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		<title>By: kiwidream</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1082457</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwidream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi there. You may find this post a little long.

At present I am studying a business ethics course and part of our assignment is to comment on a blog in relation to a topic outlined in our course material. The story from The Press on 08/01/2013, in regards to “Trying to find staff ‘a nightmare’” is an interesting topic to which I would like to comment on.

This article is a poor excuse for reporting, as it is clearly a tirade from a disgruntled employer, who discriminates based on appearance, which encourages businesses to seek employees from overseas, and it in no way supports the job market of NZ or the encouragement for the younger generation of our society. 

Hiring an employee is a monumental task management must face to gain the best candidate for the job. However, there are a proportion of NZ job seekers that have been taught through the generations that the benefit or Welfare system is there for people to abuse, to freeload from whenever possible, as the taxpayer foots the bill. But in saying that, the interview process and remuneration packages offered for certain jobs are a joke and businesses wonder why Kiwis are rushing to get off this Island.  The people of this fine country are big on individuality, independence and showmanship which include anything from Tattoo’s, Piercing’s and the like. Though we are then penalised for our eccentricities and categorised as unwilling or misrepresented as gang affiliates or just a shady character. It can also be assumed that most people (male or female) don’t have access or own a business suit to attend an interview, or have access to a neat pair of shoes. However there are now organisations such as Dress for Success and Dress to impress that are available, where one can obtain a donated suit for male and female job seekers in this economically difficult time, to help you get that job from would be employers. Mental preparation is sometimes the key to success and if one believes that mopping a floor or washing dishes is degrading to a person’s self-esteem, then no amount of money would probably entice them.

Discrimination based on personal or physical appearance is a violation in many states of the US (Forbes, 2012), under s21,1(k) of the Human Rights Act 1993, it is also illegal to discriminate against those that are a recipient of a benefit, and yet this woman clearly shows an attitude of disgust towards applicants of such a decree. I don’t believe in the use of Affirmative Action Policies, as it gives preferential treatment to a certain group of people, disadvantaging others in the pursuit of employment. In countries such as the USA or South Africa it would be a common place policy. But how effective or efficient is this type of practice? I believe it further divides the people of this world, categorising people like herds of cattle, and eventually affects the whole economic environment if all businesses used this approach. It appears to be another form of discrimination based on ethnicity, but is tied up in a little white bow and gives the illusion of equality for applicants. However here in NZ I would fear that it would disadvantage everyone. Our diversity has grown so much over the decades on such a small Island, that both Maori’s and Europeans are now the minority fighting for the right to be hired over, Indians and those of Asian descent.

Labour laws in NZ, have now changed in that the minimum wage is $13.50 an hour (Department of Labour, 2012); after taxes, ACC levies, Student Loan deductions, Super deductions etc, there’s still rent, food, utilities etc; how is offering a full time job at $14 an hour going to pay for the necessities of life? There is no wonder that our young people of society have flocked to the Welfare system, as you get paid to do nothing. Making a profit is not all a business should be about. Nevertheless that is all a business owner generally considers, so why does an applicant get penalised for wanting exactly the same thing as an employer? Many jobs are out there and not just in Christchurch, but people are labelled as selfish, picky or lazy unenthusiastic bums when it comes to them not applying for these jobs. I know first-hand, as I have my cousin’s girlfriend living with us. She’s on the benefit. She doesn’t pay me any board. I can’t see her actively looking for jobs but I know she wants one. I see many jobs in the paper and online, and yet she doesn’t apply for them. So what is that mentality? McPherson takes it to the next level and makes it public. As an employer she believes that hiring from overseas will solve all her problems, but I wonder what type of offer would be made to secure that applicant. The remuneration package that goes out to overseas prospectors is likely to consist of the same offer she made to the NZ Public or would she raise the bar and include other benefits and increase the hourly rate. 

McPherson’s business ethics in relation to hiring employees appears to be lacking. She seems to have a “preference” of what a correct candidate would look like and act. Yet she feels it is her duty to announce to the public the shortcomings of others. Exposing herself as an employer with discriminatory tendencies; prone to ridicule and bullying tactics of others within the workplace and issues with independent and innovative thinking.  She should try to have consideration for people of all walks of life, as she herself notes that she limits the opportunities for her business. If she could look beyond the exterior and not judge inappropriately she may find and hire an outstanding candidate for the job.

