Clifton on Carter

January 28th, 2013 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Jane Clifton writes:

The grandest, steepest ladder in this upheaval which to its ascender feels a lot like a snake, is that extended to outgoing Primary Industries Minister , who, to make room for the Cabinet “refresh”, has been frogmarched toward the ’s chair.

It is no secret that David enjoyed being a Minister, and especially Primary Industries. And he was well liked and respected in that portfolio. So a few have joked that the traditional (from the days when an angry King might execute a Speaker) reluctance the nominee is expected to show will not be feigned :-)

It also pays well and ends in a knighthood or damehood if one isn’t a republican. But though several Nats – notably colourful old-timers Maurice Williamson and Tau Henare – would practically auction their grannies for the job, and in Williamson’s case probably do a cracking job, it’s an ill-kept secret that Carter’s first love is primary industries.

I think Maurice has the skills, humour and knowledge to be a good Speaker. However the decision is obviously linked to Cabinet renewal also.

But that is not to say that I think David Carter won’t do well. I recall that many people were skeptical of how Lockwood would do as Speaker, and Lockie was been simply outstanding. In one sense, Lockwood has made it harder for his successors.

He’s also not one of those MPs who has a particular fondness or feeling for Parliament as the endearingly idiosyncratic institution it is. A Speaker needs to be fast on his or her feet, and demonstrably even-handed. Carter is affable, but has always been sharply partisan.

I have to rarely disagree with Jane here. I don’t think David is sharply partisan. Certainly not within 100 miles of Jonathan Hunt and Margaret Wilson.

New Zealand First leader Winston Peters is specially resistant to the Carter speakership, which, given Winston’s genius for parliamentry disruption, is a combustible state of affairs.

Well that is because he sued Carter for defamation and failed. I don’t see why that should be held against Carter. Peters was no fan of Lockwood also – nursing a grudge because Lockwood beat him for the Kaipara nomination in 1983 or 1984.

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24 Responses to “Clifton on Carter”

  1. anonymouse (705 comments) says:

    Unless he really likes it, I cannot see David Carter standing again in 2014,
    and if he really hates it, he can always resign as a list MP with out terribly upsetting the Goverment’s apple cart….

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  2. pq (728 comments) says:

    We will not accept Carter as speaker.
    Prepare now NZ Nat

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  3. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    We will not accept Carter as speaker

    Who’s “we” ?

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  4. pq (728 comments) says:

    “We” is NZ Nat party active, Carter very compromised. Lookqood, Lockwood was not, front up here NZ Nat , Peters can fuck you hard, get ready for coalition now dreamers.

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  5. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    ???

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  6. thedavincimode (6,574 comments) says:

    It’s the drink Rodders.

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  7. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    dvm – I guess that pq has had a late night at the Green Parrot.

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  8. Fox (202 comments) says:

    I think Maurice has the skills, humour and knowledge to be a good Speaker.

    You need humour to be a good speaker?

    Too bad nobody ever told Margaret Wilson…. :D

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  9. thedavincimode (6,574 comments) says:

    Rodders

    It goes without saying that any organisation with the drunken former mayor and Peters involved will consume a ferocious amount of the demon drink. pq seems to be very committed to toeing this party line. In fact, I understand that it was only a complete misunderstanding on Williams’ part that led him to becoming a list MP. When Peters invited him to join his party, Williams thought he was off for a night out. Imagine his surprise and bewilderment when he sobered up and found himself in Parliament.

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  10. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    :)

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  11. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    It ain’t about refreshing cabinet. Its about shoring up Key as leader.
    The first is patently obvious and the second is what is needed for his support or he will be rolled by the remants and new recruits to the brat pack.

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  12. pq (728 comments) says:

    oh dear, its always the same, NZ Nat do not understand that we need a coalition.
    I do not understand why they will not see the obvious. It us oK we appreciate their jokes.
    You can have a Green party/ Labour coalition smart arse, they just laugh at you as you do me.
    I do not go to the party line, I have always said Winston must now make the grade, and we will addvise Superannuants.
    Oh dear, have fun Rodders, report here little man, go on wanker

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  13. thedavincimode (6,574 comments) says:

    … hic …

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  14. pq (728 comments) says:

    Agree with Viking above. I have to talk with NZ First. It doesn’t matter what the idiots say.

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  15. pq (728 comments) says:

    thats right davinci idiot you are a hic

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  16. thedavincimode (6,574 comments) says:

    Bloody hell. What time did you start?

    You should hook up with Beryl. The two of you will get on like a house on fire.

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  17. pq (728 comments) says:

    I hope Carter will do well as speaker, Lockwood Smith was good, it was funny to watch him,
    lets hope maybe Carter do it,

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  18. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    go on wanker

    Oh. Knock me down with that Wildean wit :)

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  19. Nick K (1,099 comments) says:

    pq – are you living with Phil U?

    You seem to communicate like him.

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  20. thedavincimode (6,574 comments) says:

    10.49 am

    We will not accept Carter as speaker.

    11.56 am

    I hope Carter will do well as speaker

    That bottle you’re looking for may have rolled under the bed.

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  21. pq (728 comments) says:

    best another subject I think, Da Vinci idiot

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  22. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    thedavincimode (4,373) Says:
    January 28th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    10.49 am

    We will not accept Carter as speaker.

    11.56 am

    I hope Carter will do well as speaker

    That bottle you’re looking for may have rolled under the bed.
    ————————
    Nope. Behind the Speakers Chair.

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  23. thedavincimode (6,574 comments) says:

    V2, you don’t mean …?

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  24. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    Is there a Scotch minister in the House ?
    Winston needs a buddy. :lol:

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