10 reasons NZ is better than Australia

February 7th, 2013 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

Colin Espiner writes in The Press ten reasons why he thinks NZ is better than :

  1. We’re more friendly
  2. Small is beautiful
  3. Our houses are cheaper
  4. Our food and drink is better
  5. We love our indigenous culture
  6.  We’re not so uptight
  7. We’re more entrepreneurial
  8. There’s fewer things that can hurt or kill you
  9. Our TV’s better
  10. The weather

I’m sure there will be a variety of views on this one!

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34 Responses to “10 reasons NZ is better than Australia”

  1. dave53 (53 comments) says:

    I was incredulous on reading this yesterday to find he claims NZ TV is better.

    He based that on the rubbish of commercial TV which is the same garbage as on commercial TV here.

    How he could live in Australia and not encounter the ABC and SBS channels is beyond me. Quality programming 24/7, the best in the world beyond the BBC,

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  2. Urban Redneck (234 comments) says:

    What complete and utter feel-good drivel.

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  3. James Stephenson (1,885 comments) says:

    Food and drink? Not in a million years, we’ve got a handful of world class wine producers and that’s about it.

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  4. Pete George (21,826 comments) says:

    Much of that is debatable according to how you want to look at things. I’m very hapy with New Zealand and have no interest in moving to Australia so I’m more inclined to see the good here – much of which is very good.

    Even the weather is debatable. There is a South Island exodus to Queensland for the winter, but some Aussies prefer our more moderate summer. I really like the seasonal contrasts in southern New Zealand (most of the time). And kids of all ages love the occasional snowfall, as modest as they are here.

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  5. tvb (3,945 comments) says:

    Our weather is certainly better. I think NZ has one of the best climates in the world. Our winters are cool sure but not impossible and our summers are warm but not stinking hot this summer is just lovely. Even last year it was wet but mild and calm.

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  6. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    “We love our indigenous culture”

    Really? I’d have thought the highest rate of infanticide in the World wouldn’t be anything to be overly proud of…

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  7. hmmokrightitis (1,458 comments) says:

    No, Im with him on the food and drink James. Our craft beer industry is way better than AU. Our cold climate wines, particularly the Pinots and better white varietals are better – they do better big reds. Our beef and lamb is way better. Restaurants about even – but I think our second tier restaurants are better than AU’s.

    Our cheese industry leaves AU’s for dead. Vegetables same, friut, tied I think. Fish, similarly, tied, but shellfish we’re ahead.

    The Mrs and I made the call 15 years ago to stay here, as opposed to hitting Melbourne. We are happy with that choice every single day.

    And we have Rotorua trails to ride. Nothing Ive ridden in AU comes close :)

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  8. slightlyrighty (2,448 comments) says:

    James.

    Ever had an Australian apple?

    Tried Australian dairy products?

    Aussie lamb?

    I grant you they do make better red wine, but a good Otago Pinot takes some beating.

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  9. graham (2,211 comments) says:

    “We love our indigenous culture”.

    Really? I think many of us are completely over it.

    I used to appreciate the culture, but years of exposure to Hone Harawira, Titewai Harawira, the Popatas, Mike “Chainsaw” Smith, Ken Mair, and a never-ending succession of do-gooders telling me that everything that is wrong with Maori is my fault, has rather put me off.

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  10. James Stephenson (1,885 comments) says:

    NZ cheese is either mousetrap rubbish or ridiculously expensive (or both), the selection and quality of produce available in their cities, even little old remote Perth is far far ahead of ours and I disagree about the restaurants too – Melbourne’s worst Italian joint is probably twice as good as Auckland’s best.

    Edit: Good points, well made with respect to Craft Brewing and MTB trails though.

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  11. Lance (2,311 comments) says:

    Australia has fine cuisine;

    Like the pie floater!

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  12. Lance (2,311 comments) says:

    Why can’t I edit?

    Pie floater image

    http://www.traveljournals.net/pictures/101782.html

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  13. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    Only 8 has any factual basis. The rest are just opinion or plain wrong.

    Q: What has Australia got that New Zealand hasn’t?

    A: Good neighbours :)

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  14. HC (130 comments) says:

    Here we go again, NZ being portrayed as “little David” against the larger, oh so bad “goliath” next door.

    As for friendliness, if anything the common conduct of people in Auckland is anything to go by, I do not think NZ is any different to any other country, actually on a downward trend.

    “Small is beautiful”, yes, I am sure some midgets are encouraged to feel positive in many ways.

    Houses are cheaper once Kiwis have spent a few years working in better paid Australia and come back with savings, to perhaps be able to afford the high housing costs here. But what do locals think of this, struggling to pay a mortgage on even average incomes?

    Food and drink are better? Ahem, not really my experience that is, apart from exceptions.

