Shearer’s state of the nation speech

January 27th, 2013 at 2:24 pm by David Farrar

His speech is here. Some extracts:

The hands-off, simply leave it to the market approach has failed all over the world.

We are on the cusp of a new era – when new thinking and leadership is needed to build wealth we can all share in.

The world has changed. National hasn’t. It’s stuck in the past.

We need a government that recognises times have changed.

We need a Government that finds the courage to act, not better excuses for why we can’t.

We need a government prepared to stand up for hardworking forgotten Kiwis.

We need a smart, hands-on Government. 

As opposed to a stupid hands-on Government?

As I blogged a few days ago, hands on and hands off are labels which mean little in today’s world. The current Government is intervening all over the place in an attempt to help foster stronger economic growth.

What the focus should be on is the details of what each party proposes as inteventions, not stupid slogans from the 70s.

It’s about getting our priorities right, being thrifty about our economy.

Bringing our debt under control.

Which is why Labour has criticised every single spending cut of the last four years.

We’ll make changes to monetary policy so that our job-creating businesses aren’t undermined by our exchange rate.

A more subtle version of the Greens pledge to print more money.

I’ve spoken of a clean, green, clever economy many times.

The focus groups must like that phase.

Not a single specific new initiative. Just a recital of last year’s announcements and a new slogan about hands-on vs hands-off.

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52 Responses to “Shearer’s state of the nation speech”

  1. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    Here are the highlights of Shearer’s speech.

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  2. Fox (206 comments) says:

    Where did his speechwriter get this stuff? From the ‘Great Book Of Political Cliches’?

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  3. SPC (5,664 comments) says:

    I suppose the word active is too middle class, the term activist too Green and only “hands on” implies a labouring party true to itself.

    The question is whether a Labour led government would be good with its hands or not.

    Maybe the should just use the term, a Labour government working to make New Zealand work for all of its people.

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  4. Keeping Stock (9,371 comments) says:

    Why is Shearer bothering with a State of the Nation speech? He’s Leader of the Opposition FFS, the next election is still almost two years away, and any policy ideas that Labour comes up with now are pie-in-the-sky because opposition parties have no power to implement policy (unless by Member’s Bill).

    And anyway, most of what Labour is proposing got a thumbs-down from 73% of the electorate just over a year ago. It’s same-old-same-old.

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  5. tvb (4,553 comments) says:

    There are plenty examples of stupid government interventions and god knows nz has had it’s share. I have no confidence that a labour government with all its factions supported by the greens who oppose all development will be a good hands on government.

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  6. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    Pfft. What a tool.

    Fox

    Out of his arse I imagine.

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  7. Viking2 (11,665 comments) says:

    Is there much of a difference btween this speech and another one a few days ago.
    Nah not really. All bravado hot air and bullshit. Both of them

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  8. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    Pushing NEW ERA – HANDS ON GOVERNMENT strectches credibility. FFS, a new era?

    It’ll be interesting to see the viedo of the speech when they put it online. On paper it oodles of repetitive rhetoric, hapless and heartless.

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  9. F E Smith (3,307 comments) says:

    The hands-off, simply leave it to the market approach has failed all over the world.

    Rubbish.  The fact is that nobody has actually tried it.  Even the sub-prime debacle was caused by government intervention in good banking practices. 

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  10. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    Russel is back on deck with a strange reference to the hands-on narrative:

    Russel Norman ‏@RusselNorman
    Nats attack hands-on approach to economic policy and also practice it randomly. #noidea

    I have no idea if he’s contradicting Shearer or attacking National, maybe trying both at once.

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  11. SPC (5,664 comments) says:

    FE Smith, the banks were under-capitalised for the amount of risk they were taking, sub-prime loans or no sub-prime loans.

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  12. hamnidaV2 (247 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  13. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    the build up to the next election should be fascinating .. The Melons rate themselves to get more seats and those seats have to come from their partners, Labour. Labour want to get as many seats as they can and they come from their partners, the Melons AND the Maori Party. Will be funny as a fart watching the Melons and Labour trying to shaft each other but still be friends.

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  14. F E Smith (3,307 comments) says:

    SPC,

    the genesis of the sub-prime problem has been traced back to law changes by US Democratic party law makers and the US Government’s unwarranted involvement in the mortgage market.

