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	<title>Comments on: Why we need more substance over process in employment laws</title>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The employer may bear some of the blame, but they have already paid for that mistake in lost productivity and other possible damages to their business. Their own fault and they have already paid for it.

There is no need for them to further compensate a dishonest and incompetent employee&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, totally agree. Apologies if my comment above makes it sound like I support the outcome of this fatuous process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim says:</p>
<blockquote><p>The employer may bear some of the blame, but they have already paid for that mistake in lost productivity and other possible damages to their business. Their own fault and they have already paid for it.</p>
<p>There is no need for them to further compensate a dishonest and incompetent employee</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, totally agree. Apologies if my comment above makes it sound like I support the outcome of this fatuous process.</p>
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		<title>By: wreck1080</title>
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		<dc:creator>wreck1080</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 03:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All I can presume is that the reported facts are incorrect as no reasonable minded person could ever come to this judgement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can presume is that the reported facts are incorrect as no reasonable minded person could ever come to this judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: Tauhei Notts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tauhei Notts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RRM at 12.29 is spot on.
I have found, to my personal cost, that employing South Africans is too much risk.  There are a few absolutely wonderful Japies out there, but there are also a huge number of scumbags.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRM at 12.29 is spot on.<br />
I have found, to my personal cost, that employing South Africans is too much risk.  There are a few absolutely wonderful Japies out there, but there are also a huge number of scumbags.</p>
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		<title>By: peterwn</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterwn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some years back, an engineer employed by Wellington Hospital arranged a maintenance shutdown of the oxygen network on a Sunday but neglected to tell the wards, so they could have oxygen cylinders handy. He got the boot, but fortunately there was no shonky Employment Relations Authority to take pity on him.

In the current case the employer got off lightly at $10k. Arguably he should be facing east and praying 5 times a day. If the apprentice got fried it would have cost the employer a hefty 6 figure sum all up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some years back, an engineer employed by Wellington Hospital arranged a maintenance shutdown of the oxygen network on a Sunday but neglected to tell the wards, so they could have oxygen cylinders handy. He got the boot, but fortunately there was no shonky Employment Relations Authority to take pity on him.</p>
<p>In the current case the employer got off lightly at $10k. Arguably he should be facing east and praying 5 times a day. If the apprentice got fried it would have cost the employer a hefty 6 figure sum all up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rex and others,

The employer may bear some of the blame, but they have already paid for that mistake in lost productivity and other possible damages to their business. Their own fault and they have already paid for it.

There is no need for them to further compensate a dishonest and incompetent employee for &quot;distress compensation&quot;. That&#039;s completely bonkers. Look at this side-on and you&#039;ll see that it is a case of dishonesty being rewarded and good faith being penalised.

One could also argue that the employee should return their salary for misrepresenting themselves for financial gain. But in this case neither side should be compensated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex and others,</p>
<p>The employer may bear some of the blame, but they have already paid for that mistake in lost productivity and other possible damages to their business. Their own fault and they have already paid for it.</p>
<p>There is no need for them to further compensate a dishonest and incompetent employee for &#8220;distress compensation&#8221;. That&#8217;s completely bonkers. Look at this side-on and you&#8217;ll see that it is a case of dishonesty being rewarded and good faith being penalised.</p>
<p>One could also argue that the employee should return their salary for misrepresenting themselves for financial gain. But in this case neither side should be compensated.</p>
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		<title>By: beautox</title>
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		<dc:creator>beautox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of the reasons I decided to never employ anyone. I am in a position to; my business exports NZ made software, and relies on just my wife and I. We&#039;ve done well (considering the stupid NZ$ rate) and could have easily employed kiwis to do things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the reasons I decided to never employ anyone. I am in a position to; my business exports NZ made software, and relies on just my wife and I. We&#8217;ve done well (considering the stupid NZ$ rate) and could have easily employed kiwis to do things.</p>
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		<title>By: lastmanstanding</title>
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		<dc:creator>lastmanstanding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All3 sides here are at fault