    Oh, yes, I read and heard about that wide-spread “love” for indeginous culture, it was so evident on Waitangi Day again, reading newscoverage and comments in the print and online media, yeah right.

    And I see a heck of a lot more “uptightness” now in NZ, than I have ever seen over many years. Entrepreneurial are some, but many smart inventors and business people are also too happy or desperate to sell their knowledge, skills and businesses to overseas investors.

    There are certainly fewer animals, especially insects and reptiles that can kill or harm you in NZ, yet stay well clear of the bulk of NZ motorists, and also be mindful dealing with certain people, that may easily lose their tempers.

    TV in NZ has become disgustingly hopeless, is of very poor quality, has ever dropping standards, little quality in general, and since the exit of TVNZ7 and Stratos, now also Triangle TV in Auckland, it is a “desert” when it comes to balanced reporting, quality programs and sound standards. At least Australia has the ABC and that other public channel.

    The weather in NZ is better for those who cannot stand the heat, the flies and mossies that come with it, dislike massive floods and who do not mind living in homes that are cold and damp in winter.

    So who again was this person who made up that list of comparisons?

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  15. Mark Thomson (80 comments) says:

    3. Our houses are cheaper
    3.a. It’s easier to swim here from the US

    8. There’s fewer things that can hurt or kill you
    8.a. Our journalists take a more creative approach to English grammar.

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  16. Lance (2,311 comments) says:

    Agree these comparisons are ultimately useless.

    NZ is different from Australia.
    I get tired of the pratts who spout on and on and on about how perfect everything are Aus and you must be fuckwits in live in NZ.

    Both countries have their respective advantages and disadvantages and it is up to each person to decide what personal circumstances make it the best country for them.
    Personally I find Aus a nice place to visit but the prospect of living there doesn’t appeal to me (long list), especially the second class residency legislation.

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  17. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Two things wrong with that list.

    1. Ausy cost of living is much higher.

    2. We love our indigenous culture – horse shit.

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  18. dime (8,778 comments) says:

    shit like this is just embarrassing. do we really need this to feel better about ourselves? thats sad.

    i will comment on food & drink though.

    i think our produce is better. but in terms of restaurants they absolutely flog us.

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  19. Akaroa (487 comments) says:

    Interesting subject. A couple of points.
    IMHO we are the most introspective people in the World. To explain/justify that opinion: when i first emigrated to this fair land in 1975 I soon became used to people who, on learning I was a recent immigrant asking me, “What do you think of New Zealand?”

    A reasonable question you’d think, but I soon came to the conclusion that it was because a major Kiwi characteristic was/is personal insecurity, and not much i’ve seen/learned/experienced over the subsequent years has changed that opinion. The expected answer was, of course,”Great place – fantastic!!”
    I don’t know whether its because we are a migrant nation, or whether living on volcanoes/EQ faults has anything to do with it, but an underlying national insecurity exists in your average Kiwi.

    This national inferiority complex is detectable at many different levels and – again IMHO – goes a long way to explaining our – (and i include myself these days) – inordinate concentration on sport and sporting achievement. Why? Well its because on the sports field, or yachting regatta, or iron man or in any of those other contests of strength, skill and fitness that we eagerly support, we have a visible, quantifiable measure of how good we are. (Or bad, of course)

    Concluding, I’m not saying this nervous reliance on sports ability to justify our national existence is bad. Crikey, we’ve only been going as a nation for the blinking of an eye in the overall scheme of things. Come back in five hundred or a thousand years and you may find the ol’ Kiwi is more settled and self confident in Noo Zild, Aotearoa or New Zealand – or whatever term is eventually accepted to delineate these islands and the people who live here – and that sport, as such, is seen as something other than all-pervasive and a matter of life and death.

    Actually, By that I am reminded of what Bill Shankly said about Association football when he was manager of UK’s Liverpool FC. When someone remarked that soccer ‘Wasn’t a matter of life and death’ His laconic reply was, “Nay, its more important than that!” !!
    Reminds me of several Kiwis of my close acquaintance!!

    .

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  20. Akaroa (487 comments) says:

    RE-above reference to Shankly.

    Rugby following Kiwis of my close acquaintance of course!!

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  21. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    LOL ! Number 5…LMFAO ! I mean really..LMFAO !

    Comedy gold.

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  22. eszett (2,271 comments) says:

    Small is beautiful

    I wonder if Colin says that to all the girls? ;-)

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  23. All_on_Red (950 comments) says:

    Our Labour (Labor) Party and Unions are less corrupt than theirs. Not by much though. Still when our Labour says they want to catch up to Oz I sure that’s what they are referring too.:-)

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  24. Bob R (1,253 comments) says:

    ***5.We love our indigenous culture***

    This sounds like the kind of thing written by a morally superior white liberal who lives in a predominantly white neighbourhood.