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  15. Reid (16,681 comments) says:

    the banks were under-capitalised for the amount of risk they were taking, sub-prime loans or no sub-prime loans.

    http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html

    Even the sub-prime debacle was caused by government intervention in good banking practices.

    I thought it was a result of insane risk management of loans that wouldn’t under normal circumstances ever have been granted which became an industry-wide practice so any bank that didn’t do it was seen to be performing at sub-par levels. Plus the massive donations provided by the banks to the political campaign funds – Goldman Sachs is currently Obama’s biggest donor for example. Well why not when it’s taxpayer’s money they received as bail-outs anyway. And guess what the politicians turned around and did in the early noughties? That’s right, they took away things like the nasty Glass-Steagal which was “stifling innovation” and opened the door wide to idiot derivatives trading including CDOs which caused the whole thing. Have a look at the infographic in my link for the current derivative exposure, bank by bank. And ask yourself if that’s “good banking practice.”

    Not a single specific new initiative. Just a recital of last year’s announcements and a new slogan about hands-on vs hands-off.

    Perhaps they’re worried lest their fiendishly clever new policies hit the public too early and someone steals them.

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  16. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,760 comments) says:

    North Korea’s hands on approach gets missiles built and nuclear weapons tested, maybe that’s what David Shearer means?

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  17. Sam Buchanan (501 comments) says:

    Good God, that was soporific.

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  18. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    The current Government is intervening all over the place in an attempt to help foster stronger economic growth.?blockquote>

    Look how well that is going #oxymoronic

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  19. slightlyrighty (2,096 comments) says:

    The irony is that Shearer is the leader of a “hands off” opposition

    Hands Off our conservation land

    Hands Off fracking

    Hands Off employment laws

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  20. RF (1,487 comments) says:

    Dear God Hambone. Was that the great state of the Nation speech from Shearer ? What a load of crap.

    You must be weeping with shame & frustration.

    How many packets of tissues have you gone through now.

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  21. krazykiwi (8,040 comments) says:

    When a 5 year old girl falls asleep in class because she had no breakfast before she left home, it’s time to act. Labour will put food in schools, to make sure all our kids get the same chance to learn.

    Because food to the key reason for all schools failing to produce Rhodes scholars.

    We’ll make changes to monetary policy so that our job-creating businesses aren’t undermined by our exchange rate.

    I have a printing press for sale. The price just went up.

    When a mum and dad work long hours but still can’t afford healthy food for their kids, it’s time to act.

    Indeed. Perhaps before government intervention the mum and dad could have a looks at how much they spend of booze, ciggies and lotto. And union fees.

    More than 70 per cent of Kiwis support our KiwiBuild programme to build 100,000 first homes.

    A lie. But who cares. Lies are the currency of politicians generally, and those on the left have made it a speciality.

    A thriving manufacturing sector is at the heart of my vision

    Move over China, India, Brazil, Bangladesh, Taiwan et al. New Zealand will make all the staff the world wants, at a price that no one is prepared to pay. That’s a communist era vision. Which failed.

    The man is deluded. Labour don’t know what they stand for, or who they represent. The fine folks gathered at the Wainioumata Rugby Club rooms must have been itching to get to the bar while they sat through this drivvel.

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  22. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    I like to think that politicians are merely misguided and I don;t like to be too harsh. But when it comes to Shearer my opinion is that he is a complete danger to the New Zealand economy and a grade A cock-smoker. Forget the sugary phrases and look at the content of what he says : HE IS WAGING WAR ON NEW ZEALAND’S ECONOMY.

    http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2013/01/shearer-wages-war-on-primary-industry.html

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  23. RF (1,487 comments) says:

    Shearer is basically asking us to trust him as he is going to win Lotto next year to pay off what he is promising. The man lacks substance and is dangerous as the misguided will believe him.

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  24. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    There’s a really good discussion going on this at The Standard. This is an example of a response there:

    NO MONIQUE THEY WANT TO TAX RICH BITCHES LIKE YOU SO PEOPLE WHO ARENT RICH BITCHES LIKE YOU CAN HAVE SCHOOLS, HOUISING AND HOSPITALS SO FUCK OFF BACK TO THE FILTHY STICKING DIRTY SHITHOLE YOU CAME FROM. WHY DO YOU WANT THE POOR ON THE STREETS????!!!!!!!!

    millsy is a Labour stalwart (one of the few there supporting Shearer) so that will probably go unmoderated.