Thank you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. You may find this post a little long.</p>
<p>At present I am studying a business ethics course and part of our assignment is to comment on a blog in relation to a topic outlined in our course material. The story from The Press on 08/01/2013, in regards to “Trying to find staff ‘a nightmare’” is an interesting topic to which I would like to comment on.</p>
<p>This article is a poor excuse for reporting, as it is clearly a tirade from a disgruntled employer, who discriminates based on appearance, which encourages businesses to seek employees from overseas, and it in no way supports the job market of NZ or the encouragement for the younger generation of our society. </p>
<p>Hiring an employee is a monumental task management must face to gain the best candidate for the job. However, there are a proportion of NZ job seekers that have been taught through the generations that the benefit or Welfare system is there for people to abuse, to freeload from whenever possible, as the taxpayer foots the bill. But in saying that, the interview process and remuneration packages offered for certain jobs are a joke and businesses wonder why Kiwis are rushing to get off this Island.  The people of this fine country are big on individuality, independence and showmanship which include anything from Tattoo’s, Piercing’s and the like. Though we are then penalised for our eccentricities and categorised as unwilling or misrepresented as gang affiliates or just a shady character. It can also be assumed that most people (male or female) don’t have access or own a business suit to attend an interview, or have access to a neat pair of shoes. However there are now organisations such as Dress for Success and Dress to impress that are available, where one can obtain a donated suit for male and female job seekers in this economically difficult time, to help you get that job from would be employers. Mental preparation is sometimes the key to success and if one believes that mopping a floor or washing dishes is degrading to a person’s self-esteem, then no amount of money would probably entice them.</p>
<p>Discrimination based on personal or physical appearance is a violation in many states of the US (Forbes, 2012), under s21,1(k) of the Human Rights Act 1993, it is also illegal to discriminate against those that are a recipient of a benefit, and yet this woman clearly shows an attitude of disgust towards applicants of such a decree. I don’t believe in the use of Affirmative Action Policies, as it gives preferential treatment to a certain group of people, disadvantaging others in the pursuit of employment. In countries such as the USA or South Africa it would be a common place policy. But how effective or efficient is this type of practice? I believe it further divides the people of this world, categorising people like herds of cattle, and eventually affects the whole economic environment if all businesses used this approach. It appears to be another form of discrimination based on ethnicity, but is tied up in a little white bow and gives the illusion of equality for applicants. However here in NZ I would fear that it would disadvantage everyone. Our diversity has grown so much over the decades on such a small Island, that both Maori’s and Europeans are now the minority fighting for the right to be hired over, Indians and those of Asian descent.</p>
<p>Labour laws in NZ, have now changed in that the minimum wage is $13.50 an hour (Department of Labour, 2012); after taxes, ACC levies, Student Loan deductions, Super deductions etc, there’s still rent, food, utilities etc; how is offering a full time job at $14 an hour going to pay for the necessities of life? There is no wonder that our young people of society have flocked to the Welfare system, as you get paid to do nothing. Making a profit is not all a business should be about. Nevertheless that is all a business owner generally considers, so why does an applicant get penalised for wanting exactly the same thing as an employer? Many jobs are out there and not just in Christchurch, but people are labelled as selfish, picky or lazy unenthusiastic bums when it comes to them not applying for these jobs. I know first-hand, as I have my cousin’s girlfriend living with us. She’s on the benefit. She doesn’t pay me any board. I can’t see her actively looking for jobs but I know she wants one. I see many jobs in the paper and online, and yet she doesn’t apply for them. So what is that mentality? McPherson takes it to the next level and makes it public. As an employer she believes that hiring from overseas will solve all her problems, but I wonder what type of offer would be made to secure that applicant. The remuneration package that goes out to overseas prospectors is likely to consist of the same offer she made to the NZ Public or would she raise the bar and include other benefits and increase the hourly rate. </p>
<p>McPherson’s business ethics in relation to hiring employees appears to be lacking. She seems to have a “preference” of what a correct candidate would look like and act. Yet she feels it is her duty to announce to the public the shortcomings of others. Exposing herself as an employer with discriminatory tendencies; prone to ridicule and bullying tactics of others within the workplace and issues with independent and innovative thinking.  She should try to have consideration for people of all walks of life, as she herself notes that she limits the opportunities for her business. If she could look beyond the exterior and not judge inappropriately she may find and hire an outstanding candidate for the job.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: HC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075227</link>
		<dc:creator>HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[scrubone: You apparently never had to deal with WINZ, nor do you know what demands are placed on unemployed these days, to prove they look for work. Who knows, maybe in the regions down somewhere different rules apply, but here in Auckland, that is ABSOLUTELY what WINZ expect job-seekers to make efforts for. And that is NOT selective. When coming back from overseas in late 2005 I was also faced with a job seeker seminar that WINZ now expects all applicants for unemployment benefits to attend. It was unbelievable, they rammed it home, they said, get so many applications a day, and prove it, get going and do not come back. That was under bloody Labour!!

