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	<title>Comments on: Surprised it isn&#8217;t 95% in favour</title>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1076843</link>
		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[buy here your house now, pay here your Green Labour quantitative easing tax,  pay here your capital gains tax yearly , vote Gareth Morgan pay 30% tax on everything.   flee flee  New Zealnder if you have any future flee]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buy here your house now, pay here your Green Labour quantitative easing tax,  pay here your capital gains tax yearly , vote Gareth Morgan pay 30% tax on everything.   flee flee  New Zealnder if you have any future flee</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1076224</link>
		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who will pay for it in 20 years?
Why is a low paid workforce being taxed to pay for the infrastructure of an increasing population due to external migration, When the Savings Working Group claim this process &quot;appears to have worked directly against the adjustments we needed to make as a nation&quot;?
The problem of high land prices is a problem of land values being captured by private interests. No one madeland.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who will pay for it in 20 years?<br />
Why is a low paid workforce being taxed to pay for the infrastructure of an increasing population due to external migration, When the Savings Working Group claim this process &#8220;appears to have worked directly against the adjustments we needed to make as a nation&#8221;?<br />
The problem of high land prices is a problem of land values being captured by private interests. No one madeland.</p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1076172</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lets all ride Labour&#039;s &quot;Knowledge Wave&quot; right into a brand new house.  Time to harvest those fruits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets all ride Labour&#8217;s &#8220;Knowledge Wave&#8221; right into a brand new house.  Time to harvest those fruits.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1076113</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, its cat sick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, its cat sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;People voted for WFF because it was a bribe. Voting for cheap new houses will devalue existing housing stock, once mummy and daddy middle class voter figure this bout they’ll dump out like a sack of cold cat sick. IMHO.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No they won&#039;t because Labour&#039;s policy cannot ever be enacted.  Most Kiwi homeowners will figure out this is nothing but a bunch of shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>People voted for WFF because it was a bribe. Voting for cheap new houses will devalue existing housing stock, once mummy and daddy middle class voter figure this bout they’ll dump out like a sack of cold cat sick. IMHO.</p></blockquote>
<p>No they won&#8217;t because Labour&#8217;s policy cannot ever be enacted.  Most Kiwi homeowners will figure out this is nothing but a bunch of shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Azeraph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azeraph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Key should have listened to that commission rather than Chorus&#039;s investor lobby, stagnating this area will only push people over to labour, So, What&#039;s this about? The landlord bubble? Interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key should have listened to that commission rather than Chorus&#8217;s investor lobby, stagnating this area will only push people over to labour, So, What&#8217;s this about? The landlord bubble? Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Right and Centre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Right and Centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh well... the way house prices are going in Auckland... soon even the fucking middle class twinksters will be living two whanaus to a whare.

I knew the word whare without knowing how I knew!! Fucking hell!! 

On the news: cardboard box in One Tree Hill. A snap at $750 000. Whoa.... FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!!

They summed up the NZ housing market as divided into two parts 1) Auckland 2) The Rest.

You could probably apply that to quite a few other things too... hahahahaha]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well&#8230; the way house prices are going in Auckland&#8230; soon even the fucking middle class twinksters will be living two whanaus to a whare.</p>
<p>I knew the word whare without knowing how I knew!! Fucking hell!! </p>
<p>On the news: cardboard box in One Tree Hill. A snap at $750 000. Whoa&#8230;. FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>They summed up the NZ housing market as divided into two parts 1) Auckland 2) The Rest.</p>
<p>You could probably apply that to quite a few other things too&#8230; hahahahaha</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@hi, right next to the WFF and free house lotto ticket at expense of the children who will pay for it in 20 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hi, right next to the WFF and free house lotto ticket at expense of the children who will pay for it in 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
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		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where&#039;s global warming in the Rich Mastery ( Blood-sucker ) libertarian model? Don&#039;t tell me it isn&#039;t in there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s global warming in the Rich Mastery ( Blood-sucker ) libertarian model? Don&#8217;t tell me it isn&#8217;t in there?</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075935</link>
		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have  $500.00 cash so Labour will give me a two story house with in ground pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have  $500.00 cash so Labour will give me a two story house with in ground pool.</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075930</link>
		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its  bs to say the state cant  build houses, put them in the wrong place etc. You just have to look at the crap the private ssctor builds plus the head up bum unsustainable models they base them on. Alzo google the top 100 urban thinkers and they do some pretty fancy multidimenzional stuff .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its  bs to say the state cant  build houses, put them in the wrong place etc. You just have to look at the crap the private ssctor builds plus the head up bum unsustainable models they base them on. Alzo google the top 100 urban thinkers and they do some pretty fancy multidimenzional stuff .</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People voted for WFF because it was a bribe.  Voting for cheap new houses will devalue existing housing stock, once mummy and daddy middle class voter figure this bout they&#039;ll dump out like a sack of cold cat sick. IMHO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People voted for WFF because it was a bribe.  Voting for cheap new houses will devalue existing housing stock, once mummy and daddy middle class voter figure this bout they&#8217;ll dump out like a sack of cold cat sick. IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075920</link>
		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Savings Working Group put  the  blame for high house prices &quot;fairly and squarly &quot; on the policies of sucessive governments. Politically we have an unholy  alliance between the diversity dividend/ I wanna job at UN types and those who live off unearned capital gains. Shearer  can&#039;t make an argument without crossing the rubicon which says that outsiders may not be an asset to the majority (National&#039;s political master&#039;s aside).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Savings Working Group put  the  blame for high house prices &#8220;fairly and squarly &#8221; on the policies of sucessive governments. Politically we have an unholy  alliance between the diversity dividend/ I wanna job at UN types and those who live off unearned capital gains. Shearer  can&#8217;t make an argument without crossing the rubicon which says that outsiders may not be an asset to the majority (National&#8217;s political master&#8217;s aside).</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Building more homes means mitigating a shortage that is escalating Auckland property prices and rents. 