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  25. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    But wait, there’s more.


    MONIQUE WATSON FULLY ENDORSES THE LOWERING OF EVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS. THIS WILL INCLUDE:

    1) THE DISCHARGE OF TOXIC WASTE INTO OUR RIVERS
    2) THE DISCHARGE OF TOXIC FUMES INTO OUR AIR, CAUSING SMOKING THICK SMOG AND RESPITORY ILLNESSES
    3) THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR NATIONAL PARKS FOR MINING

    SHE MUST BE DESTORYED AT ALL COSTS, ALONG WITH HER NATIONAL/ACT

    FUCKING FILTHY BITCH WHY DOES SHE WANT TO ROB THE EARTH FROM OUR CHILDREN, PERHAPS SHE SHOULD DUMP TOXIC WASTE IN HER BACK YARD

    SHE ALSO WANTS TO GET RID OF STATE HOUSING AND PUBLIC HEALTHCARE

    MEAN HORRIBLE NASTY PERSON

    And…

    Any ladies on here want to beat the crap out of Monique? Needs a good slapping that bitch.

    Camp Shearer aren’t under pressure are they? With supporters like this who needs enemies?

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  26. pq (728 comments) says:

    I am a NZ First voter,
    think here,
    I think Shearer is a good leader of NZ labour

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  27. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    Pete! Them’s classy Sheilas and Johns over at The Standard.! Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately I have a tendency to lower myself to the same standards. Legacy of a guttersnipe :)
    : You daft cunt. (Millsey) “The filthy stinking shithole I came from was abject poverty where my Mum fed four children out of a food bank. Ever eaten from a foodbank, fuckwad?

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  28. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    The result is half a damp bus ticket, after a non apology:

    Calmed down now. I think I’m going to exiled for a bit for that particular outburst.

    [B: – Glad to hear it. Was just in the process of moderating you then. Caps? nah. Bold caps? Definately no. And the level of abuse…

    In language lprent might understand, that tut tut was as heavy duty as “hello world” in GWBASIC.

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  29. Reid (16,681 comments) says:

    Legacy of a guttersnipe

    Ich bien ein guttersnipes Monique.

    (c 196whatever) @ JFK.com)

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  30. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    Guttersnipe is Straßenjunge

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  31. mikenmild (12,316 comments) says:

    Pete
    Does your obsession with The Standard really have to spill over to Kiwibloig quite so often?

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  32. duggledog (1,619 comments) says:

    Monique Watson:

    ‘and a grade A cock-smoker’

    Monique, I think I love you. Bad, but good.

    David Shearer: ‘We are on the cusp of a new era – when new thinking and leadership is needed to build wealth we can all share in’

    Ha haaa, buddy, you are on the cusp of a new leadership era except you’re on the wrong side of the cusp. All the best.

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  33. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    mikenmild – does what you think have to spill over into Kiwiblog so often?

    Whinging over what others choose to contribute seems a bit hissy. I usually manage to ignore your stuff without much difficulty.

    Monique was viciously attacked by a Labourite, I went in to support her the best way I could.

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  34. markm (117 comments) says:

    The best part was Shearer asking his colleagues to stop producing ‘ airy fairy concepts’ [Vernon Small Stuff )

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  35. Peter (1,694 comments) says:

    Whinging over what others choose to contribute seems a bit hissy. I usually manage to ignore your stuff without much difficulty.

    Yes, but many of us have experienced the Standard and it makes us feel unclean. So we don’t visit.

    Kiwiblog is refreshing. We don’t need the Standard’s murky bilge repeated here. Those who want to drown in that filth know the URL….

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  36. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    Peter, I don’t know who the “we’ is you’re speaking for, but there are quite a few here who have an interest in what goes on at TS, including DPF who posts on things there at times.

    Some at TS (including lprent) refer to Kiwiblog as ‘the sewer’ and there are often comments there about how nasty things can be here. I can’t hold their hypocrisy to account there so I do it there. I’m not sorry if some here don’t like me doing that, there’s a very diverse range of participants and preferences allowed here.

    Compared to David Bain, climate change and homosexuality/marriage reform my contributions here are relatively modest in volume.