You and a few others have NO bloody idea about what is really going on at WINZ and the job market. You are just looking for excuses to rubbish some downtrodden, like the Nazis did with the gypsies, queers and jews of course.

You better inform yourself or feel bloody ashamed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scrubone: You apparently never had to deal with WINZ, nor do you know what demands are placed on unemployed these days, to prove they look for work. Who knows, maybe in the regions down somewhere different rules apply, but here in Auckland, that is ABSOLUTELY what WINZ expect job-seekers to make efforts for. And that is NOT selective. When coming back from overseas in late 2005 I was also faced with a job seeker seminar that WINZ now expects all applicants for unemployment benefits to attend. It was unbelievable, they rammed it home, they said, get so many applications a day, and prove it, get going and do not come back. That was under bloody Labour!!</p>
<p>You and a few others have NO bloody idea about what is really going on at WINZ and the job market. You are just looking for excuses to rubbish some downtrodden, like the Nazis did with the gypsies, queers and jews of course.</p>
<p>You better inform yourself or feel bloody ashamed!</p>
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		<title>By: Colville</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074971</link>
		<dc:creator>Colville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Griff/Paulus. I agree. As a humble (cough) tradie I am very happy that I took the work and learn route rather than the Uni route. 
The ritualised 8000 hr beating that is a apprenticship is a great way to learn to work hard, communicate and plan a project.
Its the planning and communication that are transferable to any field but working on the tools as with most things is about getting stuck in a getting the job done clean and fast with no comebacks. Learn that and you can make buckets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griff/Paulus. I agree. As a humble (cough) tradie I am very happy that I took the work and learn route rather than the Uni route.<br />
The ritualised 8000 hr beating that is a apprenticship is a great way to learn to work hard, communicate and plan a project.<br />
Its the planning and communication that are transferable to any field but working on the tools as with most things is about getting stuck in a getting the job done clean and fast with no comebacks. Learn that and you can make buckets.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074931</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paulus
Some dicount the trades as a employment path 
For any young person capable and reasonable intelligent trades can lead to some very interesting and lucrative careers
A easily achieved qualification as a licensed builder in four years or less would set him for life
As would his extra income over that time as compared to some one still within education going for a degree or similar and their ever increasing student loan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulus<br />
Some dicount the trades as a employment path<br />
For any young person capable and reasonable intelligent trades can lead to some very interesting and lucrative careers<br />
A easily achieved qualification as a licensed builder in four years or less would set him for life<br />
As would his extra income over that time as compared to some one still within education going for a degree or similar and their ever increasing student loan.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074916</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a builder friend from Tauranga who is in Christchurch. 
His two sons 17 (now in an apprentiship and 16 (who has to return to school) both have jobs.
The younger one is under orders from Mum to return, but he would rather stay and work]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a builder friend from Tauranga who is in Christchurch.<br />
His two sons 17 (now in an apprentiship and 16 (who has to return to school) both have jobs.<br />
The younger one is under orders from Mum to return, but he would rather stay and work</p>
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		<title>By: Scott1</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074568</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to be honest, in a very strong labour market it is appropriate for the employees to be picky.

So if the job market is so tough that you can turn up to a job interview tell the employer that you plan on keeping your toungue ring in avoid mopping floors and do it all in your PJs and still get a job somwhere for enough pay to keep you happy.. well it isn&#039;t your problem if employers are going out of business because they are offended by that. 

