Comments on: Will NZ First break their own rules?

By: BlairM

BlairM — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 02:03:01 +0000

Unless Horan has forged signatures on any of the cheques, he has done nothing illegal. I repeat, he has done nothing illegal!

This is a civil matter. It may be embarrassing for Horan and for NZ First, but at most, it should be a suspension from caucus while the matter is sorted out. I don’t understand why so much has been made of what is largely a family matter.

By: burt

burt — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:46:01 +0000

I couldn’t possibly be that some of the funds Horan allegedly misappropriated were used for someone in NZ First to campaign with now could it.. It’s not like we can rely on electoral returns filled before a privileges committee has forced a refilling so who knows what to believe from NZ First… Just putting it out there….

But hey, I hear that if you use money you are not entitled to for that you don’t need to pay it back – Good luck Brendan ….

By: Nick K

Nick K — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 08:45:17 +0000

David, I think the reference to prostitutes was more to the shady underworld they are inherently involved in, and their predisposition to “gossiping”. They are useful as informants, but need to be kept at arms length.

By: David Garrett

David Garrett — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 02:52:52 +0000

PEB: somwhat off topic here… but apropos of your last comment…I am aware that policemen used to told to beware “the three P’s”: Piss, Property, and Prosititutes..the first two are self explanatory, but how does that work now, when prostitution is legal, and I believe at least one policewoman has been caught moolighting as one?

I realise you are no longer “in the job”, but I am interested in your view..

By: bringbackdemocracy

bringbackdemocracy — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 02:28:04 +0000

He should pay his debts like Winston does.

Where’s the $158,000 Winston?

By: wreck1080

wreck1080 — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 02:21:29 +0000

Hmm, but you can lose 500 million dollars of investors money and be A-OK.

Theres a huge double standard in this country. The more you ‘steal’, the more likely you are to escape justice.

By: rouppe

rouppe — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:59:57 +0000

And perhaps that is why due diligence is not done. We know Winston is a drinker, he’s around town all the time. We know he likes the ponies, and was Racing Minister (whatever that means) so probably gambling is part of his lifestyle as well. For the last, well I don’t know…

By: Pauleastbay

Pauleastbay — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:54:16 +0000

You would think that WPF would do due diligence on their prospective MP’s.

If you have a piss, gambling or whore problem there is always someone who knows, always.

Once again confirms that unworldly fuckwits populate our political spectrum, no idea at all, at all

By: David Garrett

David Garrett — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:45:03 +0000

Re DPF’s original post…if Brendon has learned from Uncle Winnie, he is perhaps staying on to collect his holiday pay over the loooong summer break…and after backing a few winners with said holiday pay, THEN he will perhaps decide his position is untenable?

Having lost the support of my leader I came to that conclusion fairly quickly….but then if PEB is right, the man may not be the sharpest tool, so perhaps we should be forgiving…

By: Warren Murray

Warren Murray — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:40:37 +0000

If he could have patched things up with his family for only $15,000 and didnt, he is a fool.

By: Warren Murray

Warren Murray — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:38:22 +0000

If $180,000 has gone missing over a certain period, why would Horan and his kin be discussing a much smaller debt of between $25 – $40,000? It suggests someone else helped themselves to much more. A private agreement (albeit unresolved) between the family implies he acted improperly but not illegally.

How much would a judicial review cost, if Brendan wanted to take NZF on? If he has no money, it seems his legal options are very limited.

By: Elaycee

Elaycee — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:32:57 +0000

MP Brendan Horan offered to pay $25,000 to his mother’s estate after he was accused of taking money from her bank accounts, but the deal collapsed, the Sunday Star-Times has learnt. …

The fact that Horan has offered to pay back $25,000 is surely a game changer. If he had been placing bets on behalf of his Mum (as he had claimed), he would have no reason to ‘repay’ anything at all.

And it now begs the question: If his Mum had added a codicil to her will seeking repayment of monies from Brendan and his sister, what was the sister’s role (if anything) in this matter? Does she also have a ‘case’ to answer?

Not good.

By: Pauleastbay

Pauleastbay — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:30:31 +0000

Whose dragging this out?

If the forsenic accountant thats doing this got school cert maths its should have taken 2 hours to have it sorted.

Its not Bernie Madoff FFS

and being the shy conservative type that rarely has an opinion that I am I do believe that I posted something along the lines after the election -”Brendan Horan in Parliament FFS the mans too stupid to tie his own shoe laces”:

By: Viking2

Viking2 — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:22:59 +0000

They can change the rules of course or IF Horan WANTS he can contest them. Given he seems to be broke without having OP money I guess that will rule out a high priced QC.

Boot the useless turkey out and stop paying him a salary, Indeed if he had any ethics at all he would quit and stop living off the largess of the Taxpayer who has no choice in the matter of paying him.

Justice is clearly in favour of the fraudster.

By: rouppe

rouppe — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:06:44 +0000

Just seen this on Stuff. That's not the actions of an innocent man, is it? However, don't expect Winston First to follow any rules or process.