Selling the houses built above cost means it is not possible to lose money doint this . It makes sense. 

People voted for WFF because it was good for ethir families and they will voite for this because it is good for their children being able to afford a home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Building more homes means mitigating a shortage that is escalating Auckland property prices and rents. </p>
<p>Selling the houses built above cost means it is not possible to lose money doint this . It makes sense. </p>
<p>People voted for WFF because it was good for ethir families and they will voite for this because it is good for their children being able to afford a home.</p>
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		<title>By: OneTrack</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075909</link>
		<dc:creator>OneTrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where do the families that are going to live in these 100000 houses currently live?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do the families that are going to live in these 100000 houses currently live?</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075902</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Labours latest reincarnation of the WFF bribery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labours latest reincarnation of the WFF bribery.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075884</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The poll is like
&quot;have you stopped beating your Wife? &quot;

Of course I want taxpayers to subsidised me - it&#039;s my due - I expect!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The poll is like<br />
&#8220;have you stopped beating your Wife? &#8221;</p>
<p>Of course I want taxpayers to subsidised me &#8211; it&#8217;s my due &#8211; I expect!!!</p>
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		<title>By: PhilBest</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075855</link>
		<dc:creator>PhilBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DPF said, and I agree with him:

&quot;.....The problem is their numbers simply do not and can not add up. It is a con.....&quot;

Good for you, DPF.

Peter Cresswell has written some spot-on criticism of this:

http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/search/label/Housing

He hits the nail on the head with this para:

&quot;......The nice Mr Shearer isn’t stupid, however. He reckons he has an answer to some of these obvious problems.  He has spoken to Auckland Mayor Len Brown already, he says, to take up his offer of a partnership with Auckland council to make land available.

But if Len Brown’s planners can magically make 66,666 cheap sections available to help Labour’s election chances, then why couldn’t it make cheap sections available for you and I to build our own affordable homes?

And if Mr Shearer thinks it’s appropriate to allow his 100,000 houses to be “fast-tracked” through the regulatory process, then why can’t houses and projects built by you and I?

In short and in summary, if cheap sections and “fast-tracking” were already available to everyone, then the problem of affordable housing would not be with us.  So let’s start with that now, and forget about buying everyone a pony.....&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPF said, and I agree with him:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;..The problem is their numbers simply do not and can not add up. It is a con&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Good for you, DPF.</p>
<p>Peter Cresswell has written some spot-on criticism of this:</p>
<p><a href="http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/search/label/Housing" rel="nofollow">http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/search/label/Housing</a></p>
<p>He hits the nail on the head with this para:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;The nice Mr Shearer isn’t stupid, however. He reckons he has an answer to some of these obvious problems.  He has spoken to Auckland Mayor Len Brown already, he says, to take up his offer of a partnership with Auckland council to make land available.</p>
<p>But if Len Brown’s planners can magically make 66,666 cheap sections available to help Labour’s election chances, then why couldn’t it make cheap sections available for you and I to build our own affordable homes?</p>
<p>And if Mr Shearer thinks it’s appropriate to allow his 100,000 houses to be “fast-tracked” through the regulatory process, then why can’t houses and projects built by you and I?</p>
<p>In short and in summary, if cheap sections and “fast-tracking” were already available to everyone, then the problem of affordable housing would not be with us.  So let’s start with that now, and forget about buying everyone a pony&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: burt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075843</link>
		<dc:creator>burt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ben

10 years ... That longer than a Labour govt expect to last and just enough time for them to blame National - keep up... It&#039;s about working the political cycles to your advantage - not delivering good outcomes... It&#039;s all about getting elected and then creating enough mess when your popularity fades to have mud to sling at the incoming govt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ben</p>
<p>10 years &#8230; That longer than a Labour govt expect to last and just enough time for them to blame National &#8211; keep up&#8230; It&#8217;s about working the political cycles to your advantage &#8211; not delivering good outcomes&#8230; It&#8217;s all about getting elected and then creating enough mess when your popularity fades to have mud to sling at the incoming govt.</p>
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		<title>By: burt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/surprised_it_isnt_95_in_favour.html/comment-page-1#comment-1075840</link>
		<dc:creator>burt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I look forward to National topping this with a grand socialist scheme of their own...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to National topping this with a grand socialist scheme of their own&#8230;</p>
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