It could be these people are not getting employment anywhere in which case there is a issue for WINZ but if they are , after a reasonable search time, finding jobs... then it is the employer who we should be making fun of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be honest, in a very strong labour market it is appropriate for the employees to be picky.</p>
<p>So if the job market is so tough that you can turn up to a job interview tell the employer that you plan on keeping your toungue ring in avoid mopping floors and do it all in your PJs and still get a job somwhere for enough pay to keep you happy.. well it isn&#8217;t your problem if employers are going out of business because they are offended by that. </p>
<p>It could be these people are not getting employment anywhere in which case there is a issue for WINZ but if they are , after a reasonable search time, finding jobs&#8230; then it is the employer who we should be making fun of.</p>
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		<title>By: joana</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074564</link>
		<dc:creator>joana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for all the info re long term unemployment.  I don&#039;t expect to hear anything about it from anyone at Winz anytime soon.  Odd comments from S Maitland..Your dear leader promised 170,000 jobs.
Where are they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the info re long term unemployment.  I don&#8217;t expect to hear anything about it from anyone at Winz anytime soon.  Odd comments from S Maitland..Your dear leader promised 170,000 jobs.<br />
Where are they?</p>
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		<title>By: scrubone</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074554</link>
		<dc:creator>scrubone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It is expected that people make at least 20 applications per week, and reports and feed-back are asked for by case managers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re dreaming.

They might say that, but in reality you&#039;d be luck to find someone who&#039;s done a fraction of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is expected that people make at least 20 applications per week, and reports and feed-back are asked for by case managers.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re dreaming.</p>
<p>They might say that, but in reality you&#8217;d be luck to find someone who&#8217;s done a fraction of that.</p>
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		<title>By: scrubone</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074550</link>
		<dc:creator>scrubone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thor42, I once heard of a WINZ office that started calling it&#039;s &quot;client&#039;s&quot; cellphones, and most didn&#039;t even answer the call.

If National wanted, they could halve dole queues overnight by putting simple tests on people to prove they were actually prepared to work. But the utterly pathetic requirement to have people reapply for the dole annually (gee, you&#039;ve already done it once, how hard can it be?) is apparently a gross invasion of human rights on par with WWII.

Seems to be there should be a citizens initiated referendum!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thor42, I once heard of a WINZ office that started calling it&#8217;s &#8220;client&#8217;s&#8221; cellphones, and most didn&#8217;t even answer the call.</p>
<p>If National wanted, they could halve dole queues overnight by putting simple tests on people to prove they were actually prepared to work. But the utterly pathetic requirement to have people reapply for the dole annually (gee, you&#8217;ve already done it once, how hard can it be?) is apparently a gross invasion of human rights on par with WWII.</p>
<p>Seems to be there should be a citizens initiated referendum!</p>
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		<title>By: HC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074546</link>
		<dc:creator>HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I read the article in the press, I only see references being made to ONE employer. There is Diane McPherson, who runs a bakery by the name of &#039;Brumby&#039;s Bakery&#039; and another retail business called &#039;Wendy&#039;s Supa Sundaes&#039;. She offers jobs above $ 14 an hour, which may be as low as perhaps $ 14.10, $ 14.50 or whatever. The &quot;bakery job&quot; is offered at $ 20 an hour. 

There is no information saying the jobs are full-time, part-time, casual or seasonal. 

McPerson is making very critical comments and is quoted saying things about certain applicants, whom she considers unfit to do the job, unprepared and in some cases bluntly unwilling to work.

In all honesty, I find this article a bit bizarre. Surely, it is better to work and earn a living than having to put up with the these days draconian treatment WINZ staffers dish out to unemployed. It is expected that people make at least 20 applications per week, and reports and feed-back are asked for by case managers. I do not rule out that a fair number of unemployed are &quot;unemployable&quot;, as due to the not at all easy life one has to live while on a benefit (being honest), only the truly hopeless, least skilled and desperate tend to end up with WINZ for longer periods.

Who in their right mind wants to live off just over $ 200 a week, with perhaps a little accom supplement top up, and struggle to survive on the dole in now rather expensive Christchurch?

I acknowledge there are some attitudal problems with certain school-leavers and those under 25 or so, but I doubt that there is such a widespread problem with beneficiaries not wanting to work as this article and the employer mentioned try to portray.

Even in good times bakery operators can have diffuculty finding staff, as even work ready people may find it difficult starting work at 4 am or so in the morning, which is part of what such a job entails.