ERA for dumb arse decision and not punishing lying worker who mearly killed a fellow employee

Employer for not reference checking better( although I have been caught when the reference was in cohots with the employee)

Worker for lying and as others have said should on the next plane back to SA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All3 sides here are at fault</p>
<p>ERA for dumb arse decision and not punishing lying worker who mearly killed a fellow employee</p>
<p>Employer for not reference checking better( although I have been caught when the reference was in cohots with the employee)</p>
<p>Worker for lying and as others have said should on the next plane back to SA</p>
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		<title>By: Sadu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On another note, I once got asked to remove an electrical box from the wall in an office (I&#039;m a network engineer, not an electrician). I asked if it was live and was told that it had been disabled, and was safe to remove. I decided that I didn&#039;t feel like trusting my life to what this person said, so I called in a sparky anyway.

Turns out the box was in fact live, and sparky said I would likely have been killed if I&#039;d touched the thing with a screwdriver.

Scary shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another note, I once got asked to remove an electrical box from the wall in an office (I&#8217;m a network engineer, not an electrician). I asked if it was live and was told that it had been disabled, and was safe to remove. I decided that I didn&#8217;t feel like trusting my life to what this person said, so I called in a sparky anyway.</p>
<p>Turns out the box was in fact live, and sparky said I would likely have been killed if I&#8217;d touched the thing with a screwdriver.</p>
<p>Scary shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Sadu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It really pisses me off that the National government has done nothing about this. I have just gone through the wringer to get an immigration application approved for an employee, it was a complete fucking drama, completely pointless, expensive, and makes me want to never employ someone again.

The problem is that the government only cares about process. There&#039;s no thought spared to things like merit, or intent, or basic common sense. It matters not whether the employee is a lying, thieving scumbag who intended to rip the system from day one. That&#039;s irrelevant. All that matters is whether the employer followed the byzantine process that the govt says they must follow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really pisses me off that the National government has done nothing about this. I have just gone through the wringer to get an immigration application approved for an employee, it was a complete fucking drama, completely pointless, expensive, and makes me want to never employ someone again.</p>
<p>The problem is that the government only cares about process. There&#8217;s no thought spared to things like merit, or intent, or basic common sense. It matters not whether the employee is a lying, thieving scumbag who intended to rip the system from day one. That&#8217;s irrelevant. All that matters is whether the employer followed the byzantine process that the govt says they must follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 01:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, sorry, the employer bears some of the blame here.

The very fact that were were so many lies in his resume means that if even one thread had been picked th whole thing would have unravelled.

I&#039;ve just spent a year restructuring a business robbed blind in just six months by a guy. Who then had the temerity to sue for wrongful dismissal (I won that, but still...). I check the CV he&#039;d been employed on and here we have a suburban solicitor who&#039;d supposedly managed an oil exploration company in Kazaksthan and whose reference was someone at the US State Department. It took me about 10 minutes to demolish that, with a (bounced) email and a phone call.

Lo and behold, with an active police investigation on him I find he&#039;s employed in the same industry in a nearby town. To cap it off, the owners of that business had family connections to the owners of the business I&#039;d restructured. I suppose he may not have listed the business I&#039;d just rescued on his CV but since it was his first foray into that industry if that was the case then it means two businesses took him into a senior role with no experience in their area of operation. And without testing the rest of his resume.

I warned his new employers and evidently they got rid of him. Then a few months later I find he&#039;s handing out business cards announcing he&#039;s now CEO of yet another company in the same industry. So no reference checking again. 

