It won’t come down to just BCR factor. It could well be decided by the DMVTFAFTSSTATFPOSSBSNCR factor.

Oh, sorry… that needs to be spelled out as: Divert My Vehicle The Fuck Away From Those Shitarse Small Towns And That Fucking Piece Of Shit Slow Bollocks Snaking Nightmare Coastline Road factor.

Tax and transport
its ok saying there is a discrepancy in direct payment by freight company’s to the roading fund
With out road freight we go broke in days not years
The indirect benefit of road freight is far more than the direct cost on roading infrastructure

Some enjoyable comments too….

So… if you support TG being built… does that give you a right wing stance on the issue? Does that make you a conservative?

Lots of NZders want to live in one place and work some distance away. That’s what Transmission Gully is about.

The Greenies would be better off tying to convince people to 1) live closer to work 2) Live in higher density housing arrangements, like townhouses, apartments etc.

What advantage does NZ have? The one thing that it does have is space. Greenery. Coastline. Most people don’t live on top of each other. Cities aren’t jammed like the Tokyo subway at home time. So… in-keeping with that theme… Wellingtonians want to live on the Kapiti Coast and drive south to work. I would say catch the train. Not enough carriges and tracks. Even if there were… the culture is to take your own car. I saw a Tui sticker on a car the other day…something like… ‘I’d rather be taking the bus. Yeah right.’ Sums up the attitude. I hate using public transport myself and I was a bus driver…. haha. Lots of dumbarse unpleasant weirdo losers use it.

*“BANANA (build absolutely nothing anywhere never again) syndrome approach.”

Double negative.*

It’s catchier without adding commas etc as I expect you must full well know. Acronyms aren’t always grammatically correct as I’m sure you’re aware of. The intelligent reader knows to instantly see it as ‘build absolutely nothing anywhere, never build anything ever again’. Some poetic license is obviously taken.

Whatever turns you on man…..

and the country is broke. That’s criminal and really shows how govts are really taking us all to the cleaners.

Then blaming the electorate!!

Third party representation now and punish the old elitist irrelevant paradigm

I’d be more interested in an argument that used real facts. For instance I have heard that the cost of the damage to our roads caused by trucks is not covered by the RUC. If true, then in essence commuters and private vehicle use in general are subsiding trucking companies through their petrol tax. Sure we’d end up paying more in the cost of consumables if RUC’s reflected the damage done, but it would reduce any bias towards trucking / roads over alternatives (e.g. rail, coastal shipping).

I’d support such an argument if indeed the facts were there to back it up. I’d also be in favour of congestion charging on busy roads in our major centres during peak hours, to help subsidise improvements to road and rail infrastructure and promote the use of alternatives for commuters such as using public transport, cycling/ walking and encouraging parents not to drive their kids to school during peak times. The little darlings can get some exercise.

I hope she is not trying to get out of Wellington after an Earthquake where only two roads are available.

The Greens really have earned their “loony Greens” nickname.

Kedgley’s assertion that the steep gradient will deter use is nonsense and, with modern trucks, the proposed grades are not an issue.

Equally, her scaremongering over seismic risk is hopelessly out of context. Most of New Zealand is subject to seismic risk simply because our land mass is part of the subduction zone of the Pacific tectonic plate. On this basis, most of our towns and cities would never have been built.

Kedgley acknowledges that this project has been on the backburner for decades. Her assertion that taxpayers will end up subsidising every road commuter to the tune of $18 a day is a gross distortion of reality.

I.e. an outright lie.

Worse, until fairly recently it was petrol purchasers (i.e. road users) who were being ripped off through the money going into general taxation instead of roads.

So she could hardly be further from the truth.