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	<title>Comments on: Pets in bars and cafes</title>
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		<title>By: Judith</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1081832</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d rather have a drink in the company of my dog, than many people who drink in bars. 

My dog doesn&#039;t spew on them, swear at them, smell as bad as they do, abuse people, or hit them (well maybe if they&#039;re eating a steak he may give them the &#039;eye&#039;). I&#039;ve seen more people bite other people, than I have seen dogs bite people.   My dog knows he can&#039;t drive a car so doesn&#039;t attempt to no matter how much he&#039;s had to drink,  doesn&#039;t start a fight if someone calls him a mongrel, even though he&#039;s not one, and is a hell of a lot cuter than most bar patrons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather have a drink in the company of my dog, than many people who drink in bars. </p>
<p>My dog doesn&#8217;t spew on them, swear at them, smell as bad as they do, abuse people, or hit them (well maybe if they&#8217;re eating a steak he may give them the &#8216;eye&#8217;). I&#8217;ve seen more people bite other people, than I have seen dogs bite people.   My dog knows he can&#8217;t drive a car so doesn&#8217;t attempt to no matter how much he&#8217;s had to drink,  doesn&#8217;t start a fight if someone calls him a mongrel, even though he&#8217;s not one, and is a hell of a lot cuter than most bar patrons.</p>
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		<title>By: TripeWryter</title>
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		<dc:creator>TripeWryter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Thrash at 6.14am:

Your first two sentences: bang-on. 

Especially the bit about their being taken out the back and shot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Thrash at 6.14am:</p>
<p>Your first two sentences: bang-on. </p>
<p>Especially the bit about their being taken out the back and shot.</p>
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		<title>By: fruitshop</title>
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		<dc:creator>fruitshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Make it mandatory for &quot;Pets Allowed&quot; eating places to put up a clear sign at the entrance - then let the market decide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make it mandatory for &#8220;Pets Allowed&#8221; eating places to put up a clear sign at the entrance &#8211; then let the market decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrash Cardiom</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1080658</link>
		<dc:creator>Thrash Cardiom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;All the complaints by posters here about dogs’ habits apply equally, if not more so, to babies and children.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Most babies and children grow out of it.  Dogs never do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>All the complaints by posters here about dogs’ habits apply equally, if not more so, to babies and children.</p></blockquote>
<p>Most babies and children grow out of it.  Dogs never do.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the complaints by posters here about dogs&#039; habits apply equally, if not more so, to babies and children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the complaints by posters here about dogs&#8217; habits apply equally, if not more so, to babies and children.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Years ago in England my dogs always enjoyed a drink in the Pub - nobody objected to any dogs, as long as they did not get into a scrap, then like humans they get booted out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago in England my dogs always enjoyed a drink in the Pub &#8211; nobody objected to any dogs, as long as they did not get into a scrap, then like humans they get booted out.</p>
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		<title>By: scrubone</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1080400</link>
		<dc:creator>scrubone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Dogs are substitute children and grandchildren.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They can be good companions, but the people who actually call them their children make me question their sanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Dogs are substitute children and grandchildren.</p></blockquote>
<p>They can be good companions, but the people who actually call them their children make me question their sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: scrubone</title>
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		<dc:creator>scrubone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was suprised at the vitrol against dogs on the stuff story, that Thrash has demonstrated here.

I agree it depends on the dog. As a broad principle, they&#039;re best kept out but if a bar owner wants to cater for that market he can do so - he just won&#039;t be catering for another side of the market.

Usual deal, if you don&#039;t like it, go elsewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was suprised at the vitrol against dogs on the stuff story, that Thrash has demonstrated here.</p>
<p>I agree it depends on the dog. As a broad principle, they&#8217;re best kept out but if a bar owner wants to cater for that market he can do so &#8211; he just won&#8217;t be catering for another side of the market.</p>
<p>Usual deal, if you don&#8217;t like it, go elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrash Cardiom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrash Cardiom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dogs are walking shit machines.  Personally, I think the only good dog is a working dog. All others should be taken out the back and shot.

They mostly smell bad and if they don&#039;t, they roll in something disgusting to ensure they do.  I&#039;d prefer not to have them allowed into bars/restaurants.

