In my considered opinion, Pete George, the one who is effectively LYING – is YOU.

Even less impressed.

When you’re in a hole, Pete George, turn off the keys to the ditchdigger?

The (large) hole seems to be in your understanding.

UF and UF candidates did not specifically campaign for National policy, that’s right, but they did specifically acknowledge in campaigning that they would support National’s MOM policy. I’ve backed this up with evidence. The link DPF provides backs it up, including:

The Dominion Post:
To Peter Dunne, from Joe Brown: Will you say no to all state asset sales like Labour and Charles Chauvel have this year?

Dunne Peter:
In principle, UnitedFuture does not advocate selling state assets, but in the event National putst up its mixed ownership model for the electricity companies and Air New Zealand we would be prepared to support that, provided the maximum was 49%, with a cap of 15% on any indivudual’s holdings. We would never support the sale of Kiwibank, Radio New Zealand or control of water assets.

Your’e about then only one still perpetuating this lie against Dunne, selecting information to support your campaign that doesn’t prove anything, and ignoring evidence that proves you are wrong.

You may not be wilfully lying, but you appear to be wilfully ignoring evidence in perpetuating a lie.

[ Pete George (16,292) Says: February 15th, 2013 at 10:28 pm]

Thank you Pete George, for confirming my point.

In my considered opinion – the voting public of Ohariu were thus effectively misled by United Future and Peter Dunne on the issue of support for the ‘Mixed Ownership Model’ for State-Owned electricity assets and Air New Zealand.

In my considered opinion, United Future and Peter Dunne SOLD OUT the voting public of Ohariu by voting in support of the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership) Amendment Act 2012.

The final vote on the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Act 2012, was 61 – 60

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/Debates/e/8/e/50HansD_20120626_00000012-State-Owned-Enterprises-Amendment-Bill-Public.htm

A party vote was called for on the question, That the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.

Ayes 61
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.
Noes 60
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Māori Party 3; Mana 1.
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I thus believe that I am absolutely correct in my statement that THERE IS NO MANDATE FOR ASSET SALES – given that this minority National Government (which DID campaign on asset sales) has only 59 out of 121 MPs.

NO MAJORITY – NO MANDATE.

In my considered opinion, Pete George, the one who is effectively LYING – is YOU.

Even less impressed.

When you’re in a hole, Pete George, turn off the keys to the ditchdigger?

Penny Bright

‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

Auckland Mayoral Candidate 2013

http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

NZ Fist

A freudian slip?

Hence the dearth of talent on the lefts party lists , miud you a Reiki master probably has skills of value to the economic future and well being of this country

Kiwibank is for left wing losers.

I’m happy for Kiwibank ownership to stay as it is, it is an effective competitive alternative to foreign owned banks.

UnitedFuture on Asset Sales

As a party we had therefore ruled out ever supporting any sales – partial or whole – of Kiwibank, Radio New Zealand or our water supplies.

We further said (on 1 November 2011) that in the case of the four energy companies and Air New Zealand, which National was proposing to sell a portion of, that we believed the Government should retain a minimum of 51% control, and that there should be limits on the holdings able to be purchased by individuals or entities, and that New Zealand household investors be given preferential purchase rights at time of issue.
(See http://www.united.future.org.nz/asset-sales-1/).

UnitedFuture’s confidence and supply agreement, negotiated with National after the election, confirms all these points and is therefore consistent in every regard with our pre-election policy. That is why UnitedFuture will support the Government’s plans to introduce a mixed-ownership model for the four energy companies and Air New Zealand.

http://yournz.org/2012/06/23/is-peter-dunne-breaking-a-promise-on-water-assets/

if I were a member of the voting public in Ohariu and I wanted to know what Peter Dunne / United Future policy was on asset sales – I would head for the United Future ‘Asset Sales Policy Announcement’.

That would only tell you what UF policy was. Not National policy, nor what National policy UF acknowledged they would support as a major coalition partner.

UF did not specifically campaign for the ‘mixed ownership model for the electricity companies and Air New Zealand’ because it was not UF policy, it was National policy. But Dunne and other UF candidates, including myself, campaigned supporting National’s right as a major coalition partner to progress their number one policy.

And UF did not campaign against National’s MOM policy either, because they didn’t oppose it.

