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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/edwards_on_shearer.html/comment-page-1#comment-1088092</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shearer will never be a successful Labour leader. You can&#039;t smell the fish and chips on his breath. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shearer will never be a successful Labour leader. You can&#8217;t smell the fish and chips on his breath. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Mapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Mapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rex, I am certain John Key would be impressed with the comparison with Bill Clinton. And I think you are right about his skills; affable, sharp intellect, steely determination. And Labour has never understood this combination and therefore why John Key succeeds. But I guess many have worked out that the election next year could crucify David Shearer, especially in the debates.

Even more strangely the Left continue to accuse John Key of disception about assets sales, as if it was some awful secret being sprung on people. It is in fact a promise being kept. Just about everything National has done, it campaigned on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex, I am certain John Key would be impressed with the comparison with Bill Clinton. And I think you are right about his skills; affable, sharp intellect, steely determination. And Labour has never understood this combination and therefore why John Key succeeds. But I guess many have worked out that the election next year could crucify David Shearer, especially in the debates.</p>
<p>Even more strangely the Left continue to accuse John Key of disception about assets sales, as if it was some awful secret being sprung on people. It is in fact a promise being kept. Just about everything National has done, it campaigned on.</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
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		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember Edwards haranging Garth Mc Vicar about smacking.. &quot;you want to hurt people..&quot; he turned and looked at Garth Mcvicar placing his back between the camera and Garth McVicar. Apparently it was more important that Mr Edwards confronted Garth McVicor head on than the viewer. Edwards seemed to think his opinion trumped the viewer?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Edwards haranging Garth Mc Vicar about smacking.. &#8220;you want to hurt people..&#8221; he turned and looked at Garth Mcvicar placing his back between the camera and Garth McVicar. Apparently it was more important that Mr Edwards confronted Garth McVicor head on than the viewer. Edwards seemed to think his opinion trumped the viewer?</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
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		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be a massive step for a labour leader to embrace the findings of the Savings Working Group as left and right have an unwritten agreement that you don&#039;t attack immigration (people are a good and more are better). Meantime Shearer is stuck with the waffelly policies of &quot;progressives of the internationalist traditions&quot;

..sustainability begins at home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a massive step for a labour leader to embrace the findings of the Savings Working Group as left and right have an unwritten agreement that you don&#8217;t attack immigration (people are a good and more are better). Meantime Shearer is stuck with the waffelly policies of &#8220;progressives of the internationalist traditions&#8221;</p>
<p>..sustainability begins at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thedavaselinemode- Your sentence construction is appalling. I hope nobody in government is paying you for your writing skills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thedavaselinemode- Your sentence construction is appalling. I hope nobody in government is paying you for your writing skills.</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
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		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can Labour be strong when it has a loopy heart:

http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-what-diversity-dividend/?i=25#replies]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can Labour be strong when it has a loopy heart:</p>
<p><a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-what-diversity-dividend/?i=25#replies" rel="nofollow">http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-what-diversity-dividend/?i=25#replies</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BeaB points out:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Many Nats are frustrated with his refusal to blame everything on Labour eg Chris Carter signing us up for Novopay but he knows this strategy makes him look stronger and in charge. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s a pefect example, Bea. What politician in living memory (even including Clark) has resisted the temptation to do that? Not a one. But Key does and you&#039;re right, he does so for a very calculated and strategic reason which would seem counter-intuitive to someone whose instincts were not as refined (i.e. almost everyone else in politics).

Yet I recall journos fawning over Micael Lhaws saying what a great strategist he was (a claim he thought enough of himself to write a book extolling, since no one else would), yet look what he did when he inherited NZF - plunged it from 30 to 13 percent by election day 1996 and thence to 3 percent before he jumped ship. And blamed Winston for the whole mess.