And polytech graduates may well know, that it is easy to get a better job in Christchurch now, than work in low paid retail. Perhaps McPherson is locally also well known to be a kind of employer one rather would not wish to work for? So all the prejudicial bene bashers do perhaps do a bit of reality check here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read the article in the press, I only see references being made to ONE employer. There is Diane McPherson, who runs a bakery by the name of &#8216;Brumby&#8217;s Bakery&#8217; and another retail business called &#8216;Wendy&#8217;s Supa Sundaes&#8217;. She offers jobs above $ 14 an hour, which may be as low as perhaps $ 14.10, $ 14.50 or whatever. The &#8220;bakery job&#8221; is offered at $ 20 an hour. </p>
<p>There is no information saying the jobs are full-time, part-time, casual or seasonal. </p>
<p>McPerson is making very critical comments and is quoted saying things about certain applicants, whom she considers unfit to do the job, unprepared and in some cases bluntly unwilling to work.</p>
<p>In all honesty, I find this article a bit bizarre. Surely, it is better to work and earn a living than having to put up with the these days draconian treatment WINZ staffers dish out to unemployed. It is expected that people make at least 20 applications per week, and reports and feed-back are asked for by case managers. I do not rule out that a fair number of unemployed are &#8220;unemployable&#8221;, as due to the not at all easy life one has to live while on a benefit (being honest), only the truly hopeless, least skilled and desperate tend to end up with WINZ for longer periods.</p>
<p>Who in their right mind wants to live off just over $ 200 a week, with perhaps a little accom supplement top up, and struggle to survive on the dole in now rather expensive Christchurch?</p>
<p>I acknowledge there are some attitudal problems with certain school-leavers and those under 25 or so, but I doubt that there is such a widespread problem with beneficiaries not wanting to work as this article and the employer mentioned try to portray.</p>
<p>Even in good times bakery operators can have diffuculty finding staff, as even work ready people may find it difficult starting work at 4 am or so in the morning, which is part of what such a job entails.</p>
<p>And polytech graduates may well know, that it is easy to get a better job in Christchurch now, than work in low paid retail. Perhaps McPherson is locally also well known to be a kind of employer one rather would not wish to work for? So all the prejudicial bene bashers do perhaps do a bit of reality check here.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074523</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[totally agree hj 
All this talk of a free market then they dont pay what the market is demanding for decent  labor. 
Unless we stop the welfare state subsidizing people it only makes sense that the subsidizing effects the employment market The noodles complaining will be earning way more than twice the minimum wage for their time,who was it that posted once that 250,000 was not rich, try living on a tenth of that. and they seem surprised that the reward for  low wages is shit unmotivated uninterested workers. The result we import peoples from low wage economy&#039;s to sate the greed of management.
This will eventually backfire on the greedys as new Zealand&#039;s  social environment, crime and pollution heads towards the conditions our new citizenry escaped from]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally agree hj<br />
All this talk of a free market then they dont pay what the market is demanding for decent  labor.<br />
Unless we stop the welfare state subsidizing people it only makes sense that the subsidizing effects the employment market The noodles complaining will be earning way more than twice the minimum wage for their time,who was it that posted once that 250,000 was not rich, try living on a tenth of that. and they seem surprised that the reward for  low wages is shit unmotivated uninterested workers. The result we import peoples from low wage economy&#8217;s to sate the greed of management.<br />
This will eventually backfire on the greedys as new Zealand&#8217;s  social environment, crime and pollution heads towards the conditions our new citizenry escaped from</p>
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		<title>By: thor42</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074509</link>
		<dc:creator>thor42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*Surely* WINZ should be getting employers who interview bludgers to RING them after the interview???  Isn&#039;t that &quot;common sense&quot;????   

All it takes is a phone call - &quot;WINZ?  Mr Jones here.  You referred Mr Plonker to me and he showed up in pyjama-pants and smoking a joint.&quot; 

That is ALL that is needed, and if WINZ aren&#039;t doing this then they are FUCKING INSANE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Surely* WINZ should be getting employers who interview bludgers to RING them after the interview???  Isn&#8217;t that &#8220;common sense&#8221;????   </p>
<p>All it takes is a phone call &#8211; &#8220;WINZ?  Mr Jones here.  You referred Mr Plonker to me and he showed up in pyjama-pants and smoking a joint.&#8221; </p>
<p>That is ALL that is needed, and if WINZ aren&#8217;t doing this then they are FUCKING INSANE.</p>
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		<title>By: duggledog</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074460</link>
		<dc:creator>duggledog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, sorry to come in so late in the piece with this gloomy thought but after reading SPC&#039;s link it&#039;s all semantics surely. If that&#039;s the state those nations are in, ergo we&#039;re toast sooner or later.