So you are incorrect saying “let alone a Minister, and Peter Dunne – who DID NOT campaign on supporting State Asset sales.” He did campaign on supporting National’s MOM policy, as did I.

I didn’t say you lied, I said you were “perpetuating this same lie”. Some have deliberately lied about it, others have repeated the lie.

Even less impressed.

You can dance around on the head of a pin as long as you like – but if I were a member of the voting public in Ohariu and I wanted to know what Peter Dunne / United Future policy was on asset sales – I would head for the United Future ‘Asset Sales Policy Announcement’.

Not some random debate on Kiwiblog…..

Whereabouts on the above-mentioned ‘Asset Sales Policy Announcement’ does it state clearly for members of the voting public who want to cast an informed vote – that United Future and Peter Dunne were campaigning for the ‘mixed ownership model for the electricity companies and Air New Zealand’?

“Pete George (16,286) Says:
February 15th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
Someone else has been perpetuating this same lie – Penny Bright:”

You had the temerity to effectively call ME a LIAR Pete George?

I suggest you take a long, hard look in the mirror……………….

Not impressed.

Penny Bright

‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

Auckland Mayoral Candidate 2013

http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

Some have tried to quibble about the water aspect but supply of water is not being sold off and UF policy and statements clearly differentiated between partial sale of power generators and water supply. It’s all detailed here:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/05/a_great_own_goal.html

http://www.unitedfuture.org.nz/asset-sales-policy-announcement/

Asset Sales Policy Announcement
10 October 2011

Kiwibank, Radio New Zealand and the water supply should be ruled out of any future asset sales programmes, UnitedFuture Leader Peter Dunne said today.

Speaking to the Auckland Rotary Club, he said that given that National has a manifesto that includes asset sales, New Zealanders need to start a proper debate on the future limits of those sales.

“To this point there has not been a proper national debate beyond National saying yes and Labour saying no.

“We need a conversation that is more detailed and drills down into what New Zealanders really think are acceptable bottom lines,” he said.

“New Zealanders, I believe, are not definitively pro-asset sales, but under certain conditions, it is no longer the bogeyman issue that Labour would have you believe.”

Mr Dunne said UnitedFuture’s role as a support partner is not just to contribute its own policies, but to help keep a government to a reasonable, centrist path.

“UnitedFuture says let’s start with three no-go areas where there would be no asset sales, not now, not ever:

“They are Kiwibank, Radio New Zealand and the supply of water.

“Kiwibank is in every sense now a national institution, whether you bank with it or not. And in a market full of Australian-owned banks, and an increasingly fraught and troubled globe, it is both a symbolic and practical statement of our economic sovereignty.

“Collectively, it is ours pure and simple. It must stay that way.

“Secondly, Radio New Zealand exists in an increasingly commercial media marketplace, and it is more important than ever to have a voice that does not bend to the dollar, to ratings, to external forces.

“Every nation needs its own voice and we need to afford that voice our collective protection.

“Thirdly, and one that I feel particularly deeply about, is water. I do not intend to wait until it is on the asset sales agenda.

“I do not believe New Zealanders would ever – or should ever – accept a sell-off of the supply of the water, or any of the aspects around it.

“Let no one claim for any price what is ours as of right. There needs to be a blanket and clear undertaking that this will never be on the agenda,” Mr Dunne said.

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That’s where I got my FACTS from.

United Future’s “Asset Sales Policy Announcement”
10 October 2011

Anyone want to argue with THAT?

This MINORITY National Government – which DID campaign on asset sales – has only 59 out of 121 MPs.

I put it to you – that if the voting public of Ohariu relied on United Future’s above-mentioned “Asset Sales Policy Announcement” in order to cast an informed vote – they could have been led to believe that Peter Dunne was NOT campaigning for the ‘mixed ownership model for the electricity companies and Air New Zealand’?

It gets a bit deceptive and misleading, in my considered opinion, for politicians not to be upfront and consistent in their stated policies?

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

‘Anti-corruption campaigner’
Auckland Mayoral Candidate 2013

You can see clearly Garrett that the idea of “read ‘ means here in this context “understand”,…. you do do you comprehend do, maybe not, thank God most of us do not think like you do, single handedly fucked the party you dog