I rarely see a journo writing similar things about Key, yet his mastery of the dark arts of politics is rarely seen anywhere. It&#039;s not a comparison he&#039;d appreciate, but the nearest I can bring to mind is Bill Clinton, the similarity being that an intelligent and agile mind managed to project an &quot;Aw, shucks&quot; sincerity to voters much less intelligent than himself. You saw exactly the Clinton he wanted you to see: policy wonks got a policy wonk, Republicans got a President willing to stare them down over a government shutdown, Southerners got a good ol&#039; boy, and so on...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BeaB points out:</p>
<blockquote><p>Many Nats are frustrated with his refusal to blame everything on Labour eg Chris Carter signing us up for Novopay but he knows this strategy makes him look stronger and in charge. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a pefect example, Bea. What politician in living memory (even including Clark) has resisted the temptation to do that? Not a one. But Key does and you&#8217;re right, he does so for a very calculated and strategic reason which would seem counter-intuitive to someone whose instincts were not as refined (i.e. almost everyone else in politics).</p>
<p>Yet I recall journos fawning over Micael Lhaws saying what a great strategist he was (a claim he thought enough of himself to write a book extolling, since no one else would), yet look what he did when he inherited NZF &#8211; plunged it from 30 to 13 percent by election day 1996 and thence to 3 percent before he jumped ship. And blamed Winston for the whole mess.</p>
<p>I rarely see a journo writing similar things about Key, yet his mastery of the dark arts of politics is rarely seen anywhere. It&#8217;s not a comparison he&#8217;d appreciate, but the nearest I can bring to mind is Bill Clinton, the similarity being that an intelligent and agile mind managed to project an &#8220;Aw, shucks&#8221; sincerity to voters much less intelligent than himself. You saw exactly the Clinton he wanted you to see: policy wonks got a policy wonk, Republicans got a President willing to stare them down over a government shutdown, Southerners got a good ol&#8217; boy, and so on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sparky</title>
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		<dc:creator>sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paulus (1,476)

Unfortunately MMP will see a Labour/Greenpeace/Winston/Mana alliance in 2014.

What an absolute load of BOLLAX. If you can&#039;t sell your Party, and you have BS policy anyone with half a brain would not
vote for Labour/Greens. You would have to be nuts. John Key is safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulus (1,476)</p>
<p>Unfortunately MMP will see a Labour/Greenpeace/Winston/Mana alliance in 2014.</p>
<p>What an absolute load of BOLLAX. If you can&#8217;t sell your Party, and you have BS policy anyone with half a brain would not<br />
vote for Labour/Greens. You would have to be nuts. John Key is safe.</p>
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		<title>By: thedavincimode</title>
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		<dc:creator>thedavincimode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was that a rather long-winded way of saying that Shearer is a tool?

B Edwards et al slag off the blogeration for it&#039;s lack of reasoned argument and deployment of the ad hom, but the reality is that the blogeration is quite capable of getting to the point and encapsulating Shearer&#039;s shortcomings in a far more efficient manner that doesn&#039;t require the reader to trawl through a pointless reminder of information that already exists in the public arena, or of conclusions that are self-evident having regard to that information.  Ergo, &quot;Shearer is a tool&quot; is a more than effcient substitute for Edwards&#039; chest puffing exercise and is a conclusion readily comprehensible to the assembled masses that doesn&#039;t require any persistence in dredging through Edwards&#039; exercise in self flagellation.