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  37. dime (10,207 comments) says:

    monique – grey goose vodka? Dime is liking you more & more :D

    i actually strolled over to the standard. so, this dirty poor person goes postal. no ban, no demerits. they just reformatted his rants and took a few things out? hahaha

    Dime would love to go to a standard blog piss up. imagine how happy of an evening it would be? lmao

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  38. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    We has da good taste Dime, I tried to be funny and shit but they just didn’t get it. Maraschino cherry anyone?

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  39. SPC (5,664 comments) says:

    FE Smith, so sub-prime loan bad debt was caused by government, this was not the point I was questioning.

    I am just saying that the GFC would have happened regardless of sub-prime loans.

    Do you have any idea of the amount of risk banks now have compared to their capital (because of various new areas of banking created by the financial sector) to say a generation ago. Because capital requirements did not change during that period. The new Basel standards require higher capitalisation – but experts say that without regulation of the new financial instruments another crash is still possible.

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  40. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    Dime would love to go to a standard blog piss up.

    Not sure if lemons would be the most sour thing there.

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  41. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    Millsy : “If I see you try and pollute our waterways I will make sure you are punished. I will make sure you drink the water.
    My response: Punish me with a bucket bong and a bottle of Grey Goose, Millsy. I’ll see you and raise you along with the rest of my four primary school age boys.

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  42. Griff (8,419 comments) says:

    Dear dear is KBs favorite cougar admitting to inhaling
    And doing Bucky bombs
    Hard core
    I may have to admit to finding the bottom of a bottle of Grants at new years.

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  43. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (899 comments) says:

    You guys should have watched the TV tonight. Shearer is “refreshed”. I think he knows that he will be the Prime Minister in 2014 with the help of the toxic coalition of Greens-NZ First-Mana. So he is gloating around despite polling so low. National may end up with the large share of votes, but may not have enough MPs to form the government.

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  44. duggledog (1,619 comments) says:

    David Shearer:

    ‘spun excuses for why we can’t get ahead. It’s the global financial crisis, the Canterbury earthquakes, the global outlook that is the problem … There is always an excuse for why we can’t get ahead’

    Yeah fuck that shit eh Dave! I can’t wipe my ass because I’ve got no hands! Always an excuse.

    Honestly, where do they find these people. Does he read his speeches at all, or does he get the same twat who wrote the PPTA ad in the Herald where apparently we’re all still on holiday.

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  45. dime (10,207 comments) says:

    i wonder what Dimes tax rate will be under a labour/green/united/mana/nzfist govt? would hey stay under 40? or does Dime need to bleed?

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  46. Griff (8,419 comments) says:

    If the polls say green labor can form a government start transferring wealth off shore
    If you bring it back after the dollar crashes you will make up for the extra tax over their one term :lol:

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  47. dime (10,207 comments) says:

    maybe transfer company money into US. keep it there 3 years and live off salary. bring it back when tax cut happens..

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  48. Manolo (14,161 comments) says:

    The NZ economy would stumple and falter under the socialist’s government.

    Taxes would increase and the number of bludgers and welfare beneficiaries skyrocket if these economic terrorists win the election in 2014. Add the Luddites as coalition partners and the result would be catastrophic for our country.

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  49. BlairM (2,340 comments) says:

    What is amazing is not Shearer’s declaration that he wants more hands-on government, but that the media treat this announcement like it is some great new idea. Apart from four years of Lange and Douglas, Labour have always been about more hands on government.

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  50. bhudson (4,741 comments) says:

    ‘spun excuses for why we can’t get ahead. It’s the global financial crisis, the Canterbury earthquakes, the global outlook that is the problem … There is always an excuse for why we can’t get ahead’

    Nothing’s changed on Planet Labour, I see – still orbiting La-La Land

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  51. SPC (5,664 comments) says:

    Blair, all the media does at first is report what the Labour leaders address message was. A politician from the other side (in this instance English) gets to make a comment in response.

    It’s up to the public to think, so no new policy in the speech just something to re-state a distinction between Labour and National to new voters – it’s not news to anyone else. Unless it is to suggest to swinging voters that there is balance between too much and too little government action and it is time they tilted once more towards Labour.

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  52. hj (7,140 comments) says:

    John Key thinks devrloper contributions are too steep: taxpayers should subsidise the realestate/immigration industry. This is the process that the Savings Working Group think “appeatd to have worked directly against the sdjustments we needed to make as a nation” as we have s low paid work force with a limited pool of savings and the need to continually provide new infrastructure crowds out business borrowing etc

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