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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/general_debate_18_january_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1081789</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about that Sydney Big Day Out?  Auckland looking forward to its turn, oh wait :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about that Sydney Big Day Out?  Auckland looking forward to its turn, oh wait <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/general_debate_18_january_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1081776</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bereal, no western society has an immigration policy for Moslems only. They have immigration policies - are they better off for having them? And if so, not applying religious discrimination in the ranking of immigrants?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bereal, no western society has an immigration policy for Moslems only. They have immigration policies &#8211; are they better off for having them? And if so, not applying religious discrimination in the ranking of immigrants?</p>
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		<title>By: axeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>axeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Climate Science “A Fairy Tale That’s Rich In Fantasy…Spook Watching” 

Awww what a shame GRIEF is away from his desk for a while (and for a change!). He would be really interested in German meteorologist Dr. Wolfgang Thüne &#039;s harsh criticism at alarmist science.

http://notrickszone.com/2013/01/17/veteran-german-meteorologist-calls-climate-science-a-fairy-tale-thats-rich-in-fantasy-spook-watching/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate Science “A Fairy Tale That’s Rich In Fantasy…Spook Watching” </p>
<p>Awww what a shame GRIEF is away from his desk for a while (and for a change!). He would be really interested in German meteorologist Dr. Wolfgang Thüne &#8216;s harsh criticism at alarmist science.</p>
<p><a href="http://notrickszone.com/2013/01/17/veteran-german-meteorologist-calls-climate-science-a-fairy-tale-thats-rich-in-fantasy-spook-watching/" rel="nofollow">http://notrickszone.com/2013/01/17/veteran-german-meteorologist-calls-climate-science-a-fairy-tale-thats-rich-in-fantasy-spook-watching/</a></p>
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		<title>By: bereal</title>
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		<dc:creator>bereal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just checking in to see if there were any takers prepared to attempt to answer any of the three
questions i posed @ 5.50 today regarding muslim immigration to New Zealand.

Well done nasska you appear to be the only one prepared to have a crack.

Pity there were no handwringing apologist muslim lovers to step up to the plate, i was hoping
for a good argument. 
i guess that means that when the insanity of importing muslims is couched in such simple terms
it&#039;s patently indefensible.

Oh well, i might try again another day.

Must run now, don&#039;t want to miss Kath and Kim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checking in to see if there were any takers prepared to attempt to answer any of the three<br />
questions i posed @ 5.50 today regarding muslim immigration to New Zealand.</p>
<p>Well done nasska you appear to be the only one prepared to have a crack.</p>
<p>Pity there were no handwringing apologist muslim lovers to step up to the plate, i was hoping<br />
for a good argument.<br />
i guess that means that when the insanity of importing muslims is couched in such simple terms<br />
it&#8217;s patently indefensible.</p>
<p>Oh well, i might try again another day.</p>
<p>Must run now, don&#8217;t want to miss Kath and Kim.</p>
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		<title>By: Azeraph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azeraph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nasska (5,490) Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 9:24 pm 

I can only agree but i like to rely on my eye&#039;s and the up and coming generations have their own ideas, too bad that group in the states are trying to redefine prayer from a deity to the universe. Strange people, in the end it looks like they want to adopt the structure of the church system but change it with american atheist views.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nasska (5,490) Says:<br />
January 18th, 2013 at 9:24 pm </p>
<p>I can only agree but i like to rely on my eye&#8217;s and the up and coming generations have their own ideas, too bad that group in the states are trying to redefine prayer from a deity to the universe. Strange people, in the end it looks like they want to adopt the structure of the church system but change it with american atheist views.</p>
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		<title>By: nasska</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Azeraph

I don&#039;t think we could even try to have a stab at the numbers.  Fortunately the census is not far off but it is my bet that the results will be an eye opener.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azeraph</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we could even try to have a stab at the numbers.  Fortunately the census is not far off but it is my bet that the results will be an eye opener.</p>
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		<title>By: Azeraph</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/general_debate_18_january_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1081687</link>
		<dc:creator>Azeraph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nasska (5,489) Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:33 pm 

You got the numbers that are not based on baby baptism? Have you looked at the malls on Sunday&#039;s and the local churches here?