Edwards, if he felt compelled to opine on the subject, could merely have said:  &quot;BTW, here is yet another example of Shearer being a tool&quot;.  Eager readers yet to be convinced of that fact, would then have had an opportunity to read on with bated breath, whilst those who require no further evidence might merely prefer to continue about their business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was that a rather long-winded way of saying that Shearer is a tool?</p>
<p>B Edwards et al slag off the blogeration for it&#8217;s lack of reasoned argument and deployment of the ad hom, but the reality is that the blogeration is quite capable of getting to the point and encapsulating Shearer&#8217;s shortcomings in a far more efficient manner that doesn&#8217;t require the reader to trawl through a pointless reminder of information that already exists in the public arena, or of conclusions that are self-evident having regard to that information.  Ergo, &#8220;Shearer is a tool&#8221; is a more than effcient substitute for Edwards&#8217; chest puffing exercise and is a conclusion readily comprehensible to the assembled masses that doesn&#8217;t require any persistence in dredging through Edwards&#8217; exercise in self flagellation.</p>
<p>Edwards, if he felt compelled to opine on the subject, could merely have said:  &#8220;BTW, here is yet another example of Shearer being a tool&#8221;.  Eager readers yet to be convinced of that fact, would then have had an opportunity to read on with bated breath, whilst those who require no further evidence might merely prefer to continue about their business.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately MMP will see a Labour/Greenpeace/Winston/Mana alliance in 2014.
It has nothing to do with Shearer&#039;s personality, it&#039;s will be the media who still have&quot;Ambrose Utu&quot; in their minds - knock, kick John Key, and thereby the National coalition. There is till hate in the media about &quot;Ambrose&quot; . How dare Key acceot Ambrose&#039;s written apology for his discraceful conduct in selling the recording of the Key/Banks conversation to his media friends, and getting a copy to Winston Peters.
A small 2% swing is all that is needed and that will give Greenpeace the advantage as they take votes from Labour.
All the Part Maori Party seats, plus Christchurch will got to Labour (Lianne and Jim are doing that in Christchurch - major media bitch leaders).
Shearer is a nice guy, but God preserve me from nice guys.
He has not got the vindictive nastiness necessary to lead the present Labour block, who in following Greenpeace have swung further left again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately MMP will see a Labour/Greenpeace/Winston/Mana alliance in 2014.<br />
It has nothing to do with Shearer&#8217;s personality, it&#8217;s will be the media who still have&#8221;Ambrose Utu&#8221; in their minds &#8211; knock, kick John Key, and thereby the National coalition. There is till hate in the media about &#8220;Ambrose&#8221; . How dare Key acceot Ambrose&#8217;s written apology for his discraceful conduct in selling the recording of the Key/Banks conversation to his media friends, and getting a copy to Winston Peters.<br />
A small 2% swing is all that is needed and that will give Greenpeace the advantage as they take votes from Labour.<br />
All the Part Maori Party seats, plus Christchurch will got to Labour (Lianne and Jim are doing that in Christchurch &#8211; major media bitch leaders).<br />
Shearer is a nice guy, but God preserve me from nice guys.<br />
He has not got the vindictive nastiness necessary to lead the present Labour block, who in following Greenpeace have swung further left again.</p>
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		<title>By: iMP</title>
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		<dc:creator>iMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a way its not that important how good/bad Shearer is.  NZ will elect or get a de facto coalition Left government in 2014 or 2017 because the Centre-Right will have had its turn. The public don&#039;t vote for leaders, they give groups turns, to balance governance.  Time is ticking on National.  It needs allies who can grow the MMP cake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a way its not that important how good/bad Shearer is.  NZ will elect or get a de facto coalition Left government in 2014 or 2017 because the Centre-Right will have had its turn. The public don&#8217;t vote for leaders, they give groups turns, to balance governance.  Time is ticking on National.  It needs allies who can grow the MMP cake.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Along with his “cheap houses for all!”. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Kiwibuild is not that generous, it is cheap houses for those that win Labour&#039;s new house lottery (or new box in block if in Auckland).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Along with his “cheap houses for all!”. </p></blockquote>
<p>Kiwibuild is not that generous, it is cheap houses for those that win Labour&#8217;s new house lottery (or new box in block if in Auckland).</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think Shearer stands a chance up against Key – and I think Shearer knows it only too well but his ego wouldn’t let him turn down being leader of the opposition.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And there&#039;s been a lot of talk abour exactly that on the left for some time, they dread muddling through to the campaign next year protecting Shearer as much as possible from unscripted media, and then Key annihiliating him in the debates. 

Some of thee same people thought Goff improved markedly for the 2011 campaign. I disagree with that, he wasn&#039;t as bad as Shearer but he was famously caught short on knowledge (&quot;Show me the money!&quot;) and (to a lesser extent than Shearer) he often looked like his heart wasn&#039;t in his words. 

Goff was simply a more accomplished reciter than Shearer. And he wasn&#039;t the only one, that&#039;s how David Clark campaigned too (and David Parker?), except he looked like he believed what he&#039;d been told to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t think Shearer stands a chance up against Key – and I think Shearer knows it only too well but his ego wouldn’t let him turn down being leader of the opposition.</p></blockquote>
<p>And there&#8217;s been a lot of talk abour exactly that on the left for some time, they dread muddling through to the campaign next year protecting Shearer as much as possible from unscripted media, and then Key annihiliating him in the debates. </p>
<p>Some of thee same people thought Goff improved markedly for the 2011 campaign. I disagree with that, he wasn&#8217;t as bad as Shearer but he was famously caught short on knowledge (&#8220;Show me the money!&#8221;) and (to a lesser extent than Shearer) he often looked like his heart wasn&#8217;t in his words. </p>
<p>Goff was simply a more accomplished reciter than Shearer. And he wasn&#8217;t the only one, that&#8217;s how David Clark campaigned too (and David Parker?), except he looked like he believed what he&#8217;d been told to say.</p>
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		<title>By: greenjacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenjacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Classic line was when Shearer said that &quot;when a five-year old goes to school without having had breakfast, something is wrong.&quot; OK - I thought - it shows that some parents are not carrying out their basic duty of giving breakfast to their kids (porridge and some cut fruit on top isn&#039;t expensive, so its not poverty). But his answer - free food for all kids! Along with his &quot;cheap houses for all!&quot;. 