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  25. Bob R (1,253 comments) says:

    ***1.We’re more friendly***

    Anecdotally whenever I’ve travelled overseas I’ve found Australians particularly open and friendly.

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  26. Skippytony (8 comments) says:

    As an aussie living in Christchurch for the last 5 years….

    1.We’re more friendly
    Simply not true

    2.Small is beautiful
    Tell someone commuting in Auckland 2 hours a day that. Small is also often narrow and insular.
    3.Our houses are cheaper
    Not sure this is actually the case, if you line up like for like, compare Adelaide to Chch, for example, and it is really about affordability, not price
    4.Our food and drink is better
    Frogshit. Yes, there is some excellent wine and fruit etc, but anyone who has spent five minutes in melbourne will tell you about the restaurants, the delicatessens, the local fruit and veg shops and so on. An average bottle of wine is more expensive here.
    5.We love our indigenous culture
    Hmmmm, not sure it loves you any more than it does in Australia, if that counts
    6. We’re not so uptight
    More lazy, state dependent, drug addled and pissed maybe
    7.We’re more entrepreneurial
    Yep, mostly got up and moved to Australia though
    8.There’s fewer things that can hurt or kill you
    True, but a building never fell on me in Australia
    9.Our TV’s better
    Both crap, but here is much worse
    10.The weather
    Dream on

    There are many great things about living in New Zealand, and I am living here by choice, but I hear this same shit about how bad aus is compared to NZ all the time.

    The reality (for me, at least) is that I have destroyed economic value at a truly alarming rate every year I have lived here, relative to where I would be if I had stayed in Australia, and I am talking about over $100,000 per year, every year.

    The much trumpeted “No 8 fencing wire mentality” always seems to end up in things like leaky homes, poor workmanship, shortcuts being taken on everything and a reckless disregard for the basics of planning, let alone consideration of cause and effect.

    I have seen and been exposed to more violence, racism and anti social behaviour in the last five years than in 50 odd years living in Australia.

    There is much less of a sense of self reliance here, people expect the government or the council to look after them much more than in Australia.

    And don’t get me started on politics, by australian standards I was regarded as a moderate conservative, here I am (relatively speaking) a neo-conservative, knuckle dragging right wing fascist.

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  27. OTGO (457 comments) says:

    I absolutely love Australia and Australians. If they weren’t just 3 – 4 hours away we would be shit at sport.
    I have lived there for 6 years about 15 years ago and the flies and the extreme weather drove me home. That and Bluff oysters!

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  28. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,681 comments) says:

    He’s wrong on at least 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 10.

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  29. Manolo (12,637 comments) says:

    We’re more friendly Wrong! Aussies are a great bunch.
    We love our indigenous culture Wrong! Yeah right.
    We’re not so uptight Wrong! WTF? We could win the gold medat at this.

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  30. kowtow (6,717 comments) says:

    Once again we witness the arrogance and yet obvious insecurity of the media elite.

    Constantly pushing the same tired themes.

    Utter bullshit from a sad sector of society.

    80% of New Zealanders don’t give a shit for “indigenous culture”. This “we love our blacks,they don’t” , is bollocks.

    They want to keep repeating the lies so something takes hold in the minds of thickos who can’t think for themselves.

    Kia ora………..yeah right.

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  31. Alan Johnstone (915 comments) says:

    Depends on where you are I guess;

    I spend about 20 weeks a year in Australia presently and find Auckland is more like large urban Australia than it is the rest of NZ in just about every respect.

    Canberra is a bit like Christchurch.

    I’m sure rural NZ is quite like rural Australia.

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  32. wreck1080 (3,527 comments) says:

    This guy is trolling for outraged responses and he got it.

    I’m sure any of those opinions could be true for some people and rubbish to others.

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  33. itstricky (1,144 comments) says:

    I agree that it’s a fairly sad list but It’s absolutely hilarious that a guy/girl that could come out with a statement like:

    80% of New Zealanders don’t give a shit for “indigenous culture”. This “we love our blacks,they don’t” , is bollocks.

    Can then call something else:

    Utter bullshit from a sad sector of society.

    I mean, you’re completely entitled to your opinion but if the only way you can visualise and verbalise it is as:

    we love our blacks, they don’t

    I think you’ve got some pretty serious anger/race/fear/1833 hate going down. Perhaps go and have a bit of a lie down, take a deep breath and wonder to youself whether what you just wrote was “sad bullshit” or not. Or maybe go and watch that Lincoln movie.

    Anyway, back to topic :

    It is a kind of boring list.

    Perhaps add:

    Our beer is better?
    We bowl overarm?
    We’re Non nuclear?
    More water, less red dust?

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  34. BlairM (2,266 comments) says:

    I have seen and been exposed to more violence, racism and anti social behaviour in the last five years than in 50 odd years living in Australia.

    Well you did move to Christchurch…

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