I don&#039;t know about you but i don&#039;t see the conservative party gaining a lot of attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nasska (5,489) Says:<br />
January 18th, 2013 at 8:33 pm </p>
<p>You got the numbers that are not based on baby baptism? Have you looked at the malls on Sunday&#8217;s and the local churches here?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you but i don&#8217;t see the conservative party gaining a lot of attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A joke from somewhere that is best left nameless (I think the first comment was serious):
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Afewknowthetruth&lt;/strong&gt;

You need to learn the read properly, Gormless.
By 2015: breakdown of current economic arrangements.
By 2020: most things people currently take for granted become unavailable.
By 2025: complete collapse of the industrial system.
By 2060: the Earth become largely uninhabitable for humans. (Could be as early as 2035).

&lt;strong&gt;ropata&lt;/strong&gt;

2012 Quetzalcoatl
2013 Flying Saucers
2014 Antichrist takes over
2015 Jesus shows up to smite everyone (except Israel)
2016 Cthulhu??
2017 Morgoth??
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A joke from somewhere that is best left nameless (I think the first comment was serious):</p>
<blockquote><p>
<strong>Afewknowthetruth</strong></p>
<p>You need to learn the read properly, Gormless.<br />
By 2015: breakdown of current economic arrangements.<br />
By 2020: most things people currently take for granted become unavailable.<br />
By 2025: complete collapse of the industrial system.<br />
By 2060: the Earth become largely uninhabitable for humans. (Could be as early as 2035).</p>
<p><strong>ropata</strong></p>
<p>2012 Quetzalcoatl<br />
2013 Flying Saucers<br />
2014 Antichrist takes over<br />
2015 Jesus shows up to smite everyone (except Israel)<br />
2016 Cthulhu??<br />
2017 Morgoth??
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The little echo chamber of secularism - hey ho, you don&#039;t even realize how badly you have been sucked in by those who would lord it over you

FWIW - probably way too subtle for you people 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZFfvtIjSJE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The little echo chamber of secularism &#8211; hey ho, you don&#8217;t even realize how badly you have been sucked in by those who would lord it over you</p>
<p>FWIW &#8211; probably way too subtle for you people </p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='560' height='345' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/yZFfvtIjSJE?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: nasska</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Longknives

Thanks for the link.....photos like those make history come alive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Longknives</p>
<p>Thanks for the link&#8230;..photos like those make history come alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Longknives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Longknives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool. 

http://thechive.com/2013/01/17/great-and-important-historical-photographs-23-photos/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. </p>
<p><a href="http://thechive.com/2013/01/17/great-and-important-historical-photographs-23-photos/" rel="nofollow">http://thechive.com/2013/01/17/great-and-important-historical-photographs-23-photos/</a></p>
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		<title>By: nasska</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/general_debate_18_january_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1081657</link>
		<dc:creator>nasska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Azeraph

Islam certainly &amp; practically only they &amp; the Xtians are likely to have the numbers to attempt to sway a government&#039;s thinking.

But there is no shortage of boutique groups of religious nutters who would love to dictate our thoughts &amp; actions. There is also no end of venal political parties who would cater to their demands in exchange for their votes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azeraph</p>
<p>Islam certainly &amp; practically only they &amp; the Xtians are likely to have the numbers to attempt to sway a government&#8217;s thinking.</p>
<p>But there is no shortage of boutique groups of religious nutters who would love to dictate our thoughts &amp; actions. There is also no end of venal political parties who would cater to their demands in exchange for their votes.</p>
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		<title>By: mikenmild</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikenmild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most religions aspire to be a part, if not the whole, of government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most religions aspire to be a part, if not the whole, of government.</p>
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		<title>By: Azeraph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azeraph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nasska (5,487) Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 8:14 pm 

What other religions? Islam? 