Of course, he has absolutely no idea at all where the money is going to come from to pay for all this State-supplied food and housing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic line was when Shearer said that &#8220;when a five-year old goes to school without having had breakfast, something is wrong.&#8221; OK &#8211; I thought &#8211; it shows that some parents are not carrying out their basic duty of giving breakfast to their kids (porridge and some cut fruit on top isn&#8217;t expensive, so its not poverty). But his answer &#8211; free food for all kids! Along with his &#8220;cheap houses for all!&#8221;. </p>
<p>Of course, he has absolutely no idea at all where the money is going to come from to pay for all this State-supplied food and housing.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I see this time to be extremely fertile a chance for creating and establishing a completely new party, which could be joined by progressive, inclusive, fair minded, intelligent and competent new faces, and they would instantly get 20 plus per cent next election, no problem!&quot;

Ta very much Helen.

The cheque is on its way.

Signed
David Cunliffe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I see this time to be extremely fertile a chance for creating and establishing a completely new party, which could be joined by progressive, inclusive, fair minded, intelligent and competent new faces, and they would instantly get 20 plus per cent next election, no problem!&#8221;</p>
<p>Ta very much Helen.</p>
<p>The cheque is on its way.</p>
<p>Signed<br />
David Cunliffe.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwi in america</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiwi in america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian Edwards, whilst he is unwittingly (or perhaps even knowingly) doing the bidding of his former client now resident of New York, has hit the nail on the head. I had dinner just after New Years with my old Labour mates now out of senior leadership in the party and they despair of the cunundrum that Labour&#039;s constitutional changes has wrought and of the influence of the hard left former Alliance/New Labour types who form the bulk of the &#039;regeneration&#039; that Mike Williams rabbits on about. They dont like Key&#039;s policies as they are still tribally Labour but they know a class political act when they see at and they know Key will eat Shearer for breakfast if he lasts until 2014.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Edwards, whilst he is unwittingly (or perhaps even knowingly) doing the bidding of his former client now resident of New York, has hit the nail on the head. I had dinner just after New Years with my old Labour mates now out of senior leadership in the party and they despair of the cunundrum that Labour&#8217;s constitutional changes has wrought and of the influence of the hard left former Alliance/New Labour types who form the bulk of the &#8216;regeneration&#8217; that Mike Williams rabbits on about. They dont like Key&#8217;s policies as they are still tribally Labour but they know a class political act when they see at and they know Key will eat Shearer for breakfast if he lasts until 2014.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;John Key put on an excellent performance today. David Shearer was absolutely hopeless, and definitely not Leadership material.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Alas you mistake a contest between wannabe stand up comedians as an example of solid political discourse and the one who delivers the best oneliners as exhibiting leadership.

D&#039;ya think if my kids in Australia were to have seen that that they&#039;d be suddenly inspired to move back here to build their futures  and raise   families?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>John Key put on an excellent performance today. David Shearer was absolutely hopeless, and definitely not Leadership material.</p></blockquote>
<p>Alas you mistake a contest between wannabe stand up comedians as an example of solid political discourse and the one who delivers the best oneliners as exhibiting leadership.</p>
<p>D&#8217;ya think if my kids in Australia were to have seen that that they&#8217;d be suddenly inspired to move back here to build their futures  and raise   families?</p>
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		<title>By: BeaB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeaB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rex 
I agree totally with your judgement of Key. It has always been a huge failure of Labour to underestimate him and sneer at him as a money trader when in fact his career was crucially as a top global executive - a position no-one achieves without stellar qualities. He has an easygoing, pleasant manner which I think is genuine.  It also disguises a sharp intellect and a steely sense of strategy.
Many Nats are frustrated with his refusal to blame everything on Labour eg Chris Carter signing us up for Novopay but he knows this strategy makes him look stronger and in charge. And, by contrast, Labour look like a bunch of silly timewasters playing the old political games.