That said, my partner owns a dog.  She tries to tell me that it is mine as well but I&#039;m having none of that.  The beast is all hers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogs are walking shit machines.  Personally, I think the only good dog is a working dog. All others should be taken out the back and shot.</p>
<p>They mostly smell bad and if they don&#8217;t, they roll in something disgusting to ensure they do.  I&#8217;d prefer not to have them allowed into bars/restaurants.</p>
<p>That said, my partner owns a dog.  She tries to tell me that it is mine as well but I&#8217;m having none of that.  The beast is all hers.</p>
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		<title>By: joana</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1080374</link>
		<dc:creator>joana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dogs are substitute children and grandchildren..Does anyone have the facts on the diseases they carry?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogs are substitute children and grandchildren..Does anyone have the facts on the diseases they carry?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1080306</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We allow house-trained dogs in our holiday house and invariably find their owners considerate and excellent guests.  We also regularly eat at the Whangarei Information Centre in the park where there are outdoor seats, dog bowls and exercise for our own dog on a long trip.

Generally of course nasty people have nasty animals and people who care for their animals also care for people. But a lot of city folk have little contact with the natural world nowadays and are scared of animals - not surprising when they see a lot of dogs whose owners regard them as defensive weapons.

It&#039;s a sensible law change and a welcome reinstatement of common sense and property rights over bureaucratic control freaks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We allow house-trained dogs in our holiday house and invariably find their owners considerate and excellent guests.  We also regularly eat at the Whangarei Information Centre in the park where there are outdoor seats, dog bowls and exercise for our own dog on a long trip.</p>
<p>Generally of course nasty people have nasty animals and people who care for their animals also care for people. But a lot of city folk have little contact with the natural world nowadays and are scared of animals &#8211; not surprising when they see a lot of dogs whose owners regard them as defensive weapons.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sensible law change and a welcome reinstatement of common sense and property rights over bureaucratic control freaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (North Shore)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (North Shore)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dogs are for those who HUNT. 
Trendsetter dogs are not welcome at:
Sunday Markets
The beach after 9 am
On buses (hidden in the handbag)
On my property
The Viaduct and Wyndam

Tough Guy Dogs are just not welcome in NZ

Working dogs are doing a job and should be payed, coz they do more work than some of the lazy dysfunctional tough guys do with the ridgey
Oh yeah, pick up your dog&#039;s shit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogs are for those who HUNT.<br />
Trendsetter dogs are not welcome at:<br />
Sunday Markets<br />
The beach after 9 am<br />
On buses (hidden in the handbag)<br />
On my property<br />
The Viaduct and Wyndam</p>
<p>Tough Guy Dogs are just not welcome in NZ</p>
<p>Working dogs are doing a job and should be payed, coz they do more work than some of the lazy dysfunctional tough guys do with the ridgey<br />
Oh yeah, pick up your dog&#8217;s shit</p>
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		<title>By: Monique Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1080218</link>
		<dc:creator>Monique Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn near every shop or restaurant you go into in San Francisco has a canine contingent. I was shopping on Christmas Eve at Sonoma Williams, (an American kitchen shop) and sho&#039; &#039;nuff every second customer had a handbag mutt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn near every shop or restaurant you go into in San Francisco has a canine contingent. I was shopping on Christmas Eve at Sonoma Williams, (an American kitchen shop) and sho&#8217; &#8217;nuff every second customer had a handbag mutt.</p>
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		<title>By: tristanb</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1080196</link>
		<dc:creator>tristanb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even as we speak, hipsters, douchebags and wankers take their dogs with them to cafes along Jervois and Ponsonby Roads in Auckland and let them lap water from a dog bowl. I don&#039;t really mind this.

And if some bar has a pet dog or cat, I don&#039;t really care either. I don&#039;t even care if a proportion of restaurants become &quot;dog-friendly&quot; and people bring their friendly family dog.

What I&#039;m not looking forward to, is when some aggressive violent piece of shit mongrel comes into the local Chinese takeaways with his staffy-cross bred-to-fight shitbag on a choker chain, and demands that &quot;&lt;b&gt;it&#039;s my rights&lt;/b&gt;&quot; to bring the dog into the restaurant despite the protestations of the owner, and the uncomfortable glances of the other patrons.

