Well done Flat Bush Police

December 27th, 2012 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Jay Boreham at Stuff reports:

Police have helped a South Auckland family of 13 avoid eviction by transforming their Housing New Zealand home, bringing it up to proper living standards.

The Flat Bush Neighbourhood Policing Team gained the support of the local community and businesses to upgrade the home, which was in such a poor state of repair the family was on its last chance with HNZ.

A great initiative by the local Police.

Constable Karen Ancell said 11 children lived at the house with their 32-year-old mother who was pregnant.

I’m sorry? 11 kids? No mention of father or fathers. And pregnant again? This is why the Government changed the law this year, to reform our welfare system.

“We have stepped in to get the house up to scratch so the family can make a fresh start,” Ancell said.

“They are struggling, to say the least, and some of the children are starting to come to police attention.”

More than 40 volunteers helped with the make over while businesses donated materials and services.

What a wonderful community. Hopefully their generosity will serve as a lesson.

The volunteers fumigated the house, repaired damaged walls and painted the interior. Outside they tidied the grounds, erected raised garden beds and planted vegetables.

Police, Salvation Army and Habitat for Humanity representatives also donated furnishings to completely refurnish the house.

The community’s input for a family they had never met was huge, Ancell added.
 
“It’s about giving a family a fresh start. They are in a good place to change now, whereas in the past that hasn’t been the case.”

But giving them a home they can be proud of is just the first step. The police are also working to give the family the tools to become good members of society.

They will receive mentoring, budgeting advice, counselling and health checks as well as anger management and parenting training.

“They are in a bit of debt and it is very difficult to make headway out – it’s a vicious circle.”

It is an opportunity for a fresh start. But part of that is self-responsibility. If you are struggling to cope with 11 kids, why would you have a 12th? Contraception is generally free, as are long-term procedures.

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30 Responses to “Well done Flat Bush Police”

  1. George Patton (350 comments) says:

    Sounds like her family planning is even worse than her housing.

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  2. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    They are not her “kids” they are her meal ticket. Can you imagine what this parasite is sucking out of the tax payer each week?

    It is nothing compared to what it is going to cost to police and imprison her kids though.

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  3. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    I do acknowledge the great efforts of the community to help out, but I would like to see some responsibility from the baby factory herself.

    I was involved with a Chinese girl who lived in Flat Bush. I wonder if this lady is Chinese, Yeah Right !

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  4. Belinda (141 comments) says:

    Well done to the community but couldn’t an agreement for mother to get sterilised after next birth be part of the deal, and to give #12 baby to someone who would love it and give it a decent life.

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  5. ben (2,384 comments) says:

    Would be great to have a follow up in a year’s time to see if the changes stuck. I worry this is targeting symptoms rather than causes.

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  6. backster (2,184 comments) says:

    Well at 32 she has probably got another 15 years breeding left in her, by which time her off spring will also be adding to the Whanau. She could go for the Guinness book of records on breeding, Social Welfare handouts, possibly number of sires, and eventually number of decendants. As for the Police there must be a million other problems and a thousand other crimes and injustices they could be concentrating on in South Auckland.

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  7. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    Belinda: What an utterly disgraceful thing to say! How dare you suggest there you should be any external controls or even influences on a woman’s fertility…it’s her human right to produce as many as she likes…

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  8. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    what the f…happened to the edit function DPF?

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  9. Muzza M (291 comments) says:

    What you get for rewarding the wrong incentives.

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  10. David Farrar (1,901 comments) says:

    The plugin doesn’t work with the latest WordPress. It will be reactivated once it is updated.

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  11. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    DPF: Thanks..

    ben: 10 gets you 50 that if you go back next year, the house will be trashed (again) and she will be pregnant…again…But you can bet your arse no-one from the MSM will go back next year…

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  12. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    While New Zealand’s fertility rate (2.1 births per woman 2012) is better than AUstralia’s (1.8) it’s barely renewing our population. So for every woman having 12 children there are 6 having no children at all.

    With people also living longer, we need more young people entering the work force (assuming the government ever gets past glib “Zip it sweetie” answers to excite the slack-jawed inhabitants of the cheap seats and comes up with a strategy to, you know, create a few jobs) to support the increasing number of retirees.

    As a nation NZ needs those children if – and this is the real issue – they grow up to become productive members of society and not a drain on it.

    Rather than stopping the poor breeding (because they’re about the only ones doing it) we need a debate around how we ensure these kids don’t go onto a benefit when they’re of working age.

    Getting that right is the difference between keeping the country afloat or exponentially increasing the number of kids indirectly on welfare in 16 or so years when the current cohort reach reproductive capacity, and sending the country into ruin.

    So the issue raised by this woman’s lifestyle isn’t simply one of “let’s sterilise the poor” vs “let’s allow her the freedom to do whatever she wants and we’ll pay for it”; it’s more complex than that and requires considerable intellect, the abiluty to understand multiple steams of complex data, and an ability to forecast and plan a generation or more ahead.

    And to do this we have… Paula Bennett. Good luck, New Zealand. You’ll need it.

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  13. Longknives (4,868 comments) says:

    “They are in a bit of debt and it is very difficult to make headway out”

    How could she be in debt?? With her 11 kids this feral baby factory will be creaming a huge amount of FREE MONEY a week from WINZ. Not to mention the free Health,Dental, Food Vouchers and other assorted goodies that WINZ throws at such people every week under the guise of ‘Emergency Grants’…
    Remember she isn’t paying ‘Rent’ as you or I would know it (HNZ house)
    What the hell does she do with her…sorry OUR cash? Did anyone ask how much goes into Pokies and Woodstock Bourbon and Cola every week?