I don&#039;t think Shearer stands a chance up against Key - and I think Shearer knows it only too well but his ego wouldn&#039;t let him turn down being leader of the opposition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex<br />
I agree totally with your judgement of Key. It has always been a huge failure of Labour to underestimate him and sneer at him as a money trader when in fact his career was crucially as a top global executive &#8211; a position no-one achieves without stellar qualities. He has an easygoing, pleasant manner which I think is genuine.  It also disguises a sharp intellect and a steely sense of strategy.<br />
Many Nats are frustrated with his refusal to blame everything on Labour eg Chris Carter signing us up for Novopay but he knows this strategy makes him look stronger and in charge. And, by contrast, Labour look like a bunch of silly timewasters playing the old political games.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Shearer stands a chance up against Key &#8211; and I think Shearer knows it only too well but his ego wouldn&#8217;t let him turn down being leader of the opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: sparky</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TO: HC (14) 

John Key put on an excellent performance today. David Shearer was absolutely hopeless, and definitely not Leadership material.]]></description>
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<p>John Key put on an excellent performance today. David Shearer was absolutely hopeless, and definitely not Leadership material.</p>
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		<title>By: HC</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Shearer&#039;s speech in Parliament today was once again less than inspiring and very mediocre at best. I see the man trying, trying so hard, to present himself as a &quot;strong&quot;, well spoken, convincing &quot;leader&quot; of the Labour Party, but honestly, he is totally unfit for the leadership role. His look went up to the balconies where the public can sit, and he was desperate to find encouragement and approval. 

While Key did basically just deliver a refresher of what he and National have announced and talked about for years, what he announced more recently in his State of the Nation speech, and besides of that did all to ridicule and criticise and blame Labour (for NZ&#039;s difficult challenges), Key did not appear to be the tired man he was for much of late last year. He seems to have prepared himself for a busy and challenging parliamentary year in 2013.

Shearer was trying oratory, looked wooden, did not convince me and others much, and he repeated, rather in defensive modes, what Labour would do and offer in housing, training of youth and so on. Yet there was nothing new, no announcements of what Labour will offer for an alternative, and more deflection and endless criticism of National.

I feel the Nats had their days, and they deserve to go sooner than later, but for Labour to form a competent, convincing alternative government, likely to depend on the Greens (and others), Shearer must go! He will only cost Labour too much. Like him a few old heads in caucus need to roll, and a refreshed party must be presented. 

For Labour the time has come, to cut out dead wood, and the time is now, or they will soon be overtaken by the Greens, or perhaps even, by a newly founded, more inclusive, competent, freshly organised and staffed party to the left of centre. I see this time to be extremely fertile a chance for creating and establishing a completely new party, which could be joined by progressive, inclusive, fair minded, intelligent and competent new faces, and they would instantly get 20 plus per cent next election, no problem!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Shearer&#8217;s speech in Parliament today was once again less than inspiring and very mediocre at best. I see the man trying, trying so hard, to present himself as a &#8220;strong&#8221;, well spoken, convincing &#8220;leader&#8221; of the Labour Party, but honestly, he is totally unfit for the leadership role. His look went up to the balconies where the public can sit, and he was desperate to find encouragement and approval. </p>
<p>While Key did basically just deliver a refresher of what he and National have announced and talked about for years, what he announced more recently in his State of the Nation speech, and besides of that did all to ridicule and criticise and blame Labour (for NZ&#8217;s difficult challenges), Key did not appear to be the tired man he was for much of late last year. He seems to have prepared himself for a busy and challenging parliamentary year in 2013.</p>
<p>Shearer was trying oratory, looked wooden, did not convince me and others much, and he repeated, rather in defensive modes, what Labour would do and offer in housing, training of youth and so on. Yet there was nothing new, no announcements of what Labour will offer for an alternative, and more deflection and endless criticism of National.</p>
<p>I feel the Nats had their days, and they deserve to go sooner than later, but for Labour to form a competent, convincing alternative government, likely to depend on the Greens (and others), Shearer must go! He will only cost Labour too much. Like him a few old heads in caucus need to roll, and a refreshed party must be presented. </p>
<p>For Labour the time has come, to cut out dead wood, and the time is now, or they will soon be overtaken by the Greens, or perhaps even, by a newly founded, more inclusive, competent, freshly organised and staffed party to the left of centre. I see this time to be extremely fertile a chance for creating and establishing a completely new party, which could be joined by progressive, inclusive, fair minded, intelligent and competent new faces, and they would instantly get 20 plus per cent next election, no problem!</p>
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