Pity those who&#039;ve grown up expecting the state to be there from cradle to grave, methinks that particular edifice is going to evaporate sooner rather than later.

Nobody will starve or die of thirst or warlords though]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, sorry to come in so late in the piece with this gloomy thought but after reading SPC&#8217;s link it&#8217;s all semantics surely. If that&#8217;s the state those nations are in, ergo we&#8217;re toast sooner or later.</p>
<p>Pity those who&#8217;ve grown up expecting the state to be there from cradle to grave, methinks that particular edifice is going to evaporate sooner rather than later.</p>
<p>Nobody will starve or die of thirst or warlords though</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074438</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The answer to the pay part of the pay and conditions question is right there in the story, and DPF has even copied it into his post:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The jobs McPherson is advertising all pay $14 an hour or more, with the bakery job starting at $20 an hour.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer to the pay part of the pay and conditions question is right there in the story, and DPF has even copied it into his post:</p>
<blockquote><p>The jobs McPherson is advertising all pay $14 an hour or more, with the bakery job starting at $20 an hour.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074431</link>
		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[andretti (122) Says: 
January 8th, 2013 at 10:32 am 
This is not new.i have had issues such as this trying to employ staff over the past 2-3 years.It seems to be getting worse,these people obviously have a fall back position where they can get money to live.Hell even when you do employ them and dont ask them very nicely to perform a task they can take offense and just walk out the door. I belong to the local chamber of commerce and the subject of employing under 25s gets discussed frequently,most employers up here would rather have nothing to do with them if possible.  end


pq
What was your pay rate offering Andretti, and terms of employment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andretti (122) Says:<br />
January 8th, 2013 at 10:32 am<br />
This is not new.i have had issues such as this trying to employ staff over the past 2-3 years.It seems to be getting worse,these people obviously have a fall back position where they can get money to live.Hell even when you do employ them and dont ask them very nicely to perform a task they can take offense and just walk out the door. I belong to the local chamber of commerce and the subject of employing under 25s gets discussed frequently,most employers up here would rather have nothing to do with them if possible.  end</p>
<p>pq<br />
What was your pay rate offering Andretti, and terms of employment.</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074428</link>
		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes yes, have any of the  informed commenters checked on the coditions and pay offered by Diane Mcpherson yet]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes yes, have any of the  informed commenters checked on the coditions and pay offered by Diane Mcpherson yet</p>
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		<title>By: Colville</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074418</link>
		<dc:creator>Colville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SPC. Obviously I was unclear. The only reason they &quot;apply&quot; is to tick the box with WINZ. Its a rort, same people apply every 2 months to be rejected again, for the same reason. No intention of working ever again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPC. Obviously I was unclear. The only reason they &#8220;apply&#8221; is to tick the box with WINZ. Its a rort, same people apply every 2 months to be rejected again, for the same reason. No intention of working ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KS - My son is also in CHC at Uni. He&#039;s articulate, intelligent (courtesy of his mum!), punctual and dilligent. I suggested he simply needs to do what&#039;s expected of him and he&#039;ll stand out from most of the others. He&#039;s never had trouble getting a job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KS &#8211; My son is also in CHC at Uni. He&#8217;s articulate, intelligent (courtesy of his mum!), punctual and dilligent. I suggested he simply needs to do what&#8217;s expected of him and he&#8217;ll stand out from most of the others. He&#8217;s never had trouble getting a job.</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074402</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you rather they turned up an interview and mentioned the drug use and priors (wasting the time of both parties if this meant no hiring was then going to occur) or kept this hidden and was either later grounds for a contested dismissal or revealed by a check/test after the interview?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you rather they turned up an interview and mentioned the drug use and priors (wasting the time of both parties if this meant no hiring was then going to occur) or kept this hidden and was either later grounds for a contested dismissal or revealed by a check/test after the interview?</p>
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		<title>By: Colville</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/christchurch_jobs.html/comment-page-1#comment-1074400</link>
		<dc:creator>Colville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bc @ 2.09.  what the fuck was silly about my comment? :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bc @ 2.09.  what the fuck was silly about my comment? <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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