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	<title>Comments on: A Labour insider on a coalition with NZ First</title>
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		<title>By: ChardonnayGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/a_labour_insider_on_a_coalition_with_nz_first_.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101763</link>
		<dc:creator>ChardonnayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DVM: Apparently, according to JT, New Zealand First was his first choice anyway. Given the man&#039;s impeccably crap sense of collegiality and party discipline, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if he wakajumped across the House in the general direction of Winston.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DVM: Apparently, according to JT, New Zealand First was his first choice anyway. Given the man&#8217;s impeccably crap sense of collegiality and party discipline, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if he wakajumped across the House in the general direction of Winston.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauleastbay</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/a_labour_insider_on_a_coalition_with_nz_first_.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101673</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauleastbay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[greg acting chair of some rate payers association   among of others from a goggle search you are a, professional little.committee man or professional busy body.  how many ward and licensing trusts and school board s are you standing for this local body time   I betry you your name well appear on several ballot papers for different positions like it did last time]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greg acting chair of some rate payers association   among of others from a goggle search you are a, professional little.committee man or professional busy body.  how many ward and licensing trusts and school board s are you standing for this local body time   I betry you your name well appear on several ballot papers for different positions like it did last time</p>
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		<title>By: David Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a &quot;leftist&quot; !! Increase the dose Russell, and make an appointment with your Doctor first thing Monday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a &#8220;leftist&#8221; !! Increase the dose Russell, and make an appointment with your Doctor first thing Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happens if no party has an outright majority and no one wants to go with NZ First - who gets to form the government?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens if no party has an outright majority and no one wants to go with NZ First &#8211; who gets to form the government?</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yawn, NZ First will be back with 7%. add figures now]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yawn, NZ First will be back with 7%. add figures now</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So when Shearer/Norman/Peters/Harawera take up the reins of power in 2014 you cannot see any bright spot on the horizon then Red?

Personally, I&#039;m quite keen to see what portfolio Richard Prosser gets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when Shearer/Norman/Peters/Harawera take up the reins of power in 2014 you cannot see any bright spot on the horizon then Red?</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m quite keen to see what portfolio Richard Prosser gets.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joana, there is no escape from this nightmare. 

We are in the grip of a coalition of socialists in parliament and they are, because of their own vapid cowardice, in turn in the grip of a legion of faceless publicly funded bureaucrats.

Not one in this socially destructive coalition will do what needs to be done (stop spending money they don&#039;t have) because of the old adage that turkey&#039;s don&#039;t vote for thanksgiving.

They won&#039;t stop the over spending because if they do, there&#039;s no way they can make a living. So they keep thieving from us, and they keep us on a headlong course to destruction and social disintegration (a la Greece) because they can, and because they are all selfish self interested swine who would rather the country go to ruin entirely than that they actually get off their arses and produce something.

We can bitch and moan about it on here, but nothing is going to change until we actually rebel and refuse to fund their banditry any longer (unlikely) or the country goes broke.

Parliament is full of cowards and our bureaucracy is full of thieves.

Such is the state of affairs the Progressives have brought upon us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joana, there is no escape from this nightmare. </p>
<p>We are in the grip of a coalition of socialists in parliament and they are, because of their own vapid cowardice, in turn in the grip of a legion of faceless publicly funded bureaucrats.</p>
<p>Not one in this socially destructive coalition will do what needs to be done (stop spending money they don&#8217;t have) because of the old adage that turkey&#8217;s don&#8217;t vote for thanksgiving.</p>
<p>They won&#8217;t stop the over spending because if they do, there&#8217;s no way they can make a living. So they keep thieving from us, and they keep us on a headlong course to destruction and social disintegration (a la Greece) because they can, and because they are all selfish self interested swine who would rather the country go to ruin entirely than that they actually get off their arses and produce something.</p>
<p>We can bitch and moan about it on here, but nothing is going to change until we actually rebel and refuse to fund their banditry any longer (unlikely) or the country goes broke.</p>
<p>Parliament is full of cowards and our bureaucracy is full of thieves.</p>
<p>Such is the state of affairs the Progressives have brought upon us.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Where are the 170,000 jobs he promised?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They must have gone the same way as Sanpaku.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Where are the 170,000 jobs he promised?</p></blockquote>
<p>They must have gone the same way as Sanpaku.</p>
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		<title>By: joana</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/a_labour_insider_on_a_coalition_with_nz_first_.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101589</link>
		<dc:creator>joana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of worried Nats on here..If Key had delivered on half his promises you would not be such a worried bunch now..Today ,  he is busy trying to distance himself from all the job losses.  Where are the 170,000 jobs he promised?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of worried Nats on here..If Key had delivered on half his promises you would not be such a worried bunch now..Today ,  he is busy trying to distance himself from all the job losses.  Where are the 170,000 jobs he promised?</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;David Garrett: just read this post, and at 11.53am you refer to “Mickey Savage” aka Greg Presland having some “difficulties”. Would it be impolite of me to ask you to clarify what you mean by “difficulties”? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

How about we just deal with Micky&#039;s arguments (such as they are), and leave DG&#039;s snide and cowardly leftist style personal references out of it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>David Garrett: just read this post, and at 11.53am you refer to “Mickey Savage” aka Greg Presland having some “difficulties”. Would it be impolite of me to ask you to clarify what you mean by “difficulties”? </p></blockquote>
<p>How about we just deal with Micky&#8217;s arguments (such as they are), and leave DG&#8217;s snide and cowardly leftist style personal references out of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look on the bright side old chap.

