where is the “arbitrary standard” in selecting on ability and ambition rather than gender ?

The argument that men play for the All Blacks therefore men should be on the NZRFU board is the arbitrary standard. There’s no logical connection between those two points, and I was satirising that thinking.

You choose the best team for the All Blacks (which isn’t always just the best players, we want the best combination and team) and I’d hope the NZRFU does the same for it’s board.

But I’m fairly confident that it isn’t as true of selecting a board as it is a sports team that gets judged on the field by it’s wins and losses. It’s much harder to quantify the work of a board and a there’s a lot more room for prejudices to sway decisions.

A. The Black Ferns have won all four of their last four World Cup tournaments whereas the All Blacks have won only one.

Judy McGregor and her whole portfolio should be axed.

Q. What Key’s National Party is waiting for?
A. To grow a pair and muster the political courage and spine that badly lacks.

I thought they succeeded. Do you not remember Ruben Thorne or Todd Blackadder?

Typical socialist point of view.

What they should do is look at how much money the NZRU and NZC spend on the female version of our winter and summer games compared to how much money those female teams bring in. I would wager that the chicks bring in nothing at all. The cost of funding bloody ordinary female rugby players and even more ordinary female cricketers is horrendous.

Given that rugby and cricket are now a business at the top level then there is a really good argument for any board to recommend that the national bodies do away with the shelia all blacks and the shelia blackcaps.

A few years ago I was involved in cricket administration at a fairly high level, the demands from the females were never ending. They wanted everything that the mens team had and did not care what the cost was. When I pointed out that they (the chicks) did not generate one cent of revenue from the female game and therefore we could not justify spending any more on them they became extremely abusive.

The reality is that virtually nobody would cross the road to watch chicks play rugby or cricket other than for the one off novelty value, once those who did go and watch had stopped laughing they would soon realise that the standard is crap and not bother going again.

Shall we “force” women to sit on boards, even if they do not want to, even if they have no ability ?

Your a woman, or a broken feminised man, with that kind of logic. Either way, we don’t want people like you in any position of influence. Fuck you cry-baby.

Farrar’s diversity argument is even sillier – diversity of skills and opinions has nothing much to do with diversity of sex organs. In fact it is sexist to suggest they are necessarily related.

As for women playing for the All Blacks, don’t forget that age and disability are also prohibited grounds for discrimination. So you would need a geriatric flanker in a wheelchair as well.

I agree that women should be on the NZRU board,……..when women are in the All Blacks!

I suggest another, seeing as how it’s picking an arbitrary standard, idea – make the proportion equivalent to the proportion of games won by Womens teams compared to Mens.

Oh look, the NZ Womens Rugby team wins a higher proportion of games than the Mens therefore it only makes sense more women than men should be on the board.

Obviously there’s a lot of logical fallacies in this sort of thinking, as there are obviously entrenched attitudes that marginalise womens participation in decision making.

Care or not if one pleases but don’t try and pretend it’s a just situation on the basis of fatuous self serving selective justifications.

You’d like to see Federer doing Sharapova? Oooo… *playing* Sharapova. Sorry, my bad.

Cos I’d want tickets to that on Rod Laver Arena… youknowwhatI’msayin!! See some long rallies…. break point…. game, set and match to… well, love is a game where both players win. Sharapova shrieks would be something biblical!!

NZRFU certainly could use some more bra wearing brass. I suggest Georgina Beyer.

In future all tries should be shared equally between all of the players.

There should not be separate competitions for women. Women should make the grade, competing with men, in ALL sports. This will effectively wipe out womens participation in top level sport, but it is “equality”. If Dr Judy McGregor had any credibility she would be demanding that. But of course she is not wanting equality at all, same as most feminist harpies are not. She is not even pro-women, she is simply anti-men.

I would like to see Federer playing Sharapova!

Good idea. Lets start with the welfare state.