the judge also have considered the opinion of friends and consulted with taniwha?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As the Maori council said after the High court decision, they were disappointed that the judge focused only on legal matters. </p></blockquote>
<p>??</p>
<p>Should the judge also have considered the opinion of friends and consulted with taniwha?</p>
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		<title>By: flipper</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/12/supreme_court_agrees_to_hear_maori_council_appeal.html/comment-page-1#comment-1063498</link>
		<dc:creator>flipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ross (aka the serial liar) and Nookee.....
There you go again.

I was not posting in support of any particular eye colour - just from personal knowkedge  of a terrible injustice that  required Robert David Muldoon and an AUSSIE judge (plus Peter Goodon &amp;  Archbishop Johnstone) to remedy - over the objections of the wionderful NZ judiciary, whom, when push came to shove, valued their  &quot;job knighthoods&quot;  over the system they had used to persecute A A Thomas.

By the way, you silly fools,  if you have not read R.E.Jones (in NZ Herald)  this morning, try reading (if you are able)  and selling him on your lies, half truths, diversions and distortions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross (aka the serial liar) and Nookee&#8230;..<br />
There you go again.</p>
<p>I was not posting in support of any particular eye colour &#8211; just from personal knowkedge  of a terrible injustice that  required Robert David Muldoon and an AUSSIE judge (plus Peter Goodon &amp;  Archbishop Johnstone) to remedy &#8211; over the objections of the wionderful NZ judiciary, whom, when push came to shove, valued their  &#8220;job knighthoods&#8221;  over the system they had used to persecute A A Thomas.</p>
<p>By the way, you silly fools,  if you have not read R.E.Jones (in NZ Herald)  this morning, try reading (if you are able)  and selling him on your lies, half truths, diversions and distortions.</p>
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