Comments on: The Australian heatwave

By: hj

hj — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:54:47 +0000

Mombiot lays into Abbot in his latest..

By: Kea

Kea — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:54:56 +0000

Thanks Pete. I liked the satellite picture. It showes how small the problem is. It always helps to keep perspective.

By: pq

pq — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:51:27 +0000

cha (1,849) Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

and there had never been such a problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Thursday_(1851)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday_fires

go to

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/the_australian_heatwave.html#comment-1075158

By: Pete George

Pete George — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:33:49 +0000

Pictures from The Atlantic Wire on Aussie bushfires: Look How Scary the Australian Wildfires Have Become

By: Kea

Kea — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:27:36 +0000

but I agree that its fantastic that our PM actually wants to attend significant NZ sporting events and that he uses a helicopter to fly straight into the event rather than have his Crown car join the traffic queues and ‘progress’ inch by inch to the venue.

Thanks for the heads up.

It is also better than demanding his driver break the law and speed to the event, then deny any responsibility, and refuse to stand by the driver, like the hideous Helen Clark did.

By: Elaycee

Elaycee — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:44:54 +0000

hj:

John Key jumps in a helicopter to attend the V8 Races.

Not sure how this comment is relevant to a post on the Australian heatwave, but I agree that its fantastic that our PM actually wants to attend significant NZ sporting events and that he uses a helicopter to fly straight into the event rather than have his Crown car join the traffic queues and ‘progress’ inch by inch to the venue.

Thanks for the heads up.

By: hj

hj — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:26:08 +0000

John Key jumps in a helicopter to attend the V8 Races.

By: Rex Widerstrom

Rex Widerstrom — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:16:22 +0000

wreck1080 says:

humanity has a big problem ahead — but, a new tax is not the solution

Exactly. If my handing even more of my cash to Julia to waste on boosting her credentials at the next climate conference resulted in even a marginal reduction in the oppressive heat, the risk of bushfires, the failure of crops and all the other problems caused by this weather – which is undoubtedly getting progressively worse each year – I’d do so, albeit grudgingly. Mind you, ask me when it’s over 35 and over 70% humidity and I’m likely to hyand you my bank card and PIN number if you say you can fix it.

But we’re dutifully paying our carbon tax (my latest energy bill contains $13.60 of carbon tax on a $181 charge, not to mention the impost on fuel and thus evey single thing that isn’t produced within walking distance of the shop) and this year is worse than the last.

Amazing, really. I mean any rational person would have thought that making me pay more for my electricity and my shopping would have done wonders for the planet. /s

By: cha

cha — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:15:53 +0000

and there had never been such a problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Thursday_(1851)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1939)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday_fires

By: pq

pq — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:09:49 +0000

off subject, in an article by the mad Pablo at ‘Kiwipolitico”

”
All that changed when I got here. Not only did I begin to read and hear about assaults on red-heads, including a viscous verbal attack on twin 6 year old girls by a car full of thugs, but I began to read mean-spirited ginga jokes at places like Kiwiblog, whose owner seems to think that all jokes about red-heads is harmless good fun.
”

Pablo, Paul Buchanan is a mad prenetious left wing idiot

Then today I saw this: “Ginger Oxygen Thief Receives

By: si_rangi

si_rangi — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:51:53 +0000

Currently in Harbin where we hit -36 at 9.00 this morning, so I wouldn’t mind a bit of heat over here

By: Don the Kiwi

Don the Kiwi — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:39:25 +0000

I lives in Oz through the 80′s, in Wollongong. I did work out in central NSW in Cobar. On one occasion, it got to 48 deg.C. The Aussies are accustomed to extreme temperatures. One year – 1981 I think – I had to drive through bush fires to get to work on the outskirts of Sydney. I had to drive through bush fires to get to Lithgow to work there. The drought was so bad that the wheat farmers had no crops that year – driving out past Orange and towards Nyngan – part of the NSW wheat belt – the wheat plants where shrivelled sticks along the highway.
The year after we got back to NZ the bush fires swept along the escarpment from Wolloongong to Sydney and destroyed Audley National Park plus 50 miles of escarpment bush. Why did this happen?
The Greenies got such an influence in the NSW govt. that underbrush burning in the off (non-fire) season was prohibited. Underscub burn-offs had been happening for time immemorial previously, and there had never been such a problem.
History has repeated itself – as a species(humans) we never learn from our mistakes – the greenies have prevented underbrush burnoffs again, for the past four years. Oh, you beauty – look at those fires burn – all that uncleared fuel – I bet the greenis love it – not.

But you can’t teach those who will not learn.

By: wreck1080

wreck1080 — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:46:22 +0000

The trend is for warming. Surely noone disputes this?

I think humanity has a big problem ahead — but, a new tax is not the solution.

By: pq

pq — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:25:37 +0000

greenjacket (114) Says:
January 9th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Sonny Blunt wrote: “Must have been global warming in 1972 as well.”
This may help you:
http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/change/20130103.shtml
On average, Australia is getting hotter.

When you go to the site Greenjacket refers you will find in 2012:
average rainfall 480 mm ;
temperature 0.11 degree centigrade warmer than average ;
fifth warmest decade on record;
sea surface 6th warmest since 1910.
scary isn’t it not

By: Paul Williams

Paul Williams — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 05:08:13 +0000

It was not a fun day to be in Sydney yesterday. I ventured out briefly and it was obvious that only tourists weren’t at the pubs, shopping centres and movie theatres.

By: Longknives

Longknives — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:21:00 +0000

Fuck even this turns into a debate about Global Warming?
I remember it hit 40 C at the Omakau races a few years ago…I was just a kid but man was that beer tent overflowing!

By: macdo

macdo — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:20:20 +0000

In among new stories of bush fires the effect of the heat is often overlooked. In the Victoria emergency in 2009/10 nearly three times as many died of heat as died in fires.

By: greenjacket

greenjacket — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:11:01 +0000

Sonny Blunt wrote: “Must have been global warming in 1972 as well.”
This may help you:
http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/change/20130103.shtml
On average, Australia is getting hotter.

By: questlove

questlove — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 01:56:30 +0000

Must have been global warming in 1972 as well.

Wow, what to do when facepalm is not enough?

By: Colville

Colville — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 01:32:22 +0000

I spent 10 days on a yacht 150 miles out from Cairns in the Coral Sea. Early 40′s every day (and 28 to 30 in the water with 300 foot vis) but very low humidity and it was awesome, but 28 C and muggy sucks !