I have Christian beliefs but i&#039;m just like a lot of people here, not a follower. Though i personally think the Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses come close to being what it was meant to be. Separate from governance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nasska (5,487) Says:<br />
January 18th, 2013 at 8:14 pm </p>
<p>What other religions? Islam? </p>
<p>I have Christian beliefs but i&#8217;m just like a lot of people here, not a follower. Though i personally think the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses come close to being what it was meant to be. Separate from governance.</p>
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		<title>By: nasska</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Azeraph

Make sure you include the rest of the religious groups along with the Christians.  They&#039;re a big enough pain in the neck but others are worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azeraph</p>
<p>Make sure you include the rest of the religious groups along with the Christians.  They&#8217;re a big enough pain in the neck but others are worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Azeraph</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/general_debate_18_january_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1081646</link>
		<dc:creator>Azeraph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei (1,642) Says:
January 18th, 2013 at 7:33 pm 

Look at the states, regardless of what people think they are a multicultural mash of peoples and good for them and in our own way we are too but the only way our countries will survive is if we stay secular, Christianity was never meant to be a part of government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei (1,642) Says:<br />
January 18th, 2013 at 7:33 pm </p>
<p>Look at the states, regardless of what people think they are a multicultural mash of peoples and good for them and in our own way we are too but the only way our countries will survive is if we stay secular, Christianity was never meant to be a part of government.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (North Shore)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (North Shore)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hone Harawera was going to court to ban the word &quot;blacklisted&quot;.

 

The judge said to him: &quot;please state your case.&quot;

 

He said, &quot;This racist word is demoralising for the maoris of this country!

Why put people on a list just because they&#039;re maori, why not put pakeha on a

list also?&quot;.

 

The judge answered him: &quot;They are on a list, they are called &quot;Tax payers&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hone Harawera was going to court to ban the word &#8220;blacklisted&#8221;.</p>
<p>The judge said to him: &#8220;please state your case.&#8221;</p>
<p>He said, &#8220;This racist word is demoralising for the maoris of this country!</p>
<p>Why put people on a list just because they&#8217;re maori, why not put pakeha on a</p>
<p>list also?&#8221;.</p>
<p>The judge answered him: &#8220;They are on a list, they are called &#8220;Tax payers&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: nasska</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While staying in South Auckland recently a bloke chatted up a bird at a local bar &amp; soon  they found themselves back in his motel room.

Immediately, he started rubbing his hands all over her body.

&quot;Ooh,&quot; she giggled, &quot;seems like we&#039;re having it rough tonight.&quot;

&quot;No,&quot; he replied, &quot;I&#039;m just making sure you&#039;re not hiding any weapons.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While staying in South Auckland recently a bloke chatted up a bird at a local bar &amp; soon  they found themselves back in his motel room.</p>
<p>Immediately, he started rubbing his hands all over her body.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ooh,&#8221; she giggled, &#8220;seems like we&#8217;re having it rough tonight.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No,&#8221; he replied, &#8220;I&#8217;m just making sure you&#8217;re not hiding any weapons.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/general_debate_18_january_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1081635</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is &quot;the dominant culture&quot;?

Is it a good thing for &quot;the dominant culture&quot; to dominate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is &#8220;the dominant culture&#8221;?</p>
<p>Is it a good thing for &#8220;the dominant culture&#8221; to dominate?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Which means we must be multicultural then?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yep lots of dissension, which apparently is a jolly good thing

The real point of  &quot;multiculturalism&quot; of course is to undermine the dominant culture so that it can be replaced with brave new one the secularists have in mind

What Pol Pot tried to do but by stealth]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Which means we must be multicultural then?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep lots of dissension, which apparently is a jolly good thing</p>
<p>The real point of  &#8220;multiculturalism&#8221; of course is to undermine the dominant culture so that it can be replaced with brave new one the secularists have in mind</p>
<p>What Pol Pot tried to do but by stealth</p>
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