At that point I gave up. If employers are going to be &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; slack, then they really ought not to be in business anyway and if he succeeds in making off with a sufficiently large amount of money (otherwise the police, it seems, can barely be bothered prosecuting) perhaps he&#039;ll finally end up behind bars where he belongs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, sorry, the employer bears some of the blame here.</p>
<p>The very fact that were were so many lies in his resume means that if even one thread had been picked th whole thing would have unravelled.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just spent a year restructuring a business robbed blind in just six months by a guy. Who then had the temerity to sue for wrongful dismissal (I won that, but still&#8230;). I check the CV he&#8217;d been employed on and here we have a suburban solicitor who&#8217;d supposedly managed an oil exploration company in Kazaksthan and whose reference was someone at the US State Department. It took me about 10 minutes to demolish that, with a (bounced) email and a phone call.</p>
<p>Lo and behold, with an active police investigation on him I find he&#8217;s employed in the same industry in a nearby town. To cap it off, the owners of that business had family connections to the owners of the business I&#8217;d restructured. I suppose he may not have listed the business I&#8217;d just rescued on his CV but since it was his first foray into that industry if that was the case then it means two businesses took him into a senior role with no experience in their area of operation. And without testing the rest of his resume.</p>
<p>I warned his new employers and evidently they got rid of him. Then a few months later I find he&#8217;s handing out business cards announcing he&#8217;s now CEO of yet another company in the same industry. So no reference checking again. </p>
<p>At that point I gave up. If employers are going to be <i>that</i> slack, then they really ought not to be in business anyway and if he succeeds in making off with a sufficiently large amount of money (otherwise the police, it seems, can barely be bothered prosecuting) perhaps he&#8217;ll finally end up behind bars where he belongs.</p>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 01:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its this sort of stupidity from the employment courts that will slowly but surely lead to worse and even more worse (sorry bout the grammar) working conditions.
Employers will be more and more inclined to employ people on conditions that effectively mean that they can be fired anytime so that they wont get caught up in this sort of shit. Things like casual, part time, short term, piece work,etc, etc will become the norm - (like the power companies are employing electricians to change over power meters - piecework)

and then everyone will be moaning about how bad employment is and how low wages are....

its a no brainer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its this sort of stupidity from the employment courts that will slowly but surely lead to worse and even more worse (sorry bout the grammar) working conditions.<br />
Employers will be more and more inclined to employ people on conditions that effectively mean that they can be fired anytime so that they wont get caught up in this sort of shit. Things like casual, part time, short term, piece work,etc, etc will become the norm &#8211; (like the power companies are employing electricians to change over power meters &#8211; piecework)</p>
<p>and then everyone will be moaning about how bad employment is and how low wages are&#8230;.</p>
<p>its a no brainer.</p>
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		<title>By: Parlyguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parlyguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pq...to my way of thinking common sense is subjective...since you may disagree with what I believe is common sence and vice versa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pq&#8230;to my way of thinking common sense is subjective&#8230;since you may disagree with what I believe is common sence and vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Kearney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Kearney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair processes are helpful in order to establish whether a decision is fair in substance. But if you can establish that another way, a lack of process can just be disregarded. Process should not be an end in itself. Here there appears to be ample evidence the decision to dismiss was substantially fair.

However, these wierd and confused rulings are not much of a disincentive to employ people. The market prices it in by just having lower wage rates. So the cost is borne by honest and competent employees, not by the employer. The cost of sick leave abuse is much higher. Anyway I doubt someone like this would get past the probation period now.

I do wonder though about employers not checking references. When this is done at all, it is typically done at the end after putting time into interviewing the person. Just calling a referee up front can save a lot of time and help narrow down the list to a couple of suitable people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair processes are helpful in order to establish whether a decision is fair in substance. But if you can establish that another way, a lack of process can just be disregarded. Process should not be an end in itself. Here there appears to be ample evidence the decision to dismiss was substantially fair.</p>
<p>However, these wierd and confused rulings are not much of a disincentive to employ people. The market prices it in by just having lower wage rates. So the cost is borne by honest and competent employees, not by the employer. The cost of sick leave abuse is much higher. Anyway I doubt someone like this would get past the probation period now.</p>
<p>I do wonder though about employers not checking references. When this is done at all, it is typically done at the end after putting time into interviewing the person. Just calling a referee up front can save a lot of time and help narrow down the list to a couple of suitable people.</p>
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		<title>By: cha</title>
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		<dc:creator>cha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Senior or not if he was in any way involved with proscribed work a registration and practising license would be a requirement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senior or not if he was in any way involved with proscribed work a registration and practising license would be a requirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol. In [jalmot] hamnida&#039;s perfect world there are no employers. Everyone is a self-employed sole contractor with only themselves to blame if they have no work.

