Throng on Igloo

December 10th, 2012 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

Regan Cunliffe blogs at Throng:

On monday, Sky and launched their hardly anticipated new subscription television service.

Here’s our list of reasons why it shouldn’t be under your tree this Christmas or anywhere else in your house for that matter.

10. It’s probably still broken.  

The custom built platform was supposed to be launched months ago but has been delayed due to “technical problems”.  Is the launch simply exploitation of the spending season or a Christmas miracle?

9. TVNZ are involved.

Remember when TVNZ said “TiVo transforms television“? How are all those customers feeling today?  How long before too melts down?

8. A comparable Freeview box is less than half the price.

There are a number of basic models of DVB-T receivers which also have the ability to record to a connected USB storage device.

7. Sport is ultra-expensive.

The base “30 day channel pack” plus purchasing every Super XV match The Chiefs play during that period would cost you up to $99.74. On Sky this would cost $72.46 and include more channels, every Super XV game and a lot more sports besides.

6. Paying for content that used to be free.

Two of the eleven Igloo channels feature content that TVNZ used to broadcast for free:  Kidzone24 and TVNZ Heartland.

5. All Igloo content is Standard Definition.

The only content that you’ll be able to view in High Definition is from any of the free-to-air channels that broadcast in HD.  All of the extra content you’re paying for is delivered in standard definition.  This includes movies and sport.

4. High per channel price.

The “Sky Basic” package costs approximately $1.36 per premium channel compared with $2.27 per premium channel on Igloo.

3. Igloo is not a middle option.

Currently, a new 12 month “Sky Basic” package (~63 channels) with 3 months free sport and SoHo and free installation costs $553.44.

A new Igloo box (~34 channels) which you install yourself and a 12 month subscription costs $478.05

A new Freeview box (~29 channels) which you install yourself costs from $99.

2. Two thirds of the channels you can already watch for free.

That’s right.  They’re already free.  And also the most watched.

1. You’re not an Eskimo.

They’re the only ones who should have an igloo.

Those are our top 10 reasons why you shouldn’t get igloo and now we want yours.  We’ve got a brand new Samsung MyFreeview HD digital TV recorder (BDE-8500) worth $649 to give away.

In addition, if anyone reposts this on their own blog, we’ll include any comments made there in the draw. Have at it.

So if you comment below on Kiwiblog why you think people shouldn’t get Igloo, you can win a Samsung MyFreeview HD digital TV recorder!

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29 Responses to “Throng on Igloo”

  1. simpsrob (4 comments) says:

    If we had the same ‘component pricing’ regulations as Australia people would be able to clearly see how expensive it will be…

    It also distracts from what the future really is, in the form of IPTV

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  2. scrubone (2,972 comments) says:

    TIVO was ok if you bought a box later on when they were really cheap :D

    But they have a point with no3 – this should be a lot cheaper for what it is. So the same thing applies I guess!

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  3. Kimble (4,095 comments) says:

    Raspberry Pi with TVHeadEnd on XBMC FTW!

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  4. Vinick (213 comments) says:

    Are there any channels available on Igloo that are not available on Sky? I’ve watched a bit of Heartland (on Sky) and would be a little disappointed if I am to lose it. Not enough to sign up for Igloo, of course.

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  5. frankflintstone (69 comments) says:

    tivo is awesome..just saying

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  6. Barnsley Bill (931 comments) says:

    Reminds me of a joke I once heard.
    Eskimo is driving down the road when suddenly his Skidoo starts to cough and splutter.
    So he pulls into the local garage and asks the mechanic if he can take a look.
    Mechanic says “sure, give me half an hour”.
    So Eskimo walks next door to get a bite to eat.
    After half an hour he wanders back to the garage and the mechanic is standing there shaking his head.
    Eskimo asks “what is wrong” and the mechanic replies “You have blown a seal”.
    “No I haven’t” the Eskimo replies. “I just ate an ice-cream.”

    We have a winner. Send me my DVR right now.

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  7. dog_eat_dog (683 comments) says:

    Why people shouldn’t get Igloo? Because it’s rewarding the same sort of logic that says DVDs should cost twice as much in NZ, if they even get released in our region at all, and anyone who dares ship them in themselves at singe unit (i.e. no bulk buy or shipping economies of scale) pricing should have to pay GST and duty to protect out-dated business models. If broadcasters want to know why people torrent and pirate TV content, then they should to region locking, price discrimination, and now Igloo. Not indulging inferior products with my hard-earned dosh is about the only way consumers have to send a message. That and OIA requests about how much TVNZ has spent on Igloo :P

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  8. Fletch (5,727 comments) says:

    I heard good things about TIVO, both from friends and on the Geekzone forums. It’s a pity that it’s not sold anymore as I would have liked to have got one.

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  9. Reid (15,626 comments) says:

    You shouldn’t buy Igloo because it means you’ll probably watch more TVNZ output and the output we have right now is dreadful, so who wants to actually pay to get even more of it?

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  10. SouthernRight (54 comments) says:

    Sky have prettu much used up the pay for view subscription base in NZ, now they are trying to suck in those who havnt bought into pay for view. Thats a good reason not to do it for a start.