Restaurants, by default, should be dog-free, and dogs should only be allowed if the place is established as a dog-friendly business.

And then, as others have implied, there&#039;s the question of what the hell National is doing is parliament. Perhaps they would like to tackle issues surrounding house colour, or ergonomic chairs next.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even as we speak, hipsters, douchebags and wankers take their dogs with them to cafes along Jervois and Ponsonby Roads in Auckland and let them lap water from a dog bowl. I don&#8217;t really mind this.</p>
<p>And if some bar has a pet dog or cat, I don&#8217;t really care either. I don&#8217;t even care if a proportion of restaurants become &#8220;dog-friendly&#8221; and people bring their friendly family dog.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m not looking forward to, is when some aggressive violent piece of shit mongrel comes into the local Chinese takeaways with his staffy-cross bred-to-fight shitbag on a choker chain, and demands that &#8220;<b>it&#8217;s my rights</b>&#8221; to bring the dog into the restaurant despite the protestations of the owner, and the uncomfortable glances of the other patrons.</p>
<p>Restaurants, by default, should be dog-free, and dogs should only be allowed if the place is established as a dog-friendly business.</p>
<p>And then, as others have implied, there&#8217;s the question of what the hell National is doing is parliament. Perhaps they would like to tackle issues surrounding house colour, or ergonomic chairs next.</p>
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		<title>By: gazzmaniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>gazzmaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no love for dogs whatsoever.  They cause me to get bad hayfever for which I need medication to control.
If a bar or cafe owner makes their premesis &quot;Dog Friendly&quot; then I just won&#039;t go there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no love for dogs whatsoever.  They cause me to get bad hayfever for which I need medication to control.<br />
If a bar or cafe owner makes their premesis &#8220;Dog Friendly&#8221; then I just won&#8217;t go there.</p>
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		<title>By: thor42</title>
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		<dc:creator>thor42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d rather the damned things were kept OUT of bars. 
Can you imagine the bloody nuisance that a dog sprawled on the floor would be in a packed bar, with people trying to carry jugs etc back and forth? Sounds like a recipe for chaos!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather the damned things were kept OUT of bars.<br />
Can you imagine the bloody nuisance that a dog sprawled on the floor would be in a packed bar, with people trying to carry jugs etc back and forth? Sounds like a recipe for chaos!</p>
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		<title>By: joana</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1080177</link>
		<dc:creator>joana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is UK immigrants who are pushing this in CHCH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is UK immigrants who are pushing this in CHCH.</p>
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		<title>By: nickb</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1080174</link>
		<dc:creator>nickb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The National Party - focusing on the things that matter since 2008]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The National Party &#8211; focusing on the things that matter since 2008</p>
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		<title>By: beautox</title>
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		<dc:creator>beautox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dogs have a long proud tradition of being in bars. Men have traditionally used the excuse &quot;just out to walk the dog&quot; to kill two birds with one stone.

Fortunately you can stay at home if you don&#039;t like it. Where you belong...  (if you can assert  that dogs belong at home, then I can equally well assert that you belong at home).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogs have a long proud tradition of being in bars. Men have traditionally used the excuse &#8220;just out to walk the dog&#8221; to kill two birds with one stone.</p>
<p>Fortunately you can stay at home if you don&#8217;t like it. Where you belong&#8230;  (if you can assert  that dogs belong at home, then I can equally well assert that you belong at home).</p>
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		<title>By: TripeWryter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/pets_in_bars_and_cafes.html/comment-page-1#comment-1080113</link>
		<dc:creator>TripeWryter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dogs - unless they&#039;re for blind people - have no place in bars.

Why do dog-owners want to foist their bloody mutts on the rest of us? Can&#039;t they keep them at home, where they belong?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogs &#8211; unless they&#8217;re for blind people &#8211; have no place in bars.</p>
<p>Why do dog-owners want to foist their bloody mutts on the rest of us? Can&#8217;t they keep them at home, where they belong?</p>
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