Comments on: Over-stating the case

By: SPC

SPC — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:51:20 +0000

The apparent demise is because of the decline in party membership.

And the visit to Ratana is more about trying to win the seat of the retiring sitting MP.

By: scrubone

scrubone — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:29:56 +0000

pq: to try to make a coherent point, there’s a good chap.

By: rg

rg — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:19:22 +0000

The end of the ACT Party is continually reported and has been since its inception. Every commentator has got it wrong. Even the polling organisations have been massively inaccurate when poling about ACT. I don’t recall this blog picking up journalists on this.

By: PaulL

PaulL — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:57:21 +0000

I would have thought it’d be a bit premature to assume the personality cult still had a leader come next election. How old will he be? He hasn’t exactly lived a healthy life.

By: Pete George

Pete George — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:22:37 +0000

“Overstating the case”…

You will get down and beg Farrar and all of you NZ Nat, you will beg for the 7%.

Until a couple of weeks before the last election it was very uncertain whether “7%” would come close to 5% and be a possible player (it wasn’t even considered).

So it’s a bit premature being confident about 7% still being 7% and being essential for a governing coalition in nearly two years time.

By: pq

pq — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:06:00 +0000

I think Maori voites will survive separately.
but Farrar just can’t help himself.
he says :
”
All parties have leadership challenges, except those which are personality cults. You don’t label a party as having apparently demised, just because of one.
”
You will get down and beg Farrar and all of you NZ Nat, you will beg for the 7%.
Where you think you can coalition Farrar, get real and get real now

By: Warren Murray

Warren Murray — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:02:15 +0000

Perhaps it isa little premature, but when we look back at the leadership change in Act, it now appears to have started the demise of that party.

Looking at the Maori Party, credit for idenitfying a need for a succession plan, not to mention a gap in its own rules for changing leaders. But in light of predation from Mana, Sharples looking to Harawira to bolster his own position, Turia retiring and Flavel’s ambition, perhaps the Maori Party does face its demise.

By: Colville

Colville — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:59:40 +0000

Manolo. I hope the Maori party thrives. There are 235 000 Maori voters and I prefere that they elect MP’s that are rational and that the Right can have a discussion with rather than the likes of the loon Hatfield.

By: BeaB

BeaB — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:48:01 +0000

I was astounded last night to hear the TV1 reporters say John Key’s rather mild response to criticism from the Labour Party as a ‘cheap shot’! Eh?

When did they start editorialising? Is this part of Shearer’s strategy? To have TV1 run his defence? I didn’t of course hear any comment on his lame and insane policies.

By: Manolo

Manolo — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:29:59 +0000

For the first time, I do hope the socialist leader is right and the racist Maori Party dies of a sudden detah.

By: TripeWryter

TripeWryter — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:29:05 +0000

And what is ‘apparent’? Does Chapman know or not?

A sub-editorial look at this story might have been useful.

By: Pete George

Pete George — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:21:40 +0000

Shearer's apparent demise was overstated last year, and the same is trying to do it again. With some confusion. Yesterday 'Zetetic' posted a promotion of the Green housing policy and was critical of Labour's version. He said "Nice one, Metiria. Got my vote." Today Zetetic seems to be demanding a vote on Labour's leadership as a party member and said "What loyal party member could not swing in behind his leadership?" Some loyalty. Pseudonym confusion is making a farce of party democracy. Zetetic’s loyalty and pseudonym confusion

By: RRM

RRM — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:03:01 +0000

You don’t label a party as having apparently demised, just because of one [leadership challenge].

At the risk of appearing a pedant, you shouldn’t label a party as having apparently demised, at all!