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  11. labrator (1,691 comments) says:

    Is this a competition run by Red Alert?

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  12. Inky_the_Red (719 comments) says:

    I like Tivo though it has some annoying features (and support is non-existent). They needed a better partner with the pay download content.

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  13. Inky_the_Red (719 comments) says:

    As for Igloo I am not sure why Sky have launched an alternative platform.

    I suspect it is in part Sky want to stop competitors. Getting money from TVNZ to do so was a bonus.

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  14. CodyHM (13 comments) says:

    Is there any point to having the service? It seems like a whole lot of flash and bang with meagre benefit

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  15. Richard29 (377 comments) says:

    I had a look and even subscribed to their email distribution – but when the details of the pricing came out it just doesn’t stack up. Their point 3 says it all – it’s 80% of the cost of sky for a severely cut down version..

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  16. BigFish (131 comments) says:

    A conspiracy theorist might suggest it looks like Sky has made sure a viable alternative to them costs more and is worse than their standard service.
    Sky has managed to score a monopoly on a large amount of content, which quite possibly means that competitors either miss out on any decent content or pay extortionate rates to access content that’s been snapped up by Sky. Who knows?
    Sport is the trophy for Sky and they’d be silly to surrender anything that threatens their regular income stream from Sky subscribers.

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  17. bc (1,252 comments) says:

    The reason why I won’t be purchasing Igloo are the same reasons I dropped Sky two years ago:
    1) My freeview PVR records and plays in HD and Dolby 5.1 (the programmes that are broadcast in that format of course). Sky wants you to pay an EXTRA $10 a month to get programmes in HD. An absolute rip-off.
    2) Because I found myself watching TV through freeview I was hardly using SKY at all. When I did need to watch SKY for the SKY channels I found myself hating the poor broadcast quality.
    So I dropped it and found myself saving $90 a month. Any programmes on SKY that I wanted to see but couldn’t because I had dropped it, I bought the seasons on Blu-Ray, eg Game of Thrones for $50.
    So I was getting a better quality for less money!! A no-brainer really.

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  18. bc (1,252 comments) says:

    Regarding TIVO:
    I got a TIVO player for free when I signed up for a phone/broadband package at Telecom. It’s a good PVR, so disagree with point 9. (TIVO crashed because it was overpriced when it first came out – TIVO itself is pretty good).
    The other points are all valid (although #1 is hardly a point!!).
    Point 6 (which also applies to SKY in general) particularly irks me. Heartland and Kidzone have programmes funded by NZ on Air. The taxpayer has paid for those, so they shouldn’t be pay for view.

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  19. Key is our man (531 comments) says:

    Here is a top reason why you shouldn’t buy an Igloo.

    David Shearer just bought one.

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  20. Grant Michael McKenna (1,152 comments) says:

    TiVo is fine; it was over-priced for a while, but prices have come down.

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  21. tedbear (121 comments) says:

    As one seriously thinking of changing from TelstraClear cable tv to Freeview from my old sky dish, I found this summary most informative, thank you DPF.

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  22. bc (1,252 comments) says:

    tedbear, Freeview through a sky dish (with a satellite freeview decoder) is standard definition.
    Check to see if you live in an area that can get freeview in high definition (via a suitable tv aerial). About 80% of the country can get freeview this way.

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  23. Peter (1,471 comments) says:

    TiVo is great. It’s the Apple of HD recorders – pricey, but it just works.

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  24. Left Right and Centre (2,399 comments) says:

    Praise be the internet where you can find second opinions, from the comfort of your house, that don’t come from ‘the man’.

    Reid says: TVNZ output is dreadful

    Amen to that!! I spent about ten seconds watching some old crooner woman singing a war song… I think ‘we’ll meet again’ on ‘NZ’s Got Talent Issues’. Really?? ‘NZ’s Got Bad Karaoke’ when she was on. What a total frickin joke mate. And lots of dropkicks watch that rubbish start to finish. I need TiVo… then I could flick through it and just watch anything that’s mildly amusing without all the other shit.

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  25. Mech (3 comments) says:

    Because this isn’t the nineties and I have access to the Internet.

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  26. MT_Tinman (2,799 comments) says:

    There is only one reason I won’t buy Igloo, the prices don’t stack up.

    I want to turn the TV on and chill out, instantly, without having to buy something and (unhappily I admit) purchase SKY with movies and sport for that very reason.

    To do that the Igloo way I’d have to purchase content far ahead of time, most of which I’d never watch. That would cost me far more than the $15 per week SKY currently charges me.

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  27. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    People still watch tv?

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  28. RRM (8,997 comments) says:

    :-D Brutal! Guess I won’t get Igloo then.

    Still haven’t gotten around to purchasing a freeview box, which appears to be essential for reception at our new place.

    I listen to the guys and girls at work talking about the crap they’ve been watching on TV, and I just don’t feel like I’m missing out on much…

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  29. PaulL (5,776 comments) says:

    MT_Tinman: consider a freeview + recorder. You set it to record stuff you sort of like. Whenever you sit down there’s a stack of stuff there waiting for you to watch. There’s a reasonable amount of sport on free to air if you record it. It’ll change your viewing habits – you can watch stuff you like instead of watching what’s on when you sit down.

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