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	<title>Comments on: A sensible step forward for Pike</title>
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		<title>By: felldownagain</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075812</link>
		<dc:creator>felldownagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree. He is our highest elected official.

One can almost sense the metaphorical condescending sneer of some of these self important bimbos.

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree. He is our highest elected official.</p>
<p>One can almost sense the metaphorical condescending sneer of some of these self important bimbos.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: lofty</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075487</link>
		<dc:creator>lofty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and Deidre Mussen, its Mr Key, you bad mannered person.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Deidre Mussen, its Mr Key, you bad mannered person.</p>
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		<title>By: BeaB</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075421</link>
		<dc:creator>BeaB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The old way to honour dead entombed miners was to seal off the mine forever. Much more dignified than this sentimental drama when the only &#039;bodies&#039; are likely to be a few sad relics we will have a media bunfight over.  Bernie Monk really does need to move on and let someone else hog the limelight.

lilman - I agree with you. Where were the unions? Or did they only turn up to collect their dues and to make capital out of a tragedy?And what about that safety officer who lost one son? What was he taking his pay cheque for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old way to honour dead entombed miners was to seal off the mine forever. Much more dignified than this sentimental drama when the only &#8216;bodies&#8217; are likely to be a few sad relics we will have a media bunfight over.  Bernie Monk really does need to move on and let someone else hog the limelight.</p>
<p>lilman &#8211; I agree with you. Where were the unions? Or did they only turn up to collect their dues and to make capital out of a tragedy?And what about that safety officer who lost one son? What was he taking his pay cheque for?</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Kearney</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075375</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Kearney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much time, money and risk are worth it just to move some human remains from one place underground to another place underground? When my brother died we never got back any remains. You can deal with grief and achieve closure without ever seeing a body, and these families may need help doing that. But we don&#039;t need a risk assessment to know that opening up the mine and going in just to get the remains out is too risky and too expensive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much time, money and risk are worth it just to move some human remains from one place underground to another place underground? When my brother died we never got back any remains. You can deal with grief and achieve closure without ever seeing a body, and these families may need help doing that. But we don&#8217;t need a risk assessment to know that opening up the mine and going in just to get the remains out is too risky and too expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: lilman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075368</link>
		<dc:creator>lilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frustrated by his stance you say.
Well Im frustrated by the locals firing barbs at everyone and sundry except the people who were in control of safety at the mine.As they were there on a daily basis and had direct input into standards and there enforcement ,they should be held accountable.
The Government is trying to deal with the present caused by actions of the past,if blame is to be put then dont bag Wellington but share some with the people whos job it was to measure safety daily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frustrated by his stance you say.<br />
Well Im frustrated by the locals firing barbs at everyone and sundry except the people who were in control of safety at the mine.As they were there on a daily basis and had direct input into standards and there enforcement ,they should be held accountable.<br />
The Government is trying to deal with the present caused by actions of the past,if blame is to be put then dont bag Wellington but share some with the people whos job it was to measure safety daily.</p>
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		<title>By: joana</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075338</link>
		<dc:creator>joana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;&#039;Frustrated by his stance.&#039;&#039;  Wow that is an understatement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Frustrated by his stance.&#8221;  Wow that is an understatement.</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075321</link>
		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did John Key make a promise to prioritise the recovery?


Experts? No doubt &quot;experts&quot; said the mine was safe to work in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did John Key make a promise to prioritise the recovery?</p>
<p>Experts? No doubt &#8220;experts&#8221; said the mine was safe to work in.</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075308</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without knowing what&#039;s changed since the last time the experts gave their views, it&#039;s pretty hard to guess whether this new meeting of the experts will come up with a different answer than all that&#039;s gone before.

This is Key being seen to be doing something, on some issue, to get his 2013 on a roll.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without knowing what&#8217;s changed since the last time the experts gave their views, it&#8217;s pretty hard to guess whether this new meeting of the experts will come up with a different answer than all that&#8217;s gone before.</p>
<p>This is Key being seen to be doing something, on some issue, to get his 2013 on a roll.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075293</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone doubt the outcome?

(miss the edit function)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone doubt the outcome?</p>
<p>(miss the edit function)</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/a_sensible_step_forward_for_pike.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075292</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, a convention of risk averse pencil pushing clip board wielding safety vest attired &quot;experts&quot;, that will fix it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, a convention of risk averse pencil pushing clip board wielding safety vest attired &#8220;experts&#8221;, that will fix it.</p>
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