In which case the would be no need for ERA!   Well done!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol. In [jalmot] hamnida&#8217;s perfect world there are no employers. Everyone is a self-employed sole contractor with only themselves to blame if they have no work.</p>
<p>In which case the would be no need for ERA!   Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
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		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oi cha,read the post. It says &quot;senior position&quot;,so that&#039;s your labourer and attempt to excuse this bullshit out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oi cha,read the post. It says &#8220;senior position&#8221;,so that&#8217;s your labourer and attempt to excuse this bullshit out!</p>
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		<title>By: Fisiani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisiani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the evidence of this post the employer has been treated very badly by the ERA.  
It would appear that membership of the ERA should be temporary and conditional on being realistic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the evidence of this post the employer has been treated very badly by the ERA.<br />
It would appear that membership of the ERA should be temporary and conditional on being realistic.</p>
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		<title>By: hamnidaV2</title>
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		<dc:creator>hamnidaV2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Who would want to be an employer?&quot;

1. Someone who wants to exploit capital and make a financial profit off the backs of their fellow human-beings. 

2. Someone who can&#039;t even be bothered checking basic references (A five minute phone call?). 

3. Someone who thinks they deserve to be wealthier than their next door neighbour because they inherited the family business. 

4. Someone who thinks $13.50 an hour is enough to live on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hidden due to low comment rating. <a href="javascript:crSwitchDisplay('ckhide-1085369');" title="Click to see comment">Click here to see</a>.</p><div id='ckhide-1085369' style="display:none; opacity:0.6;filter:alpha(opacity=60) !important;"><p>&#8220;Who would want to be an employer?&#8221;</p>
<p>1. Someone who wants to exploit capital and make a financial profit off the backs of their fellow human-beings. </p>
<p>2. Someone who can&#8217;t even be bothered checking basic references (A five minute phone call?). </p>
<p>3. Someone who thinks they deserve to be wealthier than their next door neighbour because they inherited the family business. </p>
<p>4. Someone who thinks $13.50 an hour is enough to live on.</p>
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		<title>By: cha</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/why_we_need_more_substance_over_process_in_employment_laws.html/comment-page-1#comment-1085367</link>
		<dc:creator>cha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing in the article says whether or not Gostmann was registered and held a current practising license so odds on he was employed as a labourer. 
If so WTF was Gostmann doing proscribed work on live conductors and why was an apprentice going to him to check if they had been de-energised when it was his, the apprentice&#039;s, responsibility to ensure that any conductors that &lt;strong&gt;he&lt;/strong&gt; intended to work on were in fact grounded and it was safe to commence work?.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing in the article says whether or not Gostmann was registered and held a current practising license so odds on he was employed as a labourer.<br />
If so WTF was Gostmann doing proscribed work on live conductors and why was an apprentice going to him to check if they had been de-energised when it was his, the apprentice&#8217;s, responsibility to ensure that any conductors that <strong>he</strong> intended to work on were in fact grounded and it was safe to commence work?.</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/01/why_we_need_more_substance_over_process_in_employment_laws.html/comment-page-1#comment-1085356</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the greatest risk of appearing prejudiced...

Is anyone else here unsurprised the dodgy sparky in this story is a South African?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the greatest risk of appearing prejudiced&#8230;</p>
<p>Is anyone else here unsurprised the dodgy sparky in this story is a South African?</p>
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