You&#039;ve done much better than our resident politico&#039;s PG and Penny Dull! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look on the bright side old chap.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve done much better than our resident politico&#8217;s PG and Penny Dull! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mickysavage</title>
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		<dc:creator>mickysavage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Johnboy 

Two out of three times and I am painfully aware about what happened the third time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johnboy </p>
<p>Two out of three times and I am painfully aware about what happened the third time.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/a_labour_insider_on_a_coalition_with_nz_first_.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101567</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many times did you get voted in then Greggie? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times did you get voted in then Greggie? <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mickysavage</title>
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		<dc:creator>mickysavage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Pauleastbay I have stood for public office three times:

1.  2001 for Waitakere City Council
2.  2004 for Waitakere City Council
3.  2010 for Waitakere Ranges Local Board

I am pretty sure that I have claimed nothing for mileage this term.

Your claim about me standing for 5 positions last time is interesting.  What positions were they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pauleastbay I have stood for public office three times:</p>
<p>1.  2001 for Waitakere City Council<br />
2.  2004 for Waitakere City Council<br />
3.  2010 for Waitakere Ranges Local Board</p>
<p>I am pretty sure that I have claimed nothing for mileage this term.</p>
<p>Your claim about me standing for 5 positions last time is interesting.  What positions were they?</p>
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		<title>By: Letterman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Letterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Garrett: just read this post, and at 11.53am you refer to &quot;Mickey Savage&quot; aka Greg Presland having some &quot;difficulties&quot;. Would it be impolite of me to ask you to clarify what you mean by &quot;difficulties&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Garrett: just read this post, and at 11.53am you refer to &#8220;Mickey Savage&#8221; aka Greg Presland having some &#8220;difficulties&#8221;. Would it be impolite of me to ask you to clarify what you mean by &#8220;difficulties&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Pauleastbay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauleastbay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I&#039;m really interested in Greg is how many councils, boards, water boards, school boards of trustees and local dart club committees you will be standing for this local  body time,  I believe it was five last time but there must be a couple of extra wards you can try for this time, I am picking seven.  

Just think of all those mileage claims and committee fees you will rake in, of course all that is just something that comes along as small recompense when you are out there doing all that good in the community!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m really interested in Greg is how many councils, boards, water boards, school boards of trustees and local dart club committees you will be standing for this local  body time,  I believe it was five last time but there must be a couple of extra wards you can try for this time, I am picking seven.  </p>
<p>Just think of all those mileage claims and committee fees you will rake in, of course all that is just something that comes along as small recompense when you are out there doing all that good in the community!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Prosser as Minister of Ethnic Affairs in the next coalition government.

Now that would be fun! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Prosser as Minister of Ethnic Affairs in the next coalition government.</p>
<p>Now that would be fun! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: duggledog</title>
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		<dc:creator>duggledog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes I&#039;ve always thought that DPF. Indeed I thought that the Nats should have stood down and let Labour take a bath in what was clearly coming prior to Key&#039;s inaugural term.

And I agree - National needs to run an advertisement as soon as they hit the hustings, compiling a four shot / box sequence of Shearer, Winston, Hone and Turei rabbiting on about whatever and then replace that with Key speaking clearly on his own. And repeat. 

That might get through. If they do stand aside for a Grand Coalition of that lot, then it would be six months before the whole thing implodes, and we might learn something.

Cue another three terms in Government with no need for coalition partners

However it&#039;ll never happen. I think National will do whatever it takes to stop the madness that will surely be a Labour / Green etc coalition even if it means having to deal with the boozer. The left right battle is always only about stopping the other getting the treasury benches. Everything they have worked for over the two terms will be gone and they will simply have to start all over again when the cheque book has been exhausted by the left. It&#039;s called responsibility. God it must get boring.

Having said that I wish National had been more proactive. Personally I expected them to stop this bat shit crazy habit of flushing money down the toilet but I guess all governments are reactive not proactive. If they&#039;d done what needed to be done many would have gone to the wall. Didn&#039;t stop Lange &amp; Douglas though]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I&#8217;ve always thought that DPF. Indeed I thought that the Nats should have stood down and let Labour take a bath in what was clearly coming prior to Key&#8217;s inaugural term.</p>
<p>And I agree &#8211; National needs to run an advertisement as soon as they hit the hustings, compiling a four shot / box sequence of Shearer, Winston, Hone and Turei rabbiting on about whatever and then replace that with Key speaking clearly on his own. And repeat. </p>
<p>That might get through. If they do stand aside for a Grand Coalition of that lot, then it would be six months before the whole thing implodes, and we might learn something.</p>
<p>Cue another three terms in Government with no need for coalition partners</p>
<p>However it&#8217;ll never happen. I think National will do whatever it takes to stop the madness that will surely be a Labour / Green etc coalition even if it means having to deal with the boozer. The left right battle is always only about stopping the other getting the treasury benches. Everything they have worked for over the two terms will be gone and they will simply have to start all over again when the cheque book has been exhausted by the left. It&#8217;s called responsibility. God it must get boring.</p>
<p>Having said that I wish National had been more proactive. Personally I expected them to stop this bat shit crazy habit of flushing money down the toilet but I guess all governments are reactive not proactive. If they&#8217;d done what needed to be done many would have gone to the wall. Didn&#8217;t stop Lange &amp; Douglas though</p>
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		<title>By: ChardonnayGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChardonnayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Added to which, the Cons are decidedly unfriendly toward ACT and United Future. Sectarianism much?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Added to which, the Cons are decidedly unfriendly toward ACT and United Future. Sectarianism much?</p>
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		<title>By: ChardonnayGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChardonnayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, if National is desperate enough to pursue the Conservative Party, then it will face the consequences- namely, the electoral unpopularity of religious social conservatism in New Zealand. Remember 1987, 1996 and 2005?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, if National is desperate enough to pursue the Conservative Party, then it will face the consequences- namely, the electoral unpopularity of religious social conservatism in New Zealand. Remember 1987, 1996 and 2005?</p>
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