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  14. Longknives (4,868 comments) says:

    I’s rather see NZ Police chip in and help a struggling working family who deserve it (there are plenty out there). Not freeloading, bludging scum who see spitting out children as a ‘meal ticket’….

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  15. Scott1 (575 comments) says:

    letting them be kicked out of the HNZ house (and then fixing it) would probably automatically help a struggling working family who deserve it (ie the next family in line).
    Instead our family with the police’s attention still has it.

    Oh well, I hope they are inspired by their excessive good fortune to not make a mess of it again.

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  16. Scott1 (575 comments) says:

    “If you are struggling to cope with 11 kids, why would you have a 12th? Contraception is generally free, as are long-term procedures.”

    It could be the meal ticket hypothesis, but I suspect many people just dont think at all. especially when it comes to sex.
    So the solution might be as simple as going to some of these people and going.. “free long term contraception… lets sort it out.. i’ll drive you to the hospital… mary will watch your kids… yes, right now…”

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  17. mara (794 comments) says:

    Given the probable IQ of this woman and that of the respective father(s), their attitudes to societal responsibility, the nutritional status of the kids pre and post birth, the intellectual and the social stimulation inherent in their upbringing, I reckon we should expect to see a lawyer, RN, doctor, store manager, teacher, zoo keeper, actuary, astronomer, 2 nurturing mothers and 2 partridges in a pear tree. Money well spent I reckon. You nay-sayers are sooooooo …. churlish!

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  18. Left Right and Centre (2,994 comments) says:

    12 children to a dickhead at age 32?

    Law change: classed as intellectually disabled after x number of kids… you choose.. followed by sterilization.

    I’m a dickhead but at least I don’t have any no hoper kids mate.

    I thought it was going to say something like *the volunteers fumigated the house, but the occupants got outside somehow*. Hey buddy… you think that’s funny? Hey.. punk… I’m talking to you… hey.. you… LRC… I’ll fumigate you ya prize prick.

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  19. Kea (13,359 comments) says:

    “If you are struggling to cope with 11 kids, why would you have a 12th?

    The same reason she had the 1st one. Money $$$$

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  20. Colville (2,298 comments) says:

    12 children to a dickhead at age 32?

    Nope its 12 brats to 12 different dickhead fathers and none of which she can remember the name of so that they have to pay any child support, probably 6 of which still stay over sometimes.

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  21. Left Right and Centre (2,994 comments) says:

    Colville…

    yeah yeah.. no, I meant *she’s* the dickhead. Shit knows how many bloody dumbarse sperm donors there were!!

    She’s like a stray cat mate. If you don’t fix her, she’ll just keep on baking buns in the oven until you pull the plug out.

    Most folks know that there’s no point getting too worked up about extreme taxpayer cashcows like this one. It’s not illegal and there’s nothing you can do about it legally. They’re in the news on a routine basis. What can you do?

    Sucks hard doesn’t it? There’s ****nothin**** anyone can do about it…. GAME OVER!!!!!!!

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  22. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    I’m sure someone on this blog would give the sage advice to get a job goes there’s so many out there hanging on trees waiting to be picked and employers are so short of staff they have to look offshore for them where all the graduates are told to go as well.

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  23. Boglio (78 comments) says:

    While the number of children appalls me and the likelihood of more annoys me the actions of the Flat Bush neighbourhood policing Team are just those that have made them more acceptable and welcome to the local community and have largely helped to bring down the crime rate in the area. It is a fence at the top of the cliff rather than an ambulance at the bottom.

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  24. mara (794 comments) says:

    Boglio, where is your fantastical ambulance? At the bottom or the top of what? What cliff is this? Please explain in detail why NZ children, who live in a country of only 4 million with the softest welfare state in the world, are fucking hungry and so fat?

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  25. Left Right and Centre (2,994 comments) says:

    mara….

    I love it… *are fucking hungry and so fat?* First off, that’s gold. Second.. you would know that they’re not really hungry… just fat. So looking at the feral peasant LCD underclass of this great country… they’re not starving. NZ has got ‘so much poverty’ but poverty is no indicator of skinniness. ???? I guess you’ll know when the poor really are starving… the Worldvision ads will say ‘save a south auckland/ northland/ BOP child’ and they’ll be shots of skin and bone kiddies with the dead-eyed stare and the flies buzzing off them. Not yet though.

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  26. Left Right and Centre (2,994 comments) says:

    they’ll = there will. No edit function back yet. I can’t wait.

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  27. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    The really scary thing is that there are hundreds if not thousands in this country who would think that the comments on this thread are “just appalling”, and that this woman and all those like her have a perfect right to keep on breeding “willy nilly” as it were….perhaps Sue Bradford could have this lady and the kids around for Christmas dinner next year…

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  28. wreck1080 (3,956 comments) says:

    Appalling.

    I guess she rightly thinks that children are an insurance policy for her weekly income.

    Of course she is in no financial position to make her own way in the world so she shoots out a bunch of kids like squeezing pips out of a lemon and knows that society will either support her or be shamed at letting her kids go hungry.

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  29. Steve (North Shore) (4,587 comments) says:

    I wonder what the woman’s income is. 11 kids and 1 on the way, plus all of the other allowances it must be a fair wallop.
    Anyone know this?

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  30. Truthiz (185 comments) says:

    test 2

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    sorry

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